To Root or Not to Root; That is the Question - Acer Iconia A500

I rooted my VM Cruz Reader to get app2sd working. So I have a tiny bit of experience rooting a device. I'm still a nooby to Android, and wondering if I should root my A500 (I'd really like to get rid of those goofy "rooms" or whatever they are that Acer added). What's giving me pause is the OTAs. I read recently that HC 3.2 will soon be out, and later this year Ice Cream Sandwich will be out. Will rooting my A500 impede these updates? You can imagine my joy at using the A500 after using a Cruz Reader. Consequently I'm really worried about bricking it. There's a lot of difference between the value of a Cruz Reader and an A500.
Frank

fbales said:
I rooted my VM Cruz Reader to get app2sd working. So I have a tiny bit of experience rooting a device. I'm still a nooby to Android, and wondering if I should root my A500 (I'd really like to get rid of those goofy "rooms" or whatever they are that Acer added). What's giving me pause is the OTAs. I read recently that HC 3.2 will soon be out, and later this year Ice Cream Sandwich will be out. Will rooting my A500 impede these updates? You can imagine my joy at using the A500 after using a Cruz Reader. Consequently I'm really worried about bricking it. There's a lot of difference between the value of a Cruz Reader and an A500.
Frank
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Depending on which version of Droid you're using, you can use either "Gingerbreak", or " Iconia Root" to root your device. Both are easy to use, and you can unroot just as easily and receive OTAs. Before you ask, use the search function on this forum for both the aforementioned programs.

Thanks. I've already read about the roots, and I think Iconia Root will work for me. So if I'm understanding you, you remove the root for the OTA, then re-root? That's it?
Frank

fbales said:
Thanks. I've already read about the roots, and I think Iconia Root will work for me. So if I'm understanding you, you remove the root for the OTA, then re-root? That's it?
Frank
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what it seems like you're missing is tha tthe devs here will have the OTA releases as well and implement the new features/whatever into their roms....if it's anything like any other devices i've had, they will have the rlses before you would get it OTA. No reason I can think of not to root. Just by not getting the OTAs you won't be missing out if you stay current with whatever flavor rom you prefer

XBoxD00D said:
Depending on which version of Droid you're using, you can use either "Gingerbreak", or " Iconia Root" to root your device. Both are easy to use, and you can unroot just as easily and receive OTAs. Before you ask, use the search function on this forum for both the aforementioned programs.
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Now using the tool to root are you sure that using it to unroot will allow ota to be received.?
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M..N said:
Now using the tool to root are you sure that using it to unroot will allow ota to be received.?
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Yes!

kjy2010 said:
Yes!
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You positive I wanna be completely sure before I do it
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I am rooted and still received ota today and installed it successfully....rooting doesn't hamper ota....unless you change files like build.prop...
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Wrong section...

I'm still up in the air with the whole rooting thing for a tablet, don't get me wrong I'm not a noob at it as I have a rooted, rommed, themed DroidX, but I justndont feel the need for it on my tablet. And of course I'd have to go back reread everything on how to for this tab which I did for my dx and takes alot of time. Just curious is there a fail safe for tabs for instance my DX has a SBF fail all bricked all emergence fix, is there such a method for my iconia?
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Rooting won't block OTA's. However, it allows you to do plenty of things that WILL block OTA's.

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Root or wait for Android 2.2?

Hey guys, I'm new to the Android community and I'm completely in love with it now that I had the phone for several weeks. Like every other phone I get, I'm always eager to customize it in all the ways possible.
So here is my question, rooting seems simple enough with the great guides you guys have here. However, I've heard that Android 2.2 is right around the corner with new great features. I read that if you upgrade your firmware, it will un-root your phone back to stock.
I'm already hungry to try the new features that a rooted phone can do but I'm thinking that this update is worth waiting for since this phone is new anyways.
Any opinions?
Steps for success:
1. Root phone.
2. Wait for 2.2.
3. Download a 2.2 rom with root.
Were would I find the rooted roms?
DynamicXL said:
Were would I find the rooted roms?
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In the development section.
Its a file you can find . Its not a rom. Your phone will still get the ota even after you root it. Can't say the same for custom roms
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Cool, thanks for the quick responds guys.
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Absolutely ROOT. I have some things to do once rooted in the sticky, please let me know if you have suggestions.
Rooting have nothing to do with ota update but flashing a customer rom will.
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I'm thinking of rooting. My battery life is a joke. The only thing I miss about Nexus One besides trackball notifications.
nick_karstedt said:
Steps for success:
1. Root phone.
2. Wait for 2.2.
3. Download a 2.2 rom with root.
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i second this
Yeah, I think I'm going to root my phone soon. Thanks for the help!
Fuse8499 said:
I'm thinking of rooting. My battery life is a joke. The only thing I miss about Nexus One besides trackball notifications.
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Not sure how rooting your phone is going to solve your battery issues? All that rooting does is give you root (superuser) permissions on your phone. You can do this to remove the bloatware that came preinstalled on the phone, run various apps that require root. But I can't think of any way that it's going to allow you to save battery life that you couldn't already do non-rooted.
My only reason to root was for wifi-tethering...
I know the newer version of Facebook is a battery eater. I switched back to the older style and my phone is happy again.
Root is great.
1. Remove bloat apps
2. Remove the annoying T-mobile jingle
3. Root Explorer is fun to play with
I think thats all I've really done so far. Well I should that I've wanted to really do so far.
Rooting isn't working for me otherwise I would have to agree :-(
^ could you give a little more detail, so we can help?
Do you have the update file named update.zip.zip by accident?
I pretty much had the same question. But after a little reading just now I actually understand what rooting is. Helps that I'm familiar with linux! Attempting to root in 5 4 3...
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So if you don't have a data plan you can't get the ota update? You must root? Mine is on AT&T with no data plan right now.
Isn't there much more to rooting then apps and root control? I've seen all the custome ROMs people get to customize the phone and theme just about everything.
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s15274n said:
^ could you give a little more detail, so we can help?
Do you have the update file named update.zip.zip by accident?
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No I just Have a file named update.zip. I have tried two different methods twice now and once I'm in recovery and go to flash the zip it says it isn't there. I don't know what it is I'm doing wrong.
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So I rooted my phone earlier today. It was unbelievably easy to get the whole set up going.
Haven't had much time to fool around with it yet except for several apps that require root access, mainly to flash and back up my data in case of an oops.
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going to down grade and root

currently running 3.1 version build 427
found this which seems to be the simplest guide so far to downgrade and root to a stock rooted version of 3.1
is this my best option
http://android.modaco.com/content/a...oted-ww-8-4-4-5-android-3-1-from-any-version/
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...is this my best option...
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I think this one may be better as it is TF specific plus covers downgrading.
[GUIDE] STOCK (8.2.3.9/8.2.3.13/8.4.4.5) to 3.1 (Primordial 3.1) [NEWBIE FRIENDLY!]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1106587
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I think this one may be better as it is TF specific plus covers downgrading.
[GUIDE] STOCK (8.2.3.9/8.2.3.13/8.4.4.5) to 3.1 (Primordial 3.1) [NEWBIE FRIENDLY!]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1106587
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This is the guide I used and it worked fine. I wound up with a bunch of force closes after I downgraded, but I managed to be patient and get through them far enough to be able to root the device. It just took longer to get the device show up in the adb list of connected devices.
I think the force closes were related to a gmail widget that I had on my home screen, but not certain of that.
yes decided to follow that guide just trying too back stuff up with out root its tough dont want to loose my dolphin bookmarks etc but with them all being on the internal sd it gets wiped so going to back up as much as i can and root later
3DSammy said:
I think this one may be better as it is TF specific plus covers downgrading.
[GUIDE] STOCK (8.2.3.9/8.2.3.13/8.4.4.5) to 3.1 (Primordial 3.1) [NEWBIE FRIENDLY!]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1106587
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+1 for this guide, despite using Mac OSX so the commands deviated slightly when it came to entering them, it was so easy to follow the steps and rooted my transformer first time without a hitch. Good luck for later when you apply the hack.
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well i followed paul at modacos guide in the end and am now running a stock WW3.1 rooted rom
it was very simple to follow once i got all the software together going to run stock for a few days and then try a custom rom
Pleased to see you all rooted ok.
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In fact I'm going to grab that stock WW3.1 rooted rom and see how it is, I'm currently on primordial 3.1
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Just to add not long after putting the stock rom on I visited the developer forum and saw that Prime V1.4 had been released. Have downloaded and flashed it and my TF does seem to have more zip now.
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Just to add not long after putting the stock rom on I visited the developer forum and saw that Prime V1.4 had been released. Have downloaded and flashed it and my TF does seem to have more zip now.
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I am interested to see if any of you get a custom ROM and if you think it significantly improves performance.
At the moment, I am quite disappointed in the performance of the tablet.
Been holding off rooting due to not wanting to void warranty, and not positive about how/if can get back to stock for warranty purposes.
I want to be sure it is really worth the effort, and risk of warranty issues.

New OTA Xoom Update, but my xoom is rooted, what to do?

I keep getting prompted to download the new OTA update but I have a rooted custom rom (tiamat 1.4.4) can i download it anywya?
I have the same problem. I think I have to follow this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1079504 guide but i'm too lazy/scared to try right now. I might just wait for 4.0 and then see.
DeeJayCruiser said:
I keep getting prompted to download the new OTA update but I have a rooted custom rom (tiamat 1.4.4) can i download it anywya?
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Question - If you are rooted this is a no brainer. YOU JUST SAY NO... what ever they are offering you has probably been in the forum as a rom for quite some time. If they are offering you an update it probably means you are running an older rooted rom. Just update to the new rooted one in the development section.
DeeJayCruiser said:
I keep getting prompted to download the new OTA update but I have a rooted custom rom (tiamat 1.4.4) can i download it anywya?
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You could download it but I wouldn't recommend it. Best case scenario is you would just loose root. worse case is it won't boot (soft bricked) after install because it's not upgrading a "stock" phone. Pretty sure you will just loose root as tiamat 1.4.4 is not really a true full rom it's just a kernel.
Anyways I recommend you follow the instructions at
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074979to put on the "right" clockworkmod recovery. and then put on The HammerHead Rom (which is based on 3.2) at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1203635 the Hammerhead rom runs perfect for me (and most everyone else). Then put on the 3.2 Overclocked Kernel at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1200063
I was basically in your situation and I got all that done and all my 100+ apps reinstalled (using Titanium Pro) and basically everything set back up in about 2.5 hours.
Honestly how much research is done prior to rooting or do some of you just root for the hell of it. This is why there are so many I may of bricked my device threads......
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playya said:
Honestly how much research is done prior to rooting or do some of you just root for the hell of it. This is why there are so many I may of bricked my device threads......
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Easy, killer. Guy is probably just double checking.
playya said:
Honestly how much research is done prior to rooting or do some of you just root for the hell of it. This is why there are so many I may of bricked my device threads......
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I feel ya playaa... I used to be one of those folks. I did minimal research and just wanted to root to hack a videogame... Then i realized all the wonderful benefits of rooting and roms and spend hours reading new topics on development... But i still have friends that all ask me silly questions all day and one even ugraded ota on their g2 and lost root.. Now they have ginger 2.3.2 i thi k and that cannot be rooted last i checked. I do wonder why people do the minimal searching... I took the time to learn this stuff so why can they... It does get frustrating
Sorry. Not trying toput the OP down.. I mean we all start somewhere, but google and search feature are huge helps =)

Root iconia 3.2

Is anyone come up with a nap yet that will root the Iconia with 3.2?
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Goober22 said:
Is anyone come up with a nap yet that will root the Iconia with 3.2?
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I don't think anyone has tried rooting 3.2 with a nap yet, maybe that will work. Put it to sleep, then root it lol.
If anyone had found a one click root for 3.2, you can bet you'd see multiple threads on it knowing the monkeys around here
An app*
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No they have not to answer your question
I'm assuming you don't want to do the downgrade process to root your tab then?
Acer a500 (rom) Civato Mix
HTC Inspire (rom) Rcmix 3.3 sense 3.5
No nap root method.but there is a downgrade/install rooted 3.2.
Naps are fun when taken with the correct person root Not required.
Giggles
I did the downgrade and root method and didn't even lose data. It's seriously easy. Follow the instructions.
Link to downgrade
I can't seem to find the instructions. Thought they were stickied to main page but don't see them. I have 3.2 and would like to either downgrade and load rooted 3.2 or even just downgrade so I can root 3.1 and use that again.
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I did the downgrade and root method and didn't even lose data. It's seriously easy. Follow the instructions.
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Understatement of the century there. Takes about twenty minutes, including the time it takes to search the dev forum using the phrase "downgrade 3.2". You don't even need a PC, you can do it all using the tablet.
@ingrouille, it's in the development forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1276227
Then I would recomend [ROM] Rooted Stock HC 3.2 US Rom for CWM only (5-oct-11)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1290318
It's a stock rom that is already rooted, flashed through CWM.
Chad
Many thanks.
ugh, can't seem to revert. tried method two a multitude of times but I get the android logo with the yield/exclamation point each time.
wonder whats going on. checked formatting, the zip itself, the card is recognized by the tab, hmmm. any ideas? I've seen a few other people are having this issue also.
dinglayne said:
@ingrouille, it's in the development forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1276227
Then I would recomend [ROM] Rooted Stock HC 3.2 US Rom for CWM only (5-oct-11)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1290318
It's a stock rom that is already rooted, flashed through CWM.
Chad
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It looks like that's an A500 ROM, correct? I'd like to keep the "4G" portion enabled, so I don't think that will work for me. Drat.
Have you ever tried to search the forums?
This way works fine for the stock 3.2 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1307539
I used it to root my friend's A500 last week.
Cheers
VicDeo said:
Have you ever tried to search the forums?
This way works fine for the stock 3.2 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1307539
I used it to root my friend's A500 last week.
Cheers
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So... you basically cooked up your own rom and added SU to it.
To anyone else who needs to root just download kekinash's stock rom with superuser, it's the exact same thing as this without the steps just flash and you have rooted 3.2.
And you are in a small group of people that have SD card issues, I've owned 2 Iconia a500's and neither had a single SD issue.
It wasn't me
It was timmyDean who added root for stock 3.2. he described how to get root in adb shell only (the very first post in the thread I posted)
The way to add superuser for applications was described by chrishohl on the 3rd page of the same thread
Following his how-to one can get the rooted stock 3.2 without downgrade.
And you are in a small group of people that have SD card issues, I've owned 2 Iconia a500's and neither had a single SD issue.
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Nope, I haven't any issues with SD card, the only goal for now is 3G USB modem kernel modules. I haven't find any modules for the stock 3.2 kernel version.
Those for 3.1 failed to load with insmod since they had been built for another kernel version.
erica_renee said:
No nap root method.but there is a downgrade/install rooted 3.2.
Naps are fun when taken with the correct person root Not required.
Giggles
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**CHUCKLE**

[Q] Root of official ICS 4.0.3 IconiaTab A500

Hi!!!
How to root for Acer_A500_7.014.14_041.203.01_COM_GEN1.
My IconiaTab:
Firmware Acer IconiaTab A500 Android 3.2.1 (Acer_A500_701414_COM_GEN1) RUS
CMW (Acer Recovery Installer)
CWM_ACER_A500_701414_COM_GEN1[root].apk
Wait for you help
Yes please does anyone know yet how to root Acer a500 with official pics update from Acer? I received the update at midnight . I really want to gain root again for my dim app. I'd appreciate if anyone has a link or can help.
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Oh forgot to mention my tablet is the Gen 2 and received the update Us Louisiana.
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Updated this morning and rooted using this thread in Dev section : Full root for A500 ICS 4.0.3[LEAK]. Simple method. My build is Acer_AV041_A500_1.033.00_PA_CUS1
Interesting I used tegraowners black thunder root 6.0 and successfully rooted my tablet after official updated Acer a500. My build number is the 1.033 Gen 2. However on this black thunder root my build number is not listed as supported but it worked and rooted my tablet. Does it make any difference?.. also what is the remount app for?
Successfully rooted Acer a500 gen2 after official Acer update
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Acer update halted
Hi all, just got off the phone with Acer Australia, they said that the update has been put on hold until May 17 to iron out some bugs with the update itself.
Wasnt sure where to post this, so if anyone can link it to where it needs to be...
Thanks
trying root Full root for A500 ICS 4.0.3[LEAK] and patched boot loader acer-a500.ru/proshivki/4345-acer-ics-a500-001900221031-a501-0001-unblockeuucwm-403-fguy-23042012.html
Any news abiut this ?
Does anybody rooted the official ICS ?
thx!
lechuga said:
Any news abiut this ?
Does anybody rooted the official ICS ?
thx!
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Yes I rooted the official ics with this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1520469
I wish there was a way to root without using (shudder) Windows. I hate to admit there is a copy in my house...
geneven said:
I wish there was a way to root without using (shudder) Windows. I hate to admit there is a copy in my house...
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Seriously?
oh brother
sRDennyCrane said:
Seriously?
oh brother
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My thoughts exactly...
Who cares how you get root?!
Well, of course everyone has a copy of Windows conveniently located. I mean, it's a law, isn't it?
I admit I have sinned and don't have one that is easy to get to. I usually don't use it. Please don't burn me at the stake.
as am I
I'm also looking for root for official ICS release from Friday.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1520469 is the link I used to root official pics.
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I wish there was a way to root without using (shudder) Windows. I hate to admit there is a copy in my house...
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I'm a windows chik but I am trying to break the addiction forced upon me since birth...have u seen this? didn't read it all, but may be of use to you...
Root and patched bootloader installed. I'm happy
0) Update by OTA to ICS4.0.3 from HC3.2.1
1) 'Full root for A500 ICS 4.0.3[LEAK]' Yes. It's root and very easy root!!!!
2) '[GUIDE] Installing ICS V3 unlocked bootloader and custom recovery(1-M-2012)'. Yes. Unlocked bootloader and thor2002 recovery. Using blackthund3r ATX flash tool method!
It's fantasic! YES!!!!!!!!!!!!
Confirm that! It's work, thanks
daltz01 said:
Hi all, just got off the phone with Acer Australia, they said that the update has been put on hold until May 17 to iron out some bugs with the update itself.
Wasnt sure where to post this, so if anyone can link it to where it needs to be...
Thanks
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Thanks mate. I have been checking every day since the initial release. Now I can quit doing so until May 17 then.
Was looking every where to see if anyone in Australia had received it.
Cheers.
EDIT: this is not quite true. My tab notified me of the update a couple of hours ago. I am still downloading now.
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EDIT: this is not quite true. My tab notified me of the update a couple of hours ago. I am still downloading now.
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Really!!!!!!! hope that hits us over the ditch.....bummer, just after i switched my b/l to ics oh well, good chance to try out a downgrade i guess....

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