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Stupid noobie question I'm sure but I need some advice:
I'm running CM 5.0.5.3 on my N1 with AmonRa 1.7 recovery-cyan version and
App2SD. I partitioned my SD card with a 500mb ext2, then converted ext2 => ext3. All is good, but when I download apps everything is put into the main partition and I have nothing in the ext3 partition. Basically its wasted space of 500 mb right now.
How do I put apps, etc into the ext3 partition instead of the main partition? ADB push I would guess, as I can't copy/paste or move using Astro FM? If ADB push, what would be the command line instructions? Sorry, but don't know the programming language well enough to do it on my own.
you hv to enable App2SD in the Application section of the Setting menu to install apps in the SD ext partition... if you want to move ur apps, u'll hv to install CM 5.0.6 [has an option to move apps]... else, u hv to uninstall the apps and reinstall...
craigacgomez said:
you hv to enable App2SD in the Application section of the Setting menu to install apps in the SD ext partition... if you want to move ur apps, u'll hv to install CM 5.0.6 [has an option to move apps]... else, u hv to uninstall the apps and reinstall...
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Craig,
App2SD is enabled and presently storing ALL apps to the main partition. I understand updating to 5.0.6 to get the added functionality also. If I uninstall an app, say Pandora, how would I reinstall it on the ext3 partition? By default, wouldn't it just reinstall on the main partition with App2SD?
mtw4991 said:
Craig,
App2SD is enabled and presently storing ALL apps to the main partition. I understand updating to 5.0.6 to get the added functionality also. If I uninstall an app, say Pandora, how would I reinstall it on the ext3 partition? By default, wouldn't it just reinstall on the main partition with App2SD?
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I had the same problem and just went about getting my apps2sd working a different way. I have not been able to get of the built-in features (tethering, apps2sd) in cm to actually work so I use 3rd party solutions.
Its needs to be ext4 not ext3.
New Apps2SD method implemented mostly by Chris Soyars. Create an ext4 partition and enable it in settings->applications (wiki page coming soon)
shep211 said:
Its needs to be ext4 not ext3.
New Apps2SD method implemented mostly by Chris Soyars. Create an ext4 partition and enable it in settings->applications (wiki page coming soon)
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5.0.6 is the first iteration of CM that I am able to use apps2sd natively without having to resort to the older method of achieving this.
I just wiped/flashed and for kicks, gave it another try. Finally
Howdy.
I'm kinda new to the whole scene, but I managed to root my tattoo and than flashed the modaca R3 with additions.
But somehow I'm not sure if app2sd is working at all. Do I have to prepare something like Idontknowwhat creating a folder named "APP" or so?
I hope someone can actually help me..
Greetings
Blo234 said:
Howdy.
I'm kinda new to the whole scene, but I managed to root my tattoo and than flashed the modaca R3 with additions.
But somehow I'm not sure if app2sd is working at all. Do I have to prepare something like Idontknowwhat creating a folder named "APP" or so?
I hope someone can actually help me..
Greetings
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You need an Ext2/3/4 Partition. This can be done in recovery but wipes your sd card, so back up first
Also, MoDaCo ROM only includes Apps2SD if you select it in the online kitchen. If you don't have access to this, my ROM (see signature) is also based on stock and has Apps2SD
Hope this helps
Okay. That problem seems solved.
But I still have one question left:
When are the apps saved to SD? Are only new ones affected or does this also work for updates?
Thanks
Blo
Blo234 said:
Okay. That problem seems solved.
But I still have one question left:
When are the apps saved to SD? Are only new ones affected or does this also work for updates?
Thanks
Blo
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If you have the correct partition, all Apps are moved to the SD the first time you boot with Apps2SD enabled, then all new apps are installed there
I also have a few questions about partitioning to get apps2sdd. If you partition the sdd does the gold-card get wiped as well, or it just wipes the user data? And is Windows still able to mount the sdd when it's an ext2/3/4 partition? Finally is it safe to partition when using a custom ROM? (using HCDR 1.5 atm)
Jack Hair said:
I also have a few questions about partitioning to get apps2sdd. If you partition the sdd does the gold-card get wiped as well, or it just wipes the user data? And is Windows still able to mount the sdd when it's an ext2/3/4 partition? Finally is it safe to partition when using a custom ROM? (using HCDR 1.5 atm)
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Yes, the goldcard will get wiped. Everything does, unfortunately.
Windows is still able to mount the Fat partition of the SD card when using an Ext partition.
And partitioning in recovery is independent of the ROM being used so it will be fine no matter which ROM you use (glad to know you're on mine though )
installed link2d on stockrom after root with universal androot and formatted the second partition with fat32 since it doesn't support extX partitions.
Everything works.
link2sd asks what to link: app, dalvik-cache and library
Maybe must play with these settings to have WIDGETS still working when linked ?
I remember they usually stop working when installed on sd...
this omap is really fast !!!
with flash working great too !
I've used it just for games and a few things that are bulky like opera. I didn't try and widgets/livewallpapers because of the time spent preparing the SD card on startup.
It's so much easier using this when you don't have to worry about apps eating up all of your available storage.
I use it with almost everything. Only things that I'd like to have available when things go wrong and I have to boot without the card, I leave unlinked.
BTW. I'm using a kernel driver that was in the app2card .apk file to allow be to mount the partition as ext2 instead of fat32
A good thread on how to re-partition the SD card
Thanks to bakpinar
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I use it with almost everything. Only things that I'd like to have available when things go wrong and I have to boot without the card, I leave unlinked.
BTW. I'm using a kernel driver that was in the app2card .apk file to allow be to mount the partition as ext2 instead of fat32
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Can you post details about the driver file to use? I guess you must move it somewhere...
I dont need them since i'm happy with fat32 but someone could find them useful
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I'd be interested in finding out what you did to get app2card working....
I used it to partition the sd card fine (well when i finally managed to click the done button... grr...) and it copied apps to the same partition but it won't mount the partition and has kept the apps in the main memory too...
is there better apps or a way to do it that's easier?
does the flipout support ext2?
I love this phone to bits already but it's a major let down when you can only get a few apps on it with it being full and having a fit!!
Meh.... tried link2sd... now my home button doesn't work and nothing will download from the market...
Hi there,
I never dealt with creating swap partition. I'm using latest SwiftDroid now and like to know if it uses swap automatically. If not, would it be advisable to create one? How do I have to do this? Which size should it have and does SwoftDroid ASIS recognise it rigth?
I googled a lot and search in the forum, but didn't find helpful information.
Thanks
G00fY2 said:
Hi there,
I never dealt with creating swap partition. I'm using latest SwiftDroid now and like to know if it uses swap automatically. If not, would it be advisable to create one? How do I have to do this? Which size should it have and does SwoftDroid ASIS recognise it rigth?
I googled a lot and search in the forum, but didn't find helpful information.
Thanks
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using swap isn't the best idea as it kills ur sd card faster.
also a lot of people use about 200mb swap partition to about 300mb swap
partition..
u could get the app from the market ( swapper2 for root users )
or read this thread!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1317362
Mur4ik recommends swap 256MB for previous versions of SwiftDroid, so I think that is also applies to ASIS. ASIS can use swap automatically (no need to use swapper app) if you create swap partition as third on sdcard (second should be ext - in newest recovery you can create 2MB ext3 partition).
kretos said:
ASIS can use swap automatically (no need to use swapper app) if you create swap partition as third on sdcard (second should be ext - in newest recovery you can create 2MB ext3 partition).
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Okay, now slowly. I flashed my phone with Mur4ik's KDZ Method before installed SwiftDroid. So there should be 150MB for system,64MB for cache and 234MB free internal storage. Are the 64MB memory for swap? So that SwiftDroid always uses swap but with internal memory?
Now I don't understand what you say about second and third partition and what exactly Mur4ik suggest for his ROM. They are both an SD, aren't they? I use a 16GB class 4 SD card. So what should I do to get best performance with ASIS?
androidboss7 said:
using swap isn't the best idea as it kills ur sd card faster.
also a lot of people use about 200mb swap partition to about 300mb swap
partition..
u could get the app from the market ( swapper2 for root users )
or read this thread!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1317362
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thanks for recommending my thread yes goofy use the link to enable swap
Edit: oops i found out i deleted the pictures at the thread just restored them hope it makes it easier
G00fY2 said:
Okay, now slowly. I flashed my phone with Mur4ik's KDZ Method before installed SwiftDroid. So there should be 150MB for system,64MB for cache and 234MB free internal storage. Are the 64MB memory for swap? So that SwiftDroid always uses swap but with internal memory?
Now I don't understand what you say about second and third partition and what exactly Mur4ik suggest for his ROM. They are both an SD, aren't they? I use a 16GB class 4 SD card. So what should I do to get best performance with ASIS?
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150MB for system,64MB for cache and 234MB free internal storage <- it's internal storage of your phone, system is just system, cache is for files downloaded from internet, internal storage is for installing your applications.
On sdcard you should have primary partition (fat32), ext3 and swap (linux swap type) partition. The third will be automatically used. See thread mentioned above or copy everything from your sdcard to you computer, reboot phone into recovery and creat ext partition and swap partition (in that order) through recovery. Then reboot phone and copy data back from computer to phone's sdcard.
Ok, i managed to create 256MB swap partition.
So what do you say is the best swappiness value? I read that 60 seems to be to high?
PS: How can I see if swap works?
I leave mine at 60 to see If it works type free in a terminal on the phone
Ok it works. Terminal shows me that the phone uses swap. But I also recognised it by playing some games, which worked laggy before and now run very smooth.
About swappiness: I read that 30 seems to be the best for our phone?
ASIS set swappiness to higher value (I believe 60) - I've changed it to 30 in previous versions but now I just left it as it it. I don't see any difference.
Yay! no more third person software :3, native swap.
Thanks :3
Like everyone here, I have the famous HTC Leo. A friend installed Android on NAND, the 2.3.4 with the mod-HyperDroid CM7-v2.1.0.
This is a great device, but the more I use it, the more I have less internal memory.
At first, I installed a lot of applications, I was full of things and I ended up filling the internal memory. I moved the more applications possible on the SD card, but the internal memory ended up being full. So I uninstalled applications not too useful, and applications more useful, clean caches, remove data, but it is still too small. My system tells me that I only have 217.3 Mb total internal memory and while I hardly more than application system installed, I only have 21.3 MB available. Now, I know that this model has double.
I do not understand: what is this devilry? Where is my memory? How can I resume normal operation until all the memory is gone and my phone becomes unusable?
I can't be the only one to whom it happens, right?
only the data partition counts as internal memory, the rest is taken by the system, boot and recovery partitions, so your200+ sounds about right.
read up on creating an ext partition on your sd card, and either flash a rom that supports it already, or add a script to your current rom, , then, instead of using the data partition on the nand the system will use the sd-ext partition as if it were nand. (This is NOT the same as choosing 'move to sd' in the apps config screens, that moves it to the fat partition, and some apps wont work from there, , , all apps will work from the ext partition, and faster than the fat partition.)
There are two sets of scripts, some move the whole data partition to ext, meaning of course you are not using the 200+ mb on the nand, so for me i prefer the scripts that move only the apps to the ext partition, and keeps your actual data (txts, contacts, stuff like that) on the regular nand data partition, thus spreading the useage.
look out for keywords like 'app2sd+' 'data2ext' 'dataonext', , stuff like that when you're searching.
samsamuel said:
only the data partition counts as internal memory, the rest is taken by the system, boot and recovery partitions, so your200+ sounds about right.
read up on creating an ext partition on your sd card, and either flash a rom that supports it already, or add a script to your current rom, , then, instead of using the data partition on the nand the system will use the sd-ext partition as if it were nand. (This is NOT the same as choosing 'move to sd' in the apps config screens, that moves it to the fat partition, and some apps wont work from there, , , all apps will work from the ext partition, and faster than the fat partition.)
There are two sets of scripts, some move the whole data partition to ext, meaning of course you are not using the 200+ mb on the nand, so for me i prefer the scripts that move only the apps to the ext partition, and keeps your actual data (txts, contacts, stuff like that) on the regular nand data partition, thus spreading the useage.
look out for keywords like 'app2sd+' 'data2ext' 'dataonext', , stuff like that when you're searching.
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Excellent advice, but I think you forgot to mention this
Late I think me brain is playing tricks on me...:cyclops:
shanman-2 said:
Excellent advice, but I think you forgot to mention this
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so, pretty much exactly what i described, then....
shanman-2 said:
Excellent advice, but I think you forgot to mention this
Late I think me brain is playing tricks on me...:cyclops:
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So, I don't really need to use this. I just can install a new ROM on my NAND after making extending place on my SD for the 'dataonext', can't I?
I have to choose a dataonext ROM (with french version) and make new partition on my CD card. I'm saving all the SD card data's just now (with luckyBackup, because I'm on ubuntu PC).
My problem is find a good ROM for my needs. So, I have HSPL 2.0.8 and MAGLDR. How can I find the rom radio number? I need this information to choose the good ROM. Any advices about good ROM for my needs?
r no need to change the radio,,, if magldr works then the radio is fine.
samsamuel said:
r no need to change the radio,,, if magldr works then the radio is fine.
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I bought a new 16 GB SD card to try the method of post 1843062. I am trying to format as it should, and tonight or tomorrow, I'm trying to see if I can install the script without too much risk, I am not a very experienced user of ROM for HD2 and, in addition, as I'm 100% Linux Ubuntu, I saw that many procedures are more complicated or impossible to run from a Linux desktop.
Thank you for all your help and I'll let you know.
I need to understand.
I have a EU HD2 with HyperDroid CM7 installed on it.
Like many people here, my memory became too small over time. So I look for a solution and I was guided to this thread. While speaking, I read everything I could understand (and frankly there really is too much to read and understand, here ) and I ended up deciding to adopt the solution Kokotas.
So I bought a new SD card (16GB class 10 Duracell - I know, Duracell is a brand of batteries ...) and I formatted properly Gparted as shown, with one primary partition of 12 GB fat32 I named /données (French for datas) and a second primary partition 4 GB Ext4 I named /data.
Then I primed to install the script Kokotas (but I have not yet done so, this is the trick!) And there: surprise!
I suddenly 4 times more free memory internally (from 20 MB to 80 MB), but it is still the same overall size!
I wonder how it is done, because it's been months that I want to release the NAND memory, I deleted almost all my applications downloaded without great effect and there, before installing the solution Kokotas, hop, I have the place!
I run Nautilus on my HD2 connected via USB and what do I see? in the partition /data in ext4, records were Cres /app /app-private and /dalvik-cache.
What does that mean? My ROM can do one DATAtoEXT 2011 alone, when she sees a partition SD / data?
Do I install the script Kokotas or it is not worth it?
Do I flash a new ROM (I thought MIUI-MIX_3.3.1, but I'm not sure it's a good idea) without risk, in short I need to understand what happens with my phone.
Thank you.
(Sorry for my english : this is the fault of Google translation )
You might also consider just running an SD build instead of NAND. You can get a 2GB "internal storage" system.img and you don't risk getting bad blocks on nand by constantly flashing things. In my use of both I didn't really see any great speed increase or advantage in using NAND other than boot-up time is a bit less, but does that really matter?
Just another thought on this.
orangekid said:
You might also consider just running an SD build instead of NAND. You can get a 2GB "internal storage" system.img and you don't risk getting bad blocks on nand by constantly flashing things. In my use of both I didn't really see any great speed increase or advantage in using NAND other than boot-up time is a bit less, but does that really matter?
Just another thought on this.
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I thought NAND is better for battery's management...
Monolecte said:
I thought NAND is better for battery's management...
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I didn't see any great battery improvement with NAND.
ROM flashing don't work
I tried to flash MIUI-MIX_3.3.1, but, it wasn't working. I think this is because Resurection needs this specific table of partition and I don't how can I modify this table of partition. CMW had a partition tool? How can I do?
Monolecte said:
I tried to flash MIUI-MIX_3.3.1, but, it wasn't working. I think this is because Resurection needs this specific table of partition and I don't how can I modify this table of partition. CMW had a partition tool? How can I do?
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use the nand toolkit
samsamuel said:
use the nand toolkit
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With an Ubuntu PC?
After miles of thread reading here, I won against the machine!
I have something like a new phone.
Thank you everybody.
If I can do it, anybody can do it!
ubuntu or windows will be fine.
The NAND Toolkit is a Windows software... so...