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At&ts acquisition of T mobile might be very good for Sprint

At&t's acquisition of Tmobile may very well be one of the best things that ever hapened to sprint, leaving only one low priced nation wide carrier in the country. I predict that millions of former tmobile customers will have no where else to go but Sprint. Anyone disagree / agree with my prerediction? (excuae poor writing skills)
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What should Sprint do with Clearwire?

I dont havea clue. As I understand it, Sprint has plans of using its 800mhz spectrum for future 4g service. I don't know what they could possibly do with Clear's 2.5 GHZ spectrum.
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What should Sprint do with Clearwire?
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lol there goes the idea of sprint buying tmo....

snowmanwithahat said:
lol there goes the idea of sprint buying tmo....
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If Sprint bought T-Mobile I think it would hurt them ore than it would help.

DarkManX4lf said:
If Sprint bought T-Mobile I think it would hurt them ore than it would help.
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Sprint is worth about $267.64, T-Mobile is more than they can afford pal.

If this merger goes anything like the AT&T/Cingular merger the combined new company is bound to lose a ton of subscribers. That merger was a clusterfudge and a half and is the reason I'm a Sprint customer now.

I was a cingular customer during that time i didnt notice anything
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If I had a good chunck of money lying around I'd invest in Sprint as they have big plans for the future. Restating what someone above already said, AT&T aquiring T-Mobile is just going ot increase Sprint's number of subscribers, paired with their rumored and "unofficial confirmed?" lol if that makes sense - decision to move to LTE and finally topped with next weeks CTIA event where some REAL nice phones / tablets are expected to drop - Sprint is in for a subscriber boost. I'm on Sprint right now with my Epic 4G and had plans to possibly switch to t-mobile or At&t but now that At&t is buying Tmobile and will probably eliminate all Unlimited plans and sprint will get some actually nice phones that don't have a keyboard - I am definitely going to be sticking around! Oh and besides all that I just moved to West hills and now I have beautiful 4G coverage ALL through my house with 5 -7 Mbps down and 1 - 2 Mbps up So I'm one happy camper and its all about to get better when I upgrade the day Sprint releases their new phones to the public! Man waiting really pays off!
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You are amongthe select who has 4g
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Agree. Sprint should benefit in economy theory.

churro7 said:
I was a cingular customer during that time i didnt notice anything
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Wow, you're quite lucky - or maybe I just wasn't so lucky. They screwed me around quite badly. I'm not going to turn this into a flame AT&T thread, but generally speaking I was with AT&T since the analog days and they made it impossible for me to continue to use them as a direct result of that merger. Took my 3 lines to Sprint and never looked back. Best wishes to any happy T-mobile users out there who are going to be converted if the feds approve this.

all I got was a bill with AT&T instead lol
I came to sprint because it was cheaper.
still true now

churro7 said:
all I got was a bill with AT&T instead lol
I came to sprint because it was cheaper.
still true now
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Sorry, I have to rant here for a minute...
1st, I had just bought a new phone on the AT&T blue side. When they wanted to migrate me to the "orange" billing system because I wanted to up my minutes they told me I'd have to buy another new phone and I wasn't eligible for an upgrade. I wound up unlocking my phone myself and using the orange sim in it anyway.
Also, at the time I had 3 phone lines in 2 different area codes. They told me the new billing system wouldn't let me do that and I had to change a phone number that I had with them for several years. I ended up having to split the one line off onto its own account which cost quite a bit more per month but had no choice at the time and was generally happy with my coverage and equipment otherwise.
I also regularly dialed international long distance @ 85 cents/minute which equated to several hundred dollars a month (over $700 one month) which I always paid on time and with a smile. Shortly after they migrated my account I had an emergency while traveling and desperately needed to dial international which I was no longer able to do. I called AT&T post haste and they told me "We're sorry, since you've been a customer less than 90 days we cannot permit you to dial internationally". I explained the situation that since migrating to the new billing system I had a new account number and provided my old account number for them to verify. They claimed there was nothing they could do and I could appeal to a manager which would take 7-10 business days. I wound up talking to a complete stranger about my situation who let me use his landline. We had no idea what it would cost him to dial international from his line, so I gave him $50 which he refused but I insisted he take it. I moved carriers within days of that ordeal.
Thats just no way to treat an 8 year loyal, multi-line, international dialing customer dealing with a life and death situation. Money was never the issue, terrible customer relations was. Thats why I want to wish all those poor TMO users good luck - I hope they don't have the same experience.

litechocolate said:
At&t's acquisition of Tmobile may very well be one of the best things that ever hapened to sprint, leaving only one low priced nation wide carrier in the country. I predict that millions of former tmobile customers will have no where else to go but Sprint. Anyone disagree / agree with my prerediction? (excuae poor writing skills)
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great 4 sprint but this is BAD 4 us, y. cause there would be NOTHING to stop sprint from RAISING their rates or eliminating the unlimited plan. at&t would be the only GSM cell company in the US. in a way it would be a MONOPOLY! out of the 4 top carriers, sprint was the cheapest followed by t-mobile. FCC NEEDS 2 SQUASH THIS DEAL! unless metro pcs gets more towers, mark my words WE WILL SUFFER!

uranidiot said:
great 4 sprint but this is BAD 4 us, y. cause there would be NOTHING to stop sprint from RAISING their rates or eliminating the unlimited plan. at&t would be the only GSM cell company in the US. in a way it would be a MONOPOLY! out of the 4 top carriers, sprint was the cheapest followed by t-mobile. FCC NEEDS 2 SQUASH THIS DEAL! unless metro pcs gets more towers, mark my words WE WILL SUFFER!
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Agreed. AT&T is going to screw everybody. Look what they are already doing to T-Mobile Girl.
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Looks like it may be time to buy some Sprint stock.
EDIT: LOL It went down 16% today.

Something for Award Tour

Seems like God has it's issues too
http://androidandme.com/2011/04/car..._campaign=Feed:+androidandme+(Android+and+Me)
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But but but ...Verizon is God.
This is what I've been saying, technology isn't perfect.
No amount of money can protect you from problems.

Sprints 4G has not gone down and we have five times the amount of users. 3G works fine in most areas except his borough on NY.
Either way, tech is tech, things happen.
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You know I could explain what went wrong here, but I'm slightly enjoying the I told you so feeling. Also, I'd rather wait to see it reach 2 million LTE subscribers before I mention my reasoning. Having said that, Verizon's LTE strategy is fantastic for the consumers, and their 3G/4G offering is currently better than Sprint's. To say your carrier's 3G works fine everywhere but NYC is laughable and silly. Steps were made to make both 3G/4G more enjoyable for the customers, and your patience will be rewarded.

DirtyShroomz said:
Seems like God has it's issues too
http://androidandme.com/2011/04/car..._campaign=Feed:+androidandme+(Android+and+Me)
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Bwahahaha hmmm I wonder if he gonna show up. I'm sure he will
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in here eventually

popular nobody said:
You know I could explain what went wrong here, but I'm slightly enjoying the I told you so feeling. Also, I'd rather wait to see it reach 2 million LTE subscribers before I mention my reasoning. Having said that, Verizon's LTE strategy is fantastic for the consumers, and their 3G/4G offering is currently better than Sprint's. To say your carrier's 3G works fine everywhere but NYC is laughable and silly. Steps were made to make both 3G/4G more enjoyable for the customers, and your patience will be rewarded.
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Sprints network works fine except areas being upgraded where towers are being removed and integrated into one, we know this already, so yes it works fine in most areas believe me. The only reason I mentioned NY is because that's his area.
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this will get good !

lets not hate

Thank god I have the AT&T network to fall back on when it comes to data. I live in NJ and the service has gone to ****s.
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Sprint's network works great, except where it doesn't. Their 4G has never gone down, especially where it hasn't gone up yet.

Well, apparently I don't live in "most areas". Speeds here in Reno, Nevada range from barely tolerable to pathetic. At my house I average about 200 kbs down with a low of 87 kbs to just over 500 kbs. At work, in the middle of town, it averages a little better, around 800 kbs, but is much more erratic with lows around 100 kbs, and very rare highs of around 1600 kbs. Bottom line though, virtually all other carriers are faster than Sprint is here, by a pretty good margin. And it has been that way for about six months now. And then their is the 4g that was promised by the end of the year when I got my phone last June, lets just say I am not holding my breath. I think it would be a pretty good bet that all the other carriers will have 4g here before Sprint does.
That said, I am not necessarily a disgruntled customer. With the exception of Verizon, Sprint has the best coverage here, But Verizon's 4g probably won't get here any sooner than Sprints. ATT's phone call quality sucks, even though their 3g data speeds are at least 2-3 times faster than Sprint on Sprints best day. And Tmobile has the best speed of all, but their coverage totally sucks. So they all have their pros and cons. I'll stick it out for another year, until my current contract runs out. If Sprint doesn't get their act together by then though, I will definitely consider moving on.

DirtyShroomz said:
Sprints network works fine except areas being upgraded where towers are being removed and integrated into one, we know this already, so yes it works fine in most areas believe me. The only reason I mentioned NY is because that's his area.
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I've been with Sprint since 1999 and I'm not going anywhere; I'm a stick it through with them until their network gets better. However, I doubt that Sprint has been integrating the new system into the old one for over half a year in my area. In that amount of time, you would assume that at least one tower would be upgraded by now. My 3G service has 1x speeds everywhere I go in Miami.
Maybe it's one of those things where they can't flip the switch until EVERYTHING is upgraded......I don't know. However, anytime my girl sends me a short video of my kid doing something cute, it's a 20+ minute wait to download 5 MBs if I don't have 4G coverage or WiFi. I used to brag about how fast my phone was and now I try to sneak out of any conversation that has to do with data speeds. lol

DirtyShroom is thirsty to make his employer look good. Networks go down, and you act as if any of Sprint's network has never gone down before. Guess what, it has, and it probably will again.
BTW - I have absolutely no affiliation with Verizon. Don't even have an account with them (EVO/Sprint + ATT/iPhone). What I have said in the past is that:
A) Sprint's EVDO network in NYC is pathetic right now, and most signs point to overcapacity.
B) Verizon's LTE is both faster and more usable because of it's frequency.
So it seems as if Verizon's LTE network is currently down, doesn't effect me, and by the end of the day, it probably won't effect anybody.

Award Tour said:
DirtyShroom is thirsty to make his employer look good. Networks go down, and you act as if any of Sprint's network has never gone down before. Guess what, it has, and it probably will again.
BTW - I have absolutely no affiliation with Verizon. Don't even have an account with them (EVO/Sprint + ATT/iPhone). What I have said in the past is that:
A) Sprint's EVDO network in NYC is pathetic right now, and most signs point to overcapacity.
B) Verizon's LTE is both faster and more usable because of it's frequency.
So it seems as if Verizon's LTE network is currently down, doesn't effect me, and by the end of the day, it probably won't effect anybody.
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So now you lie? You clearly stated you moved one of your two lines to Verizon. I'm just showing you that even Verizon has issues. This is clearly affecting all 500k users.
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Award Tour said:
I have absolutely no affiliation with Verizon. Don't even have an account with them
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You should

DirtyShroomz said:
So now you lie? You clearly stated you moved one of your two lines to Verizon. I'm just showing you that even Verizon has issues. This is clearly affecting all 500k users.
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Find the post. You won't because it's all in your head. You choose to believe what you want to believe.

Award Tour said:
Find the post. You won't because it's all in your head. You choose to believe what you want to believe.
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Wow... So you never said you moved one line and were waiting until the Nexus to see if the network is fixed by then? Must have been another Award Tour or I could be completely wrong. Not searching on my phone for the post though.
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I distinctly remember this being said as well.
Let's own up to what we say.

Award Tour said:
Find the post. You won't because it's all in your head. You choose to believe what you want to believe.
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I even remember you saying you moved a line to Verizon lol. People dont forget man!
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mattykinsx said:
I distinctly remember this being said as well.
Let's own up to what we say.
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Agreed I remember that as well

all sprint towers being converted to 4g towers!!!!

Ok so I called Sprint because of my horrible 3g speeds and he told me it was because of my area..which is true since I live in downtown..but he told me not to worry because all Sprint towers will be converted to 4g and then he said its gonna be as fast as regular cable internet..not sure about that part but we will see!!!!!!!!!

Did they say any kind of time frame? Does 4g & 3g even run on the same tower? Sure he wasn't just feeding you something? If the signal is too bad and you complain enough they will give you an airave
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Not quite....
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good news...just one question-when?

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Not quite....
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Ditto
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Makes sense since most of their phones coming out are 4g.
How else will they rape everyone for the $10 service charge.

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LOL... 10char

jayharper08 said:
Did they say any kind of time frame? Does 4g & 3g even run on the same tower? Sure he wasn't just feeding you something? If the signal is too bad and you complain enough they will give you an airave
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He told me by the end of the year but maybe he was feeding me something lol but I have great signal but bad 3g and he said the airave would only be for signal strength for calls

OMFG!!!! This is great news!!!!!!!!
IB4TL
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jonathan413 said:
Ok so I called Sprint because of my horrible 3g speeds and he told me it was because of my area..which is true since I live in downtown..but he told me not to worry because all Sprint towers will be converted to 4g and then he said its gonna be as fast as regular cable internet..not sure about that part but we will see!!!!!!!!!
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It sounds like a bs a salesman would tell someone to make a sale.

jonathan413 said:
He told me by the end of the year....
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They told me that last year when I bought my EVO

jonathan413 said:
He told me by the end of the year but maybe he was feeding me something lol but I have great signal but bad 3g and he said the airave would only be for signal strength for calls
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And they told me through chat before the Evo was released on June 4th that my zip code 33033 (Homestead (in South Miami) already had 4g... Well needless to say I have yet to connect 1 time to 4g... oh and i get about 10kiloBITS per second as of like 3 months ago... Ima have them check my data usage and understand why it has plummeted... they owe me at least a months bill free! (And they better upgrade me to full upgradeability like i have had for the past 5 years!) Either that or I'll have them so fed with litigations they will forget how to breathe... I love sprint---- LOVED sprint... Im fed up now with this ****.
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really?
sprint rep / tech told me... (insert any blah blah to get you off the phone and not cancel)
cant wait.

jayharper08 said:
Did they say any kind of time frame? Does 4g & 3g even run on the same tower? Sure he wasn't just feeding you something? If the signal is too bad and you complain enough they will give you an airave
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Actually, Sprint is in the process of converting old towers which required separate componants for 3G and WIMAX and converting them into new, smaller, all-inclusive towers so that they will be 3G/4G

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Actually, Sprint is in the process of converting old towers which required separate componants for 3G and WIMAX and converting them into new, smaller, all-inclusive towers so that they will be 3G/4G
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this, and the first post in this thread are completely false... what are you guys smoking?
Sprint doesn't own any Wimax equipment, it belongs to Clearwire.
Clearwire will only be building out 4G Wimax sites in major cities, the suburbs will be built out by OpenRange..
so, there can never be a combined 3g/4g cell site, they will always have separate equipment for both.

rpoz4z said:
what are you guys smoking?
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Its on their website, a member here, rushco who I believe is an employee, linked me to the article. What are you smoking?

mlin said:
Its on their website, a member here, rushco who I believe is an employee, linked me to the article. What are you smoking?
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complete BS...

rpoz4z said:
this, and the first post in this thread are completely false... what are you guys smoking?
Sprint doesn't own any Wimax equipment, it belongs to Clearwire...
Clearwire will only be build out 4G Wimax sites in major cities, the suburbs will be built out by OpenRange..
so, there can never be a combined 3g/4g cell site, they will always have separate equipment for both.
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You've wrong. With Sprint Vision there will be one cellsite combining all technologies Sprint uses.
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here you go, dip****.
http://newsroom.sprint.com/press_kits.cfm?presskit_id=19

Its Official, Sprint converts CDMA network to LTE

http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/07/sprint-converts-its-cdma-network-to-lte/
They plan on lessening the hardware footprint by building multimode stations for the towers. At the top of the tower in the same radio they'll have 1.9 LTE, 1.9 CDMA, 800 CDMA and in the future 800 LTE. With LightSquared they'll have 1600 LTE. Sprint plans to have 120 LTE markets by the end of 2012, with LTE capable devices starting to appear the middle of next year. WiMAX devices will continue to be sold through 2012.

AngelofChaos said:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/07/sprint-converts-its-cdma-network-to-lte/
They plan on lessening the hardware footprint by building multimode stations for the towers. At the top of the tower in the same radio they'll have 1.9 LTE, 1.9 CDMA, 800 CDMA and in the future 800 LTE. With LightSquared they'll have 1600 LTE. Sprint plans to have 120 LTE markets by the end of 2012, with LTE capable devices starting to appear the middle of next year. WiMAX devices will continue to be sold through 2012.
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Sounds good to me....Thanks for sharing!

Well, I saw this coming, but it'll force most people to get new phones [if they want 4G].

teh roxxorz said:
Well, I saw this coming, but it'll force most people to get new phones [if they want 4G].
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that it will, and unfortunately with this new upgrade program Sprint is implementing, we're going to probably all be waiting till late 2012 or early 2013 to actually use that upgrade for any of the LTE capable devices.

Im sure Philly will be 1 of those first markets to get it so that good for me......
but how will this affect the Evo? Or will I have to upgrade to a LTE phone?
Hopefully when it comes out the Evo 4G+ will be LTE

but how will this affect the Evo? Or will I have to upgrade to a LTE phone?
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The Evo wont work with LTE, so if you want to use lte you would need to buy an lte phone.
As far as your evo, it seems like Wimax will still be supported for at least a few years, just no new expansion.

Greatness83 said:
Im sure Philly will be 1 of those first markets to get it so that good for me......
but how will this affect the Evo? Or will I have to upgrade to a LTE phone?
Hopefully when it comes out the Evo 4G+ will be LTE
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They still plan on using WiMAX along with LTE through 2012, so the EVO should be fine. After 2012 though, its not looking good for WiMAX. I would like to see Sprint's theoretical speed tests of this new network before I upgrade, though I'm certain they'll be much higher than WiMAX considering Verizon's speed tests.

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that it will, and unfortunately with this new upgrade program Sprint is implementing, we're going to probably all be waiting till late 2012 or early 2013 to actually use that upgrade for any of the LTE capable devices.
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Exactly...my mom still has the 1 yr upgrade come november, so I still may get the galaxy s II, but then we'll still have to upgrade come that time, once the LTE comes out and some actual LTE phone come out, but then by that point, the second wave of LTE phones will be out, so should have a decent selection.

Wasn't a huge fan of WiMAX. Hopefully with LTE Sprint will continue building out their network for better coverage. My upgrade is in June 2012 so it should be interesting to see what's out on the market.

No more losing Wimax keys as well lol..

Eh, WiMax sucks anyways. I get significantly faster HSPA+ speeds then WiMax, without all the coverage holes, building penetration issues, and battery drain. Good riddance.

So I guess I can stop checking the Clear coverage map for Wimax in my area.

well I should still have an upgrade come next june, so hopefully i'll be able to grab a LTE device.

AdamHart612 said:
Eh, WiMax sucks anyways. I get significantly faster HSPA+ speeds then WiMax, without all the coverage holes, building penetration issues, and battery drain. Good riddance.
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If you knew anything you'd know that it has NOTHING to do with WiMax itself and that WiMax is actually a better standard with proper implementation/spectrum.
It's Betamax/VHS situation all over again.

mattykinsx said:
If you knew anything you'd know that it has NOTHING to do with WiMax itself and that WiMax is actually a better standard with proper implementation/spectrum.
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Doesn't help anyone if that implementation doesn't exist.

Sounds like another 10 dollar increase
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Beginning to think its all an illusion..yep..heard the same about 4G when the EVO came out and after...still no 4G here. Won't believe it until I see it then it will be time to buy another phone on some promised hype that never shows.
If Sprint ever does away with unlimited data or raises rates I will be gone or maybe that is just an illusion too.

I wanted to upgrade to iPhone but now I'm holding it untill Sprint lte comes out with new lte phones.
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culua said:
I wanted to upgrade to iPhone but now I'm holding it untill Sprint lte comes out with new lte phones.
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Why not just buy it and then sell it when you want to upgrade?
It's not like much of the value is going to be lost over the next 6 months.
There's not gonna be another iPhone for a year or whatever.

Exactly !! Wimax is way better than LTE and so is its design and network sprint and clearwire don't have the money to make such a huge change and upgrade to WiMAX Rev.2
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Verizon Galaxy Nexus On Sprint?

Is it possible?
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Yes. You won't get 4g, but I assume there's a way for 3g and everything else sprint to work.
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xboxfanj said:
Yes. You won't get 4g, but I assume there's a way for 3g and everything else sprint to work.
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I figured 4G wouldn't work. I may buy one unlocked. You think that 4G would work once Sprint has their LTE towers up?
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Only the GSM models are unlocked Verizon & sprint are cdma & I think it really wouldn't work if you had a Verizon phone on sprint you would probably only get 1x not 3g I want the phone bad I've ask sprint on twitter, online I've asked Google & nothing no word which is stupid there big companies its either yes where getting it in a couple months or no we ain't carrying the galaxy nexus but they say squat
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younggangsta_s said:
I figured 4G wouldn't work. I may buy one unlocked. You think that 4G would work once Sprint has their LTE towers up?
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Nope. Lte will not be carrier crosscompatible.
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Killasmoke said:
Only the GSM models are unlocked Verizon & sprint are cdma & I think it really wouldn't work if you had a Verizon phone on sprint you would probably only get 1x not 3g I want the phone bad I've ask sprint on twitter, online I've asked Google & nothing no word which is stupid there big companies its either yes where getting it in a couple months or no we ain't carrying the galaxy nexus but they say squat
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Idk if the only 1x part is true because I think we use the same bands as them, so 3g should work.
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If I was to leave sprint I would go to T-Mobile cuz they got cheap plans & they are getting the galaxy nexus & there 3g is better the sprint's & there 4g is faster than sprints I've been with sprint for 9 years I want to stay but they got to get going & make there 3g faster or the same as Verizon & push out there LTE aggressive & keep unlimited & they will be # 1
Nexus S4G 4.0 ICS Frozen Goodies

Killasmoke said:
If I was to leave sprint I would go to T-Mobile cuz they got cheap plans & they are getting the galaxy nexus & there 3g is better the sprint's & there 4g is faster than sprints I've been with sprint for 9 years I want to stay but they got to get going & make there 3g faster or the same as Verizon & push out there LTE aggressive & keep unlimited & they will be # 1
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Would you mind if i introduced you to my good friend punctuation?

holy run on sentence.

latindor17 said:
Would you mind if i introduced you to my good friend punctuation?
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Wufff izs Chu twalkin bwout?
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I guess thats how long is the life of this thread