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Feels very solid... Keyboard is pretty good to type on, although the space bar on mine doesn't feel great. Feels a little too spongey as compared to the other keys. Might be just mine.
It's pretty easy to get the tablet in and out. Battery life is freakin' awesome and it's too cool having the SD slot available. Haven't tried the USB ports yet. Have had one of the trackpad lockups so far.
It`s too bad and I hope they fix it quickly because the trackpad is excellent. Very smooth and comfortable to the touch and the button works well.
All in all, for $550, I am very impressed. It will be difficult to go back to a laptop without an IPS screen now. Honeycomb, while definitely needing some love, is powerful and fun to use. The Transformer feels good as a tablet, and even nicer having the ability to be become an Android netbook in an instant.
I think back to buying the first white EEE with it's what, 4gb SSD? Technology is fascinating and moving so quickly. It's a great time to be using these tools / toys.
Good write-up. The tablet and keyboard combo are pretty impressive. Honeycomb is also impressing me more and more. I just wish there were some better options for certain categories of apps (FTP, text editing, word processing, etc.), but I know the apps are coming.
Hopefully Asus will resolve the keyboard lockup issues soon.
You dont happen to have a sdxc card to try? Spec say its supported but would like to know hands on
Sorry, I just have a 16gb SDHC.
I'm so far very impressed with mine. I'm typing on it right now. Definitely not as good as typing on a full size keyboard. Currenty there is a little delay from pressing the keys to when you see it in the browser. Probably the broweser or software rather than the keyboard. The multi touch scrolling works quite well. I haven't ran into the keyboard trackpad freezing bug and I have been using it for about an hour. The hot keys can be very handy. There's one for taking a screenshot, which is pretty cool. Does anyone know why the 1 and 6 keys have the circles? Very impressed with the combo even though honeycomb wasn't designed for it.
EDIT: editing this post with the opera mobile browser doesn't have the lag. There's definitely and issue with the default browser and delay in typing on the keyboard. The opera browser is nice, but it doesn't resize pages when zoomed in.
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I'm so far very impressed with mine. I'm typing on it right now. Definitely not as good as typing on a full size keyboard. Currenty there is a little delay from pressing the keys to when you see it in the browser. Probably the broweser or software rather than the keyboard. The multi touch scrolling works quite well. I haven't ran into the keyboard trackpad freezing bug and I have been using it for about an hour. The hot keys can be very handy. There's one for taking a screenshot, which is pretty cool. Does anyone know why the 1 and 6 keys have the circles? Very impressed with the combo even though honeycomb wasn't designed for it.
EDIT: editing this post with the opera mobile browser doesn't have the lag. There's definitely and issue with the default browser and delay in typing on the keyboard. The opera browser is nice, but it doesn't resize pages when zoomed in.
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How about apps like Polaris Office? Any lag there?
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How about apps like Polaris Office? Any lag there?
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There is a little bit of lag with polaris and the dock, but not enough to bother you. I was used to an Asus Eee Netbook, and with just the tablet some things get annoying. Alot of the websites have lag that is noticeable, namely facebook. it will take some getting used to, but with the dock it makes it exponentially better.
The main thing that is bugging me is all of the little short-cuts, as I have mentioned in another thread. Not being able to hold down Ctrl to open a link into a new tab is going to get some getting used to / etc.
Overall, I think you will be pleased with the experience. I was mildly skeptical of a tablet on honeycomb that had a keyboard attach to it, but it turns it into a close to windows netbook experience that is acceptable. The added benefits of a non-touchscreen tablet are far outweighed. I would choose my transformer with docking keyboard over a regular netbook any day.
Just out of curiousity, do you see the lag when using the default browser?
Is the lag still there if you use a different browser? (Like wynand32 tried with Opera.)
I am at work now, so I can't try it on mine. I love this thing, but I am pretty frustrated with the keyboard stopping working all the time. Asus better fix that quick. I swear, I'd be close to selling the bundle and checking back in a few months but I wouldn't feel right selling them right now....
The fun of being an early adopter!
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Just out of curiousity, do you see the lag when using the default browser?
Is the lag still there if you use a different browser? (Like wynand32 tried with Opera.)
I am at work now, so I can't try it on mine. I love this thing, but I am pretty frustrated with the keyboard stopping working all the time. Asus better fix that quick. I swear, I'd be close to selling the bundle and checking back in a few months but I wouldn't feel right selling them right now....
The fun of being an early adopter!
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So far the delay in typing to when you see the text on the screen is only in the default browser. It works fine when typing in the url/search bar, but when typing in text boxes on a web page, there is significant lag. I have opera mobile, and it doesn't have lag.
I would test polaris office, but I'm not at home with my tablet right now.
Also, so far no freezing keyboard bug for me. Used it for about 3 hours last night, and left it docked all night, and was still working in the morning.
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So far the delay in typing to when you see the text on the screen is only in the default browser. It works fine when typing in the url/search bar, but when typing in text boxes on a web page, there is significant lag. I have opera mobile, and it doesn't have lag.
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Just FYI I get notable lag typing in textareas on the default browser even when using a software keyboard, I think its a problem with the textarea rendering not a specific input device.
Is the spacing of the keyboard any better than a netbook? I have an asus 10 inch netbook and find the keyboard too cramp to type effectively.
Due to the size of the tablet, it's actually spaced pretty well.
Not as good as a full keyboard, but it's not bad.
Does the touch screen still operate when docked and how well?
Yep, and it works very well!
(It's cool to reach up and touch the screen.)
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Is the spacing of the keyboard any better than a netbook? I have an asus 10 inch netbook and find the keyboard too cramp to type effectively.
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It is smaller than a normal keyboard. 92% of full size according to Asus. I find it fine to type on if you have really big hands it lay be more difficult. My main issue is my palms hit the trackpad quite a bit.
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Yes... just as well. Watch/read reviews people. Most questions are answered in them.
played with mine for a bit. 2 very big pluses.
1. can read ntfs formatted disks. i haven't tried write, but reading from my portable wd driver it works wonderfully.
2. spare emergency phone (or any usb device) charger. i'd assume it could only pump out 5 watts since it's usb 2.0.
holy smokes! full read AND write to ntfs drives. this makes hauling movies and storage almost a non-issue.
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played with mine for a bit. 2 very big pluses.
1. can read ntfs formatted disks. i haven't tried write, but reading from my portable wd driver it works wonderfully.
2. spare emergency phone (or any usb device) charger. i'd assume it could only pump out 5 watts since it's usb 2.0.
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Can you confirm that the dock will indeed charge a smartphone? That would be a pretty significant plus I'd not thought of...
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holy smokes! full read AND write to ntfs drives. this makes hauling movies and storage almost a non-issue.
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How is the interface? Does it pop up a home screen icon or file browser when you plug the drive in?
does anyone have a usb controller working fully on their tab yet? ive been searching around and i see people here and there who claim to have it working but i havent found anything substantial. im running virtuous xoom 1.1.2, with the stock kernel, and i have a generic usb controller, the kind that looks like a ps3 controller. it would be great to have it working like they displayed on the transformer at CES
I plugged in a Logitech controller and I could atleast move he cursor on the opera browser.
360 wired works.... but I don't see the point. The UI is clunky with it and I can't find any games yet that support it.
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I recently have run into Droidmote. I have a good setup at home but wanted to use my Asus Transformer as the mouse and keyboard. Took me 2 weeks to really find something that worked. Not sure if anyone is interested but I thought this was a cool find. Definitely worth the $2. Just put this on your Motorola Photon (or other android device) I have been using it on my webtop for the passed 3 hours. pretty awesome
https://market.android.com/details?id=org.videomap.droidmoteserver
Also posted one of my worst videos of my life posted on youtube lol, due to me being too excited. This is also the same dock I purchased for $29.99 btw
http://youtu.be/g40xvAL1R-M
Why? Your tf should be able to do anything your phone can.
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Why? Your tf should be able to do anything your phone can.
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I don't think I explained what exactly I was doing. Since I dont want 2 mice and 2 keyboards on my desk looking messy, I was looking for an app to use my Transformer as the mouse and keyboard to keep things clean. This is what I was looking for...
Nice setup! Im using my TF for something similar. Using Tablet Remote, I connect the TF to a projector and use my HTC Aria as a bluetooth mouse to change ppt slides (Polaris Office) for presentations. I love the questions afterwards about the setup. Always get the,"I didnt know Ipads could do all that!" My response," They can't, that's why I use an ANDROID!!!"
Back to your setup, I like that idea of using the tablet as your mouse and keyboard also. Very sound for hygeine freaks who dont like sharing keyboard & mouse with others!
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Nice setup! Im using my TF for something similar. Using Tablet Remote, I connect the TF to a projector and use my HTC Aria as a bluetooth mouse to change ppt slides (Polaris Office) for presentations. I love the questions afterwards about the setup. Always get the,"I didnt know Ipads could do all that!" My response," They can't, that's why I use an ANDROID!!!"
Back to your setup, I like that idea of using the tablet as your mouse and keyboard also. Very sound for hygeine freaks who dont like sharing keyboard & mouse with others!
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I love my TF101, and I'm as far from an Apple fanboy as you can get, but unfortunately I have to correct some misinformation here. The iPad can control presentations as well. The CEO of my company has one and controls all his presentations with it. He makes a big deal of it too, and I'm always thinking "my Transformer does that as well, cost less, and isn't chained up in the walled garden of Apple."
Back on topic, this app is perfect for using as a BT keyboard and mouse. I'm planning on setting it up at home, so I can work without being restricted to my chair at my computer desk. It gets uncomfortable during long sessions.
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hashbrown said:
Nice setup! Im using my TF for something similar. Using Tablet Remote, I connect the TF to a projector and use my HTC Aria as a bluetooth mouse to change ppt slides (Polaris Office) for presentations. I love the questions afterwards about the setup. Always get the,"I didnt know Ipads could do all that!" My response," They can't, that's why I use an ANDROID!!!"
Back to your setup, I like that idea of using the tablet as your mouse and keyboard also. Very sound for hygeine freaks who dont like sharing keyboard & mouse with others!
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I want correct you:
Tablet Remote not have mouse and not have a real gamepad only DroidMote have this futures.
ehh, TabletRemote does what I need it to do: Using my phone to control the TF via BT whilst presenting. Your right, it's just a touchpad not a mouse
Back to OP, can droidmote be used on TF to desktop w/o the need for a phone inbetween?
with droidmote you can remote control an android device (phone/tablet), a windows desktop or a linux desktop.
in all three situation with your phone you can simulate a real mouse, a real keyboard a real gamepad also with accelerometer functions.
all this input device are seen from the kernel as real devices.
DroidMote is a serious remote control not only because it was developed by me
wow! droidmote is soooo responsive! im loving it! its more responsive than my rocketfish bt keyboard and mouse. this is going to be awesome! im using the htc aria and the optic wheel works great over bt. only issue ive noticed is the voice commands dont register input. other than that, its great!
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hashbrown said:
wow! droidmote is soooo responsive! im loving it! its more responsive than my rocketfish bt keyboard and mouse. this is going to be awesome! im using the htc aria and the optic wheel works great over bt. only issue ive noticed is the voice commands dont register input. other than that, its great!
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Agreed, I love using this app. To Zulu, thank you sir lol. I've been using it all the time when I'm geeking it out playing BF3 on my main monitor and then music playing on my phone.
DroidMote is perfect for this really responsive and good lay out, but if your not rooted try Try Tablet Remote as a general android to android remote not got mouse control but has good interface and gamepad feature in the same style as Xperia Play. Tablet linked to TV via HDMI cable>>running tablet remote on both using gamepad to control a game on tablet and view on big screen ideal!
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DroidMote is perfect for this really responsive and good lay out, but if your not rooted try Try Tablet Remote as a general android to android remote not got mouse control but has good interface and gamepad feature in the same style as Xperia Play. Tablet linked to TV via HDMI cable>>running tablet remote on both using gamepad to control a game on tablet and view on big screen ideal!
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You can also try LANmote too if you have root, especially if you want to use your computer or Iphones as the remote
https://play.google.com/store/search?q=lanmote
It might not give you a full blown desktop OS, but it surely has to be a lot faster than the current webtop,and a bit more user friendly than installing GenTop.
I haven't used my Lapdock much because its so slow,so I'm looking forward to having something that is actually usable once we get ICS.
I was initially turned off by the fact we wouldn't be running a full version of Ubuntu, but after doing some thinking,I would rather have something thats faster with some limitations than something full featured that runs slow. Running android and only android has to be faster than any other method of the Webtop interface.
Anyone else agree?
I also agree, and I think that if we want a full-featured OS Webtop we would need a quad-core phone. Gentop is nice however isn't user friendly.
There's also HDMI mirroring but the resolution is upscaled and enlarged so when its plugged into a Lapdock it looks LQ.
Plus mirroring is laggy since its outputting to the phone screen and another screen.
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What's funny is that Ubuntu Webtop isn't even full featured. It's pretty much just Firefox and a file manager. And yet it's still really slow somehow. You have to download a Webtop mod to get true Ubuntu features. Webtop 3.0 will be very welcomed.
I think it's interesting, and going to be pretty useful, but its going to be majorly flawed. I plugged a mouse into my ics tablet to get a sense of how a tablet os works without a touch screen. First impressions were pretty decent, there were a few oddities, like precision zooming, but for the most part, the experience was ok.
Then it hit me, I had been using the scroll wheel a huge amount and on trying to use the device without it, ended up with lists flying everywhere and cramped wrists, similar to using the lapdock*with mobile view..... Unless motorola can add some degree of trackpad scrolling, my lapdock will end up on ebay, or my phone will remain on gingerbread. With my macbook (no multitouch, just two finger scrolling), i have never felt the need to use a mouse for 3 years, sure, arrow keys help, but the single touch lapdock trackpad problem is exasperated by changing to a touch based os.
I just don't see it being practical, i think the concept is great an I think this would be amazing to have, but it would be so much better to have it alongside more of an ubuntu for android type distro for real laptop like flexibility. We also neeeeeed a better scrolling mechanism on the lapdock. Put all of this in place, and I don't think I would need any other laptop!
Give me webtop 3, with its inferior browser (firefox renders better, supports more standards and has real right click operations than chrome beta or the ics browser) and its inability to multitask and show more than one item on the screen and I will be quite disappointed. Having a 16/9 tablet also highlights how ics isn't particularly good for wide screens such as the lapdock as there are several apps that sit in the middle of the display flanked by white space such as the market.
I just really hope we can get a gentop2 port or an ubuntu for android port working if motorola drops the ball and leaves us with a really compromised experience. Potentially they could do a really good job if they can get all apps to work nicely in tablet mode and add side scrolling to the trackpad... please motorola, I'm waiting with both excitement and trepidation.
I agree the touchpad should have had side/two finger scrolling, but the arrow keys/pg up/down makes a half decent substitute.
A couple of concerns I would have:
1. Finding a decent VNC app that works well with the control scheme.
2. Printing from ICS.
When is it coming out??
when we get ICS, Q3 of this year
hopefully the lag go away
webtop is similar to tabletui of cm9?
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webtop is similar to tabletui of cm9?
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Similar, but it only works if you have a dock with your atrix.
essentially, its just like a tablet without the touchscreen if you have a lapdock.
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Similar, but it only works if you have a dock with your atrix.
essentially, its just like a tablet without the touchscreen if you have a lapdock.
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Take a look at the webtop 3 video in the ics demo video thread, looks like a dock may no longer be neccessary
Plus, this is better than the current mirroring solutions as it takes the native display resolution of the hdmi device as opposed to stretching the phone resolution.
webtop 3.0
just got the OTA on my RAZR, first thing I did was plug in my lapdock to check out 3.0, and I have to say it is sooo much better than the old version... most of the lag is gone. Its still not perfect, but it is very usable now. Hopefully they won't delay the update for you guys too much longer
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just got the OTA on my RAZR, first thing I did was plug in my lapdock to check out 3.0, and I have to say it is sooo much better than the old version... most of the lag is gone. Its still not perfect, but it is very usable now. Hopefully they won't delay the update for you guys too much longer
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Can you post few screenshots and the programs that have been added
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Unfortunately i am on vacation and forgot to put the dock in my bag. As far as programs being added there really isn't anything added they removed more and focused on an Android experience, Firefox is gone, as well as mobile view. Basically it is your phone screen blown up to the size of the monitor... the browser is your browser from your phone as well as the app drawer and everything else... instead of the software running on top of your phone's OS it is your phone's OS magnified. Which makes it a smoother experience and for me more productive. You can switch app display modes from tablet mode to phone more for the ones that don't scale well but I haven't had any issues yet.
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Has anyone tried running a VNC'ed and chrooted linux distro on webtop 3? How does it compare to the gentop2 and other webtop modifications we currently have?
I guess the main question is how well android works as a desktop os and how is the multitasking? I think its great that motorola have removed the provision for the dock and I can see myself using webtop 3 a huge amount hooked up to my TV, but I want a more productive lapdock experience. I wonder how possible an onskreen cornerstone port would be just for webtop or a port of gentop2 to the new ICS ROMs.
I have been using the Overskreen app for a while on my tablet, I think its going to be the first thing I install once we get ICS on the atrix!
Found a lapdock 500 today for $175 so I picked it up lol here are a couple screens
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I want it on my atrix so, so very much. Web browsing, streaming vids, music all stuff android does awesomely made more awesome by lapdock resolution
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Youtube some Webtop 3.0 action and you will see just how night and day the difference is from the Atrix-Webtop 2.0/1.2 experience. My take on it is that it essentially turns your phone interface experience into a tablet+keyboard+mouse experience--meaning that you get to a comparable performance to your phone-mode in tablet-mode, which you can navigate with the keyboard and touchpad in native resolution. ICS has a great deal more flexibility in this department. I watched videos of the RAZR Webtop 3 experience with an eye on the little things like stuttering, delay, touchpad usefulness, keyboard input lag, and other little nitpicks. It's about 85% of what I wish ICS and a lapdock to be capable of. That's a far cry from the 20% I got from the Atrix lapdock and stock (or Gentoo or Ubuntop) experiences I had. It just didn't work at all.
Droid Bionic ROMs were being pulled from the Moto development cloud by the end of June. There's been at least 4 since a couple days ago. The Xyboard something-or-other had it's first the other day. Moto's ICS rollout schedule is so far on track. I feel comfortable conjecturing that we US MB860 users will at the LEAST have a couple flashable development ROMs leaked by the end of July. And those will defffffinitely include Webtop 3.0.
So buck up gents. It's Coming Soon. ICS.
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Found a lapdock 500 today for $175 so I picked it up lol here are a couple screens
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Looks nice, the dpi does look about right for the lapdock, everything is small enough to work nice with a mouse. The lapdock 500 has multi touch scrolling doesn't it? How easy is it to use android with the trackpad and is it ergonomic without multi touch? I use a right click and scroll plug in installed on firebox which makes a huge difference with the terrible trackpad on the atrix lapdock but obviously this won't work on Webtop 3.
Looking forward to your answer, im looking foreward to alot of the improvements but the atrix and it's dock was never designed for Webtop 3 so I'm a little bit nervous about how some things will work. I use my lapdock nearly every day and I want it to be as useful as possible!
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Yes the multi touch scrolling compared to using the ATRIX lapdock I had before is much nicer, before that I typically clicked on the pg up and pg down keys for web pages... for scrolling desktops and app drawer you kind of just click towards the edge of the screen to move over to the next page. The experience in general is much simpler and faster because you don't have to deal with resizing the mobile view or changing between portrait and landscape it is all in one screen now all the time like a regular android device. Windowed mode is no more which makes it feel less like a desktop device but tapping the third button at the bottom left opens a task switcher that works very well.
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I have a udraw game tablet for the Xbox 360...theses tablets are under 20 dollars online and seem to work very well. I know you can use them on the PC but can't find how to get this working...any ideas??
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This is for the ps3 but the idea might work for ya. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxc2gxFVhbM
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This is for the ps3 but the idea might work for ya. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxc2gxFVhbM
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Yeah but what about drivers...you think the same ones would work for the Xbox one
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Here is some neat stuff I found:
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/mice-pointers/mice/touchpad-t650
This is what the OP is looking for. Like a big laptop trackpad with tons of gestures but it is $80 so probably not worth the money.
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/mice-pointers/mice/zone-touch-mouse-t400
Here is a mouse that replaces the mouse wheel with a trackpad with support for some gestures, including Windows 8 ones.
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/mice-pointers/mice/touch-mouse-t620
Finally this mouse has replaced the entire surface with a trackpad. I have no idea how awkward traditional pointing and clicking would be but it seems to be nice alternative to the traditional mouse with lots of gesture support. It is pricey though at $70 and it would probably take some time getting used to.