usb controller - Acer Iconia A500

does anyone have a usb controller working fully on their tab yet? ive been searching around and i see people here and there who claim to have it working but i havent found anything substantial. im running virtuous xoom 1.1.2, with the stock kernel, and i have a generic usb controller, the kind that looks like a ps3 controller. it would be great to have it working like they displayed on the transformer at CES

I plugged in a Logitech controller and I could atleast move he cursor on the opera browser.

360 wired works.... but I don't see the point. The UI is clunky with it and I can't find any games yet that support it.
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Xbox 360 controller support? *UPDATE - Testers needed!*

I'm curious, with USB hosting how possible is it that someone will be able to create a driver to get an Xbox 360 controller working on the Xoom? I'm thinking a wired controller of course, but if one could get the PC wireless receiver working as well, that would be pretty cool too.
I found this ROM for the Elocity A7 in which the developer seems to have gotten it all working pretty well, including the wireless receiver. I would absolutely LOVE to play some emulators with the Xbox 360 controller!
So, what do you guys think, doable?
*Update (see post 17): Member thegeektern needs some help testing a kernel he's working on to get this working. He doesn't have the host USB cable or the wired controller yet. I'll be ordering the two shortly and will help if nobody else has already by the time they arrive.
jeston said:
I'm curious, with USB hosting how possible is it that someone will be able to create a driver to get an Xbox 360 controller working on the Xoom? I'm thinking a wired controller of course, but if one could get the PC wireless receiver working as well, that would be pretty cool too.
I found this ROM for the Elocity A7 in which the developer seems to have gotten it all working pretty well, including the wireless receiver. I would absolutely LOVE to play some emulators with the Xbox 360 controller!
So, what do you guys think, doable?
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If the interface is there, USB controllers, its doable. Drivers are a pain in the butt. At least for me. But I would rather focus on getting something like a mouse working first.
Don't know if this was done anywhere else before, but there is an eLocity rom that has this capability. Here's the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=923801
EDIT: err...nevermind...just reread OP and saw that you already linked the thread so nevermind
That would be ridiculously amazing. What would be even better is if it was wireless, but I doubt that is a possibility.
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That would be ridiculously amazing. What would be even better is if it was wireless, but I doubt that is a possibility.
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If they got the USB controller to work, maybe the devs could get the USB dongle to work as well:
http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-Wireless-Gaming-Receiver-Windows-Pc/dp/B000HZFCT2
Yeah, I'm guessing once somebody gets just the regular wired controller working, getting the wireless receiver working as well wouldn't be that difficult. I'm not that bothered about that though. I'm not going to be far enough away to need wireless and if I have to plug the receiver in any way that's not much different than just plugging the controller in.
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jeston said:
Yeah, I'm guessing once somebody gets just the regular wired controller working, getting the wireless receiver working as well wouldn't be that difficult. I'm not that bothered about that though. I'm not going to be far enough away to need wireless and if I have to plug the receiver in any way that's not much different than just plugging the controller in.
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Imagine this though. At a hotel, hook the Xoom/other android tablet into the TV through HDMI and then whip out your xbox 360 wireless controller and play some n64 games or something in bed. YES PLEASE.
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Imagine this though. At a hotel, hook the Xoom/other android tablet into the TV through HDMI and then whip out your xbox 360 wireless controller and play some n64 games or something in bed. YES PLEASE.
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That's a damn good point! I'm thinking someone could make quite a bit of donation money if they were to make this work. Wink wink!
We're mostly there already. If that datel retro wireless controller keeps getting good reviews I think it would be better to pick that up though.
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We're mostly there already. If that datel retro wireless controller keeps getting good reviews I think it would be better to pick that up though.
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I suppose that's better than lugging around a Wiimote and classic controller, but I, and I'm sure many others, would rather use an Xbox 360 controller.
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We're mostly there already. If that datel retro wireless controller keeps getting good reviews I think it would be better to pick that up though.
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I have the datel and it works flawlessly with the xoom. Worth every penny!
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FYI I have the wireless receiver and it draws a lot of power from the USB port - more than the allotted 500ma - and it got some notoriety for causing problems on systems that were not capable of providing the extra power. On my system, for example, it knocked out the audio when plugging it in, because the audio was actually USB internally.
So it may not be so great on a Xoom.
However, I agree that it would be truly awesome to get at least wired controllers working!
Could this problem be fixed using a powered USB hub, I wonder? Just more things to plug in, of course. I really would like to see at least the wired controller working, though!
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techs1200 said:
I have the datel and it works flawlessly with the xoom. Worth every penny!
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Which wii connectivity app are you using to get the retro controller working??
techs1200 said:
I have the datel and it works flawlessly with the xoom. Worth every penny!
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I've just ordered one. Would be good to know what app you use also. Thanks.
I believe Wiimote Controller is said to have the best support for the Retro controller.
Still want a 360 controller though...
Hey does anyone have a xbox 360 controller and the cable needed to hook it up to a xoom, plz pm me if you would be willing to help test the controller with the xoom.
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Hey does anyone have a xbox 360 controller and the cable needed to hook it up to a xoom, plz pm me if you would be willing to help test the controller with the xoom.
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Unfortunately when my house was robbed a few weeks back they took my old wired controller, so I need to buy a new one. Also, been waiting to get the host cable until I had a reason (this is it).
Just purchased another wired controller and the host cable. Unfortunately the estimated arrival from Hong Kong is April 8 - April 21... Hopefully someone is able to help test before that.
I have the wireless reciever, and 4 controllers and 2 head sets I can test that with if you guys want to try to get that working. I get the wifi xoom on sunday.

FOR GAMERS WITH ICS: aftermarket controller that works with games.

Dont know if many of you guys knew, but the glow wired controllers from gamestop works fine with ics.. tried my microsoft xbox 360 controller and official sony controllers and no dice..plugged in this controller and worked instantly.. gta, shadowgun,emulators, onlive etc and they are only 30 bucks. hopes this helps a bunch of pissed people who couldnt use gamepads like me on their tabs.
Is this the controller you're talking about:
http://www.gamestop.com/xbox-360/accessories/xbox-360-afterglow-controller/77445
If not could you post a link?
Thanks.
this ics release sounds more like a down upgrade.
No way I'm going to shell out more money when I already bought the Xbox controller just for the transformer (I don't even have a Xbox)
Yes that's it (second post) but I got the ps3 version don't know if it will make a difference.
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I have no issues with my PS3 controller, once I connect the USB cord to the Dock and press the PS3 button.
However games like shadowgun play a little akward, so I setup custom keys using usb/bt joystick center. It takes a bit to configure everything, but once you do it works excellent.

Recommended Gamepad for Nexus 7

Can anyone recommend a good Bluetooth gamepad for the Nexus 7. I saw that the PS3 is supported, although I don't have a controller right now, and I think they are top end in terms of cost ?
I assume that you also need to download some software from Google Play to manage the gamepad, I dont think that Android has native support. I am aware of Sixasis controller, however is there are good free software instead ?
Also is root a mandatory requirement for the software to control the gamepad.
Cheers
I don't have any other advice for you, but I have to say I have a sixaxis controller and the program "sixaxis controller" from the play store. It works so well I haven't considered anything else. As for cost, check out local pawn shops for the controller might get one cheap. Playing dead trigger with the ps3 controller is much better than using the touch screen.
Sorry I didn't have any additional information. Also yes, root is required for sixaxis.
Agree, I bit the bullet and bought a ps3 dualshock3 sixaxis and the sixaxis app, well worth it.... Just becareful with the cheaper ones available on ebay as there are alot of fakes that don't work with sixaxis....
there's a good thread on here with some games already having profiles for them as well if you haven't already seen it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1779386
I must figure out how to get MAME setup, I think that would be lots of fun with a PS3 controller and a Nexus 7 which is what I will buy. Thanks
One controller that I heard is good (although I havent tried first hand) is the icontrolpad ( http://www.icontrolpad.com ). Apparently they are bluetooth controllers so they will be able to work with the N7 or any device that has bluetooth capabilities. It is a pretty steep price to bite the bullet on though.
Thanks for the link. I noticed that the iControlPad says that it's compatible with many emulators.
Is the PS3 controler with sixaxis compatible with MAME and other emulators ?
Maybe it's me, but the iControlPad gamepad does'nt have an asthetically pleasing design
I'm about to load mame on mine, I'll let you know how I get on
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+1 for the PS3 controller, it just works so well with the six axis software. I'm not 100% sure but I think the reason for root access is that part of the pairing process is to connect the controller to the N7 via a USB cable in order to set the Bluetooth address as required. You can also do this via a pc if you don't have an otg cable.
An XBox360 controller connected wired with an OTG cable works perfectly without apps. But I have to agree that sixaxis with a ps3 pad is perfect.
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An XBox360 controller connected wired with an OTG cable works perfectly without apps. But I have to agree that sixaxis with a ps3 pad is perfect.
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If your ps3 controller battery is flat it also works via a cable connection!
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If your ps3 controller battery is flat it also works via a cable connection!
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Yes, but your N7 still needs to be rooted and that you are running the sixaxis Bluetooth app (your device is actively charging the controller) in the background. The 360 controller is plug and play compatible.
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I'm pretty sure you don't have to be rooted to use the ps3 controller see this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb8Jg4jW9FU&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I'm pretty sure you don't have to be rooted to use the ps3 controller see this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb8Jg4jW9FU&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Holy crap,that's great. I take it all back, just tried it out perfectly. Thanks for the link.
I wish my Galaxy S2 would do that!
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I would recommend
I would recommend this: http://www.phonejoy.us/
Look at this, it's like a PS3 sixaxsis controller but a more compatible Bluetooth version.
It uses Bluez IME to work.
androidlover287 said:
I would recommend this: http://www.phonejoy.us/
Look at this, it's like a PS3 sixaxsis controller but a more compatible Bluetooth version.
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I've heard lots if good things about these, I have a couple of friends on G+ who live in the states that say they are a great investment.
These are also in the pipeline soon,they look a bit flatter and pocket friendly.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/05/nykos-playpad-and-playpad-pro-android-tablet-controllers-hands/
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I will have to try one
mr_tris said:
I've heard lots if good things about these, I have a couple of friends on G+ who live in the states that say they are a great investment.
These are also in the pipeline soon,they look a bit flatter and pocket friendly.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/05/nykos-playpad-and-playpad-pro-android-tablet-controllers-hands/
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I have 9-14 days to wait to even get my phonejoy controller, but i'll have to try this as well as soon as i get my tablet, (Hopefully Tuesday)
Thanks for the tip.
Remember you can root, but NOT install a custom recovery, meaning you can have the best of both worlds as this way you will still be able to get the OTA updates :victory:
I wanted to revisit this topic, to see if there are any new Nexus 7 (Android) / Tablet Bluetooth gamepads, I am ready to buy one.... and I am certain that some good new controllers are now on the market.
How about pc's gamepads? Does they work straight away like 360's pad?

N7 2nd gen -- controllers?

So, I sold my first gen N7 and my 2nd gen is in the mail.
My question is this: what are my options for hooking up a controller?
I have read that the Bluetooth no longer supports Wii and ps3 controllers.
What about wiring one through an otg cable? Like a 360 wired controller?
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Can you provide a source for blue tooth incompatibility? Nothing should have changed and they would be stupid to have disabled that feature. OTG should still be viable.
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S2005x said:
So, I sold my first gen N7 and my 2nd gen is in the mail.
My question is this: what are my options for hooking up a controller?
I have read that the Bluetooth no longer supports Wii and ps3 controllers.
What about wiring one through an otg cable? Like a 360 wired controller?
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You'd have better luck posting in the actual Nexus 7.2 forums at this point.
Crap, my bad. Didn't see an N7.2 forum ... Hopefully a mod will move it for me.
I don't have the source at the moment, but I read a q&a from another thread here saying Bluetooth was no longer viable after 4.3.
I tried to make a RAZR Orca (360 controller) work with otg and it wouldn't recognise it.
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This thread got moved to the N7.2 forum, but never got any replies... anyone know if the new N7.2 can hook up to controllers?
Preferably a RAZR Onza?
S2005x said:
This thread got moved to the N7.2 forum, but never got any replies... anyone know if the new N7.2 can hook up to controllers?
Preferably a RAZR Onza?
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Mine works with the PS3 controller through the sixaxis app. I don't have a wii so don't know about those.
edit -- I'm rooted too btw. I think you need to be for the sixaxis app to work anyway
edit 2 -- I just tried hooking up my wired xbox 360 controller with my OTG cable and it is picked right up automatically without any other software
PMentior said:
Mine works with the PS3 controller through the sixaxis app. I don't have a wii so don't know about those.
edit -- I'm rooted too btw. I think you need to be for the sixaxis app to work anyway
edit 2 -- I just tried hooking up my wired xbox 360 controller with my OTG cable and it is picked right up automatically without any other software
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Good to know, thank you for that info
I'm rooted, and currently downloading a ROM with GApps for it. I don't own a PS3 controller though... maybe I can find a friend that will let me borrow his to test it out...
S2005x said:
Good to know, thank you for that info
I'm rooted, and currently downloading a ROM with GApps for it. I don't own a PS3 controller though... maybe I can find a friend that will let me borrow his to test it out...
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read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2381953
I've only used PSX, PS2, and original Xbox controllers so far (yes, original Xbox, great for N64 emulation, just cut off the tip and splice a regular USB cable on) and they all worked, but the Xbox controller sadly had major input lag (like 4 full seconds).
Thank you so much for that! I'm gonna subscribe. Let me know when it can support the wiimote again and I'll buy that app too
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How did you get wired controllers to work? I have a wired 360 controller, and a PS2 controller with USB end on it.
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S2005x said:
How did you get wired controllers to work? I have a wired 360 controller, and a PS2 controller with USB end on it.
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You need an OTG adapter.
I have one...
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You might not be interested in buying another, separate, controller; but, of you don't mind, the Moga Pro controller is fantastic. It has a very premium feel to it, and very much so reminds me of a Xbox 360 controller. Its compatible with all of the major apps. Plus, the ones that it isn't compatible with, you can set up for yourself.
They also have fantastic customer support. I picked up my Flo on launch day. The Moga Pivot application wasn't running, so I emailed them. Within two days they had sent out an update and thanked me for letting them know. Also, its fully wireless. So none if that OTG stuff, and you can use it on your phone.
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Thanks for that info. Got a link where I can buy? Depends on the price I guess.
It works with Bluetooth?
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Just another confirmation that once rooted, the PS3 controller works great.
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Just another confirmation that once rooted, the PS3 controller works great.
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The OEM ps3 using Bluetooth? And with what app?
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I would recommend a PS3 controller. It has been the best controller I've ever used on Android. I have been through them all. I have a Moga Original, and its great for on the go but lacks a D-Pad. I have an Ouya controller, but it's clunky D-Pad is similar to the 360's. WiiMotes (which don't work currently) are great but lacks the button count to play anything other then NES emulators. The Moga, Ouya, 360, WiiMote, and PS3 all have good battery life. Other controllers typically suck the juice and have bad button feedback or otherwise cheaply made. Don't waste your money on anything other then the above noted.
The PS3 has a great DPad and quality. Batteries last a long time, buttons feel great, response time is flawless, connects directly to the Tablet (no dongle like 360).
The Moga is iffy. Seems to be effected with delayed response when using the Moga Pairing app, which is required for the second analog support and for launching games so they pick up on the controls. Controls aren't bad but if you play something like Mario or Sonic, you'll feel the controls are slightly "off". Still a great controller for on-the-go. I haven't tried the Moga on the new N7 yet, they may have fixed this lag.
The PS3 controller is also probably one of the cheaper controllers you can find. I picked up a White PS3 DualShock from Gamestop for $29 new. The PS3 also has the greatest amount of support. It plays reliably across all of my devices, where the others are hit and miss.
The app required is the SixAxis Pairing app from the Play Store. Some custom roms build in this driver and the controller can connect natively, but for the most part, you would use the app. Benefits of the app also include the ability to map buttons to touchscreen overlay controls for games that do not support gamepads.
player911 said:
I would recommend a PS3 controller. It has been the best controller I've ever used on Android. I have been through them all. I have a Moga Original, and its great for on the go but lacks a D-Pad. I have an Ouya controller, but it's clunky D-Pad is similar to the 360's. WiiMotes (which don't work currently) are great but lacks the button count to play anything other then NES emulators. The Moga, Ouya, 360, WiiMote, and PS3 all have good battery life. Other controllers typically suck the juice and have bad button feedback or otherwise cheaply made. Don't waste your money on anything other then the above noted.
The PS3 has a great DPad and quality. Batteries last a long time, buttons feel great, response time is flawless, connects directly to the Tablet (no dongle like 360).
The Moga is iffy. Seems to be effected with delayed response when using the Moga Pairing app, which is required for the second analog support and for launching games so they pick up on the controls. Controls aren't bad but if you play something like Mario or Sonic, you'll feel the controls are slightly "off". Still a great controller for on-the-go. I haven't tried the Moga on the new N7 yet, they may have fixed this lag.
The PS3 controller is also probably one of the cheaper controllers you can find. I picked up a White PS3 DualShock from Gamestop for $29 new. The PS3 also has the greatest amount of support. It plays reliably across all of my devices, where the others are hit and miss.
The app required is the SixAxis Pairing app from the Play Store. Some custom roms build in this driver and the controller can connect natively, but for the most part, you would use the app. Benefits of the app also include the ability to map buttons to touchscreen overlay controls for games that do not support gamepads.
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Out of curiosity, are you talking about the MOGA Pocket or the MOGA Pro? I own the latter and have never had too much trouble with the device in HIG mode (the MOGA app itself though was something of another level of horror).
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The OEM ps3 using Bluetooth? And with what app?
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Using this app: Sixaxis Controller
Note: You must be rooted and use a PC to change the pairing address of the controller to that of your Nexus 7. They provide a free PC utility to do that.

[Q] SixAxis Wireless.... HELP!!

So I am sure plenty of you guys know Sixaxis has been given a lot of us a really big problem and a lot of people are rooting (and voiding warranties) just to find out that Sixaxis doesn't pair with TN7.. Has ANYONE been able to get this to work with their TN7 wirelessly. If so please explain exactly what you had to do to achieve this. I really don't want to buy another controller and I like Sixaxis software. I have never gotten Sixaxis to work with the TN7 using Bluetooth, but I had it working with my now sold Nexus 7, although I did have some issues then.
I've gotten a dualshock 3 to work using USB/BT center Gold, an OTG cable, and a Bluetooth dongle.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXb3ejs2HcI
I do wish Wii controllers and Dualshock/Sixaxis controllers would work with the built-in blue tooth.
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Try using sixaxos enabler
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I haven't rooted note yet still doing homework on it but just plugged ps3 controller in with otg cable and played the games stated controller compatible and hey presto worked like a charm but I did use both sixaxis and sixasis enabler to get one red light on controller
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Egg on my face lol rooted note noe I can't get sixasis working lol even used sixaxis pair tool and still no joy , can anyone pls confirm does sixasis work with tegra note 7 or it doesent would love to know ?
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afaik it doesnt. Was discussed in another thread here, someone said the n7 has similar bluetooth drivers like the <insert device where sixasis doesnt work>.
alternative is 360 controller, dont know about the wireless version, but wired works perfekt.
Cheers for that m8 think will just save pennies for Bluetooth controller anyone know a good one for the note seven ?
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This was the Thread i mentioned, take a look.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2541873&page=3
Tnx m8:thumbup:
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I have a Moga Pro that pairs just fine, but that thing is prone to some serious lag sometimes. I just plug my PS3 controller in with an OTG cable and it works fine, no root or anything. It's funny, Nyko's Playpad is supposed to be the "official" controller of this thing, but I've read people having a lot of issues with those as well. I also remember seeing one random post of someone using one of the GameStop controllers with theirs, and they gave the impression that it worked fine but didn't really say so.
Thanks for your comment on sixaxis using otg cable, I have sixaxis app as I purchased for my last tablet but as mentioned here it won't work on tegra note as Bluetooth driver isn't compatible
I purchased a steel series free mobile whilst in USA but didn't get on with it so was wondering about ps3 pad via otg cable and sixaxis app - would prefer wireless but I like the pad and remapping abilities
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I have the SixAxis app, but I've never had to use it with this tablet; PS3 controllers will work through USB with no additional software required. The only need for it would be remapping, and come to think of it, I'm not sure if you can remap controls in the SixAxis app without it being connected via BT... I've never tried.
Oh, and damianiw, you might wanna check your signature... judging by the "Sent from my TegraNote-P1640" in your post, you're no longer "soon to own" one of these Welcome to the club!
Man, I'm kind of bummed that I got this nice tablet with the features I wanted but have run smack into a Bluetooth comparability wall. I can't synch Wii or Wii U Pro controllers to it. To get PS3 controllers to work I have to use an app, an adapter, and an OTG cable, which means I can't game and charge.
Some of the most fun I had with my Acer A500 was hooking it up to HDMI out, plugging in the charger, synching up some Wii remotes with classic controllers and playing through Seiken Densetsu 3 with my friends. I was hoping to be able to replicate that with a smaller more powerful tablet but looks like that can't happen for a while if at all.
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you need to use the Nyko Playpad pro, they work perfectly over bluetooth and are endorsed by Nvidia for use on both the Tegra Note 7 and Nvidia Shield - (both packing Tegra 4's).
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nyko-Playpad-Pro-Android-Bluetooth/dp/B0092ZEINO
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you need to use the Nyko Playpad pro, they work perfectly over bluetooth and are endorsed by Nvidia for use on both the Tegra Note 7 and Nvidia Shield - (both packing Tegra 4's).
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I just received my PlayPad Pro today and I've got to say I'm pretty disappointed, especially after reading a few decent reviews. There are very noticeable deadzones on the sticks, the shoulder buttons are spongy and uncomfortable to use which is annoying as they are used more in games than the better quality triggers.
Maybe I've been spoilt, having used the SixAxis app on my last tablet which was just awesome. It's a real shame we can't get that working with the PS3 pad on the TN7, as that is far far superior to this PlayPad Pro.

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