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Is Anyone else experiencing lagg from Super D 1.9.3?

When I first rooted my G1 I rooted to Super D 1.9.2 and thats when I realized my G1 still has balls. Now ever since I updated to 1.9.3 it is very slow and laggy. I even wiped and flashed about three times; once a direct update from 1.9.2, once a full wipe the flashed from sd card with redownloaded ROM, and once a flash without wiping from 1.9.2.
Also everytime I use nandroid or backup for root users my G1 goes into bootloop.

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have you tried the version with WG-beta 3 kernal yet?
Do you have any swap or cc enabled? If so, how much of either and/or both? Have you tried different settings? What about turning both off?(thats the best in my opinion)
Are you using jit Hack? Correctly installed? (hence all the threads and post going around with everybody's method of using it, and roms with it packaged,lol)--EDIT: also found to be unstable and a ram hog-Cyan
Is home screen in memory or out? (better out if you don't use a lot of widgets)
You wiped 3 times huh?, Did you full or half a** wipe?(meaning data,dalv,ext,battery and rotate settings-thats full wipe) well have you also repaired ext?, fixed permissions?, re-partitioned?, re-flashed 1.6 base?(helps, sometimes.)
Did you flash any 3rd party packaged or compiled zips over it? such as boot.imgs, themes, launchers and stuff like that? (if so, that could be the problem)
Did you reboot at least once after a fresh install? if not, Please do. Usually by second or third boot, everything is running smooth.
How many apps you got? Have you installed any new ones since the lagging started to happen? (if so, get rid of them, or re-install them, that should clear any bad data and cache carried along with it)
Have you tried customizing yourself? Some folks like to push the old contact apk because the newer versions have too many features, causing slow downs
Have you un-installed any eclair or useless system apps?
Are you killing unwanted background processes properly?
ok now....before you attempt to answer any of these questions with a reply or quote...STOP I don't want or expect a response, these questions are what you should be asking yourself, and sometimes that can help you solve your own problems, by taking all of these concepts into consideration, and re-evaluating them for different results.
all in all, the most important question you should ask yourself, DID YOU SEND A DETAILED LOGCAT TO THE DEVELOPER HIMSELF (BEN) BEFORE POSTING THIS THREAD COMPLAINING ABOUT HIS WORK?
if not, then Im sure you will figure out what to do from here , good day sir.

Thanks for your time I guess its te for me to get working.
I just remembered that everytime I use backup for root useres it kills my phone and shuts it off then it becomes slow.

I tried out Super D w/ wg-kernel 2 days ago and found it pretty laggy. For some reason installing apps would take forever and my navigation app wouldn't install at all.

1337rolla said:
I tried out Super D w/ wg-kernel 2 days ago and found it pretty laggy. For some reason installing apps would take forever and my navigation app wouldn't install at all.
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what do you use to install your apps? the market or a backup tool?

1337rolla said:
I tried out Super D w/ wg-kernel 2 days ago and found it pretty laggy. For some reason installing apps would take forever and my navigation app wouldn't install at all.
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I have that problem too.

I install apps with astro and adb. Both are equally slow because I'm pretty sure it is using the sd card only and avoiding using internal memory at all costs... bit too aggressive of a setup. I think my navigation app failed to install correctly because some part of the installer was time sensitive and writing to the sd card went over the clock limit

I've had ****ty market performance in every ROM I've used. Market in SuperD w/ WG Kernel behaves exactly the same for me. Installing using ASTRO works excellent for me, however. No CC/Swap. JIT enabled.

yeah I got astro too...never tried installing system apps with it though....I mostly use root explorer, but hey, either way...tomato - tomatto....all the same.

I too found Super D 1.9.3 runs really laggy on my G1. I tried all sorts of compcache settings (including off) and started using Adv Task Manager to end non-required apps regularly but it made no difference
Strangely, I then flashed it to my Magic and found it's alot smoother. Maybe not as fast as Dwang but still pretty smooth. Wes Garner reckons the only thing which will slow down a 32B G1 compared to a 32B Magic is Apps2SD.
I did not wipe battery and rotate info on either phone, I didn't think that would cause any problems, though the G1 has had a longer life so perhaps that's the issue.

Super Jamie said:
I too found Super D 1.9.3 runs really laggy on my G1. I tried all sorts of compcache settings (including off) and started using Adv Task Manager to end non-required apps regularly but it made no difference
Strangely, I then flashed it to my Magic and found it's alot smoother. Maybe not as fast as Dwang but still pretty smooth. Wes Garner reckons the only thing which will slow down a 32B G1 compared to a 32B Magic is Apps2SD.
I did not wipe battery and rotate info on either phone, I didn't think that would cause any problems, though the G1 has had a longer life so perhaps that's the issue.
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always wipe battery and rotate setting when going to a different rom, you don't have to do it if you are updating, or just flashing over the current rom, but if you are going to a whole new build, meaning different kernel or base like from 1.6 to 2.1 for example, wipe the battery and rotate settings.

Klyentel said:
always wipe battery and rotate setting when going to a different rom, you don't have to do it if you are updating, or just flashing over the current rom, but if you are going to a whole new build, meaning different kernel or base like from 1.6 to 2.1 for example, wipe the battery and rotate settings.
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Cool, thanks for the tip

do you got on swap or compcache???? i dont hav on either and my fone is fast as hell

Just want my 32B to be as fast as possible. What to do?

So, I'm running Cyanogenmod 4.2.15.1 but I always think it's a bit slow. Maybe it's all the widgets, installed apps or often having mp3's playing in the background but I can't help thinking that the original ROM was much faster.
What can I do to improve speed?
I'm running TasKiller but that alone doesn't really speed things up enough.
For music, I'm using Meridian player, but perhaps there's a faster player out there?
Is it worth installing any of the 2.1 ROMs or should I wait for the official release or is that even likely to be slower than Cyanogenmod?

A couple of things you can do. You can use an application called setCPU which is for root users. It allows you to modify how the phone is run e.g. it can run from 128MHz to 528MHz depending on your preference. 528 will give you the highest performance. There is a min and max for them, and I have 384 to 528 usually.
Instead of taskiller, I use advanced task manager. Kill some processes as well. I like it better at least.
My recommendation is use superD or FastTest. They are, in my opinion, the fastest ROMs out there. A lot of Eclair ROMs are stable as well, but not as fast as the donut ROMs.

Thanks.
I've always thought that setCPU didn't make a difference, cause it's Magic is already running at max CPU in most ROMs. If not, how come it's mentioned so rarely around here? Surely it should be one of the most popular apps?
I've never heard of Super D or FastTest til you mentioned them. Might be worth a shot, although I'll have to admit I'd prefer not changing ROM all the time. When I first got the phone I tried loads of Sense ROMs but they all seemed either unstable or slow, or both. I think I'll read up a bit more on SuperD before having a go.

dont really have any other info on your setup except its a 32B....why not give us some more info in your signature, like:
what size and class SD card you have
whether you have swap enabled
whether you have compcache enabled
whether your sdcard is partitioned, and how
IMHO u dont need setcpu, its already written in to CM for the cpu to be 528-384
you could try:
JIT http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=637419
the swap userinit.sh http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5342507&postcount=577
and the lowmemory killer minfree approach (which i prefer instead of "task-killers" which are just another app running) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=622666
and of course, the all important 10 MB RAM Hack http://www.absolutelyandroid.com/10mb-ram-hack-for-cyanogenmod-version-4-2-15/
CM should be nice and fast for you on a 32B, best one I've found so far

"what size and class SD card you have
whether you have swap enabled
whether you have compcache enabled
whether your sdcard is partitioned, and how"
SD card is class 4, 8 GB I think.
Yes, swap enabled. Can't remember the exact details regarding how the SD is partioned. Anyway to check that?
Don't think I've got compcache enabled. As a matter of fact, I've never heard that term before.
That 10 MB hack sounds interesting. I'll give that a shot.

I actually use setCPU profiles to save battery as well. When the screen is turned off, I have it set for almost minimum.
SuperD and FastTest have 10MB RAM hack versions so you don't need to install it on your own I don't thnk JIT hack is necessary for these ROMs anyways.

Armadillo123 said:
So, I'm running Cyanogenmod 4.2.15.1 but I always think it's a bit slow. Maybe it's all the widgets, installed apps or often having mp3's playing in the background but I can't help thinking that the original ROM was much faster.
What can I do to improve speed?
I'm running TasKiller but that alone doesn't really speed things up enough.
For music, I'm using Meridian player, but perhaps there's a faster player out there?
Is it worth installing any of the 2.1 ROMs or should I wait for the official release or is that even likely to be slower than Cyanogenmod?
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I got this just do as I do on my magic
Cyanogen is good for tons of features & I respect Steve (the ROM developer) for the ROM but for full speed & stability on a 32B Magic I suggest going by my signature as a guide.
I'm using Meridian player also & find it the best but Mixzing or Tunewiki is faster Mixzing has a little more then Tunewiki though but Meridian player is the best overall for the features.
OK in regards to ROMS, flash a new one all this talk of setcpu & stuff merely provides a quick fix but doesn't help in the long run (at least in my experience on a 32B Magic).
In fact here...
Download Dwang 1.17.1 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=567023
Add style & download Pays Black Elegance Theme 1.1 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=608412
Backup your apps & stuff & do a nandroid just to be safe.
Now proceed to enter recovery like your about to flash a ROM (as soon you will be ) wipe all that can be wiped (use Amon_RA Recovery for that) & flash Dwang like you did Cyanogen
Load it up (first start up is the longest), set up & when you hit the home screen power off your Magic & then switch it on into recovery like you are gonna flash a ROM (there it is again).
Flash Pays Black Elegance 1.1 Theme (NO WIPE!!) just flash over Dwang once that is done reboot & then try it for a week & report back here with your verdict
This is what I'm using & have been for over 2months now & I don't see me switching anytime soon as I can't find anything that is éclair that is like this ROM.
YES its 1.6 but it is super sweet for a 1.6 & personally for me it beats those 2.1 ROMs (which are good don't get me wrong but they ain't no Dwang)
ROM Stats
121 Apps installed
15-25sec wait on home screen load at times but not always & that is only cause I use like 12 widgets & filled 4 of the 5 screens with icons to applications.
10MB Hack is on this so 3D Games are a little laggy otherwise overall the best ROM i have used & only 1 random reboot but I kinda caused that running a whole heap of stuff like 30 processes at once haha.
Anyway let me know your verdict I hope my tip helps!

From my experience, super d 1.10.2 was, by far the fastest rom i've ever, used i havent messed with swap or compcache, but super d truly gave me that wow factor when it came to my phone, only downside is that it sorta ate my battery real quick, and i changed back to 1.9.3 wesgarner kernel, which is pretty quick too ...

Use Dwang 1.17.1, buy CacheMate from Market and clear your cache weekly.
This is the fastest I can get my 32B to run. I've tried Super D and CM, they are slower in my opinion. Dwang includes 32Mb compcache by default which seems to be the sweet spot. I've never played around with swap on SD card.
I use the default music player with Pure Music Widget. I used to use some other music player with "genius-like" functionality and all that rubbish but found it to be too slow for my liking.
Make sure you do the build.prop edits for HSPA as per this thread.

[Q] Completed my first ever root + lagfix; have some questions!

After having the Vibrant for a few weeks I simply got fed up with the sluggish UI always lagging, having hiccups and all the latter. I know the phone is better than this (how can my old MyTouch Slide be performing way better?) so I went ahead and rooted.
Before this I would come on XDA and be overwhelmed by the development forums. The terms were so foreign like it's own language. Now I'm getting used to it and can root a Vibrant in under a minute. Very simple procedure.
My first real problem came with the lagfix. At first I could not get RyanZA's fix to work. I thought maybe I did something wrong or my device was faulty. So I tried the update.zip method and it didn't work either. I reset my phone to factory settings, re-rooted, and would come back to the lagfix later.
I came back to the forums today and decided I would try the lagfix again. This time I was more calm and was less overwhelmed thank god. The reason it didn't work the first time was because I didn't have the drivers installed. I went ahead and installed those, as well as Kies (this isn't needed for the lagfix though). After installing the drivers the script worked perfectly. However the script only worked if the phone wasn't mounted, if it was the script would not work, kinda odd but its alright with me lol.
I quickly rebooted and ran quadrant, scored a 2140 baby! Whoooo. There is almost no lag on my phone now. This was my biggest concern was how the phone was so sluggish, now everything is instant and snappy. Really happy with the development of this thing. I feel accomplished now haha.
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Any how, I'm still very new to the development scene and have some questions.
What is a kernel? How is it different from a rom? Is it good to overclock?
What is ODIN and what does it do? What is ADB? Someone told me to input something in ADB but I don't know what it is.
Also how can you overclock a phone to run at 1.2ghz if the hardware was designed at 1ghz? Can't this make the phone blow up? (no sarcasm)
Now that I've rooted now do I remove the bloatware on the phone? I don't want to install any roms yet until cyanogen or another rom comes out that is easier to install and less harmful to the phone.
Thanks in advance!

Arcadia310 said:
I came back to the forums today and decided I would try the lagfix again. This time I was more calm and was less overwhelmed thank god. The reason it didn't work the first time was because I didn't have the drivers installed. I went ahead and installed those, as well as Kies (this isn't needed for the lagfix though). After installing the drivers the script worked perfectly. However the script only worked if the phone wasn't mounted, if it was the script would not work, kinda odd but its alright with me lol.
It's not odd at all that the fix doesn't work if the memory is mounted. Think of the memory as a cd, it cannot be accessible to 2 machines at the same time. If the memory is mounted/accessible on your pc, that means the phone itself cannot access it and the fix uses that memory so it makes perfect sense for it to be NOT mounted.
I quickly rebooted and ran quadrant, scored a 2140 baby! Whoooo. There is almost no lag on my phone now. This was my biggest concern was how the phone was so sluggish, now everything is instant and snappy. Really happy with the development of this thing. I feel accomplished now haha.
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Any how, I'm still very new to the development scene and have some questions.
What is a kernel? How is it different from a rom? Is it good to overclock?
A kernel is the core of the OS, it is the main part. Overclocking should not be a problem if you run tests(setcpu burnin or something else)to make sure the phone does not freeze.
What is ODIN and what does it do? What is ADB? Someone told me to input something in ADB but I don't know what it is.
ODIN is a software written by samsung that is used to reflash the firmware/ROM on the phone.
ADB(Android developer bridge)is basically a program which let's you copy and retrieve software onto your phone using the CLI, also it let's you run cli commands on the phone from your computer(much more convenient). ADB is part of the google developers package which can be downloaded from Google fro free.
Also how can you overclock a phone to run at 1.2ghz if the hardware was designed at 1ghz? Can't this make the phone blow up? (no sarcasm)
The phone will not blow up, if the overclocking frequency is higher then what the phone can handle 99 out of 100 times it will just freeze with no permanent damage. A phone's enemy is high heat, not overclocking, eventhough some overclocking causes temperatures to increase.
Now that I've rooted now do I remove the bloatware on the phone? I don't want to install any roms yet until cyanogen or another rom comes out that is easier to install and less harmful to the phone.
Removing bloatware can be done by installing "ASTRO" from the market which will let you uninstall system apps. Some are easy to recognize and some are not. If you are not sure what an app is/does do not remove it.
Thanks in advance!
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WTF....text inside quotes doesn't count

Read the stickied post. 90% of the questions you're asking are answered there.

Calcvictim said:
WTF....text inside quotes doesn't count
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If ODIN was created by samsung why is it so hard to connect it to your phone?

Calcvictim said:
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I downloaded Astro. For some reason I can't even find the .apk file to uninstall the Sims. I tried to uninstall apps like Kindle and Slacker and it wouldn't let me. I thought having superuser permissions would allow me to remove any app from the phone?

Use titanium back up to remove those apps.
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robavila721 said:
Use titanium back up to remove those apps.
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Thanks! That app worked! I removed a crap ton of bloatware. Only problem now is that I get a force close error when the phone boots up from an app I removed, how do I regulate which apps open when the phone is turned on?
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[Q] "smd_tty" causing cpu overload - any fixes?

I am using hastrain 7.7 on the phireMOD_SkinnyEVO_v1.6 build. I have been having issues with the build just hanging. I searched recently to see if there was a way to find out what was causing the phone to just freeze. I found an app called OSmonitor that lets you see into what processes are taking up most of your cpu. It is supposed to let you kill the greedy ones.
To make a long story short I found out that smd_tty is taking up lite 85-90% of the cpu on top of the ohter standard processes. This is BEFORE I can even run an app or connect to the internet. its killing my battery and making it virtually impossible to run any other programs. To boot, OSmonitor does not allow me to kill it so I have to start the phone up all over again.
Does anyone know how to get around this? is there a different kernel, a script I can insert or something? If I cold just kill it and have it restart properly I would settle for that but i can't at the moment. I really like the why i have my phone set up but this is getting tiring. Thank you in advance.

LeTama is looking in to it, but there is no fix, other than not using data, yet.

so this is primarily a wrapper issue? i am asking because i am having a high cpu drain/system lock up even if i am not using data. for example, flipping through larhe pic galleries, using an app installer (which populates the apps and takes time to do so) etc... I did not know these processes were dependent on the wrapper. thanks in advance.

I have the exact same problem with all new roms I have tried. The only relatively new rom I found to not suffer from this is Core Droid 0.7.
I tried 0.8 but it had that problem so sticking with 0.7 for now. looks like between 0.7 and 0.8 Core Droid moved from letama's 0.2 to 0.4, so this might be the reason. Would be interesting to try Core Droid 0.8 with letama's 0.2, but I'm not sure how to do that
Anyways, you may want to try Core Droid 0.7. Works really great for me.

I have this problem too, when i'm using launcher pro and default launcher, when i turn back to sence it seems better

troubleshooting a slow G1

I rooted my phone a few months back and it's slow switching between a few screens, mostly from calling or web browsing back to home. Painfully slow, sometimes up to a minute. It's always been like this and I just want to know if there's steps I can take to speed it up or if it's just a memory problem. I used Cyanogen 6.1 to upgrade to android 2.2.1
Baseband62.505.20.17u_2.22.19.26I
Kernel 2.6.35-9cyanogenmod [email protected]#2
Build number - FRG83

G1's are just slow!
Try keeping it lite. Uninstalling apps, keeping the essential ones, app2sd?
Don't have loads of widgets on your homescreen.
Task manager, i recommend ATK.
Hope this helps.

chitin said:
I rooted my phone a few months back and it's slow switching between a few screens, mostly from calling or web browsing back to home. Painfully slow, sometimes up to a minute. It's always been like this and I just want to know if there's steps I can take to speed it up or if it's just a memory problem. I used Cyanogen 6.1 to upgrade to android 2.2.1
Baseband62.505.20.17u_2.22.19.26I
Kernel 2.6.35-9cyanogenmod [email protected]#2
Build number - FRG83
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If you are up to it, flash different ROM. There are ROM out there that is lightweight and fast. My personal favorites is SuperAosp. Currently they just released SuperAosp 6.0 that is fast and also best on bettery life.

flyboyovyick said:
G1's are just slow!
Try keeping it lite. Uninstalling apps, keeping the essential ones, app2sd?
Don't have loads of widgets on your homescreen.
Task manager, i recommend ATK.
Hope this helps.
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Well, it's slow compared to what's out there, but it isn't "one minute to switch apps" slow for me... without a task manager or auto-killer. Every time I wipe I install nine apps from Market, and ten from SD card. They may sit back and be inactive if I've opened them, but they don't just all run at once and slow down to "one minute each switch"...
I'd agree with the widgets on homescreen though. I tend to avoid them out of preference, but they 'can' eat memory faster than we can down a beer. I don't have anything locked in memory except Messaging. Depending on what I'm switching from, it doesn't usually take that long to switch. If it's something like Skyfire -then no matter what I'm doing, the G1 just dies and Skyfire force closes pretty quickly. It just cannot handle such a memory hog. If I play SNesoid, I never see a force close and it takes seconds to switch. I don't fully understand it, but consider how resource heavy your apps are.

Seems to me you have swap enabled and now it's swapping ...
Try to run without swap / compcache and see if this helps.
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AndDiSa said:
Seems to me you have swap enabled and now it's swapping ...
Try to run without swap / compcache and see if this helps.
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Reducing the widgets helped a lot. It's very usable now until I need to upgrade to 4G. Thanks for the recommendation. What is swap enabled?

Might I recommend trying a different ROM? On my Samsung Vibrant, I had stock TouchWiz and it went slow as hell, I tried another custom ROM and it works great. Much much MUCH faster, trust me get a different ROM, ask around for the best most light weight one, Super AOSP w what someone recommended here? Try that.
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Def check froyobylazlo 5.2 you'll need the new radio/spl hack by ezterry but its soo worth it. Auto memory manager helps out greatly too cuz its based off androids internal tasker instead of just another program made from someone else. With that app your g1 will fly even on default settings, on extreme....lol thank me later
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My G1 got slower recently, but not one minute slower. I've been really good about not installing anything except I configured titanium backup to run automatically, but the home screen has been crashing a lot too for some reason.
All I did was create three shortcuts for calling and texting someone. Those aren't the same as widgets are they?