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HTC HD2 media player track order sd card probs

Hi. I'm new to this so apologies if this problem has already been answered. I've bought and installed a 16GB sd card in my HD2 and have transferred a fair bit of music to listen to. However media player is playing albums in an incorrect order (seemingly random, not alphabetical). When I transfer an album from the sd card to the 'my music' folder on the device, it plays in the right order! I've tried neptune which plays in the correct order but that won't respond to my bluetooth headset (when I press play, it automatically uses media player). Now when I copied and pasted an album onto my device which was also on the sd card, media player displayed the tracks twice in the correct order 1-15 consecutively (1-15, then 1-15 again). I deleted the device version and the sd card version went back to the seemingly random order. Can anyone solve this irritating problem?

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Could I just add that when I say the problem is with windows media player I am reffering to the music player within HTC sense. Please help!

I have the same issue, very irritating , could anybody help please??

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Right, until I can better this I'm gonna cut and paste the album I want to listen to from the sd card onto the device.

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No, that doesn't work

Have the same problem with the HTC music application and Windows Media Player. Pocket Player and Pocket Tunes don't have this problem.

A solution that works!
Right, it's like this. Got to settings>personalize>home screen tabs and uncheck 'music'. Open 'Windows media player' either by playing a song off your music folder or adding a quick link to it. Then click 'library' and get it to scan for al your files. Now use windows media player as your player not HTC sense and it will all be fine. Thank goodness!

is there the same resolution for the HTC player?
Thanks mate. Now I can see it works fine on the Windows media player. but thats a pain to use with those annoying menus. I like the HTC player as its very much like the iphone player & its easy to use. Has anyone found the fix for the HTC player or is there another good working player thats similar to the iphone player.
Cheers
Shala

Hasn't anyone found a solution to this silly problem yet?
When you transfer music to the device, it apparently removes any existing track order, yet not every album is out of order when I play it on the HD2! It makes no sense at all.
Using WMP is no solution, I'd rather play the music without order or sit for several hours making playlists for every album.
EDIT: Googling the problem, I found a thread about a problem like this for the HTC Touch Pro, where a solution was proposed:
Found a solution for you...
you will need a registry editor for your HTC Touch Pro. I recommend the PHM registry editor (google it).
Locate the following key. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\HTCAlbum\Ignored and modify the key Music Gizmo1 to the path you want the music file to be stored. I created a folder on the SD card named MUSIC and updated the path to \Storage Card\Music then rebooted the phone and all is well. Now I can turn off my phone, pop in the SD card and copy all my tunes over and bam.. I have all my songs at my finger tips. I hope this helps
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I'll be trying it later today.

hi,
if this does not work, i can share my application. It scans your music folder and generates playlists in the correct order.
it uses mp3 and wma tags for cd and track sequence. it works well for me but sometimes you need to clean up tags on desktop before copying music.
I have a 16 gb card as well and all my albums are ordered correctly using playlists instead.
I am sure using media monkey to synch gives you an option to push playlists as well and should give desured results.
Overlord Yuri said:
Hasn't anyone found a solution to this silly problem yet?
When you transfer music to the device, it apparently removes any existing track order, yet not every album is out of order when I play it on the HD2! It makes no sense at all.
Using WMP is no solution, I'd rather play the music without order or sit for several hours making playlists for every album.
EDIT: Googling the problem, I found a thread about a problem like this for the HTC Touch Pro, where a solution was proposed:
I'll be trying it later today.
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Damn, it didn't work. Quite disappointing.
Now how about this app that you mentioned?
And I can't find such a function in Media Monkey, any ideas?

Regarding media monkey please have a look at here:
http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f41/tutorial-syncing-music-and-playlists-3761/
You will need to connect the device in usb disk mode and then you can synchronise playlists when uploading tracks.
I will upload the application later on today or earlier tomorrow morning. I would however recommend the option above first as the application I have is picky on the tags and it expects track numbers and disc numbers to be set correctly in metadata.

sproxy said:
the application I have is picky on the tags and it expects track numbers and disc numbers to be set correctly in metadata.
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They are. I'm also picky.
But yeah, the Media Monkey solution does sound smoother, I will try it out.
Thanks.

Hi again,
I have attached the files to this post. I still think, if Media Monkey option works for you thats the way to go. But this little tool helped me with the track order issues I had.
If your files are not in \Storage Card\music folder, you will need to set the location using the botton next to the text box.
Then you need to point the location to save the playlists. For me "\storage card\playlists" worked with every version of manila I used (Polaris, Diamond, HD, HD2)
It only supports mp3 and wma so there isnt much point to add more extensions, however you can remove one to exclude files of that extension.
Once all set up, you need to chose file - > Create playlists and application will scan your files and save the playlists in desired location.
I am using it with 16GB card and on Hd2 its pretty fast.
Here are some limitations:
1 - Extra information is created in the palylist file but still, when you select the playlist in manila player, it does not show fields like artist.
2 - Although some tags are valid, they cause errors in the application. I have some very old track I converted from CD's records mid/late 90s and if I see the issue on the mobile, I just run an application like Musicbrainz Picard to reftesh the tags and it all working again.
3 - If you have multi cd albums and disc numbers are not tagged, the track order may not be correct.
I always use usb mode to copy tracks and for me this tool works good enough to create the playlists the way I want to listen.
Hope it helps someone.

Simple Fix that worked for me
I to had the same problem with CD coming up in the wrong order in the player in HTC sense. When I checked what CD's were in the wrong order I noticed that they were all ones I had purchased off itunes and that the track information wasn't being picked up by my windows desktop. So i converted all my itunes music to MP3s using real player converter and now all of my library is in the correct order.

Hello,
I have the same problem. However, the tags are properly showing in all of these software :
MusicBrainz Picard
Windows Media Player
Windows 7 properties
So the track numbers seem to be correctly assigned. But still, the album tracks don't appear in the correct order for several albums in the HTC audio software.
The playlist utility keeps crashing on me, too.
By the way the HTC support regarding this issue is *terrible*, they keep telling me that the player sorts the music by "last time you played it". Nope. It doesn't. If so, when I play a single track, it would either pop at first place in the album or last place, depending on what they meant in their ballistic explanation (1 sentence). It, obviously, doesn't, and a player acting like that would be the stupidest music player in the world.
Does anyone have a solution ?
Did the "MediaMonkey" solution work,Overlord Yuri ?
Thanks in advance for any anwsers,
Regards

IcePanther said:
Did the "MediaMonkey" solution work,Overlord Yuri ?
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I barely tried and didn't have any luck. Since then I've given up..

Oh, okay.
Thank you for your input, anyway.
This thing with the HTC support is starting to get on my nerves, especially how they still try to convince me that the problem will go away if I hard reset the phone (nope, done two times already due to FixOperaFlash ruining my config, and still the music player doesn't work)...

I have figured a work around to the track order problem.
Download mp3tag you can find it on download.com or just google it.
I opend up all my music and looked at the albums that were out of order.
They seemed fine. I just right click on the track and saved the tag. I though why not nothing else seems to work.
I resynced the album and it was in order!
I guess try it out and see if it works.

S**t man , it worked !
HUGE thanks to you !
By the way I just opened the whole library (which was already on the phone), selected all, and clicked on save so it refreshed all tags. And after deleting /Application Data/HTC/Audio Manager/AudioManager_eng.vol so it regenerates the library, it worked like a charm.

Best way to copy music to phone

Does anyone have any suggested techniques for copying MP3 or WMA files to the phone (SD or Internal memory)?
What I've discovered is that synching with Media Player will transfer over these hidden files (album art, desktop.ini, and folder.jpg). These hidden files seem to mess with the way the Sense music player is picking up the music and what ends up happening is that in the music players details view, it does indeed break up the artists and the albums etc. HOWEVER, in the default view (the one that shows the album covers) it doesn't know what to do and only shows you the album cover of the particular album you are listening too. There's no way to get to the other album without going into the details menu and selecting it from there.
Whew - SO, all that being said; what I found is that if I delete the album art, desktop.ini and folder.jpg files BEFORE manually dragging and dropping the music over to the phone it seems to resolve the problem.
So is there a more streamlined approach to doing this?

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yatman60 said:
Does anyone have any suggested techniques for copying MP3 or WMA files to the phone (SD or Internal memory)?
What I've discovered is that synching with Media Player will transfer over these hidden files (album art, desktop.ini, and folder.jpg). These hidden files seem to mess with the way the Sense music player is picking up the music and what ends up happening is that in the music players details view, it does indeed break up the artists and the albums etc. HOWEVER, in the default view (the one that shows the album covers) it doesn't know what to do and only shows you the album cover of the particular album you are listening too. There's no way to get to the other album without going into the details menu and selecting it from there.
Whew - SO, all that being said; what I found is that if I delete the album art, desktop.ini and folder.jpg files BEFORE manually dragging and dropping the music over to the phone it seems to resolve the problem.
So is there a more streamlined approach to doing this?
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Put your INC in DISK DRIVE mode and copy your files to the SD card using Windows Explorer. You can also take out the SD card, put it in a reader, plug that into your PC's card reader, and put the files there via Windows Explorer.
Of course, all this presupposes that your MP3 files are correct (e.g., their ID3 tags are correct; and the album art was already integrated).

I use Tunesync, there're also isyncr, doubletwist, websharing....
The thing I like about these sync software is that they put your music in a playlist, which all the players can see.
First thing I would do is ditch the default android player though and stay away from Music PlayerPro too (just a skinned default player-same options same problems).
I am using bTunes, I think it's already abandon by the developer, but since it works and I already paid for it so might as well.
I recommend Mort Player if you don't look at it too much, Man!..that UI is just plain Ugly.

DoubleTwist is great. It also syncs your videos as well. Best part is it only syncs what you want. You create playlists and it syncs based on their contents
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Thanks...
Thanks for the info everyone. I guess the bottom line is that music software on Android is still in infancy stages with a lot of options but nothing that really just stands out. I hate to admit it but looks like Apple has a (+) in this department for now. My Incredible is a filler phone to hold me over until with WINMO7 stuff starts to hit Verizon so just looking for the best combinations of software on this thing.
I'm totally new to Android but I would have thought that the folks over at Google would have taken the media experience a little more seriously and spent some time on those aspects out of the box.

yatman60 said:
Thanks for the info everyone. I guess the bottom line is that music software on Android is still in infancy stages with a lot of options but nothing that really just stands out. I hate to admit it but looks like Apple has a (+) in this department for now. My Incredible is a filler phone to hold me over until with WINMO7 stuff starts to hit Verizon so just looking for the best combinations of software on this thing.
I'm totally new to Android but I would have thought that the folks over at Google would have taken the media experience a little more seriously and spent some time on those aspects out of the box.
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Google was doing fine, 2.1 was solid. It uses up battery like there's no tomorrow, but solid.
2.2 seem like it's coded by 5 year olds... in Mongolia...using Vtech's Vsmile system....during recess. Maybe that's why the battery last longer, nothing works. Could be a way to make us pay for third-party apps (free enterprise at work).

Bus, now that's just plan 'ol funny. Educational (for me) at the same time.

I use the free version of Media Monkey on my Win XP desktop and Meridian on my Dinc. Then I sync playlists (like I used to on my iPhone 3G). Works like a champ.

The iPhone is far superior in the music catagory (dsp, organization, genius) but u have to keep inmind it stemed from an ipod. That said the closest ive come to it is boomboxoid but its terribly slow and often unresponsive. Which is why i primarily use pandora now...an ipod like music player is the app i want most!
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gimini said:
The iPhone is far superior in the music catagory (dsp, organization, genius) but u have to keep inmind it stemed from an ipod. That said the closest ive come to it is boomboxoid but its terribly slow and often unresponsive. Which is why i primarily use pandora now...an ipod like music player is the app i want most!
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I've mentioned bTunes above. It's the exact replica of the iPhone/iPod player.

Unknown Artist Problem

Just got my SGS2. Fired up iSyncr and iTunes and synced about 1600 songs to my new phone.
Media Scan then completed
I fired up powerAMP and PlayerPro and stock music player.
ALL of them showed 408 songs as unknown artist.
Yet on my Motorola Defy and in iTunes all the artists are perfect. I have formatted the sd card and resynced the music still no good.
Anyone else experienced this problem?

Yes, though I used TuneSync to move them over. I just removed album art from one album and had iTunes reload it automatically. Then I sync'ed again, now the music shows up. All of it, even the stuff that I didn't touch. Weird. (XWKE7, rooted)

How do you sync iTunes with this phone?
I haven't got the phone yet but it would be good to know

programs on the phone called isyncr or tune sync will do it.
though any m4a/acc music wont show artist names correctly.

Does it come pre installed?

no, they can be purchased from the market.

I'd suggest giving iTunes away, only gives you headaches if you aren't an iOS user. Better to have a properly curated tag collection...

NZtechfreak said:
I'd suggest giving iTunes away, only gives you headaches if you aren't an iOS user. Better to have a properly curated tag collection...
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itunes isnt a problem for me. in fact i love it. isyncr has always been brilliant at keeping my android and itunes libraries in sync. Its just this sgs bug that is causing trouble. Hope samsung fixes it soon.

Same here, NickChaplin. TuneSync worked flawlessly on Cyanogenmod.

The same here, all the songs i bought from iTunes my SGSII won't recognize the artist name.... On my Desire it works perfect.

Luinwethion said:
The same here, all the songs i bought from iTunes my SGSII won't recognize the artist name.... On my Desire it works perfect.
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i converted all mine to mp3. No problems any more.

NickChaplin said:
i converted all mine to mp3. No problems any more.
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What'd you use to convert your music?
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brandenk0 said:
What'd you use to convert your music?
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iTunes
less than 10 characters

poweramp solves all problems. Better than any stock music player.

intruda119 said:
poweramp solves all problems. Better than any stock music player.
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nope, poweramp, player pro, winamp, double twist AND stock media player ALL have the same problem.
Thats because its a problem with the way the media scanner reads the ID3 tag of the m4a file and then adds it to the android music library that ALL the above media players read from.

What? I had the same issue with my vibrant. Poweramp automatically fetches album covers. Even random mixtape songs.
I agree it should work by default. But its hit or miss with devices. Poweramp solves this problem by fetching the album covers.
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nope, poweramp, player pro, winamp, double twist AND stock media player ALL have the same problem.
Thats because its a problem with the way the media scanner reads the ID3 tag of the m4a file and then adds it to the android music library that ALL the above media players read from.
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intruda119 said:
What? I had the same issue with my vibrant. Poweramp automatically fetches album covers. Even random mixtape songs.
I agree it should work by default. But its hit or miss with devices. Poweramp solves this problem by fetching the album covers.
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sorry, all my music already has album art.

Try MediaFix from the Market.

Try MIUI Music APK. That always popped out artist info, lyrics, CD art, and everything else automatically for me. Well, 90% of the time at least.

There is a bug in Android's media indexing & storage service. Sometimes it doesn't get the artist. Some apps like Mediafix or TuneSync index the music themselves and put the correct artist in the service's database. Until the bug is fixed, the only way to solve the problem is to either use players that don't rely on the service or to fix database yourself with the appropriate applications. MIUI's player will only work better if it doesn't rely on Android's internal indexing. I'm pretty sure it does rely on it.

[Q] Music Artist Info

Iam using the stock google music app and I synced my music with Windows Media Player 12 from my Windows 7 laptop. I have all my Album info but no Artist info. I've search for a way to get the info and I have removed all my music and resynced. Is there an app that can help or did I do something wrong when I synced my music. Thanks for the help.

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Iam using the stock google music app and I synced my music with Windows Media Player 12 from my Windows 7 laptop. I have all my Album info but no Artist info. I've search for a way to get the info and I have removed all my music and resynced. Is there an app that can help or did I do something wrong when I synced my music. Thanks for the help.
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I haven't used WMP in a long time but I'm guessing when you say sync, you actually hooked up the tab to you laptop and than synced within WMP?
If so, than maybe just try directly copying the mp3's over from your laptop to your micro sd card.

Tried that too no luck. Thanks for the suggetion.

guyver76 said:
Iam using the stock google music app and I synced my music with Windows Media Player 12 from my Windows 7 laptop. I have all my Album info but no Artist info. I've search for a way to get the info and I have removed all my music and resynced. Is there an app that can help or did I do something wrong when I synced my music. Thanks for the help.
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There are a couple ways to get artist and album info into your music. There are some apps on Android that can do it, but I personally find that it's music better to deal with doing this on a PC or Laptop than within Android.
The first and easiest method is to use WMP. Once your music is in a place WMP can actually find it, ie: a monitored folder of your PC, by default I think it's My Music but you can add folders manually, then you can open up WMP and hit the Find Album Info button, and go ahead and match your tracks to what you see in there. This works best if you have the music already arranged in folders using the Artist and Album names.
The second way is manually, there's an application called MusicBrainz Picard which is really good at identifying mp3s and also tagging them. If you ripped your music yourself from CDs or purchased them from Amazon or iTunes it should find the information and will match it up for you.
If MusicBrainz doesn't work for you, the last ditch program is Mp3tag which can look the information up based on Album or Artist names, then you can have it batch tag the files for you, based on your arranging the mp3s into the proper order, or you can just tag a few - whichever you prefer.
There are other tools as well but these are the programs I use, so I can only speak for them.
Good Luck.

guyver76 said:
Tried that too no luck. Thanks for the suggetion.
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Than you could try a different media player and see if google music is the problem.
Theres pleanty of free ones in the market.

Temp Fix
I sort of got my artist info. I downloaded IDFixer from the marketplace for free the only program that reads the née artist info is the Acer Media app. Hopefully Google will update their app to fix this.

Music syncing software?

I am coming from an iPhone and boy boy BOY do I miss the seamless syncing between iTunes and my iPhone..
It was nothing short of great.....
Now that I am rocking an S4, I am definitely missing this feature. I am using Winamp right now, but its not very good at deciphering stuff..and Samsung Kies is a joke.
I am looking for a piece of software that would rock at syncing my music with my S4 in a nice fashion. Any suggestions as I am really REALLY missing my iPhone 5 now simply because of a very simple feature...

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I am coming from an iPhone and boy boy BOY do I miss the seamless syncing between iTunes and my iPhone..
It was nothing short of great.....
Now that I am rocking an S4, I am definitely missing this feature. I am using Winamp right now, but its not very good at deciphering stuff..and Samsung Kies is a joke.
I am looking for a piece of software that would rock at syncing my music with my S4 in a nice fashion. Any suggestions as I am really REALLY missing my iPhone 5 now simply because of a very simple feature...
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Songbird for sure! Here's the Google Play link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.songbirdnest.mediaplayer&hl=en
and here's for the desktop client http://www.getsongbird.com/

Really? Plug in phone, copy Music folder on PC to phone.
Not sure why you would want to use crappy software like itunes when you can just drag and drop your whole music folder.

I'd recommend isyncr, it works flawlessly for me
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Songbird for sure! Here's the Google Play link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.songbirdnest.mediaplayer&hl=en
and here's for the desktop client http://www.getsongbird.com/
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I use poweramp. Will it still work seamlessly with it?

EpicMango said:
I use poweramp. Will it still work seamlessly with it?
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I know it will with the SongBird app, but not sure about PowerAmp...here's a thread on the subject though http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1562816

DoubleTwist works the best for me. Not sure about the other apps. It has a slight (but not very much) iTunes feel.
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iSyncr works great!

I'll also go for doubletwist. It has an integrated podcast manager as well.

geoldr said:
Really? Plug in phone, copy Music folder on PC to phone.
Not sure why you would want to use crappy software like itunes when you can just drag and drop your whole music folder.
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I agree, if you are plugging the phone in, just treat it as a drive and drag and drop. Syncing with iTunes is a big pain and a waste if you don't use song counts or any of that nonsense. If you already have your music organized by artist and album, then copy/paste is a lot faster.

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I agree, if you are plugging the phone in, just treat it as a drive and drag and drop. Syncing with iTunes is a big pain and a waste if you don't use song counts or any of that nonsense. If you already have your music organized by artist and album, then copy/paste is a lot faster.
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Exactly. Especially since Android runs a media scanner whenever you unplug, so all your Music apps like stock or Poweramp will see the changes instantly. And you can sort by folder so this is a great solution.

Reviving the topic, to see if anyone has a suggestion for PC software to sync music with the Galaxy S4.
I would prefer to have a program to handle this, so I don't have to manually build the folder structure (artist\album\file.mp3) and also, so I don't have to remember which new files I've gotten that need to be uploaded. Right now I'm using Windows Media Player, it worked reasonably well with my Xperia Ion, but with the Galaxy I have to stop and restart the sync and then stop it again, since it never reaches 100% even though all the mp3 files were uploaded. Also, it is not really syncing, if I change anything in already uploaded files, like tag or artwork, the changes don't go through, even if I manually delete the old file from my phone card.
I've tried Winamp, it doesn't recognize the SD card and wants to upload the files to the phone internal memory. Both Kies and Songbird never really connect to the device, they stay trying to connect for a long time. And Doubletwist Desktop does not update the music library when some files are added, deleted or changed.

SPOTIFY... 8 bucks a month for an unbelievable amount of music. The offline mode makes tracks accessible without and data and you can share music with your friends. You can also check out what they are jamming to and discover new music. I don't even know what people use iTunes anymore. Spotify also has a desktop interface so you can enjoy your music at the office on the Pc or Mac
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Thanks for the info. I'm not at all interested in all the "social" stuff, I just need an efficient way to sync my PC music library with my phone. I considered Google Music at some point, since it was offering 20,000 songs (double my library) for free, that you need to upload. Problem is that there is no easy way to tell the program to store it in a specific folder in the SD card. Also, I don't think you can just make the whole library offline, you have to do it track by track, or maybe album by album. How is Spotify in these two issues? Although, quite frankly, for almost $100 a year I'll probably stick with WMP for free.