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the best way to sync your music.

mediamonkey + rsync.
mediamonkey is by far the best and most robust batch id3 editor, converter, re-organizer, etc i've used.
unfortunately the sync kinda sucks with my N1. it has limited features (no ability to remove files from the N1 if you remove them from your library or move the folders around, etc)
enter: rsync (or grsync if you want a gui or are on windows)
usually what I do is on getting new music i'll add the music to mediamonkey (not the library just yet), then use the converter to lower the bitrate to 128kbps (i have a ton of music and don't mind sacrificing the barely noticeable quality difference for more space) and normalize the volume and re-organize them into /library/artist/album/track-title.mp3
then i'll rsync /android/Music with /library and voila.
note: i hated doubletwist. i did not have itunes and doubletwist wouldn't edit any of my mp3 tags. plus it was laggy and heavy.
sidebar: people hate on the android music player. its fantastic search function (partial searches ftw! i can search for "op orld" and it'll find "drop the world".) is indispensable.

I just dump everything into a folder on my SD card while it is mounted to my computer

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copy all works fine, but takes a long time if you have a large sdcard and library. unless you copy to the same folder and select to not overwrite existing files, but then you don't get updates that you make on your desktop and this could lead to duplicate files, etc.
rsync does incremental updates (only sends what's been changed) and has an option to delete files from the destination folder if they're not present in the source folder.
both Salling and DoubleTwist require an iTunes library, don't they? DoubleTwist was absolutely terrible for managing my library when i tried it. it read some 2,500 mp3s and read the metadata for maybe 20% of them, and left the others as just the filenames. that was shocking to me. Salling does require iTunes, and i dislike itunes a good bit.

you onlyneed itunes to convert files to a usable format. ie, AVI to MP4 etc

mediamonkey for me too, its great for fixing up tags and getting cover art.
There are some ipods in our house, mediamonkey syncs those too as well as various other devices.

t4tav said:
Doubletwist
Personally I can't fault it
Plus T-Mobile are thinking of partnering with them to ship it with "select" Android phones
How about Banshee ?
Above is Linux only :/
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Yup, double twist in partnership for tmobile is out.
http://apps.t-mobile.com/doubletwist/
worth noting that it doesnt have the amazon mp3 store in it.

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How about Banshee ?
Above is Linux only :/
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Actually, Banshee is available for Linux, Windows and OS X. The version released yesterday is supposed to include direct support for the Nexus One. Although when they advertised G1 support, it actually didn't work. They admitted that it didn't work when pressed and continued to advertise G1 support. It's not a terribly great player, but if I can drag and drop to my Nexus One AND transfer playlists appropriately, then I'll use it for that, but it doesn't really work too well for library management.

What Software and App work together? on Linux?
Doubletwist (Music,Videos,Podcasts,Playlists) does the job perfectly on windows and mac... but what about linux?
Banshee seems really good same as doubletwist except it puts everything into one folder it looks like. Music and Podcasts mix together with any app on my android device. Doubletwist had its own app which made it work correctly putting each media class into its own folder on the android device. Music=music podcasts=podcasts I used it all the time. Now I run only linux and would like something just as good.
App on LINUX laptop and App on device working together! Anyone have ideas? or at least a way to get banshee to put music in a specific folder on my android device and podcasts in another that I decide. If so I can just continue to use doubletwist app on android.
Please anyone with a solution?

I really thought you could get doubletwist on Linux.

I've been using rythmbox on linux. Its kind of a pain to sync playlists, and it took me forever to figure it out, but I hate banshee and I couldnt find anything else that works.

drewzee said:
I've been using rythmbox on linux. Its kind of a pain to sync playlists, and it took me forever to figure it out, but I hate banshee and I couldnt find anything else that works.
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drewzee does rythmbox have an android app? like doubletwist? so they talk pc to android.

winamp is nice, but the wireless sync needs to be fixed so it can directly send to sd card into a certain folder. Having 100s of artist folders on the main directory is annoying

I wish we could get the Zune software to work with android. :/

Previously, I was running rsync over ssh with Tasker to sync my music (and backup my SD) with my server
Since the command can sometimes take a while to execute (a new nand or several new albums etc) and there isnt any verbose output using Tasker, I just created a script that i can easily execute from BTEP and my music and other data are synced. this works for me

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I wish we could get the Zune software to work with android. :/
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Yes yes yes!! And that it worked on linux! I know its too much to ask for.
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pwig said:
I really thought you could get doubletwist on Linux.
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I have been trying to get doubletwist to work through wine. No luck. Got installed but it won't run. I'm using fedora 14 32bit. On dell xps1330. I'm more of an ubuntu user but need fedora for work.
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Why even sync it?
Audiogalaxy FTW

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drewzee does rythmbox have an android app? like doubletwist? so they talk pc to android.
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Im not sure what you mean because I've never used doubletwist, but the nexus will show up in the side pane of rhythmbox. You can right click, and then decide which playlists you want to sync etc...
The reason why I said it was a pain figuring out, is because the "My Top Rated" playlist would not update on my phone when I added new songs to it. I found out after tinkering that in order for that specific playlist to update, I had to delete the .pls file from the sd card before syncing it.

What are you guys using to Sync Music?

Coming from an iPhone I'm looking for something to repalce iTunes. A wireless sync program would be perfect, but wired will work. It also be nice if it could sync with a backup program to make full system backups like the iPhones does.

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doubletwist
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double twist is free and it works great BUT it doesn't do over the air and I don't know of a service that does this for free. the next best thing (actually better than double twist) is something called missing sync.

Froyo will include ota music as part of the Simplify Media team.

Doubletwist is a great program and I would recommend it to anyone. However, if you don't mind spending a few bucks you can get The Missing Sync which will sync your music right from iTunes through it's own worm whole.

I dont mind getting rid of Itunes...always was a laggy pos.

TuneSync. It's awesome if you're an iTunes user and don't want to re-home your library. It's a background app that will sync playlists over Wifi. Has OSX and Windows versions.
I'm really happy with it. Free version is limited to 20 songs per playlist. I bought the full for like $4.
It will also reverse sync any mp3's bought from the Amazon store on the handset. That's a pretty nice feature.
EDIT: Missing Sync looks cool, but it's $40. Syncs a lot more than music, but if you just want to sync music, TuneSync is your app at 10% of the price.

doubletwist always freezes on me. I use Songbird to sync.

I use isyncr straight from iTunes
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I've been using double twist which is almost as much of a dog as itunes is on my machine, but tune sync looks good, I'll have to check that out.
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I use dropbox... just trow my music in the folder, and then download them to my music file...
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Grims said:
Coming from an iPhone I'm looking for something to repalce iTunes. A wireless sync program would be perfect, but wired will work. It also be nice if it could sync with a backup program to make full system backups like the iPhones does.
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sjwaste beat me to it. I use Tunesync. Syncs with whatever playlists i want form iTunes wirelessly without me doing a darn thing.

drag and drop doesn't work for you?

I haven't bothered to sync a bunch of music, I am mostly using Last.FM android app, but I recommend mediamonkey, just set it up as generic usb device
tho if you have lossless files, on the fly conversion requires the non-free gold version.

Rennat said:
Doubletwist is a great program and I would recommend it to anyone. However, if you don't mind spending a few bucks you can get The Missing Sync which will sync your music right from iTunes through it's own worm whole.
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ITunes what are you kidding me?

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drag and drop doesn't work for you?
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I like to lower the bit rate. What I play on my home stereo and my EVO are two different things.

Windows Media Player can sync music as well.
But there's nothing easier than just drag&drop.
Screw iTunes.

iSyncr. Love making playlists on my PC in iTunes, easy to organize songs I want/don't want by checking/unchecking in iTunes. Isn't free but is very easy to use.

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Windows Media Player can sync music as well.
But there's nothing easier than just drag&drop.
Screw iTunes.
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Amen.. Free from the beast!!! If only my shuffle could find a reliable replacement to sync music..

Best way to copy music to phone

Does anyone have any suggested techniques for copying MP3 or WMA files to the phone (SD or Internal memory)?
What I've discovered is that synching with Media Player will transfer over these hidden files (album art, desktop.ini, and folder.jpg). These hidden files seem to mess with the way the Sense music player is picking up the music and what ends up happening is that in the music players details view, it does indeed break up the artists and the albums etc. HOWEVER, in the default view (the one that shows the album covers) it doesn't know what to do and only shows you the album cover of the particular album you are listening too. There's no way to get to the other album without going into the details menu and selecting it from there.
Whew - SO, all that being said; what I found is that if I delete the album art, desktop.ini and folder.jpg files BEFORE manually dragging and dropping the music over to the phone it seems to resolve the problem.
So is there a more streamlined approach to doing this?

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yatman60 said:
Does anyone have any suggested techniques for copying MP3 or WMA files to the phone (SD or Internal memory)?
What I've discovered is that synching with Media Player will transfer over these hidden files (album art, desktop.ini, and folder.jpg). These hidden files seem to mess with the way the Sense music player is picking up the music and what ends up happening is that in the music players details view, it does indeed break up the artists and the albums etc. HOWEVER, in the default view (the one that shows the album covers) it doesn't know what to do and only shows you the album cover of the particular album you are listening too. There's no way to get to the other album without going into the details menu and selecting it from there.
Whew - SO, all that being said; what I found is that if I delete the album art, desktop.ini and folder.jpg files BEFORE manually dragging and dropping the music over to the phone it seems to resolve the problem.
So is there a more streamlined approach to doing this?
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Put your INC in DISK DRIVE mode and copy your files to the SD card using Windows Explorer. You can also take out the SD card, put it in a reader, plug that into your PC's card reader, and put the files there via Windows Explorer.
Of course, all this presupposes that your MP3 files are correct (e.g., their ID3 tags are correct; and the album art was already integrated).

I use Tunesync, there're also isyncr, doubletwist, websharing....
The thing I like about these sync software is that they put your music in a playlist, which all the players can see.
First thing I would do is ditch the default android player though and stay away from Music PlayerPro too (just a skinned default player-same options same problems).
I am using bTunes, I think it's already abandon by the developer, but since it works and I already paid for it so might as well.
I recommend Mort Player if you don't look at it too much, Man!..that UI is just plain Ugly.

DoubleTwist is great. It also syncs your videos as well. Best part is it only syncs what you want. You create playlists and it syncs based on their contents
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Thanks...
Thanks for the info everyone. I guess the bottom line is that music software on Android is still in infancy stages with a lot of options but nothing that really just stands out. I hate to admit it but looks like Apple has a (+) in this department for now. My Incredible is a filler phone to hold me over until with WINMO7 stuff starts to hit Verizon so just looking for the best combinations of software on this thing.
I'm totally new to Android but I would have thought that the folks over at Google would have taken the media experience a little more seriously and spent some time on those aspects out of the box.

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Thanks for the info everyone. I guess the bottom line is that music software on Android is still in infancy stages with a lot of options but nothing that really just stands out. I hate to admit it but looks like Apple has a (+) in this department for now. My Incredible is a filler phone to hold me over until with WINMO7 stuff starts to hit Verizon so just looking for the best combinations of software on this thing.
I'm totally new to Android but I would have thought that the folks over at Google would have taken the media experience a little more seriously and spent some time on those aspects out of the box.
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Google was doing fine, 2.1 was solid. It uses up battery like there's no tomorrow, but solid.
2.2 seem like it's coded by 5 year olds... in Mongolia...using Vtech's Vsmile system....during recess. Maybe that's why the battery last longer, nothing works. Could be a way to make us pay for third-party apps (free enterprise at work).

Bus, now that's just plan 'ol funny. Educational (for me) at the same time.

I use the free version of Media Monkey on my Win XP desktop and Meridian on my Dinc. Then I sync playlists (like I used to on my iPhone 3G). Works like a champ.

The iPhone is far superior in the music catagory (dsp, organization, genius) but u have to keep inmind it stemed from an ipod. That said the closest ive come to it is boomboxoid but its terribly slow and often unresponsive. Which is why i primarily use pandora now...an ipod like music player is the app i want most!
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gimini said:
The iPhone is far superior in the music catagory (dsp, organization, genius) but u have to keep inmind it stemed from an ipod. That said the closest ive come to it is boomboxoid but its terribly slow and often unresponsive. Which is why i primarily use pandora now...an ipod like music player is the app i want most!
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I've mentioned bTunes above. It's the exact replica of the iPhone/iPod player.

Google music beta and Audio galaxy my thoughts after trying both.

I just got my Google music beta invite and i have to say im impressed very much so!! Its very easy to install and the ui looks smooth on my phone and on my pc. Works very nicely as a music player on pc and phone and streams everything flawless on 3g or wifi on my phone which im really excited about. I have been using Audio galaxy ever since it came out for android and i love that app as its probably my most used app as it streams all my music perfect over 3g and wifi but i think Audio galaxy has some stiff competition with google music beta!
The only downside i can see so far to google music beta is the limit, it can only stream 20,000 songs and i have over 60, 000 songs. While Audio Galaxy can stream any limit its endless. So far the google music is beautiful and i will be using this for the next week and see if any more probs show up but so far none that i can see. Anything that lets me play music free from my phone streaming perfect is great in my eyes. I guess i have 2 great music players now for my car and everywhere else.

Thanks for the comparison. I've been an avid user of Audiogalaxy for a while now, so I was wondering if Google Music would be better. So far it looks like it has a slicker UI and maybe better playback? Haven't seen the PC UI though, so I'm interested in that.

Audiogalaxy updated their UI and its ugly. I decided to stay on the old version. That aside, I like AG more than google music.
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What's audio galaxy and google music beta? How do I install so I can try them out?

heres is the audio galaxy link from market:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.audiogalaxy&feature=search_result
beautiful music streaming app
google music beta u have to sign up for beta then eventually ur invite will arrive as mine arrive today.

Heard the upload from PC to Google's cloud is too slow for Music beta?

movieaddict said:
heres is the audio galaxy link from market:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.audiogalaxy&feature=search_result
beautiful music streaming app
google music beta u have to sign up for beta then eventually ur invite will arrive as mine arrive today.
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Thank you very much for your recommendation. Since I am from outside US , I can't use Google music right now so I will try audio galaxy.

yah it does do the sync first time very slow i have to admit that. But i have alot of music but after first sync it should be fine.

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Heard the upload from PC to Google's cloud is too slow for Music beta?
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it took me like 3-4 days to upload 7600 songs. but my upload on my cable connection is only 1Mbps. so yeah, it took a long time, but now that's done and i'm really liking it.

Thanks guys. Now waiting for my invite.

Don't mean to hijack the thread but just a quick note to those that will be uploading music to Google Music Beta.
Make sure you have all your tracks organized and cleaned up, as in no duplicates etc... What you upload is what you get. If you have duplicates there is no easy way that I found to clean it up once it is in the cloud. If anyone knows a way to do this I would love to know
Other than that I like the experience so far, streaming has worked well.

yes there is a way to clean it up. Go to albums,songs or artists and u will see a little triangle by it. Click that and u will get lots of options as to edit names, delete artist and more all in that little triangle. Its alot easier to see in artist and albums just click the album and look by the cd cover. I hope this helps u!

Thinking of trying out ag, but how does the client on my phone find my server? I don't have a static ip address and am to lazy to setup something dyndns. Does ag have a server that acts as a node between our own server and the client?
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I don't get it.
We're Android users.
We can stream from our own AV system, no limits.
What is the point of this?

ericgill said:
I don't get it.
We're Android users.
We can stream from our own AV system, no limits.
What is the point of this?
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I gotta admit. i got google music and it's pretty f'n awesome. I'm not sure what AudioGalaxy is but i've been using subsonic which uses ur computer as a server to push songs to you wherever you are but the downside to that is keeping ur computer on. Is that the same for audiogalaxy?
Anyway, it's all about the cloud. access your music anywhere, anytime. no strings attached.
And damn, the upload is so f'n slow. spent the whole day uploading and it's only got 2.5k songs done. still got another 11k to go. :/

dandab said:
I gotta admit. i got google music and it's pretty f'n awesome. I'm not sure what AudioGalaxy is but i've been using subsonic which uses ur computer as a server to push songs to you wherever you are but the downside to that is keeping ur computer on. Is that the same for audiogalaxy?
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As I remember, yes. But you don't need anything but your router's IP address to get to your own network, then you can use any player you like.
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Anyway, it's all about the cloud. access your music anywhere, anytime. no strings attached.
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Aside from size limitations, privacy problems, DRM and the major labels and Google being able to yank your music at any time?
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And damn, the upload is so f'n slow. spent the whole day uploading and it's only got 2.5k songs done. still got another 11k to go. :/
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Seriously - why bother?

^Wholeheartedly agree...sorry for the late bump...but just got my invite and already I'm not stoked.
Interface is great, app is great, it's google-slick.
Problems (dealbreakers vs. Audiogalaxy):
Can't stream DRM content...some of my favorite music is DRM'ed (thanks to freaking Itunes...but I was not ahem...enlightened back then). I'm somewhat of an audiophile and most options for stripping DRM involve recompressing and already highly degraded compressed file.
Upload is slow...but I can deal
Pretty much every thing ericgill pointed out I agree with. My home server is on all the time...AG is superior...at least for now.
Not a current Vibrant user...but I thought I'd chime in...

cant stream to multiple accounts
The one major blocked on using Google music is that I can not stream simultaneously to multiple accounts. I can do this with AG. My wife and I can enjoy together.

How to transfer iphone/itunes music to android phone.

Thought I'd post this in case it might help someone. I just switched from an iphone to a Samsung Galaxy S3 and am having a fun time (read: ***** of a time) transferring my stuff over. After a lot of reading, I found a way to move my iphone music including playlists over to the new phone.
Here was my situation - I had a bunch of mp3s and playlists on my iphone that were not synced to itunes, and if you know how that works, if you try to sync your phone to the itunes library, what happens is that whatever is on your phone gets erased and overwritten with your music library in itunes.
I looked online for a simple step by step solution but instead of finding one, I found a bunch of different piecemeal solutions that only took care of some of my problems and did not have the entire process from start to finish so I had to devise my own way using bits and pieces of other solutions. Here's what I did:
btw, all apps I used were free.
1. Install and run Sharepod on your PC. This program will export the music and playlists on your iphone to your PC. You want to choose the Backup Ipod option and then create a folder on your PC to store the music files. Also, you want to make sure you check the Import my music to Itunes box. This will add all of the files and playlists to your itunes library.
2. Install an app called easy phone tunes on your phone.
3. Install the PC component of easy phone tunes on your PC.
4. Run the app on your phone and follow the prompts.
5. Run the program on your PC and follow the prompts.
6. Sit back and relax while all of your music and all of your playlists are transferred over.
Very simple, very easy, and worked great for me. Hope it helps someone.

Another method you can use is DoubleTwist(free in the market). It sync's from iTunes
I create a playlist in iTunes on my PC just for my phone. Installed DoubleTwist on my PC, and my phone, tell DoubleTwist which playlist to sync, and it does the rest

kangi26 said:
Another method you can use is DoubleTwist(free in the market). It sync's from iTunes
I create a playlist in iTunes on my PC just for my phone. Installed DoubleTwist on my PC, and my phone, tell DoubleTwist which playlist to sync, and it does the rest
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+1 for DoubleTwist!
I use the wireless version, which is a little silly since I am sitting in front of my PC when I sync.
The only complaint that I have with DoubleTwist (player) is that it doesn't work with my BT headphone controls. Still looking for a solution there but for the synch, it is great!

Try tool's and transfer all your music from your iPhone to your an android phone
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+1 on double twist....works great.

I used isyncr, works great and easy to use.
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Why not use Samsung Kies software? Not only does it transfer itunes it can even read your iPhone backup file and transfer your text, email, sms, pics, etc. Works very well.
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Why not use Samsung Kies software? Not only does it transfer itunes it can even read your iPhone backup file and transfer your text, email, sms, pics, etc. Works very well.
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I looked at Kies but didn't see an option to transfer sms/texts to the S3.

Oh god, I have nothing but bad things to say about DoubleTwist. It has duplicated my music, erased my playlists, and locked up my computer multiple times. My advice would be to avoid it.
I used Easy Phone Tunes. It's a variant of the utility Samsung put out a few weeks ago to help iTunes users sync their stuff to their new Galaxy easily. It's pretty simple. Plus the developers emailed me back within 2 hours. I didn't think I'd get a response at all.