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Still a buggy phone!!

The Nexus S is quite possibly the best but most frustrating phone I've ever had. I love the hardware and the android OS. I still get random reboots, sometimes sms notifications never show up, and sometimes when I get a phone call the phone becomes unresponsive.
I've been using the latest NSCollab rom for several versions and have never over/under clocked. I clear the dalvik cache after every update and clear data/restore with titanium backup whenever necessary.
I'll feel like I've been doing everything correctly, yet I'm still left with a phone that gives me a lot of grief. What's the problem here? How can I fix this? This is extremely frustrating with no obvious solution.

I had a lot of problems with the nexus s... Now i have a galaxy sii, but i still have the nexus. Using the nscollab, i had a looooot of problems, now the phone are with the stock 2.3.4, in my tests, everything is fine. I will sell it now.
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I don't know what kernel that rom uses but that and settings on voltages make the whole difference in stability. Something like stock rom with stock kernel or cm7 with stock or netatchys kernel are always good choices and will give you stability.
Just IMHO
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mariosergio2112, how much do you expect to get from selling it?
I believe NSCollab is Cm7 with netarchy and the stock gingerbread launcher -- nothing crazy here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=959282
NSCollab 1.0.35
Android : GB 2.3.4
System : CyanogenMod 7.1 [RC1] [CM Team]
Kernel : Netarchy CFS 1.3.4 [Netarchy]

Truth of the matter is that I've yet to come across a ROM that's rock solid. I've tried them all and always had either lots of random reboots, bootloops, or sluggishness.
I went back to stock last Thursday and it's been butter smooth since. No problems or anything of the sort.
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That's both good and bad news. Good news: there's a fix. Bad news: I really like some of CM7's features, but I guess it must go.
I'll give the stock rom a shot I guess.

glasslung said:
That's both good and bad news. Good news: there's a fix. Bad news: I really like some of CM7's features, but I guess it must go.
I'll give the stock rom a shot I guess.
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The Oxygen ROM is very stable aswell.

i tried several roms, but after all i came back to stock, it is stable and fast.. I do miss many features from cm7, but i guess i can live without it.
currently i'm trying to find a kernel with a battery life as good as stock one... i really miss bln ...

All I'm saying look into your voltage settings. Each phone will work different and you have to play with adjusting them. It also takes some time and patience.
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No matter what rom I use I end up going back to stock. I don't even think the net kernel is good enough.

glasslung said:
mariosergio2112, how much do you expect to get from selling it?
I believe NSCollab is Cm7 with netarchy and the stock gingerbread launcher -- nothing crazy here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=959282
NSCollab 1.0.35
Android : GB 2.3.4
System : CyanogenMod 7.1 [RC1] [CM Team]
Kernel : Netarchy CFS 1.3.4 [Netarchy]
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I will sell it in brazil, where i live, i think 1000 reais, i dont know yet.
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Vandam500 said:
Truth of the matter is that I've yet to come across a ROM that's rock solid. I've tried them all and always had either lots of random reboots, bootloops, or sluggishness.
I went back to stock last Thursday and it's been butter smooth since. No problems or anything of the sort.
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no ROM I've tried has ever compared to stock, especially 2.3.4, when it comes to stability.
I tried Many ROMs but all before 2.3.4 (end of April?) and none was able to run for more than a few days without some kind of reboot/bootloop etc.
2.3.4 has been running flawlessly ever since.
Current uptime is like 1100+ hrs and that too cause i had to remove battery to change SIM card.

Hi,
I have installed NSCollab 1.0.35 on a week and have not problems on my Nexus S.

To resume, i had some endless bootloop and a lot of reboot on long calls.
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My 2 cents:
I'm on NSCollab 1.0.34, Netharky 1.3.4, KB3, OV to 1.2 Ghz, UV with protonvoltage. Gingerbread 2.3.4
I find this combo much faster than the stock one, smooth and pretty stable. Actually I have some reboots when I stress a lot my device, but they are rare.
So I don't want to renounce to Cyanogen features as the stock rom was really slow IMHO and I will give a try to NSCollab 1.0.35 very soon!
No problems in answering, good radio performance, faster than light (quadrant score: 3600) !! I can survive with a couple of reboot in a week!!

Too much porn?
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Why don't you people stop confusing CM7 with a stable ROM? CyanogenMod and netarchy kernel are probably the most crappy android software that were ever made.
I suggest you use Oxygen ROM and Jame Bond kernel. No fancy quadrant benchmarks, stock ROM with basic functions like notification power control and text reflow in browser, zipaligned and all that stuff. Delete setcpu, delete juicedefender and other crappy so called battery savers, do not undervolt and do not touch the CPU frequency. Just let the ROM run like it is supposed to, don't fill it with all the bloatware you find on market that is said to increase performance or battery life, all they do is eating system resources.
I have yet to find a better combination like this for the nexus S, I am using the ROM since 3 days now without a single reboot/FC/freeze/bootloop. I am playing order and chaos MMO 2-3 hours and I can go through the full day without problems, the phone is responsive and simply works, no fancy sh*t.

Using the stock, all is fine..
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lvnatic said:
Why don't you people stop confusing CM7 with a stable ROM? CyanogenMod and netarchy kernel are probably the most crappy android software that were ever made.
I suggest you use Oxygen ROM and Jame Bond kernel. No fancy quadrant benchmarks, stock ROM with basic functions like notification power control and text reflow in browser, zipaligned and all that stuff. Delete setcpu, delete juicedefender and other crappy so called battery savers, do not undervolt and do not touch the CPU frequency. Just let the ROM run like it is supposed to, don't fill it with all the bloatware you find on market that is said to increase performance or battery life, all they do is eating system resources.
I have yet to find a better combination like this for the nexus S, I am using the ROM since 3 days now without a single reboot/FC/freeze/bootloop. I am playing order and chaos MMO 2-3 hours and I can go through the full day without problems, the phone is responsive and simply works, no fancy sh*t.
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How does oxygen rom compare to oxygen rom with james bond kernel? I installed the oxygen rom last night and have had no problems so far. Time will tell how it holds up in the long run.

lvnatic said:
Why don't you people stop confusing CM7 with a stable ROM? CyanogenMod and netarchy kernel are probably the most crappy android software that were ever made.
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Yeah... if it wasn't for that crap you would have **** for your ROM.
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Best custom rom to go with?

I will be getting my tablet tomorrow as soon as Fed Ex gets here , what I am wondering is which custom rom available for the a500 is the best one to go with? Personally I am a heavy wifi user, and will be using my tablet a lot for browsing, social, RDP, advanced experimenting, etc. I want to make sure I choose the best rom for that is fairly stable and will not have issues with the above mentioned things.
I am no stranger to roms, I have done many many phones and devices from WebOS devices to hacking some WinCE GPS units, so I am not afraid of a rom being slightly more technical to use.

I'm using honeyvillain 3.1. Very fast and stable. I'm also using opera web browser instead stock one because i think is more powerful and useful. With virtousxoom i cannot connect any usb hd. I've tried virtous picasso. It was good but sometimes iconia doesn't wake up from standby. I need to force reboot my tablet using reset button.

ibietto said:
I'm using honeyvillain 3.1. Very fast and stable. I'm also using opera web browser instead stock one because i think is more powerful and useful. With virtousxoom i cannot connect any usb hd. I've tried virtous picasso. It was good but sometimes iconia doesn't wake up from standby. I need to force reboot my tablet using reset button.
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Honeyvillain was one of the ones I have been considering, any quirks you find with it? Anything that should be done to it in your opinion once installed?

Also one of the reasons I am not just going with honeyvillian is no longer being supported... So I am not sure because I want to make sure whatever rom I go with will be supported .

Galaxy v1.0.5 very stable pretty fast,can see SD card,screen shoot button,good battery drain with airplane mode on and wifi.Try them all then you have the feel for each one just like most of us on here did.

I think I've tried just about every ROM on the boards , and while much of it is personal preference, ie: eyecandy and video with Virtuous Galaxy , good all around ROM Virtuous Picasso, and HoneyVillian, Virtuous Xoom which is a good solid ROM with no great battery drain, and iirc deejay has straightened out the USB storage issue. But my all time favorite so far is Virtuous Thrive, only out in it's second iteration, it's already the most stable ROM I've personally used. Like I said though, a lot of it is just personal preference.

Yeah I am sure I will probably end up trying them all out anyway. I just looked at my tracking, it's only 300 miles away now!

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Yeah I am sure I will probably end up trying them all out anyway. I just looked at my tracking, it's only 300 miles away now!
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lol don't know where you're from, but Target has them on sale for $399.99 with a $50.00 Target gift card included, making it $349.99 for the tablet.

kjy2010 said:
lol don't know where you're from, but Target has them on sale for $399.99 with a $50.00 Target gift card included, making it $349.99 for the tablet.
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Yeah I seriously thought about going to the local target, but after local sales tax it would of been almost $440 out the door, and then $50 of that savings I would of made would be limited to target. I got one on ebay for $395 + Fedex 2 Day shipping, not too bad. With the roughly $45 I saved in real cash I am weighting out the current case options.
I am considering getting the one I think I saw you got, could be wrong though. On ebay they have those $20 ones that ship out of hong kong with a USB Keyboard, though on amazon and a few other e-retailers you can get them shipped from state side for roughly $30. I figured I could hold off on the case for a little bit and give the after market some time to get some accessories out and let some of the prices drop.
I really love the idea of the case with the keyboard, I do a lot of programming and typing based stuff so for me having a keyboard would be ideal, though I am not a fan of those KB cases in the fact that they are not designed very well, any tablet fitted into one can slip right out if tipped (nothing stopping it from sliding upward), though I imagine I could easily engineer a fix for that , though I also want to find a nice sling bag or backpack for traveling about, it's a tad bit too big for your pocket.
One of the first projects I want to work on is getting ubuntu or backtrack running, I've seen installers on the market and from what I understand they seem to work fairly well, I really hope too that someone manages to port WebOS to the a500, I imagine it would be quite possible. Maybe just a bit of a hassle with some drivers.

Have not tried the thrive yet - i just always end up back at the galaxy, hard on the juice a lot of needless apps seem to run in the background (mdj!) but it just is so smooth no browser screen ripping and its the fastest so far according to:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1175600
MJ-12

Just got my device 30 min ago, as soon as I connected to the wifi on the initial setup it asked me to download the new 3.1 update , which it is currently installing. Then I will do a backup and try the thrive rom.

Got my device flashed to Thrive, sofar it's pretty nice, want to try to find the games that came with it NFS and the other one... I tried the XDA app but when I tried to click my profile in it it crashed

I recommand honeyvillian its the most stable from ever I hate the galaxy I do no how its fast as they say when I install it its so slow and the keyboard layout is really ugly... anyway its just me I guess... I love the honey villian
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demmo81 said:
I recommand honeyvillian its the most stable from ever I hate the galaxy I do no how its fast as they say when I install it its so slow and the keyboard layout is really ugly... anyway its just me I guess... I love the honey villian
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Yeah I tried the thrive all day, and I found it to be not that stable. A lot of times the gallery would hang, trying to use other players for video would all hang, and an annoying bug with hitting the power button and the device going off, and then back on. I am downloading honeyvillian now.

hi ..... has nobody here tried taboonay with thor kernel... opps i mean with the kernel from he who shall not be named... fast, responsive, great battery life, etc, etc, etc,

Here's my personal take.
Each ROM has it's strengths and weaknesses. Luckily, all of the following support 5MP camera and 2MP front-facing camera, so that's not an issue.
Note that the SD card slot will mount differently in each of the following ROMs.
Virtuous Picasso - Acer-based HC3.1, picasso-hc-kernel. Very close to stock, assume everything will work the way it's supposed to. Major downside (IMHO) -- WP7 fonts. Install Fontchanger and revert back to stock.
Virtuous Galaxy - Galaxy Tab base HC3.1, picasso-hc-kernel. Really snappy, very nice overall. Galaxy UI reminds me of Windows 95; I'm not a fan. Overall very pleasant to use.
Virtuous Xoom - Motorola base, HC3.2, picasso-hc-kernel. It's HC3.2, so it's brag-worthy. Many peripherals you'd assume would work just don't (from what I've read). Can't save directly to secondary SD in camera. Also, some issues with mounting USB (use a 3rd party mounting app from Market).
Virtuous Thrive - No idea.
Honeyvillain - No idea.
Taboonay - Vache is awesome. Basically a clean Acer ROM. Never used it due to since-resolved kernel issues.
My personal ethic is "don't use a ROM that uses a kernel where the source is not available". As Vache says, "using kernel without sources is warez". Basically, if a ROM includes a kernel where the author won't release sources (or patches), it's not even worth messing with.
I also don't like when a ROM author sets the default clock to 1.2GHz. Default OC assumes a lot of things (like the ambient temperature of the environment of the user) -- which is "not cool" (pun intended).
If you want just "a good experience" -- root your A500, install SetCPU (google for a recent apk) and set the scheduler to Interactive, 1000MHz. If you're just hurting for 3.1 (from what I understand 3.1 for A500 is end of July), there's a stock 3.1 updater from Vache available.
I would recommend IconiaRoot (google it) and Acer Recovery installer (from Market). If you have the means, buy a license for Titanium Backup -- it will save you a ton of time switching between ROMs.
MAKE SURE YOU ALWAYS MAKE A FULL BACKUP USING CLOCKWORKMOD.
What do I use? Virtuous Xoom.
Why? It's HC3.2 and it works for me. I don't use external peripherals and don't plan to.
tl;dr -- make backups. experiment. there is no "best"/silver-bullet for everyone. don't mess with ROMs that use no-source kernels.

I am trying out the xoom rom now, so far it is my favorite one that I have tried.
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for me is honey villian 1.4 with thor kernel. All usb devices , 3g working great.
Fast , smooth stable.
Tried some Virtuous roms, but there are too many of them and all have too many bugs for me.

dmatusek76 said:
for me is honey villian 1.4 with thor kernel. All usb devices , 3g working great.
Fast , smooth stable.
Tried some Virtuous roms, but there are too many of them and all have too many bugs for me.
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Does your 3G connection persist when screen turns off ??
Because mine doesnt, and i have to rr ril-daemon with the RilRestarter apk to get connected again. This does not happen with galaxy ROM, 3G remains connected when screen turns off.
Beside this issue i agree that honey Villain is the most reliable ROM atm.

no problem with screen off, i'm using latest thor kernel.

[Q] Which ROM are you using and why?

There are quite a few Iconia ROM's floating about, which all seem quite similar from the eyes of a newbie. I thought I'd start up a general discussion thread about the perceived merits of why you are using a particular ROM.
I've had my Iconia for a few weeks - I upgraded to 3.1, played with it for a few days, then went Minimalist 3.2.1 and have been using it ever since. It's based on the Xoom ROM
My thoughts:
* Generally feels quite snappy - I didn't notice a massive switch between the OTA 3.1 and this however
* 3.2 means there's the "zoom" button which is nice if I ever need it
* The stock Honeycomb clock is there which I prefer to Acer's Simi clone
* I have the occasional application crash - generally without a warning, I get plopped back to the desktop. This has happened across quite a few apps, mostly within the browser, and I lose all my tabs which is a bit irritating. Don't know if this the ROM or Honeycomb in general.
* Love the dropping of all the custom apps which are generally useless to me.
* Would like some customisation options since it looks and feels very vanilla but don't know if there's a lot in that way on the Iconia yet.
So what are you using? What do you like and why?

also a minimalist 3.2.1 user here. I've added a few things to my aresonal such as thumb board, ADW EX (as a launcher replacement) and a few tweaks like setcpu. Great tablet after removing the crap... but at least it isn't as bad as my phone started out.

my $0.02 USD
Stock Acer a500 rom - running 3.1 with richardtrip's custom kernel, rooted, crap Acer bloatware disabled, CPU set to 1.4 ghz via set CPU app and I am blown away. More responsive then most desktops/laptops I have seen.

I'm using taboonay 1.1. It is based off iconia stock rom 3.1. So far it is fast and smooth compared to stock. Dev removed most of the bloat. The only problem I have with it is the random fc I get in market when I check "my apps". I like running custom stock Roms because I like knowing all the features on my tablet works.
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I'm liking LightSpeed,its definitely smooth running and i'm not having any video issues like i did in other roms i tried.It's fast without a OC kernel and all the bloatware was removed from the beginning.I'm able to install the honeyvillain game addon.Just an all around good rom.

I just switched to the Taboonay 1.1 with Richard's kernel from Virtuous Galaxy and I am very happy that I did. Altought VG is quite fast and has the touchwix UI there were problems with the youtube app (unable to seek) and also the sound was not Dolby. So far I am very happy with Taboonay 1.1.

I use the stock 3.1 a500 rom different kernel, btw its fun modding stock and adding the mods/tweaks that you like its also a great learning experience
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I'm running LightSpeed as well; my only gripe is that for some reason on this ROM I'm not able to install Facebook for Android. It won't even show in the Market!
My other main gripe about tablets revolves around the external SD card not being more intuitive; I can't see to find any settings to tell apps like Google Music to use the SD card for storage instead of the internal memory.

the best rom and i have tried theem all is wihout a doubt the thor galaxy rom with thor kker.nel 1.15. Itt is fast, support 3g modem and the browser is without ripping effect..... I hate that on other rom...dont forget to use the adw launcher ex...

vince1979 said:
and also the sound was not Dolby.
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People on here do not talk about that often but it is important to those of us music lovers. I always thought Dolby was mostly just marketing BS but there is a dramatic difference in the sound.
Taboonay 1.1 with Thor's kernel works great for me and since it is built on the stock rom it includes dolby.

I tried Virtuous Picasso and Virtuous Galaxy. Both were fast and I liked some of the apps that came with the Galaxy. However, they were both a little buggy. I had to reboot the Iconia a couple of times during the short period that I tested them.
I have been using Taboonay 1.1 for almost a month now. I don't remember having to reboot the device or anything fcing on me. My only complain (if you can call that), is the app selection that comes with the ROM. I don't see going to any other ROM anytime soon.

Currently using Honeycomb 3.2 stock from with Asus Netflix patch best benefit Dolby digital small loss 1.5 ghz overclocking. Also running minimalist 3.2 with Asus Netflix patch best feature overclocking and UI and video playback much smoother loss Dolby digital
Acer A500 3.2 AsusNetflix patch FTW

fastest rom ?

Hey i just got my tf yesterday and i would like to know which rom is the fastest

There is no fastest. Its all subject to what you are doing, how many apps you have and your perceptions. There is no source for hc so everyone is basically modifying the stock firmware. Try them all and see what works for you.

ah okay I forgot al about the source code^^ okay then I will give it a try.
Thanks for the info

Like frog said, there really isn't a "fastest rom." Even if we had the source, that doesn't matter. Speed of a rom is really perceived by the user. One rom may handle a lot of multitasking while another one opens apps in a flash. Based on how you use your tablet, the slow but really nice multitasking rom may feel faster to you than the one that opens apps quickly.

could you guys suggest me a rom?

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get prime 1.9 and flash a clemsyn kernel on it

ARHD is nice. Really snappy, for me anyways. I find multitasking smoother on it than Prime. Haven't tried Prime 1.9 yet, but I'm running HD 1.1.0 with Clemsyn's kernel v12..(lol haven't updated)

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ARHD is nice. Really snappy, for me anyways. I find multitasking smoother on it than Prime. Haven't tried Prime 1.9 yet, but I'm running HD 1.1.0 with Clemsyn's kernel v12..(lol haven't updated)
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Did you flash RHD over the Prime or wiped everything before you flashed it?

I find that it varies from device to device. I'm running clemysn ver.4 combo and its been real nice
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I use Prime 1.9 and [Kernel] Clemsyn-Blades-CPAjuste-supercurio OC kernel for 3.2 elite ver 16
OC at 1.4 = smooth sailing..

Used prime 1.4, 1.7, 1.84, and now on 1.9 with clemson blades v.17a and it runs great. I suggest the clemsonblades kernel for the gpu OCing and voodoo support. Used Gnufabio 2.5 (i think) but flashing the clemson blades kernal made me lose the Honeycomb button bar and reflashing backups wouldn't fix it. Had to nvflash to fix it. But to be fair it might be rare. Think I only saw one other person report this.
Thought about android revolution because of more crapware taken out and integrated ad blocking, but don't want to superwipe and set everything up again. You might want to try though, since you're starting fresh. Think I've seen people using it with the Clemson Blades kernal v.17 just fine. Might have been v.17b though, without voodoo sound.

trouble charging
Also, one more reason to use clemson-blades is that people are experiencing a charging issue with (i think) all of the more recent versions of prime, android revolution, and gnufabio. Basically, charging don't work properly after a certain amount of uptime and only comes back with reboot.
clemson-blades v.17 fixes this by forcing usb charging.

Q---What rom are you running any why?

I am trying roms and i am a htc sense lover lol. Does anyone have great roms or any good reasons on why i should try them? recommendations really

I'm using lightspeed with 3g. Its fast, it has awesome battery life and supports 3G.

Good reason. What's the heavy music use lol. I use bt n music all the time
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honeyvillain 1.2
Because i like acer apps, like the folders for social, games, and other stuff, also i liked lets golf and need for seed and with this rom you have the best from custom roms and stock roms.
It has a good battery life, and i watch a lot of videos in the tablet. It last 6 hours when watching videos, when surfing it last 8 hours the most.

IMO the best rom is the stock 3.1 with root and richardtrips kernel as most other roms have problems with one thing or another and its always a trade off. 3.1 is solid and the custom kernel allows for 1.6 OC which really turns the device into a powerhouse.
I'm also into the vanilla look of honeycomb and the cheesy icon reskins found on other roms is pretty lame but to each his own .
Probably not what you wanted to hear since you're asking about custom roms but it doesnt hurt to express my opinion on the subject.

was using taboonay 2.0 with thor kernel.
battery life good and fast.
O.C to 1.5 and its stable for me. (directly from tabootools, not using setCPU
currently testing Taboonay 2.1 and seems good too. just right now many people having root issues so better dont jump to it.

LightHaze said:
was using taboonay 2.0 with thor kernel.
battery life good and fast.
O.C to 1.5 and its stable for me. (directly from tabootools, not using setCPU
currently testing Taboonay 2.1 and seems good too. just right now many people having root issues so better dont jump to it.
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I would love it if the sim card notification at lock will die off. help?

leo72793 said:
I would love it if the sim card notification at lock will die off. help?
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I had this problem of getting please insert Sim. I found I out that it is kernel specific. If the kernel devs had developed it for use with a500/501 then the Sim card will be present. If that is the case then you need to add the line ro.carrier=wifi-only to /system/build.prop
Then the annoying messages will go away . As for the bookmarks, I got no ideas
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Use ES
explorer with root and writeable permissions go into "/system/app/" look for phone.apk, then rename to "phone.bak" it will say to force close like crazy, reboot into recovery wipe battery stats should take care of it.
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Well currently upgraded to Taboonay 2.1 and you dont have to edit your build.prop or rename anything.
Its already been set for A500. If you own A501, i believe there is option to set WIFI/3G in Tabootools