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I think its time to create an official warning about upgrading using Kies

Over the past week I have helped 3 people that have had there phones messed up by the updating process of Kies. Thankfully they was all recoverable, but I actually think it won't be long before we see bricks using this software;+( So be careful guys, use Odin whenever you can
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Sent from my Samsung Galactic Crusader S II

I update using Kies and it went fine, don't have any other software on my laptop.
How do you mind explaining ?

Gavin.csy said:
I update using Kies and it went fine, don't have any other software on my laptop.
How do you mind explaining ?
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Well its been kicking phones out mid flash, if this happens while flashing the radio segment, its a dead phone:/
If you check intratechs thread in the dev section it will show you a better and safer method through Odin. Plus you will have the advantages of getting roms earlier sometimes
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Sent from my Samsung Galactic Crusader S II

JupiterdroidXDA said:
Well its been kicking phones out mid flash, if this happens while flashing the radio segment, its a dead phone:/
If you check intratechs thread in the dev section it will show you a better and safer method through Odin. Plus you will have the advantages of getting roms earlier sometimes
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are we talking about unnoficial flashes or official flashes? if it bricks with kies wont samsung be forced to replace my bricked phone?

typical "user error"

TheWarKeeper said:
are we talking about unnoficial flashes or official flashes? if it bricks with kies wont samsung be forced to replace my bricked phone?
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Yes they have in the past on SGS 1 or at least fixed the phone FOC .
Plus a bricked phone is very rare on SGS flash stock rom through Odin cures 99% .
Dead radio just flash a new Modem through Odin .
jje

JJEgan said:
Yes they have in the past on SGS 1 or at least fixed the phone FOC .
Plus a bricked phone is very rare on SGS flash stock rom through Odin cures 99% .
Dead radio just flash a new Modem through Odin .
jje
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ok thanks for the info

JJEgan said:
Yes they have in the past on SGS 1 or at least fixed the phone FOC .
Plus a bricked phone is very rare on SGS flash stock rom through Odin cures 99% .
Dead radio just flash a new Modem through Odin .
jje
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If the radio has been partially flashed and stopped mid flash i think that corrupts the baseband with no return. I remember that the only real way to brick a Nexus was to stop the flash process while the baseband was being wrote to.
And yes samsung would be obliged to give you a new phone or repair the damage caused if Kies is the culprit

Yeh kies is not very good, I've had many time outs.
If you are worried about flashing via odin don't be you can get official Rom to flash via odin.
They are Roms that Samsung has releases .
Read the simple instructions and flash via odin, once you do it one you will see how easy it is
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Random mate but where did you go on twitter? Lol
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I can't help but wondering how on earth someone manages to mess up a Kies update?
Unless they are running some custom rom/kernel...or somehow have a running process that interferes with kies during the update.
I have never had a problem updating through kies from official firmware.
So I am a bit puzzled when I hear this...

Yes, thanks a lot for creating this thread. Kies has been suffering in the firmware upgrade issue for a long time now. It is time for solving the issue with sincere urgency.
SHAME ON SAMSUNG.
Regards.

Yeah u r right,,,kies dont even work anymore,,,whenever i try to update,it just download the firmware and just before the flashing process a message pop up saying "FirmwareUpdate has been stopped",,,its damn irritating,,,i guess it doesnt work on Win 7...
But i wanted to ask something for a while,,,i see some people here are just "obsessed" with flashing firmwares and roms now and then ,,,,i wonder that isnt it a bit tiring to install all those apps again and again,,i mean i know google restores ur apps,,,but what about those which are ummm cracked?? (i kinda have alot of cracked games i bought only a few)...
Atleast with a Kies update all ur apps remain secure...

jimbiye said:
I can't help but wondering how on earth someone manages to mess up a Kies update?
Unless they are running some custom rom/kernel...or somehow have a running process that interferes with kies during the update.
I have never had a problem updating through kies from official firmware.
So I am a bit puzzled when I hear this...
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Kies from day one has been unreliable for a number of reasons mostly not user problems .
For starters its driver setup and use has always been poor .
Its connection setup is not robust likewise its failure to recover from broken downloads .
Kies in a nutshell does not recover from errors and is error prone even for the most advanced users .
jje

guitarmafia said:
Yeah u r right,,,kies dont even work anymore,,,whenever i try to update,it just download the firmware and just before the flashing process a message pop up saying "FirmwareUpdate has been stopped",,,its damn irritating,,,i guess it doesnt work on Win 7...
But i wanted to ask something for a while,,,i see some people here are just "obsessed" with flashing firmwares and roms now and then ,,,,i wonder that isnt it a bit tiring to install all those apps again and again,,i mean i know google restores ur apps,,,but what about those which are ummm cracked?? (i kinda have alot of cracked games i bought only a few)...
Atleast with a Kies update all ur apps remain secure...
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As we on XDA support the Devs and do not rip them off we do not have cracked software .
jje

jimbiye said:
I can't help but wondering how on earth someone manages to mess up a Kies update?
Unless they are running some custom rom/kernel...or somehow have a running process that interferes with kies during the update.
I have never had a problem updating through kies from official firmware.
So I am a bit puzzled when I hear this...
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It's just a matter of bad luck. It can happen, and maybe it'll happen to you one day. You can't always blame this on the user. Like for example, there's a power blackout in the middle of a flash and your computer suddenly turns off. Nothing you can do about it, yet you're screwed.
Kies is like that, it's a not a completely safe piece of sofware. Even flashing the bios on a computer isn't. Thing is, Odin allows you to flash official firmwares and is generally safer. There's no real reason to prefer Kies over Odin.

on your phone, go Setting:
About phone --> Software update -->Check for update
that got my phone updated to KF4(1st try).. tired with kies but no luck(2-3 hrs+ many dl errors)

Guitarfreak26 said:
Random mate but where did you go on twitter? Lol
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Hi mate,
Yeah i was under the cosh at uni and soooo busy, deleted my profile on here too, only just reactivated...
At the time i was dicing between turning to the dark side so i thought i would not need my XDA account anymore

JupiterdroidXDA said:
Hi mate,
Yeah i was under the cosh at uni and soooo busy, deleted my profile on here too, only just reactivated...
At the time i was dicing between turning to the dark side so i thought i would not need my XDA account anymore
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Glad you didnt! Galaxy2 is a great device

JupiterdroidXDA said:
At the time i was dicing between turning to the dark side so i thought i would not need my XDA account anymore
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I can smell the apple all over you

Need advice - PDA/PHONE/CSC?

Hi there!
As 2.3.4 was released, I have some questions..
My phone is unbranded and I live in the Netherlands.
1) If I flash PDA/Phone/CSC from the 2.3.4 package, will it screw up the phone?
2) How do I fully format the phone? (I prefer when re-flashing)
Thanks in advance!

ErnstJanF said:
Hi there!
As 2.3.4 was released, I have some questions..
My phone is unbranded and I live in the Netherlands.
1) If I flash PDA/Phone/CSC from the 2.3.4 package, will it screw up the phone?
2) How do I fully format the phone? (I prefer when re-flashing)
Thanks in advance!
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I think the 2.3.4 is not packaged as a .tar its three files. Put the low file in PDA, the csc file in csc and the remaining file in phone then flash. After flashing it will reboot automatically, it will erase data to so back up do not do anything with the. Pit, throw the. Pit file away...
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Sent from my Samsung Galactic Crusader S II

Thanks! Have done so, but now it said 'CSC' successfully applied as 'KOR'?

ErnstJanF said:
Thanks! Have done so, but now it said 'CSC' successfully applied as 'KOR'?
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If it works dont worry too much about the CSC. I have not even checked mine to see what im running Only worry if your using Kies and you like to update through Kies.
If you use the fantastic odin there is no need to worry But when 2.3.4 is released properly for your region install the proper rom then There are guides to restore your CSC in the dev section under debrand and rebrand...
I think all you have to do is hold down power button, up volume and the home button at the same time andrestore factory settings once on the rom of choice

ErnstJanF said:
Thanks! Have done so, but now it said 'CSC' successfully applied as 'KOR'?
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Hi,
Fire up the dialer and enter *#272*YOUR_IMEI_HERE#
Then on the upcoming screen you can change it.
Regards

to put the 3 files I9100XXKG1 2.3.4 on odin here it is a photo how u doit mate

JupiterdroidXDA said:
If it works dont worry too much about the CSC.
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Well this is a problem because not all Samsung services(like samsung hub) are available in all countries

JupiterdroidXDA said:
If it works dont worry too much about the CSC. I have not even checked mine to see what im running Only worry if your using Kies and you like to update through Kies.
If you use the fantastic odin there is no need to worry But when 2.3.4 is released properly for your region install the proper rom then There are guides to restore your CSC in the dev section under debrand and rebrand...
I think all you have to do is hold down power button, up volume and the home button at the same time andrestore factory settings once on the rom of choice
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and once angain with your "odin is da best".
It's time for you to understand that for many users , Kies is simple .
Odin is a nice tool and I use it a lot, but it was never intended for us End-users originally.
And it's way more easier to mess your phone with it than failling with kies when you are a first time SGS user.
This said :
Csc is used by google market mainly(with a KOR CSC you will see a lot of korean apps while searching for apps, for example).
and if i'm not wrong, for available language in Swipe too.

Need More Info With i9505XXUAMCL

hi , i just bought an S4 ( GT i9505 ) but the firmware installed on it seems kinda weird .. i can't find it online , the only thing i've found so far is that when people try flashing other ROMs from this firmware , it fails on the MODEM .. i nees more help regarding this ROM ..
MODEL NUMBER : GT-I9505
ANDROID VERSION : 4.2.2
BASEBAND VERSION : I9505DXUAMCL
KERNEL VERSION : 3.4
BUILD NUMBER : JDQ39.I9505XXUAMCL
please help i haven't tried flashing yet a new rom , since my internet is really slow , downloading 1.4GB file takes a day and some hours ..
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So what is your question actually? I can't figure it out what you are trying to ask...

Lennyz1988 said:
So what is your question actually? I can't figure it out what you are trying to ask...
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what i wanted to know is that , is the S4 i bought legit ? i mean in my place there are lots of S4 clones , but what makes this different is that clones in my place use exynos quad cores , but this S4 i have right here has a snapdragon and 1.89 ghz krait something ..
plus i wanted to know more about it's version , as i can't OTA update , says it's custom , i'm not even rooted and everything is stock ..

Haha your title says need more info, well It would help if you provide more info for us to work out if you have fake or not,
Goto menu ➡settings ➡device ➡ about device and either provide a screen shot or write all the information there.
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Lennyz1988 said:
So what is your question actually? I can't figure it out what you are trying to ask...
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ranger4740 said:
Haha your title says need more info, well I'd would help if you provide more info for us to work out if you have fake or not,
Goto menu ➡settings ➡device ➡ about device and either provide a screen shot or write all the information there.
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attached two screenshots , one from cpu z and another from settings

Thanks.
From what I can see it looks legit
Galaxy S4 GT-I9505.
however I don't know what country the CSC would be.
My guess is its Indian phone
I can only find xxuamdk so with yours xxuamcl the "uam" sounds like indian.
My guess is your download is corrupt you said you have slow internet which is my clue.
I'm guessing if you get the uamdk and flash in Odin it should work.
My strong advice is if you want to root and go custom don't go for the current 4.3 with Knox boot loader.
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ranger4740 said:
Thanks.
From what I can see it looks legit
Galaxy S4 GT-I9505.
however I don't know what country the CSC would be.
My guess is its Indian phone
I can only find xxuamdk so with yours xxuamcl the "uam" sounds like indian.
My guess is your download is corrupt you said you have slow internet which is my clue.
I'm guessing if you get the uamdk and flash in Odin it should work.
My strong advice is if you want to root and go custom don't go for the current 4.3 with Knox boot loader.
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thanks for that info , atleast i feel fine now , knowing my 17,000 PHP did not go to some S4 clone ..
it might take me two to three days to update though .. is it safe to use the I9505XXUDMH8-PRE-ROOTED-KNOX_FREE-ODEX-FULL 4.3 rom ?

hwalalufazey said:
thanks for that info , atleast i feel fine now , knowing my 17,000 PHP did not go to some S4 clone ..
it might take me two to three days to update though .. is it safe to use the I9505XXUDMH8-PRE-ROOTED-KNOX_FREE-ODEX-FULL 4.3 rom ?
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I don't know for sure as Ive only just started down the custom ROM track with SG4, it's best to fully read all the info in the thread and understand what your reading, I am still on a learning curve myself and dont yet fully understand all the samsung methods (came from htc legend and DHD)
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ranger4740 said:
I don't know for sure as Ive only just started down the custom ROM track with SG4, it's best to fully read all the info in the thread and understand what your reading, I am still on a learning curve myself and dont yet fully understand all the samsung methods (came from htc legend and DHD)
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thanks for everything will post updates on what will happen .. it takes days to download the goddamn firmware .. lol ..

Yes please let's us know how you go mate
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hwalalufazey said:
thanks for that info , atleast i feel fine now , knowing my 17,000 PHP did not go to some S4 clone ..
it might take me two to three days to update though .. is it safe to use the I9505XXUDMH8-PRE-ROOTED-KNOX_FREE-ODEX-FULL 4.3 rom ?
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First read and learn what Knox is and what it does. Then decide if you even want Knox on your phone. If you don't want it, stay away from that firmware you mention. Stay away from all official firmwares. Then you can only flash custom roms. That rom is Knox free, but it still contains the updated bootloader (correct me if i'm wrong).

no luck with flashing , i tried using 4.2.2 from brazil , it fails on odin , i tried repartitioning with a pit file , it says secure check fail : pit , oh my what should i do this is pretty messed up :/

hwalalufazey said:
no luck with flashing , i tried using 4.2.2 from brazil , it fails on odin , i tried repartitioning with a pit file , it says secure check fail : pit , oh my what should i do this is pretty messed up :/
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Your very lucky that pit file has checks, you need to do a lot more reading about Samsung methods before messing around anymore with your phone, if you had have read up on what pit file is you would have found out NOT to go messing with that, its ment for advanced persons who know what they are doing and can be very big problem if you make error.
You asked what to do, well my friend all I can say is read read read and understand fully what you are actually reading.
I am quite advanced with HTC phones but these Samsung's are a different animal and I'm not fully understanding yet...
So please don't mess with your phone unless you know what it is your actually doing. I say this cause I have no idea why you are trying to use pit file to flash ROM.
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hwalalufazey said:
no luck with flashing , i tried using 4.2.2 from brazil , it fails on odin , i tried repartitioning with a pit file , it says secure check fail : pit , oh my what should i do this is pretty messed up :/
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To be honest to you ... if your pricey device turns into a cheap brick, it's your own fault

hwalalufazey said:
no luck with flashing , i tried using 4.2.2 from brazil , it fails on odin , i tried repartitioning with a pit file , it says secure check fail : pit , oh my what should i do this is pretty messed up :/
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Did you update the phone? I have same exact phone and I can't find firmware for it.

[Q] cant unbirck help please

so my friend download an app and didn't read anything about it before he installed the app. The app was suppose to replace the home launcher but he was suppose to install another app before he installed it but he didn't. I have tried Odin, Kies, and Heimdall with no luck. I have tried them on different computers and with different cables. His phone is a SGH-I337, yes it is rooted but only for one app that was installed that doesn't affect anything. But now it only go to the download screen with the android man even when booted up normally it only fails the [auth] on Odin and it wouldn't even connect to Kies. Any help would be GREAT, he is only giving me 2 day to try and fix it for him then he is going to buy a new phone. Thanks in advance EVEN IF ITS JUST GUESS I'll still give it a try.

What app did you try to install and what firmware are you on. Odin should work if you use the right firmware.
Sent from my Nexus 5

If the phone is running either the MK2 or MF3 baseband then my thread here may be able to help you. Check ted77usa's post (the last reply on the first page) for how I fixed my phone.

jd1639 said:
What app did you try to install and what firmware are you on. Odin should work if you use the right firmware.
Sent from my Nexus 5
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I dont remember what app he tried to install, only that it was suppose to change his home screen. As far as what firnware he is on I have no clue cause I have no way to find out and he is no help hell he doesnt know the his ass from a hole in the ground when i ask him.

joshuadrivin said:
I dont remember what app he tried to install, only that it was suppose to change his home screen. As far as what firnware he is on I have no clue cause I have no way to find out and he is no help hell he doesnt know the his ass from a hole in the ground when i ask him.
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I would start with the mf3 tar files in odin. If they don't work try the mk2 tar file
Sent from my Nexus 5

JTrocks said:
If the phone is running either the MK2 or MF3 baseband then my thread here may be able to help you. Check ted77usa's post (the last reply on the first page) for how I fixed my phone.
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thanks im downloading his files now but im at a crappy hotel so its going to take over an hour ill let u know how it goes, u never know u couldve just saved him $200 :highfive:

jd1639 said:
I would start with the mf3 tar files in odin. If they don't work try the mk2 tar file
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correct me if I'm but cant i just run the mk2 no matter what firmware he is on, doesnt it supersede the others

joshuadrivin said:
correct me if I'm but cant i just run the mk2 no matter what firmware he is on, doesnt it supersede the others
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Yes, but he'll have less options in flashing roms if he's interested in that. Otherwise just flash the mk2
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jd1639 said:
Yes, but he'll have less options in flashing roms if he's interested in that. Otherwise just flash the mk2
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he not like me, he doesnt flash roms. im hoping the file JTrocks posed about will finally work on his phone cause so far i have tried 5 others and they all fail in the same spot, i dont know if it has anything to do with the fact that his phone has best buys security on it

joshuadrivin said:
he not like me, he doesnt flash roms. im hoping the file JTrocks posed about will finally work on his phone cause so far i have tried 5 others and they all fail in the same spot, i dont know if it has anything to do with the fact that his phone has best buys security on it
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Never heard of best buys security. Worst comes to worse you could take it to a best buy with a Samsung experience and they can flash it.
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jd1639 said:
Never heard of best buys security. Worst comes to worse you could take it to a best buy with a Samsung experience and they can flash it.
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I actually tried that and they couldnt fix it surprisingly

joshuadrivin said:
I actually tried that and they couldnt fix it surprisingly
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That's not a good sign.
Sent from my Nexus 5

JTrocks said:
If the phone is running either the MK2 or MF3 baseband then my thread here may be able to help you. Check ted77usa's post (the last reply on the first page) for how I fixed my phone.
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It worked like a charm thank you sir, i ended up fixing his phone just in time for breakfest so thanks to you i get free food this morning :laugh: but really thanks alot!!!!!!!!!!!

Glad you got it working
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Glad you got it working
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thanks and if i end up seeing someone else with that best buy security ill post it on hear and tag you so you will know what i was talking about

joshuadrivin said:
It worked like a charm thank you sir, i ended up fixing his phone just in time for breakfest so thanks to you i get free food this morning :laugh: but really thanks alot!!!!!!!!!!!
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@joshuadrivin Glad that u fixed your friend phone on time for breakfast.....:good:.....u know why? i can see that u got a lot of help in here. @jd1639 saw your sig NEXUS 5 now? are u still have your S4? @JTrocks great job on giving good direction ......:good::good:

Attempted U firmware

So I attempted the steps located here.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ve...de-flashing-sm-935u-firmware-verizon-t3415145
It won't seem to install using either ODIN. Now it won't boot to OS. It will boot to recovery and I can still boot do downloading but I cannot get it to work. I know I didn't do anything wrong... the steps are very simple.

shouthouse said:
So I attempted the steps located here.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ve...de-flashing-sm-935u-firmware-verizon-t3415145
It won't seem to install using either ODIN. Now it won't boot to OS. It will boot to recovery and I can still boot do downloading but I cannot get it to work. I know I didn't do anything wrong... the steps are very simple.
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Only way someone can help is if you list out the steps you took and the files that you used. Did you do a factory reset before pushing the files via Odin? Which files did you upload to Odin? Did Odin give you any errors?

What build were you on prior to flashing with Odin? I have a strong feeling that you are getting errors by flashing an older version of the U-firmware onto a newer version of V firmware, hence why Odin won't flash it. The link you sent is for PEH, which is fairly old IIRC. Were you on Verizon PI3 before attempting this?

You are probably partly right about the older firmware. The steps didn't really include information that seems updated. Right before I went to bed I was able to get it working. It seems that the phone did not like 4 of my cables. Finally it worked with a really tiny cable I found. Whew. Haha sorry I should have revised this. Is there any way for me to flag it as completed?
TheBigEasy88 said:
Only way someone can help is if you list out the steps you took and the files that you used. Did you do a factory reset before pushing the files via Odin? Which files did you upload to Odin? Did Odin give you any errors?
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I'm not sure if you actually read that post but the person after you seemed to have been able to understand exactly what was going on. The post I linked had the steps.

shouthouse said:
You are probably partly right about the older firmware. The steps didn't really include information that seems updated. Right before I went to bed I was able to get it working. It seems that the phone did not like 4 of my cables. Finally it worked with a really tiny cable I found. Whew. Haha sorry I should have revised this. Is there any way for me to flag it as completed?
I'm not sure if you actually read that post but the person after you seemed to have been able to understand exactly what was going on. The post I linked had the steps.
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Glad you got it to work. BTW that thread is still 100% fine, just the link to the firmware is old. HERE is the link to the newest U firmware that I recommend flashing, in case you care or wanted it.

FoxyDrew said:
Glad you got it to work. BTW that thread is still 100% fine, just the link to the firmware is old. HERE is the link to the newest U firmware that I recommend flashing, in case you care or wanted it.
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Oh yea for sure! The steps worked! Only issue was just that since the link is to the old firmware (and it says nothing about new firmware) I had to go looking for the answer, you have provided, during a state of mild panic. LOL I think we've all been there.

Is that a nougat U rom?
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kingamra said:
Is that a nougat U rom?
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No

shouthouse said:
No
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How's it been working so far?
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Incredible. Leagues ahead of the Verizon firmware. I am on TMOBILE now and I couldn't be happier. So much less bloat to turn off. The speed of apps are even faster. Just feels lighter.

shouthouse,
So you flashed G-935U on your G-935V and put it on T-moblie? Have you unlocked the better bands? I'm on T-mobile and looking to do the same for my G-935V and my wife's G-900V (once I find those instructions). Thanks in advance.