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[Q] Is the Xperia Play worth Getting?

I am very hesitant in getting that phone, I've heard alot of good things and alot of bad things
I've seen specs and I've seen reviews, but I want to know people's personal opinion as they have the phone for full everyday use and not just reviewing it.
Is it worth it?

My advice do not go for it,you have better options for the same price.even if you are into gaming do not go for it...you can wait for NGP later and get dual core mobile now like galaxy s2/sensation/optimus 2x

I say go for it 4 sure. If you're like me who loves Zelda OOT, buy it! There is nothing like sitting on the subway while kids are playing their angry birds on their iphone while you sit there with your play and play Zelda or tekken 2 It's totally worth it!
everyday phone? Oh yeah! It works great!
Don't listen to that guy talking about dual core. You don't need it on a phone!! seriously, WHY would you need dual core? Everything i've tried on my play works like a charm!

jassired said:
My advice do not go for it,you have better options for the same price.even if you are into gaming do not go for it...you can wait for NGP later and get dual core mobile now like galaxy s2/sensation/optimus 2x
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Yeah, get a dual core mobile now so you can play the exact same games you can play on the Xperia Play, only with worse controls and worse battery life.
Then get an NGP later so you can carry around two devices for ultimate portability!

hairdewx said:
Yeah, get a dual core mobile now so you can play the exact same games you can play on the Xperia Play, only with worse controls and worse battery life.
Then get an NGP later so you can carry around two devices for ultimate portability!
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that was exactly what i meant haaha +1

^^^ I'm being sarcastic in my last post, in case the OP didn't catch that.
I'm very happy with my Play as a gaming phone and everyday phone. My wife has a Droid 3, and there isn't much difference at all, if any, in app performance and daily phone use. I have much better battery life as well. She has a better camera Maybe eventually apps will start taking advantage of multiple cores, but it's going to be a while.
You can't play this game on a touch screen very well...

Yourmama said:
I am very hesitant in getting that phone, I've heard alot of good things and alot of bad things
I've seen specs and I've seen reviews, but I want to know people's personal opinion as they have the phone for full everyday use and not just reviewing it.
Is it worth it?
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It is very simple. How much do you value playing both Android-native and emulated games against the rest of features in a phone? If you really want to play games in a phone, this is your device.
If you don't value playing games over dual core CPUs, slick designs, gorgeous screens and feature-rich cameras, you're not the target for this device. It has a very specific niche, which Sony Ericsson has spent millions in digging out. It's a love-it-or-hate-it product, with little middle ground.
Oh, and it has an astonishingly precise GPS.

There are bad points about this phone but show me a perfect phone.
The best 2 things about this phone are obviously the control pad for 1 and the battery life, which has amazed me so far.
The only thing that I find annoying is the lack of decent games taking advantage of what is a great phone.
But I have to say I have started using emulators and they are quality, n64oid and fpse especially.
So to sum up its a great mix up between a gaming device and a smart phone. It is let down on the development side.
It all just depends on what you want if you like gaming I dont think you will be let down in purchasing this phone
Thats my two pennies anyway
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I have an xperia play and a few of my mates have dual core phones (SGS2, Optimus x2 e.t.c). I would not swap the Xplay for any of them.
As hairdewx has shown if you plan on playing anything with FPSE or emulators it is pointless on anything other than an xplay. The emulators alones let you play thousands of games with proper controls (makes it a 1000x better)
The speakers are the best on any phone. And the battery life is amazing to say this is a gaming device. Just using it as a normal phone it is as good as the rest.
I would recommend you get this phone. I think it will be hard for me to upgrade to a newer phone @ the end of my contract, unless it has proper gaming controls . (Xplay 2 hopefully)

Thanks guys I don't know I just might get it the only setback was the lack of an HD screen and the core issue but seems that the people who have the phone are enjoying it, I will see

Just wanted to give a perspective from someone who just bought the phone yesterday.
Waiting in the Verizon store I got the chance to mess with a few other phones. I actually played a couple games on some as well and just took an overall look. So to start lets forget the coolness of the control pad, and also that IMO playing games with motion/touch controls aside from something designed for it like Angry Birds absolutely sucks. Its why I seriously have not been into mobile gaming until now and I'm a big gamer. Just can't stand those controls.
Most of these new 4G dual core phones are huge. Seriously I was playing with one of the new 4G phones and the damn thing was like a doormat it was so big. Meanwhile the Xperia Play dimensionally is almost identical to my OG Droid, but space wise is designed better so that the 4" screen pushes to almost the edges of the device which uses space very well. Fits in my pocket WAY better than those 4G devices with a screen thats only 0.3" smaller.
Next up is speed. The OS is just as responsive on the Play as any of the 4G devices, I'm honestly not sure how much a dual core processor can help on a cellphone especially for normal every day tasks, with an OS that while multitasking, is not like a PC where you can physically have 2+ windows on screen at once. The way Android prioritizes memory, if you are using multiple apps at once, I just don't see there being a possibility of an everyday advantage. Needless to say, touch them side by side, there is NO difference in speed. Which brings me to games. I played a couple on the newer devices, they looked and played the same as on the Play, no faster, no better graphics, no nothing.
Finally would be features, ok so the camera is ok but not as good, 4G where available, is REALLY fast so thats nice as well and if you're in an area its common, and you have a need for that kind of speed, well then its something you should consider. And HDMI out, not on the Play. I personally have no use for it but if you do then theres another loss. So this comes to opinion - IMO the camera is good enough, it does the job, its a cell phone not a Canon. 4G? I live in the NY metro area basically where 4G service should be mostly available but its spotty, meanwhile WiFi is everywhere, and everywhere I'd sit and use it I have WiFi (my home, my folks house, my firehouse etc), when I travel I book hotels that have free WiFi, also my ISP provides open WiFi in many areas. Also I have no shame I use peoples open WiFi signals if I have to, so honestly I don't miss the speed there. 3G really isn't THAT bad either, however its a compromise, and I'm sure outside of this area it could be a problem for some. Then HDMI out, I bet I'd try it out for a novelty but I'd probably never use it. I have a PS3, I watch movies on my big screen from that or my PC with HDMI out.
And 2 things I've said above become an advantage for the Play, no 4G and no Dual core = better battery life.
So all in all I don't for a second regret the purchase, you get 95% of the performance of a 4G phone, with the advantage of better battery life, and the completely awesome built in control pad. If you want to game, its a no brainer.

When I saw the title of the thread I opened it to give my opinion about this phone. But when I read the previous answers, all that I wanted to say had already been said, so I gave up writing a big text because I don't have anything new to say!
Then I'll only say that it's an awesome phone, buy it without any fear, you won't regret it.

_terror_ said:
If you're like me who loves Zelda OOT, buy it! There is nothing like sitting on the subway while kids are playing their angry birds on their iphone while you sit there with your play and play Zelda or tekken 2 It's totally worth it!
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WTF! did you get a stable enough N64 emu (not to mention enough ram to run the rom) I have a GBA SNES NES GameGear and Genesis, but i cant find a good (preferably free at least till applanets back up) 64emu anywhere....and how are you running tekken two though all the psx emus crash cause of sony releasing this phone....oh and as long as you plan to plug the thing in everynight for like 8 hours (although 2.3.3 update fixes that a small amount if you dont game or browse or call or well pretty much emulate any sort of energy from it) than dont buy this phone really takes a commitment, i hate that i bought it then found out motorolla is releasing the droid 3(name changes between SP's) with HDMI out 1Ghz process 8mp cam rear and ii believie dont quote 3.2 front (might have been 2.3 or somewhere goin on memory of specs) THAT IS THE PHONE YOU WANT IF YOU ARE STILL LOOKING but release does depend on SP Bell got it first! havent folllowed up on it much just pisses me off that i bought a damn sony product over a 3ds.......oh and sorry if i repeated anyfacts

It is my favorite device. I just put in 2 hours of Beyond the Beyond without any awful on screen controls or bluetooth shenanigans.
Sound quality is spectacular too, as is the battery life.
The only thing that could use some improvement is the camera.
If you enjoy games more than just casually and really enjoy emulation, there is no other real option IMHO.
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KronikonE said:
WTF! did you get a stable enough N64 emu (not to mention enough ram to run the rom) I have a GBA SNES NES GameGear and Genesis, but i cant find a good (preferably free at least till applanets back up) 64emu anywhere....and how are you running tekken two though all the psx emus crash cause of sony releasing this phone....oh and as long as you plan to plug the thing in everynight for like 8 hours (although 2.3.3 update fixes that a small amount if you dont game or browse or call or well pretty much emulate any sort of energy from it) than dont buy this phone really takes a commitment, i hate that i bought it then found out motorolla is releasing the droid 3(name changes between SP's) with HDMI out 1Ghz process 8mp cam rear and ii believie dont quote 3.2 front (might have been 2.3 or somewhere goin on memory of specs) THAT IS THE PHONE YOU WANT IF YOU ARE STILL LOOKING but release does depend on SP Bell got it first! havent folllowed up on it much just pisses me off that i bought a damn sony product over a 3ds.......oh and sorry if i repeated anyfacts
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N64oid v2 runs alot of roms pretty perfect now, and fpse eats tekken alive, infact i havent found one ps1 rom it dosent run pefectly

jdsemler said:
Sound quality is spectacular too, as is the battery life.
The only thing that could use some improvement is the camera.
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K Sound Agreed, Battery however i would like to know what miracle device you are using to keep it powered cause even with the 2.3.3 update which i wont le improved battery life significantly, i dont find its able to keep up with the demand especially noticable when streaming data i.e. skyFM or TuneInRadio(awsome app by the way for a phone with no FM reciever any radio station you could imagine....from all 7 contenent...yes there is a sat radio station based in antarctica for the 12 people that are ever there at one time, sheesh im Canadian and i say no thanks to that lol sorry off topic tired and ranting), and camera is decent quality 5.0mp front is only1.2 so self portraits are a little grainy i find, but none the less i have to agreee it could use more features to the actual cam its self

AndroHero said:
N64oid v2 runs alot of roms pretty perfect now, and fpse eats tekken alive, infact i havent found one ps1 rom it dosent run pefectly
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didnt know N64oid v2 was out thanks!, and as for the ps one emu i think i might just steal whatever games they release seeing as i pretty much bought a psone in a phone seems a little redundant to download a program on top of that....just cant wait to see if they find a way to release FFVII and VIII to the phone

Just get an android phone you like
to the guy who started this thread truely you just want an android phone PERIOD with it dominating over 50% of the smart phone generation other companies are trying to figure a way to eat a piece of googles pie....ie rumors which are now apparently confimed (which i havent seen first hand knowledge) but the iPhone 5(BOOO) is set to release with BBM installed, and we all know android with get it first probably for free with some sort if ad support....its like comparing a PS3 to Xbox360 its just not necessary 360 wins in every department like android.(minus blueray but you can obvi get a cheap one of those now to make up for it)

Anyone interested
found a decent site on app creation for android....vogella.de/articles/Android/article.html
sorry bout not making it a link apparently i havent posted enough for our Naziesq forum rules

KronikonE said:
to the guy who started this thread truely you just want an android phone PERIOD with it dominating over 50% of the smart phone generation other companies are trying to figure a way to eat a piece of googles pie....ie rumors which are now apparently confimed (which i havent seen first hand knowledge) but the iPhone 5(BOOO) is set to release with BBM installed, and we all know android with get it first probably for free with some sort if ad support....its like comparing a PS3 to Xbox360 its just not necessary 360 wins in every department like android.(minus blueray but you can obvi get a cheap one of those now to make up for it)
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Haven't you pissed on this guy's thread enough? Then you come into a forum with people who are obvious playstation and Sony fans and say the Xbox360 "wins in every department" which is so untrue its not even funny but I'm not getting into that flame war here.
You don't seem to like the phone much, and you don't seem to like PS much, door is to the left, go buy another phone then.

why this huge price-cut?

this is starting to get absurd.
At first i thought that it was just Expansys who went crazy and lowered the price THAT much, i figured they made a mistake ordering hundreds of the device and couldn't sell them so had to resort to drop to ridiculous prices or whatever the heck can happen when an (non)internet shop make mistakes.
But now it's like 3-4 other internet shops are going for more or less that price, never heard before of a 500 euro smartphone sold by so many shops at less than half price like this.
Nothing just happen without a reason, there's always at last 1 reason why this phone got his price slashed like this, and thinking about it, ok it didn't sold THAT much but it had some kind of a cult following... and being honest, this handset has practically the same hardware as the Arc, beside the exmor-whatever camera, but not only that, just check at whatever other android phone of more or less 200 euros, the Play clearly is way, way better than them...
Again, i wonder what's the meaning behind this insane price cut.
I'm currently an X10 user and i love it, but being a huge retro-gaming geek, i'm selling it for 180 euros (and friends of mine says it's cheap) and bought a 240 euro Xperia play waiting for it to arrive (damned expansys delayed shipping to next week).
Hope i did the right thing and this SEXplay will not crumble and turn into dust in the first 5 days of usage or sad things like that.

i don't know but i bought my phone May this year for 5000HKD (around 650USD) and now that it is released in my country they sell it for around 450USD at Sony Ericsson concept shops. i don't know the reason for the very low price but heck isn't that great?
i still go for the reason that it didn't sell well that's why they're selling it for a very low price.. besides, they need consumers to buy it fast because of the imminent release of the PlayStation Suite which will further increase their sales..

Well, most of the good games are just boring Gameloft ports.
The SexPlay is a great phone, with basically zero exclusive software support for it.
If you buy this phone for anything else other than emulation, you are basically wasting your time imho.

Like you did?
dsswoosh said:
Well, most of the good games are just boring Gameloft ports.
The SexPlay is a great phone, with basically zero exclusive software support for it.
If you buy this phone for anything else other than emulation, you are basically wasting your time imho.
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Cat_On_Droid said:
Like you did?
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I didnt buy it for anything else other than emulation whilst being bored at work. (I use it as my main phone too ofc).
The free EA games are boring imo. As are most Gameloft games. The only other game i REALLY enjoy is the online texas poker.
The DPad is really nice to use whilst browsing the internet. The analog joysticks are not for me, i personally dont enjoy using them.
The reason why im mostly disapointed with the SexPlay is because there is no MAME emulator that has working save states. Without save states, mame is useless to me at work.
So yea, i have had a good time with the SexPlay, but im now of the opinion that i wont be buying another game phone. Especially not now that i have just bought a brand new laptop and can play proper mame at work on a nice big 17.5 inch screen with my xbox control pad.
I do wish the SexPlay continued success though, its just that it has outlived my pocket and i am eagerly awaiting my next phone upgrade. Glad that i only got an 18 month contract because it runs out in less than a year now.
Ive also had lots of prpoblems with my SexPlay -
1) Poor signal
2) No data signal
3) Volume button fell out
4) Back button doesnt work properly
5) Right shoulder button gone loose
6) Touchscreen goes dowhaddle whack crazy at times
7) Accelerometer doesnt work properly, steers to the left all the time
8) Compass doesnt work properly
And above all........I found out here in Britain we have a network called GiffGaff that runs off the O2 network, and for £10 / month on a PAYG deal you get TRULY unlimited data at "H" speeds.
I bought this simcard to see how it performs, and lets just say i have used close to 50gig this month leaving torrents downloading on my phone...............(wished id never even bought a contract, GiffGaff prices are probably the best in the World).

For me, poor signal and dead signal were cured in 2.3.4 update.
I agree with you xplay is limited, but it was my first smartphone and my expectations were dead low.
I used the XDA App to post this, what did you use?

Apparently there is going to be a Playstation store available for all ps certified devices. And they decided to drop the price so they could make a killing on apps i'm guessing

dsswoosh said:
Well, most of the good games are just boring Gameloft ports.
The SexPlay is a great phone, with basically zero exclusive software support for it.
If you buy this phone for anything else other than emulation, you are basically wasting your time imho.
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You mean until the Playstation Suite launches. I'm quite excited about how that's going to change things. Main reason I decided to go for the XPlay. That and the promise of more PS1 and possibly PSP titles on the way. But the future is looking good for the Xplay if the PS Suite does what Sony says it will.
There's also plenty of good non-gameloft games on the market that have been optimised for the XPlay already.

Am I the only one who likes Xperia PLAY for Xperia PLAY games?
I love my classics, and like to be a nostalgia drunken at times... but for the most part, playing something that actually takes advantage of the hardware (especially that big, beautiful 854x480 screen) is much more appealing than some game I've already played that will either be dis-proportioned, or letterboxed.

i dont know but i dont enjoy emulation at all..

TLRtheory said:
Am I the only one who likes Xperia PLAY for Xperia PLAY games?
I love my classics, and like to be a nostalgia drunken at times... but for the most part, playing something that actually takes advantage of the hardware (especially that big, beautiful 854x480 screen) is much more appealing than some game I've already played that will either be dis-proportioned, or letterboxed.
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I love a lot of the exclusive games but the analog stick control is such a miserable experience for me....regular market apps like pew pew respond better for me
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Cat_On_Droid said:
For me, poor signal and dead signal were cured in 2.3.4 update.
I agree with you xplay is limited, but it was my first smartphone and my expectations were dead low.
I used the XDA App to post this, what did you use?
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I am thinking of getting this as an early upgrade for one of my lines.
If it comes with 2.3.4 installed allready, will I be able to root it?
I just got a DInc II and rooted it the Friday before the 2.3.4 update was forcefeeding around.
LUCKY.
This looks like a great emulator unit.
I hope this price sticks....

These price cuts make me a bit sad like.
I mean, I knew it would come...but it is kinda soon.
I paid £280 for my XPlay, now I can get it for between £180-£200 from very reputable dealers.
Sad.
That being said...yeah, the phone isn't perfect but I do love it.
I like the occasional 'new' game but most are really shallow (looking at you GameLoft), so I stick with what I got the phone for...the thousands of game available emulated.
Emulation has always been and always be my favourite thing, that's why this phone is perfect for me despite the obvious flaws.

agree with the bulk of you.
The only reason i'm getting this phone is because of emulation.
Hell i never ever even took a look at the gameloft or any other android game out there... i think i just played angry birds twice in my life.
I currently have an X10 and i absolutely love it, don't give a crap about dual core or stuff like that, my x10 goes fast and does everything i need it for; except for one thing, that is emulation.
I'd be the happiest person alive to have everything i had with my X10 plus a solid pad and the chance to pop it up any time and delight myself with some good-ol' super mario world
Right now there's another thing that concernes me about the play, dsswoosh was talking about buttons blowing in pieces or malfunctioning... that would suck. One thing i loved about my X10 are the marvelous hardware buttons (hate the softouch ones), that after almost a year of abuse they still work like new..

cac2us said:
I am thinking of getting this as an early upgrade for one of my lines.
If it comes with 2.3.4 installed allready, will I be able to root it?
I just got a DInc II and rooted it the Friday before the 2.3.4 update was forcefeeding around.
LUCKY.
This looks like a great emulator unit.
I hope this price sticks....
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17808767#post17808767

That this phone's strength lies in how well it can emulate anything below Dreamcast is undeniable. I bought it for 400 euro five months ago, now I could buy it for 220 or so... But the loads and loads of games that I've been able to revive and enjoy, and the fun of tinkering around with a new piece of kit (I've been lucky to have been helpful for some devs here), are just priceless.

pelly_jelly said:
Right now there's another thing that concernes me about the play, dsswoosh was talking about buttons blowing in pieces or malfunctioning... that would suck. One thing i loved about my X10 are the marvelous hardware buttons (hate the softouch ones), that after almost a year of abuse they still work like new..
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1) The volume button fell out, but i fixed it with a dab of solvent cement. Other people have reported it falling out aswell.
2) The back button has a fault where when you press it, sometimes it activates, 2 or 3 or even 4 times. This can be highly annoying. If you have 4 tabs opened in a browser and it activates 4 times, they all shut down and the browser exits
The O button can be used as back, so its not a gamebreaker, jut annoying.
3) My right shoulder button has lost springiness and sags a bit. Again, not a gamebreaker, just annoying.
The actual game buttons all work great and are solid after months of use.

TLRtheory said:
Am I the only one who likes Xperia PLAY for Xperia PLAY games?
I love my classics, and like to be a nostalgia drunken at times... but for the most part, playing something that actually takes advantage of the hardware (especially that big, beautiful 854x480 screen) is much more appealing than some game I've already played that will either be dis-proportioned, or letterboxed.
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Yup! I hardly play any retro games on my Play, too busy with modern xperia play optimized games!

For me, its all about emulation. Look at the options before the play : wiz gp2x / canoo : the linex devices that had piecemeal developer support and were a touch complicated to configure/set up. OpenPandora, great if you can wait 1.5 years for delivery, but a bit bulky. <-- I actually received mine about 1 week before the play arrived, now it sits collection dust as I have everything running better on the Xplay.

i traded in my xperia neo for a play,2months ago,been happy so far with the device although i must also admit that the signal handover is total crap..if it goes from 3g to edge it does have 2 seconds of "no service",when you are in a call,the call is dropped..other devices have a much smoother handover,but that was the same with xperia neo..my old iPhone 3g never dropped the signal when it changed the frequencies..
and the price cut i think its just because the play is a niche product,there are far too many people that would love to have a xperia play but consider themself "too old" or too "serious" to carry around a phone with handheld controls( or even the girlfriend says:lol what do you want with this toyphone.-) i hope that this playstation suite has something to offer because all this gameloft clone games and the rest,meh,nothing for me personally with two exceptions:hyperlight is great and reckless getaway
as far as it comes to gaming,i`m a retro gamer,i play only the oldschool games,mainly NEO GEO,i do love the CAVE vertical shooters but theres the problem there are too small on the play because when you switch it to TATE mode,you cant control with the gamepad,when you leave it landscape its too small,so thats a pity..but thats the reason i still keep an old CRT monitor.-)
when i was 12 years old,everyone got a SNES.a friend called me,he was some real anime and manga addict and got a NEO GEO out of an import store,he called me:hey come over,i got a new gaming system etc..i was blasted by the detailed sprites,the huge characters but i thought:"hey thats cool but i`ll stick to my SNES" but after that afternoon seeing the neo geo in action by a friend,i came home playing my loved SNES and thought:**** that,that`s just horrible graphics,i need that NEO GEO thing,it was literally no fun anymore to play SNES.so i traded in my snes with 40games for a neo geo with two games -robo army and sengoku2 .-) later i traded in the neo geo with 6 games for a japanese ps1,14days after it was released in japan..
..and everything that comes after ps1 isn`t exciting to me,in my opinion we are now in the worst decade of gaming ever:arcade is dead-touch gaming took it over,tiny dumb games with "accelerated controls" "movements" or even whole consoles like the Wii,xbox kinect,ps move,all this garbage..and it`s all about the "story" nowadays(who cares,these games are like a book,once you played it theres no point in playing them again,that`s why these ridiculous trophies and gamescore was invented..)or graphics(never liked 3d so much as 2d only exception was the ps1 because it was fresh but i felt after getting a ps2 years later that 3d is just not the way i love games).
and for playing these old games which need a console,a tv and a huge ass controller(neo geo arcade stick anyone?) on a phone in my pocket,everywhere,everytime is just priceless for me,the phone aspect is "soso" but when it comes to gaming,the play just rocks for retro lovers
i think with the price cut many people will buy it as a handheld only..basically its a steal and a no brainer for everyone who is into retro gaming,sure i can hookup a controller to my laptop but theres no way i would do that in spare 30minutes of time or in a train .-) with the xperia play its just slide open,press play,much faster and it`s so great to see all this games on a smaller display they look right,they feel right and they play right even 15-20years later..

Then and Now

This is my opinion about Xperia Play's rise from it's announcement until now.
Then:
Xperia Play was at the time of it's announcement the long-expected "PlayStation Phone", the phone that could also play PSP games. Unfortunately, it wasn't like that, so most of the people who were excited about this phone had lost all their interest. Only a few remained interested in this phone at it's beginning and so it is that XPlay's popularity has been so low on the first three months. At that time it was seen as:
- A phone with the last Android version that time - 2.3.2
- It had just a few optimised games, already known by others
- It had only a PSX game
- A thick phone with a bad design
- It was almost as expensive as iPhone (between $750 and $800)
Now:
Although no one could imagine a phone that was already labeled as a dissapointment could be 10 times better after some months, it changed a lot. At this point I would say to others that you can't even compare XPlay with Vita, because it's far much better. More and more people are becoming interested again and it's popularity is rasing to the top. It was the work of SE company and developers that brought up this phone's popularity and awesomeness. XPlay now has or will have:
- Android 4.0 (upcoming)
- Ability to fully play PC games with OnLive
- Lots of software changes made by SE through updates (like the 720p filming)
- Lots of mods which made our lifes easier made by devs D)
- Ability to play PSX titles through PSXPeria and FPse
- Ability to play PSP and PSX original games through PlayStation Pocket (upcoming)
- Over 200 optimised games
- Some games were for a period of time XPlay only
- The price went down a lot (now it's between $380 and $420)
Also Merry Christmas everyone!

This is true... however I always had faith in the phone getting better.
There were just so many people who were impatient and wanted to throw their toys on release day and have a cry and then sell the phone... Obviously weren't real gamers to begin with.

subcu1ture said:
This is true... however I always had faith in the phone getting better.
There were just so many people who were impatient and wanted to throw their toys on release day and have a cry and then sell the phone... Obviously weren't real gamers to begin with.
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Agreed,while it may not have the "best" hardware,its still a powerful phone with the only PlayStation Certified controls.
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subcu1ture said:
This is true... however I always had faith in the phone getting better.
There were just so many people who were impatient and wanted to throw their toys on release day and have a cry and then sell the phone... Obviously weren't real gamers to begin with.
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But the phone was marketed to them. Sony didn't really try to push it for gamers only. look at the advertising, Kristen Schaal playing two roles, the slogan "Everything you need and the one thing you want"... None of that is designed to appeal to hardcore teen gamers, but to a more adult audience.

To be honest I wasn't disappointed with the phone when it came out, I was just stoked I could beat the first level of Super Mario 3 without wanting to throw my phone in anger.
But like a fine wine it got better with age.

$380? Its going at around €200 in the EU. Got mine for €160 unlocked myself.
Also the phone has flaws, and networks seem to be dropping it. Not worth €500 IMO. Worth €160? Id happily pay €240 for it tbh

shadowninty said:
$380? Its going at around €200 in the EU. Got mine for €160 unlocked myself.
Also the phone has flaws, and networks seem to be dropping it. Not worth €500 IMO. Worth €160? Id happily pay €240 for it tbh
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F$*&ing thanks button....
Dude, show me a perfect phone. It doesn't exist.
The flaws on this phone aren't terrible by any means.

speedyink said:
F$*&ing thanks button....
Dude, show me a perfect phone. It doesn't exist.
The flaws on this phone aren't terrible by any means.
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He hasn't said that..but this phone was never worth five hundred euros. At its current price It's probably the greatest bargain in terms of price-quality alongside with the now defunct Xperia Neo. I'm yet to see a better bang for the buck ratio in any other brand.

speedyink said:
Dude, show me a perfect phone. It doesn't exist.
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The Play is as close as you can get

speedyink said:
F$*&ing thanks button....
Dude, show me a perfect phone. It doesn't exist.
The flaws on this phone aren't terrible by any means.
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Haha, its happened to me before, weird theres no take back eh? Gave you one to make up for it anyway. Yeah no such thing as a perfect phone. And no, the flaws are far from terrible, and its certainly an excellent device
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He hasn't said that..but this phone was never worth five hundred euros. At its current price It's probably the greatest bargain in terms of price-quality alongside with the now defunct Xperia Neo. I'm yet to see a better bang for the buck ratio in any other brand.
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Exactly - it was worth maybe €450 at a push on release. But at the current price, its amazing value, I mean you wouldnt get a Nexus or Desire for that, and they are far worse devices.
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The Play is as close as you can get
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Ah now

shadowninty said:
Haha, its happened to me before, weird theres no take back eh? Gave you one to make up for it anyway. Yeah no such thing as a perfect phone. And no, the flaws are far from terrible, and its certainly an excellent device
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I know right? I've done it a few times now =P. Thanks for the thanks back, heheh.
Its been one of my better phones, that's for sure. Not sure I could trade it up for a non gamepad phone now
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speedyink said:
I know right? I've done it a few times now =P. Thanks for the thanks back, heheh.
Its been one of my better phones, that's for sure. Not sure I could trade it up for a non gamepad phone now
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That's the biggest problem with this phone... What the hell do i upgrade to if they drop the SEX PLAY 2?? I can't play games just with a touch screen anymore lol
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Far as I'm concerned, it is perfect.
I've always wanted a device that's truly all-in-one. I'm talking about something that navigates, plays music, plays movies, sorts/views pictures, checks my e-mail for all my accounts, can stream all sorts of media to and from the device, takes care of all my office needs, records video in HD, allows video chat, social networking, group chats, provides a prime web browsing experience, allows me to check my bank balance, lets me take notes, record lectures, does all the phone basics, allows true voice control, lets me quickly jot down notes, allows easy access to the file system, AND plays games with a sense of tactility, responsiveness and precision... without any kind of ridiculous external controller that must be separately charged, assembled and/or paired.
No other phone or game device does that. None.
This does all that... with smooth operation in everything from games to day-to-day menus, great battery life, various UIs that are so infinite in possibility that I switch them roughly every week, simplicity, enough ability to customize so that the device works itself around me (and not the other way around - hear that Apple iOS?) and a level of consistent competence that makes me wonder if there's any point in a phone stronger than this.
I started off very critical, and this thing has passed at everything I've thrown at it with flying colors. There is absolutely nothing else on the market that does this as well as the Xperia PLAY does. Other solutions bring physical controls to smartphone gaming, but they ALWAYS have **** support outside of emulators... not a single one has over non-emulated 200 games, and not a single one operates without all that pairing nonsense.
I could complain about the 400MB of memory, but with the ADB trick I've hit 183 installs and still haven't taken up enough memory to make it say I'm running out of space. I could complain that it's not a dual-core, but the only people that'd really complain about that are the entry-level G4TV-watching tech-newbies who don't know how a good GPU/RAM can change the tides when processor strength initially looks small... with games like Dead Space running so smoothly, seems like tossing in a stronger processor would be detrimental to the battery life before it actually does anything useful.
So yeah... I'm satisfied

I actually agree. It gained its hype although no one really noticed it during its launch. But since the price has gone down to £160 im sure it's going to get alot of attraction now

TLRtheory said:
... plays games with a sense of tactility, responsiveness and precision... without any kind of ridiculous external controller that must be separately charged, assembled and/or paired.
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This!! Back when I had my HTC Hero, I always wanted some sort of bluetooth controller so I could control emulators more easily!

kupo5131 said:
That's the biggest problem with this phone... What the hell do i upgrade to if they drop the SEX PLAY 2?? I can't play games just with a touch screen anymore lol
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I feel ya. If the sexplay 2 gets cancelled I may just not upgrade. There's not been any other phone out there that's made me think that. I'm usually the latest tech whore, but why have all that power if you can't really use it properly?
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Logseman said:
But the phone was marketed to them. Sony didn't really try to push it for gamers only. look at the advertising, Kristen Schaal playing two roles, the slogan "Everything you need and the one thing you want"... None of that is designed to appeal to hardcore teen gamers, but to a more adult audience.
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TBH if it was marketed to teen gamers there would have been no way in hell I would have bought it.
I am an old school gamer and wanted a good mobile for work and for gaming.
The only 2 things I wish the device had was 12mp Camera and an HDMI port. But will be definitely be buying the X Play 2... But now that Sony has taken over the mobile division it is more likely to be an actual "PlayStation phone".

i do agree , i think we all agree
imagine that you have a phone with 8 core (( CPU )) , how you can enjoy with your phone when you have to touch screen for play games ?!!
beside how can you see your screen when your finger is on that !!
any way ,
i think it xperia play have very good design whit good hardware ...
but now
i think we all need sony's exclusive games , not android global games , just imagine great games on xperia play , like " god of war - resistance - locoroco - little big planet - patapon - uncharted - grand turism..." and other company's games " like silent hill ... "
it's time for sony to show its ability on games world .
i don't know guys , are you agree with me! but i want to say : SONY,WE WANT YOUR EXCLUSIVE GAMESSSSSSSSS

mehdi.moha said:
i do agree , i think we all agree
imagine that you have a phone with 8 core (( CPU )) , how you can enjoy with your phone when you have to touch screen for play games ?!!
beside how can you see your screen when your finger is on that !!
any way ,
i think it xperia play have very good design whit good hardware ...
but now
i think we all need sony's exclusive games , not android global games , just imagine great games on xperia play , like " god of war - resistance - locoroco - little big planet - patapon - uncharted - grand turism..." and other company's games " like silent hill ... "
it's time for sony to show its ability on games world .
i don't know guys , are you agree with me! but i want to say : SONY,WE WANT YOUR EXCLUSIVE GAMESSSSSSSSS
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Once playstation suite releases hopefully that becomes a reality
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psp games when are those coming?

Huge indecision

Hi everyone! I'm going to buy a new smartphone...and now i'm considering the xperia play.
There are only a few things that make me vacillate...
1)I love installing custom roms and the hacking in general...I see that there are only few rom and there isn't a MIUI rom >_<
2)1.6,it seems to be very fat >_<
3)playing ps1 games must drain a lot of battery >_<
I would really like to buy this phone but expecially the second point make me stop >_<
can someone help me deciding?
I love the hw,the 4" screen is perfect for me and playing games with hw buttons...

At first I thought it was a fatty as well. I came from an O2X.
But it isn't. Its just not 'superthin'. Do I want a super slim light phone that feels like a plastic toy? Nope.
Its all relative to what you think so go down to a shop, pick it up, put it in your pocket (with the store owners consent of course ) and see.
But I doubt after buying you would worry about it.

there is a MIUI port.

Camera quality?720p recording?

BurningKoala said:
Camera quality?720p recording?
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Camera quality is better than my x10 was which had an 8.1 mp camera. Video quality is 720p, again much smoother than my x10 video 720p.

If you like gaming on your phone then get it.

if you don't like gaming then get the xperia ray. When I play games it does use a lot of the battery on my play so if you don't play games a lot don't get this fone. I love the play and love gaming.
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how much hours of gaming can i get with a full battery?

You will have to charge it every night
Think it only take about an hour though.
Cant comment of how many hours of gaming from full to dead, everyone would have different results due to customizations on thier phones.
The bottom line is though if you dont buy it and game on your phone, you will regret not buying it. Those guys who are destroying everyone in online game are play owners

swebosdev said:
You will have to charge it every night
Think it only take about an hour though.
Cant comment of how many hours of gaming from full to dead, everyone would have different results due to customizations on thier phones.
The bottom line is though if you dont buy it and game on your phone, you will regret not buying it. Those guys who are destroying everyone in online game are play owners
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But i would buy play only for play n64/ps1 games i don't like all android games xD

get yourself PES2012, EA and Gameloft HD games, you will love itu

N64 alone is a great reason to buy it, you say you dont like android games and i understand that. I didnt either till i got my play. Now i enjoy great gaming, great gps, great camera, great internet, the list go's on and on. Had it since may and im still loving it.
Not to mention mame, snes, etc etc

I've tested my battery several times, you can get about 5.5 hours of just straight gaming (that's with data turned off). That's quite a while if you ask me. If you're not gaming, or very lightly gaming, the phone will last a couple days without needing a charge.

i have a 2600mah battery (15 euro on ebay) and ik can play 9 hours of gaming with data on!

Erikwithafro said:
I've tested my battery several times, you can get about 5.5 hours of just straight gaming (that's with data turned off). That's quite a while if you ask me. If you're not gaming, or very lightly gaming, the phone will last a couple days without needing a charge.
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Ditto. Played F1 97 on fpse for about 3 hours on a train and used about 50% of my battery
brought to you by the XDA app on my badass Android toy

I personally love it. I was sceptical about the size at first, i came from the Optimus S (alot smaller), but the Play feels really comfortable in my hand, it doesnt feel fragile. As far as ROMS go, if you have the GSM model, you should be ok with flashing custom ROMs, if you have the CDMA model your pretty much screwed. I play the games from the xplay, and i use OnLive. I have a few PSX games, but i dont play them on my Play, i cant stand the graphics on old PS1 games on a device capable of so much more... lol

Not all the hype
The Xperia play has alot of hype from fanboys
Sure the specs of the phone are fast but the construction is sub-par
it's not made by SCEA but rather Ericsson and the thing is mostly plastic
after the first oh 500 sildes of the screen it will start getting play/travel from side to side.
I have a brand new one to and I've had a used one from ebay. they both showed signs of the slider wearing out and showing play after 500 or more slides
the whole thing is plasticly and it really shows on the "chrome" fake parts that are just painted to look like metal.
if you scratch them at all they stand out like a sore thumb as being fake.
Now the positives its cool for gaming
the controls definitely are a neat thing to tinker with so if you like to tinker then thats cool.
Onto my recommendation.
We have 2 droid X phones 1 was brand new 1 was used and we bought a badly abused one from ebay so i've seen them in every condition
the facts are the droid X is one of the strongest smart phones I've seen
the case is REAL METAL. even the battery cover. and it's Rubberized
so you know it's going to be durable.
The screen is Gorilla Glass nearly unbreakable especially with a thick screen protector installed.
The processor is speedy and so is the ram. it will be able to play almost every game the Xperia can. Ive tested it on alot of stuff
Customization with ROMS:
quite simply a ton of them exist and people are making more every day.
even tho the phone has a locked bootloader that has helped it in the long run because all the developers started working on new roms that were based on the stock one but HIGHLY modified. and so now tons of flavors exist. it's very good scene and community.
I came from droid X community before this one and they are way more active in terms of development. I blame that on the fact the Xperia has way to many versions
The discrepancy in versions makes development a pain in the ass for the Xperia PLay because so many versions of it exists
you got the
R800x
R800i
R800a
and each one is different
mostly the developer only work on the R800i because that is the international version
so ya its reallly up to you
just use your judgement on this one
oh you could look into the droid X-2, it uses dual core processor and it's much improved

You cant compare this phone to one that doesnt have a gamepad, it doesnt make any sense.
People who do that are the ones who shouldnt even have bought it in the first place. They are not gamers.
Gamers buy this, we didnt buy a phone that had a gamepad on it, we bought a gamepad that has a phone on it.
The gamepad is the reason you buy an xperia play, if you dont see it that way then you will be happier buying something else.

I have a confession.....This is the best phone ever!

Seriously, since I've started working, I have had no time to play my console games. At night, I come home and I can't be asked to switch on my PS3, especially when I'm dying to go to sleep. So in the end I've decided to sell my PS3 as it is really gathering dust and that practically puts an end for the fun time I had with console gaming.
Now, I have had the xperia play for many months. At night, before I sleep, I have a quick game since it doesn't take too long to set up and that I can quickly turn the phone off and doze to sleep (a guy has to have some form of entertainment in a day right?) This has been going on for a while now, been playing these 'mobile' games not entirely in excitement, but just to appreciate why I have bought this phone. HOWEVER, everything has changed since the last week. I liked my phone a week ago but now, I completely LOVE IT!
Ever since the Onlive service has come out, I can play CONSOLE games on my phone and in quick succession. People may think I'm strange for playing console games on my phone. But in my situation, this is the best thing that has ever happened to me. Seriously, I can't live without my phone and despite whether the rumours are true that the sales of the phone is down the dumps, this is perhaps the most underrated phone OF ALL TIME! I even get thoughts to buy a second xperia play incase Sony decide to stop producing these phones and I hate buying second hand phones!
So overall what I'm trying to say is. If the Xperia Play does stop in production, I can only hope to get a phone, which has a gamepad and the onlive system is released on it! I can't believe that I can play console games, mobile games, watch movies, read books, make phone calls on one device. I really do hope the xperia play does well, if it fails.....and I lose or break my phone. I've really had it lol.

cheers man!
Just think about me, i love this phone as much as you, AND i can't access onlive 'cause it's not effin working in my region (wake the ef up italy!).
Still, i'm in your exact same position. Get back home, everyone's asleep, i just dive in my bed, earphones, and pop in some good old Link to the past, some secret of mana, some Fire emblem and that's all i need for my gaming life
I used to have emulators on my pc, but then i got an arrow to the... sorry, i mean, i had a whole bunch of emulators on my laptop but i just uploaded them on my xplay for me to enjoy!

I have to totally agree aswell, iv had a tmobile pulse then a wildfire then a blade then a desire, im not really a gamer but i really liked this phone, 4inch screen, 1ghz processor, and to make it even better i got one of ebay for £130, £20 less than what i paid for my desire, and i love this phone so much, games are excellent, dont really care about flaws cause they dont bother, i even like the SE home launcher lol, nice to see a positive thread rather than a negative one.

damn i'd love stock SE launcher IF it had panorama view. One of the occasions in which i use the phone the most is when it's hooked up in my car, and have to navigate in portrait is hellish, but it's even worse when i need to send an sms and i use google's voice recognition, the window pop up in portrait making correcting and typing while driving practically worse than doing it without speech recognition

driving and typing is unsafe and illegal here ...unfortunately people dont care and it makes driving much more risky for everyone

pelly_jelly said:
cheers man!
Just think about me, i love this phone as much as you, AND i can't access onlive 'cause it's not effin working in my region (wake the ef up italy!).
Still, i'm in your exact same position. Get back home, everyone's asleep, i just dive in my bed, earphones, and pop in some good old Link to the past, some secret of mana, some Fire emblem and that's all i need for my gaming life
I used to have emulators on my pc, but then i got an arrow to the... sorry, i mean, i had a whole bunch of emulators on my laptop but i just uploaded them on my xplay for me to enjoy!
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Its not working in Italy? Thats ridiculous. Its in the EU, and theres not that much to translate.

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driving and typing is unsafe and illegal here ...unfortunately people dont care and it makes driving much more risky for everyone
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yeah it's illegal here too, illegal and stupid, that's why i don't use stock SE launcher From the first time that google voice recognition got his italian translation i've been using it like crazy. That's another thing that's way implemented in android and most of the times goes almost unnoticed (at last, here)

Its not working in Italy? Thats ridiculous. Its in the EU, and theres not that much to translate.
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I'm in Italy too, I confirm it's not working. I mean, I can play demos and stuff fine using an apk got here on xda, and translations aren't a problem of course. The problem is I can't purchase anything. The only way to do that is to make someone else do the purchase on our accounts and then refund them.

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I'm in Italy too, I confirm it's not working. I mean, I can play demos and stuff fine using an apk got here on xda, and translations aren't a problem of course. The problem is I can't purchase anything. The only way to do that is to make someone else do the purchase on our accounts and then refund them.
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Oh! I though he meant he couldn't connect Yeah, I don't think I can buy stuff here either.
U.S. first, second and third I guess...

I agree with you jajabinx.
I love this phone as well. If anything did happen to it as you mentioned I don't know what i'd do.
But still there's games coming out for it as well like Virtua Tennis and Sonic 4 which works with the gamepad so hope not lost just yet...
And I love the 4.0'' screen. It's gorgeous and It's huge !
I think 2012 will be a very good year for the Xperia Play

pelly_jelly said:
damn i'd love stock SE launcher IF it had panorama view. One of the occasions in which i use the phone the most is when it's hooked up in my car, and have to navigate in portrait is hellish, but it's even worse when i need to send an sms and i use google's voice recognition, the window pop up in portrait making correcting and typing while driving practically worse than doing it without speech recognition
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You mean, landscape view? 2.3.3 only supported a landscape lockscreen and you had to trick it into showing even that but 2.3.4 does support landscape. It only does it with the slider extended, but it does do it.

Nope, it does it when its in the dock. Its triggered by the magnet that's in the dock so you could fix a small magnet to your carholder to trick it into working.
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jajabinx35 said:
Seriously, since I've started working, I have had no time to play my console games. At night, I come home and I can't be asked to switch on my PS3, especially when I'm dying to go to sleep. So in the end I've decided to sell my PS3 as it is really gathering dust and that practically puts an end for the fun time I had with console gaming.
Now, I have had the xperia play for many months. At night, before I sleep, I have a quick game since it doesn't take too long to set up and that I can quickly turn the phone off and doze to sleep (a guy has to have some form of entertainment in a day right?) This has been going on for a while now, been playing these 'mobile' games not entirely in excitement, but just to appreciate why I have bought this phone. HOWEVER, everything has changed since the last week. I liked my phone a week ago but now, I completely LOVE IT!
Ever since the Onlive service has come out, I can play CONSOLE games on my phone and in quick succession. People may think I'm strange for playing console games on my phone. But in my situation, this is the best thing that has ever happened to me. Seriously, I can't live without my phone and despite whether the rumours are true that the sales of the phone is down the dumps, this is perhaps the most underrated phone OF ALL TIME! I even get thoughts to buy a second xperia play incase Sony decide to stop producing these phones and I hate buying second hand phones!
So overall what I'm trying to say is. If the Xperia Play does stop in production, I can only hope to get a phone, which has a gamepad and the onlive system is released on it! I can't believe that I can play console games, mobile games, watch movies, read books, make phone calls on one device. I really do hope the xperia play does well, if it fails.....and I lose or break my phone. I've really had it lol.
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I don't use it every day like this but i love it too for making all of the above possible.
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I think it's the best phone of all time too, and I quickly came to realise, it's the device I've always wanted. Tekken 3 in my pocket! And of course I can customise the phone any way I want, play music and video, put my social life on it, go on the internet etc.
If the Play didn't exist, I'd just have whatever inexpensive to own Android that can browse the web smoothly and can run video at its own screen resolution. I didn't upgrade my previous iPhone 3G to an iPhone 4/whatever because I realised the only game I was playing with a touchscreen for longer than a day was Scrabble / Words with Friends.
I think the law of diminishing returns has set in with the newer phones... Given the need to have a small screen to fit in your pocket, (honest question) what is the purpose of future phones with more processing power for that small screen, if not for games, and physical controls are what makes games fun. 5 minutes on Sonic CD with and without the gamepad proves that... At least, what is a purpose worth tying yourself to a more expensive contract for? (£150 handset price + £10 a month giffgaff sim for a phone this capable was so cheap!)

Im agree. This phone not the best for it specs, but this really the best for all off it purposes, it fit for our daily life.
We can do all thing for convenience with only 1 device, the XPlay.
- Clear screen
- High quality stereo speaker
- Good music quality
- Great camera
- Very good 720p camcorder
- Fast Internet
- Best mobile gaming experience.
etc, etc... so much good stuff in this 1 device, i will never regret buying these phones, will never change to other phone again except Play successors.
the only lacking stuff is a HDMI out port.

This phone is awesome. I came from the Motorola atrix and that is a powerful phone. I still like it. But i realized that i actually don't need that much processing power. I make calls, txt, music, surf the the net, light youtubing... and games... i almost never touch. And i am a gamer.
So what's wrong? Touchscreens just suck! I cant stand playing on it. And i don't like a lot of these new mobile touchscreen games. I got the play for a really good price and I'm so glad i did! I have more fun on gameboy advance games then anything on the android market. Plus the play with its "subpar" specs does everything the atrix can do at roughly the same speed. Dual core is unfortunately such a waste on phones right now. They aren't truly optimized yet.
I would love to see a successor to the play. But who knows if that will happen...

Yeah I agree. Touchscreen does suck! It's like your thumbs cover half of the screen and to be honest there's just no enjoyment playing on a touchscreen.
It just feels so nice playing with physical buttons.
You have that extra space between your hands and the screen.
Oh, and I love my Xperia Play, my first Android Smartphone it's just got everything I need.
I don't know why but the screen is a beast. Okay, it may not use the Bravia Engine but still it's so crisp,clear and HUGE! bigger than an iphone screen
Best purchase eva !

AtomicKoala said:
Oh! I though he meant he couldn't connect Yeah, I don't think I can buy stuff here either.
U.S. first, second and third I guess...
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US and UK first, second and third
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Shadowgun is a joy to play now thanks to the new update.
Analog touchpads work great