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http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/26/the-playstation-phone/
Wow this looks like it can definitely be interesting.
1GHz Qualcomm MSM8655 (a chip similar to the one found in the G2, but 200MHz faster), 512MB of RAM, 1GB of ROM, and the screen is in the range of 3.7 to 4.1 inches
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the device you see is headed into the market soon, likely boasting Android 3.0 (aka Gingerbread), along with a custom Sony Marketplace which will allow you to purchase and download games designed for the new platform
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Two things I'm hoping for: STOCK Android (no Sony bloatware crap like Timeline or Media scape) and an above average battery (unlike the crap battery on the X10). This could be a game changer for Android in that it will be the first device that elite mobile game developers will want to develop for, like the iPhone. Games like Angry Birds and Fruit Ninja are great but to see full blown games like the iPhone has (Street Fighter 4, Grand Theft Auto, EA Sports line etc) would be great.

That's nice but who would play games on a phone for more than ten minutes ?

going_home said:
That's nice but who would play games on a phone for more than ten minutes ?
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go download Angry Birds and I bet you do!

crachel said:
go download Angry Birds and I bet you do!
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I already have it. Ten minutes is about it and I'm done.

going_home said:
That's nice but who would play games on a phone for more than ten minutes ?
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The same people who play for hours on their PSP, DS or iPhone.. The whole point is to advance mobile entertainment to the point where only one device is needed for gaming (we're getting there with devices like this), music (already there except for the issue of small storage sizes) media hub capabilities (HDMI out, Google TV, Apple TV etc) and of course, phone use.
This won't appeal to everyone but if done correctly (ie. doesn't have a crap battery) then this could potentially cater to a huge market.

I'm pretty torn on this idea. I would love to have nice games on my phone, but I also worry about the battery life. I guess the price could make or break it. If it's anymore than $300 (without contract it's a game system more than a phone hopefully.) I might just get it as a gaming machine on the side and keep a phone. Game library is also important.

Battery life will be the key. I don't know how much bandwidth online PSP gaming takes though for 3g.

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http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/26/the-playstation-phone/
blah blah blah blah blah blah.
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Nexus One General........ Meh.

Full of Fail ?
I just cant see this hitting the big time.
Its aimed at teenagers and 20-somethings and most of them are cash poor.
Though having said that this is Sony we are talking about.
And I didnt think the IPad would sell either.
The "if it doesnt interest me it wont sell" theory doesnt work all the time I guess.

going_home said:
I just cant see this hitting the big time.
Its aimed at teenagers and 20-somethings and most of them are cash poor.
Though having said that this is Sony we are talking about.
And I didnt think the IPad would sell either.
The "if it doesnt interest me it wont sell" theory doesnt work all the time I guess.
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Or parents with kids who like to play with their phone. I personally I like the idea and would consider dropping my N1 for it.

going_home said:
I just cant see this hitting the big time.
Its aimed at teenagers and 20-somethings and most of them are cash poor.
Though having said that this is Sony we are talking about.
And I didnt think the IPad would sell either.
The "if it doesnt interest me it wont sell" theory doesnt work all the time I guess.
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What are consoles aimed at? They start usually around $400/500 and guess how many kids get them at launch...

Seems like a huge waste of slider space for just 8 buttons (I had an idea of a dual slider where one side was a qwerty and the other side was the gamepad). I honestly think it would be better if they just released proper bluetooth android drivers for a dual shock 3 gamepad

why this huge price-cut?

this is starting to get absurd.
At first i thought that it was just Expansys who went crazy and lowered the price THAT much, i figured they made a mistake ordering hundreds of the device and couldn't sell them so had to resort to drop to ridiculous prices or whatever the heck can happen when an (non)internet shop make mistakes.
But now it's like 3-4 other internet shops are going for more or less that price, never heard before of a 500 euro smartphone sold by so many shops at less than half price like this.
Nothing just happen without a reason, there's always at last 1 reason why this phone got his price slashed like this, and thinking about it, ok it didn't sold THAT much but it had some kind of a cult following... and being honest, this handset has practically the same hardware as the Arc, beside the exmor-whatever camera, but not only that, just check at whatever other android phone of more or less 200 euros, the Play clearly is way, way better than them...
Again, i wonder what's the meaning behind this insane price cut.
I'm currently an X10 user and i love it, but being a huge retro-gaming geek, i'm selling it for 180 euros (and friends of mine says it's cheap) and bought a 240 euro Xperia play waiting for it to arrive (damned expansys delayed shipping to next week).
Hope i did the right thing and this SEXplay will not crumble and turn into dust in the first 5 days of usage or sad things like that.

i don't know but i bought my phone May this year for 5000HKD (around 650USD) and now that it is released in my country they sell it for around 450USD at Sony Ericsson concept shops. i don't know the reason for the very low price but heck isn't that great?
i still go for the reason that it didn't sell well that's why they're selling it for a very low price.. besides, they need consumers to buy it fast because of the imminent release of the PlayStation Suite which will further increase their sales..

Well, most of the good games are just boring Gameloft ports.
The SexPlay is a great phone, with basically zero exclusive software support for it.
If you buy this phone for anything else other than emulation, you are basically wasting your time imho.

Like you did?
dsswoosh said:
Well, most of the good games are just boring Gameloft ports.
The SexPlay is a great phone, with basically zero exclusive software support for it.
If you buy this phone for anything else other than emulation, you are basically wasting your time imho.
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I used the XDA App to post this, what did you use?

Cat_On_Droid said:
Like you did?
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I didnt buy it for anything else other than emulation whilst being bored at work. (I use it as my main phone too ofc).
The free EA games are boring imo. As are most Gameloft games. The only other game i REALLY enjoy is the online texas poker.
The DPad is really nice to use whilst browsing the internet. The analog joysticks are not for me, i personally dont enjoy using them.
The reason why im mostly disapointed with the SexPlay is because there is no MAME emulator that has working save states. Without save states, mame is useless to me at work.
So yea, i have had a good time with the SexPlay, but im now of the opinion that i wont be buying another game phone. Especially not now that i have just bought a brand new laptop and can play proper mame at work on a nice big 17.5 inch screen with my xbox control pad.
I do wish the SexPlay continued success though, its just that it has outlived my pocket and i am eagerly awaiting my next phone upgrade. Glad that i only got an 18 month contract because it runs out in less than a year now.
Ive also had lots of prpoblems with my SexPlay -
1) Poor signal
2) No data signal
3) Volume button fell out
4) Back button doesnt work properly
5) Right shoulder button gone loose
6) Touchscreen goes dowhaddle whack crazy at times
7) Accelerometer doesnt work properly, steers to the left all the time
8) Compass doesnt work properly
And above all........I found out here in Britain we have a network called GiffGaff that runs off the O2 network, and for £10 / month on a PAYG deal you get TRULY unlimited data at "H" speeds.
I bought this simcard to see how it performs, and lets just say i have used close to 50gig this month leaving torrents downloading on my phone...............(wished id never even bought a contract, GiffGaff prices are probably the best in the World).

For me, poor signal and dead signal were cured in 2.3.4 update.
I agree with you xplay is limited, but it was my first smartphone and my expectations were dead low.
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Apparently there is going to be a Playstation store available for all ps certified devices. And they decided to drop the price so they could make a killing on apps i'm guessing

dsswoosh said:
Well, most of the good games are just boring Gameloft ports.
The SexPlay is a great phone, with basically zero exclusive software support for it.
If you buy this phone for anything else other than emulation, you are basically wasting your time imho.
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You mean until the Playstation Suite launches. I'm quite excited about how that's going to change things. Main reason I decided to go for the XPlay. That and the promise of more PS1 and possibly PSP titles on the way. But the future is looking good for the Xplay if the PS Suite does what Sony says it will.
There's also plenty of good non-gameloft games on the market that have been optimised for the XPlay already.

Am I the only one who likes Xperia PLAY for Xperia PLAY games?
I love my classics, and like to be a nostalgia drunken at times... but for the most part, playing something that actually takes advantage of the hardware (especially that big, beautiful 854x480 screen) is much more appealing than some game I've already played that will either be dis-proportioned, or letterboxed.

i dont know but i dont enjoy emulation at all..

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Am I the only one who likes Xperia PLAY for Xperia PLAY games?
I love my classics, and like to be a nostalgia drunken at times... but for the most part, playing something that actually takes advantage of the hardware (especially that big, beautiful 854x480 screen) is much more appealing than some game I've already played that will either be dis-proportioned, or letterboxed.
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I love a lot of the exclusive games but the analog stick control is such a miserable experience for me....regular market apps like pew pew respond better for me
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Cat_On_Droid said:
For me, poor signal and dead signal were cured in 2.3.4 update.
I agree with you xplay is limited, but it was my first smartphone and my expectations were dead low.
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I am thinking of getting this as an early upgrade for one of my lines.
If it comes with 2.3.4 installed allready, will I be able to root it?
I just got a DInc II and rooted it the Friday before the 2.3.4 update was forcefeeding around.
LUCKY.
This looks like a great emulator unit.
I hope this price sticks....

These price cuts make me a bit sad like.
I mean, I knew it would come...but it is kinda soon.
I paid £280 for my XPlay, now I can get it for between £180-£200 from very reputable dealers.
Sad.
That being said...yeah, the phone isn't perfect but I do love it.
I like the occasional 'new' game but most are really shallow (looking at you GameLoft), so I stick with what I got the phone for...the thousands of game available emulated.
Emulation has always been and always be my favourite thing, that's why this phone is perfect for me despite the obvious flaws.

agree with the bulk of you.
The only reason i'm getting this phone is because of emulation.
Hell i never ever even took a look at the gameloft or any other android game out there... i think i just played angry birds twice in my life.
I currently have an X10 and i absolutely love it, don't give a crap about dual core or stuff like that, my x10 goes fast and does everything i need it for; except for one thing, that is emulation.
I'd be the happiest person alive to have everything i had with my X10 plus a solid pad and the chance to pop it up any time and delight myself with some good-ol' super mario world
Right now there's another thing that concernes me about the play, dsswoosh was talking about buttons blowing in pieces or malfunctioning... that would suck. One thing i loved about my X10 are the marvelous hardware buttons (hate the softouch ones), that after almost a year of abuse they still work like new..

cac2us said:
I am thinking of getting this as an early upgrade for one of my lines.
If it comes with 2.3.4 installed allready, will I be able to root it?
I just got a DInc II and rooted it the Friday before the 2.3.4 update was forcefeeding around.
LUCKY.
This looks like a great emulator unit.
I hope this price sticks....
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17808767#post17808767

That this phone's strength lies in how well it can emulate anything below Dreamcast is undeniable. I bought it for 400 euro five months ago, now I could buy it for 220 or so... But the loads and loads of games that I've been able to revive and enjoy, and the fun of tinkering around with a new piece of kit (I've been lucky to have been helpful for some devs here), are just priceless.

pelly_jelly said:
Right now there's another thing that concernes me about the play, dsswoosh was talking about buttons blowing in pieces or malfunctioning... that would suck. One thing i loved about my X10 are the marvelous hardware buttons (hate the softouch ones), that after almost a year of abuse they still work like new..
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1) The volume button fell out, but i fixed it with a dab of solvent cement. Other people have reported it falling out aswell.
2) The back button has a fault where when you press it, sometimes it activates, 2 or 3 or even 4 times. This can be highly annoying. If you have 4 tabs opened in a browser and it activates 4 times, they all shut down and the browser exits
The O button can be used as back, so its not a gamebreaker, jut annoying.
3) My right shoulder button has lost springiness and sags a bit. Again, not a gamebreaker, just annoying.
The actual game buttons all work great and are solid after months of use.

TLRtheory said:
Am I the only one who likes Xperia PLAY for Xperia PLAY games?
I love my classics, and like to be a nostalgia drunken at times... but for the most part, playing something that actually takes advantage of the hardware (especially that big, beautiful 854x480 screen) is much more appealing than some game I've already played that will either be dis-proportioned, or letterboxed.
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Yup! I hardly play any retro games on my Play, too busy with modern xperia play optimized games!

For me, its all about emulation. Look at the options before the play : wiz gp2x / canoo : the linex devices that had piecemeal developer support and were a touch complicated to configure/set up. OpenPandora, great if you can wait 1.5 years for delivery, but a bit bulky. <-- I actually received mine about 1 week before the play arrived, now it sits collection dust as I have everything running better on the Xplay.

i traded in my xperia neo for a play,2months ago,been happy so far with the device although i must also admit that the signal handover is total crap..if it goes from 3g to edge it does have 2 seconds of "no service",when you are in a call,the call is dropped..other devices have a much smoother handover,but that was the same with xperia neo..my old iPhone 3g never dropped the signal when it changed the frequencies..
and the price cut i think its just because the play is a niche product,there are far too many people that would love to have a xperia play but consider themself "too old" or too "serious" to carry around a phone with handheld controls( or even the girlfriend says:lol what do you want with this toyphone.-) i hope that this playstation suite has something to offer because all this gameloft clone games and the rest,meh,nothing for me personally with two exceptions:hyperlight is great and reckless getaway
as far as it comes to gaming,i`m a retro gamer,i play only the oldschool games,mainly NEO GEO,i do love the CAVE vertical shooters but theres the problem there are too small on the play because when you switch it to TATE mode,you cant control with the gamepad,when you leave it landscape its too small,so thats a pity..but thats the reason i still keep an old CRT monitor.-)
when i was 12 years old,everyone got a SNES.a friend called me,he was some real anime and manga addict and got a NEO GEO out of an import store,he called me:hey come over,i got a new gaming system etc..i was blasted by the detailed sprites,the huge characters but i thought:"hey thats cool but i`ll stick to my SNES" but after that afternoon seeing the neo geo in action by a friend,i came home playing my loved SNES and thought:**** that,that`s just horrible graphics,i need that NEO GEO thing,it was literally no fun anymore to play SNES.so i traded in my snes with 40games for a neo geo with two games -robo army and sengoku2 .-) later i traded in the neo geo with 6 games for a japanese ps1,14days after it was released in japan..
..and everything that comes after ps1 isn`t exciting to me,in my opinion we are now in the worst decade of gaming ever:arcade is dead-touch gaming took it over,tiny dumb games with "accelerated controls" "movements" or even whole consoles like the Wii,xbox kinect,ps move,all this garbage..and it`s all about the "story" nowadays(who cares,these games are like a book,once you played it theres no point in playing them again,that`s why these ridiculous trophies and gamescore was invented..)or graphics(never liked 3d so much as 2d only exception was the ps1 because it was fresh but i felt after getting a ps2 years later that 3d is just not the way i love games).
and for playing these old games which need a console,a tv and a huge ass controller(neo geo arcade stick anyone?) on a phone in my pocket,everywhere,everytime is just priceless for me,the phone aspect is "soso" but when it comes to gaming,the play just rocks for retro lovers
i think with the price cut many people will buy it as a handheld only..basically its a steal and a no brainer for everyone who is into retro gaming,sure i can hookup a controller to my laptop but theres no way i would do that in spare 30minutes of time or in a train .-) with the xperia play its just slide open,press play,much faster and it`s so great to see all this games on a smaller display they look right,they feel right and they play right even 15-20years later..

Has XPlay bombed?

How many here think the XPlay has been a flop? I look at the list of XPlay optimized games, and I don't that much high quality console like games for it...at least any that I really REALLY I to play...

No
Maybe the Xperia Play has not done too well in terms of good quality games released on the Games for Playstation or any other Xperia Play optimized games but it still has its pros. It's perfect for a guy like me who loves to play NES and SNES games with emulators or even PSOne games on FPSe.

neverwinter said:
How many here think the XPlay has been a flop? I look at the list of XPlay optimized games, and I don't that much high quality console like games for it...at least any that I really REALLY I to play...
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Blablabla "Xplay with one year old = Xplay is a fail, is ****, is horrible".
If you get a Samsung Galaxy S3 you will find the same games but with some better graphics. And you will have to play using the touchscreen. xD
I'm tired of all people that thought that the Xplay is some kind of console. The Xplay is a normal Android mobile, with gaming controls to play more confortably the same games for another normal Android mobiles. END. It wasn't going to have exclusive games made only for it and it will never have them. So now you know what it really is, has it really been a fail? It has tons of games compatible with its physical controls (few phones have this preferent treatment). Stop just seeing the dark side of all!
If you want high quality console games and a phone then glue your desired mobile phone to a Playstation Vita or a Nintendo 3DS.
Oh, and learn to enjoy what you buy. People is begining to think it's normal to throw away their smartphones (and other similar devices) after one year (or less!) of use just because they are tired of them. That's an enormous waste of resources.

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Blablabla "Xplay with one year old = Xplay is a fail, is ****, is horrible".
If you get a Samsung Galaxy S3 you will find the same games but with some better graphics. And you will have to play using the touchscreen. xD
I'm tired of all people that thought that the Xplay is some kind of console. The Xplay is a normal Android mobile, with gaming controls to play more confortably the same games for another normal Android mobiles. END. It wasn't going to have exclusive games made only for it and it will never have them. So now you know what it really is, has it really been a fail? It has tons of games compatible with its physical controls (few phones have this preferent treatment). Stop just seeing the dark side of all!
If you want high quality console games and a phone then glue your desired mobile phone to a Playstation Vita or a Nintendo 3DS.
Oh, and learn to enjoy what you buy. People is begining to think it's normal to throw away their smartphones (and other similar devices) after one year (or less!) of use just because they are tired of them. That's an enormous waste of resources.
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Well said
Oh and one more thing I just wanna thank Sony Ericsson for making the Xperia Play cause this is the only smartphone out there that has a physical gamepad unless of course if in the future HTC or Sony come out with something.
But for now I can boast that I have smartphone with a gamepad !

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Well said
Oh and one more thing I just wanna thank Sony Ericsson for making the Xperia Play cause this is the only smartphone out there that has a physical gamepad unless of course if in the future HTC or Sony come out with something.
But for now I can boast that I have smartphone with a gamepad !
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Although HTC said it will no longer be making slider phones, I doubt they will make a new Play
Sony seems to be running out of design ideas, so I hope they see the Play as a new opportunity to get back into the playing field. Xperia Ion looks like its going to bomb 10x harder than the Play ever would.
If Sony/Microsoft can create another good Gaming Phone, I would love to purchase it.

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Although HTC said it will no longer be making slider phones, I doubt they will make a new Play
Sony seems to be running out of design ideas, so I hope they see the Play as a new opportunity to get back into the playing field. Xperia Ion looks like its going to bomb 10x harder than the Play ever would.
If Sony/Microsoft can create another good Gaming Phone, I would love to purchase it.
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Yeah but a new gaming smartphone looks a million miles away unfortunately.

Miles Wolf said:
Blablabla "Xplay with one year old = Xplay is a fail, is ****, is horrible".
If you get a Samsung Galaxy S3 you will find the same games but with some better graphics. And you will have to play using the touchscreen. xD
I'm tired of all people that thought that the Xplay is some kind of console. The Xplay is a normal Android mobile, with gaming controls to play more confortably the same games for another normal Android mobiles. END. It wasn't going to have exclusive games made only for it and it will never have them. So now you know what it really is, has it really been a fail? It has tons of games compatible with its physical controls (few phones have this preferent treatment). Stop just seeing the dark side of all!
If you want high quality console games and a phone then glue your desired mobile phone to a Playstation Vita or a Nintendo 3DS.
Oh, and learn to enjoy what you buy. People is begining to think it's normal to throw away their smartphones (and other similar devices) after one year (or less!) of use just because they are tired of them. That's an enormous waste of resources.
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Your post is completely wrong. The device was supposed to be a gaming device. They promised us the PlayStation store and lots of PS titles but we never got them. Also if it wasn't supposed to be a gaming device then why did they even waste their money and time on a gamepad for the device. A device with PlayStation controls is a gaming device. Personally I like my play. Many games are out for it and are play optimized. So people saying there aren't many games for it need to search a little more. There is tons. And I haven't found another device with better sound than the play. Those stereo speaker have such a clear sound to it and have amazing bass. All other devices sound like they are being played underwater or sound like they are being played through a tin can. Yes SE scammed us all by not giving us what they said they would. And also the play had many games threat were play exclusives like minecraft and a few games from THD devices. If Sony were to keep up and give us what they said they were then maybe the device would've done better. If they brought more ps titles out then yes it would've done well even with outdated hardware which to me doesn't bother me in the slightest as there are very very very few games or apps that need a quad core with 1gig of ram. It's a phone not a laptop or pc. The Play is what you make of it. And mine is good as like what I have got. ICS not being given does not bother me in the slightest as ICS isn't all that great anyway. It lags because it's a RAM hog. And it's a juice drinker. GB runs better and uses less power as it isn't constantly trying to sort background processes out etc.....
Anyways that's my two cents or should I say two dollars
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God damn to many aspiring writer's on here. It's a first generation phone the one and only with physical pads. I'm thirty and hopefully will live another fifty years and ya its done. Technology is moving fast. Oh my God there will never be another phone with game pads. Look further into the future and not just a year or two ahead. I can't wait. Hopefully I can get a new liver in twenty because I drank my away.
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Commercially, I'd say so. But for those ill-concerned with sales, Xperia Play brings a LOT to the table that'll make the sales-counters stop caring. You can find other physical controller solutions out there for other smartphones, but they don't really do much aside from let you play emulators with buttons. That's good for classic games, but we're in a modern era.
Xperia Play's the absolute best smartphone gaming option for people who want MORE than classic gaming. Yeah, it's good for emulators... but you can beat dead horses with a PSP, GP32, OpenPandora, Dingoo A320, JXD S7100, Yinlips YDPG18 or any smartphone on this planet that has bluetooth... Xperia Play's about the only one that's good for people who don't just want to beat dead horses... but rather want to take advantage of that 854x480 screen and modern day improvements in game mechanics.
And when we insert that factor, no other gaming phone allows us to play MODERN games like Dead Space, Sonic 4, Shadowgun, King of Fighters, N.O.V.A. 3 and the like as well as Xperia Play does... they'll, at best, have under 50 "general d-pad compatibility" titles under their belt, but not a single one of them has hundreds of games relieved from lame-ass touch controls like Xperia Play does.
...and as crazy as it sounds, my fresh, revolutionary, beautiful Vita is getting monumentally less playtime than my Xperia Play. So yeah... might not be doing hot in sales, but as far as software support goes... I don't see this locomotive stopping any time soon.

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Commercially, I'd say so. But for those ill-concerned with sales, Xperia Play brings a LOT to the table that'll make the sales-counters stop caring. You can find other physical controller solutions out there for other smartphones, but they don't really do much aside from let you play emulators with buttons. That's good for classic games, but we're in a modern era.
Xperia Play's the absolute best smartphone gaming option for people who want MORE than classic gaming. Yeah, it's good for emulators... but you can beat dead horses with a PSP, GP32, OpenPandora, Dingoo A320, JXD S7100, Yinlips YDPG18 or any smartphone on this planet that has bluetooth... Xperia Play's about the only one that's good for people who don't just want to beat dead horses... but rather want to take advantage of that 854x480 screen and modern day improvements in game mechanics.
And when we insert that factor, no other gaming phone allows us to play MODERN games like Dead Space, Sonic 4, Shadowgun, King of Fighters, N.O.V.A. 3 and the like as well as Xperia Play does... they'll, at best, have under 50 "general d-pad compatibility" titles under their belt, but not a single one of them has hundreds of games relieved from lame-ass touch controls like Xperia Play does.
...and as crazy as it sounds, my fresh, revolutionary, beautiful Vita is getting monumentally less playtime than my Xperia Play. So yeah... might not be doing hot in sales, but as far as software support goes... I don't see this locomotive stopping any time soon.
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Amen, well said. I absolutely love my Xperia PLAY. Yeah it doesnt have the top of the line specs but who cares. This things rocks. I hate touchscreen controls. Absolutely hate them. However on my phone......awesome. Love it. Nuff said. Appreciate what you have and enjoy it.

Only God knows where the next PLAY, or PLAY-like device will come from. It could be Nintendo of all people, I mean they really don't have anything to lose. Either way, the PLAY, in my mind is falling short due to the fact that you can now use wireless gamepads on their tablets or phones, the PLAYs lack of HDMI compatibility, and other unnecessary features like HD sound, although HDMI should have been added to non-dev phones. So in other words the plays capabilities can be achieved by buying some additional accessories. So, unfortunately, I doubt that Sony alone will attempt to develop a PLAY 2, unless it turns into a last resort, as it is obviously not their biggest concern. I would try to keep som hope though.
I do agree that the play is the most supported phone when it comes to games like N.O.V.A., but as time passes, the hw gets a little more outdated, and after so long android 5.0 will come along, and gb will more or less be phased out by developers. Aside from that, it definitely rocks, especially when people look and ask "Woah, what is that?". Makes my day.
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Leraeniesh said:
Although HTC said it will no longer be making slider phones, I doubt they will make a new Play
Sony seems to be running out of design ideas, so I hope they see the Play as a new opportunity to get back into the playing field. Xperia Ion looks like its going to bomb 10x harder than the Play ever would.
If Sony/Microsoft can create another good Gaming Phone, I would love to purchase it.
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I was hoping HTC and Sony might possibly collaborate, but I hadn't heard about their slider discontinuation. Hopefully, they'll make an exception. Samsung wouldn't be bad either, but I doubt they have any interest in such things.
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I was hoping HTC and Sony might possibly collaborate, but I hadn't heard about their slider discontinuation. Hopefully, they'll make an exception. Samsung wouldn't be bad either, but I doubt they have any interest in such things.
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http://www.smartkeitai.com/microsoft-windows-phone-patent-with-interchangeable-keyboard-gamepad/
Microsoft could be our best hope

i'm still hoping to have new xperia play (( mybe by other name : xperia PSP , psp phone ... ))
i'm wondering , there is so many eager people that count the days and crossing finger for next (high-end) gameing phone , but sony still haven't plan on that .
i'm really in love with my beautiful xperia play , but i will it could be possible to change the CPU and RAM , like desktop , couse today , it's really out of date( H/W )

Portable emu.
On live.
Best in class GPS
Awesome android smartphone
720p camera and video
Game pad.
Low price in 2012
Who can ask for anything more?
Psp games? Who gives a crap because I sure don't.
Haters who own one there are few and mostly just forum trolls. How's your HDMI mehdi?
Hater who don't have one. Just jelly I got one and you don't. Oh look another head shot, ya man that's a play owner.

Xperia Play is now an outdated phone. New games doesnot seem to support play because it has an old gpu and only a single core cpu.
I think sony should come up with a new "XPERIA PLAY 2" which should have a 4.8" 720p HD screen, 1.5GB RAM, 1.6GHz Quad-Core CPU and TEGRA 3 GPU. It will be a beast, even better than PS vita...!!!!
P.s: I dont know why you people hate touch screen gaming. I love it. I reached "Rank 70 with more than 6000 kills" at modern combat 3 multiplayer" within only a month on my S2...!
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DD-Ripper said:
Xperia Play is now an outdated phone. New games doesnot seem to support play because it has an old gpu and only a single core cpu.
I think sony should come up with a new "XPERIA PLAY 2" which should have a 4.8" 720p HD screen, 1.5GB RAM, 1.6GHz Quad-Core CPU and TEGRA 3 GPU. It will be a beast, even better than PS vita...!!!!
P.s: I dont know why you people hate touch screen gaming. I love it. I reached "Rank 70 with more than 6000 kills" at modern combat 3 multiplayer" within only a month on my S2...!
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We hate touch screen gaming cause we are all gamers and need physical buttons !

i love the play.
it would have been perfect for me if it had launched with 1giga Rams and at least 2gb storage.
I'm kinda over the low RAM and will most likely upgrade to the hayabusa when it becomes available.

If Microsoft made a gaming phone..... It would dominate and blow away all competitors, even phones like the S3. But they don't even have a foot in the handheld battlefield YET. So it's probably not gonna happen for a long time. Xplay is cool and yeah people get bored of it quite easily. But I look at it as the stepping stone for much greater things ahead. Just hope I'll be alive and not have crazy arthritis or something to be able to enjoy it. Our kids are gonna have some crazy high tech stuff when we're all old and they'll take our places in these forums lol.

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We hate touch screen gaming cause we are all gamers and need physical buttons !
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Then why you people buy touchscreen phones??
Whats wrong with qwerty keypad phones..? They have physical buttons.!
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[Discussion] Xperia Play's Future

Much has happened since we got our phones - awesome time, news, updates, hopes. But those things started to fade away and XPlay started to slowly be left behind. I consider we should draw a line up until now and reflect to what might happen afterwards. I'll list a few talking topics in which we should ask ourselves some questions.
1. About the ICS update
The ICS update promise and then denial surely was a great dissapointment for us all. I, for myself, somehow did manage to lose interest in the phone, the main reason being this old version. I wanted something new, something interesting for the phone so I can enjoy it even more. Although ICS was cancelled on purpose, I still feel that the main reason was laziness. Moving on...
2. Future GB updates. When?
So after the ICS dissapointment, we were promised the phone would receive some new GB updates to make up for it. But when? After 2 years when nobody is gonna use the phone anymore? I want GB 2.3.7, I want the new XPlay launcher seen on ICS beta, but not after the device will be long forgotten.
3. The future of XPlay. Is it bright?
Considering the two aspects above, who would want to buy XPlay anymore these days? Would actual XPlay owners consider keeping the device any longer? Until when? Consider the subsections below:
Xperia Play 2 not to be expected
Fewer XPlay optimised games by the day
No ICS, no new updates
Ouya to influence Android optimised games?
4. XPlay users past 6 monhs or one year
I would like to hear the current feedback of the device from other "veterans". From my perspective, it was an awesome year, although I'm starting to get a little bored by the device. Luckily, no buttons are scratched or fell off, although I could say my case isn't looking that good (it's scratched).
Let's discuss about this matters and see what is to be done with XPlay from now on.

I think it's been abandoned. I would upgrade to a different device when your contract allows it to.
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5. As a gaming device. I don't think it has future since the modern games (batman - spiderman - Asphelt 7) run with a huge lag, future games will not run.

Xperia-Play said:
5. As a gaming device. I don't think it has future since the modern games (batman - spiderman - Asphelt 7) run with a huge lag, future games will not run.
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Cant speak for Spiderman/batman but Asphalt 7 plays smooth on mine...... then again I am running at 1.2ghz and supercharged. I will snag batman/spiderman some time later and test out

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who would want to buy XPlay anymore these days? Would actual XPlay owners consider keeping the device any longer? Until when?
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The people who will want it will be the only people who wanted it in the first place, Gamers. The problem is you're thinking of the Xperia Play as mostly a phone. I don't know about anyone else, but the main reason I bought this phone was because I wanted something that could emulate all the old retro consoles after my PSP broke. The fact that I needed a new phone and the Play was cheap as hell was just a very nice bonus.
However, on the other hand, this is a phone, and it is running Android. And seeing as it's running Android, who the hell was expecting to use it as a phone for a long time in the first place?
I'm already looking for a new phone(The Play is too slow, the keyboard is ****ed now that it's summer, and I can't play and text all day from the same device at the same time) but i'm definately keeping the Play, it will always have a place as a dedicated emulation console.

Having owned mine for over a year it has not aged well in comparison to some handsets! But yeah when my contract is up looking to see what Samsung have on offer! But will be keeping my Play! Simply as an emulation engine! Even if it died! Still think I would pick up another along side a new handset! Just carnt beat the REAL controls!
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The people who will want it will be the only people who wanted it in the first place, Gamers. The problem is you're thinking of the Xperia Play as mostly a phone. I don't know about anyone else, but the main reason I bought this phone was because I wanted something that could emulate all the old retro consoles after my PSP broke. The fact that I needed a new phone and the Play was cheap as hell was just a very nice bonus.
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^ Actually that's my main reason aswel for buying the XPlay. I'm just saying how the majority of the consumers think nowadays.

This may sound odd but I'm getting a brand new XP tomorrow. For a hefty price too. Went through several ones, always regretted selling them. Don't ask me why I do this,it's some kind of a disorder probably But the last one was the worst - immediately after I sold it new games started appearing on the Store - Lara Croft, Dead Trigger, Broken Sword, FF 3. Well they are not 'new' but are sort of new to Android. I don't care if the support is waning (I don't see it that way) it's still a pretty decent device/smartphone and the emulation possibilities are awesome. I especially like how many PS1 games I could try on it, while my former PS Vita was still waiting for PS1 support. So, er, I hope one year from now they still make most Android games compatible with this awesome device. I am of the opinion that it must have sold more units than the PS Vita (so far), so it should be worth it to the developers.

I have now got myself a Samsung Galaxy S3 since my upgrade was due. Funny thing is that even though the S3 is much more powerful than the play, and has a much nicer screen, plus ICS on it is great, I don`t feel quite the love I have for my Play.
I have tried playing games using on screen controls and hate it so much! The S3 is great for other games such as Asphalt 7, Super Monkey ball, Broken Sword, Demolition Inc etc, but any games requiring a gamepad just don`t do it for me on the S3, I miss the feel of a true gamepad, the touch of real buttons, the feeling of a real directional pad.
My S3 is now king of media, net and games designed for touch screen, but when it comes to the crunch and I feel like playing some genesis, snes, N64 etc games my Play will always be with me, it will always rule for beat `em ups too.

As long as onlive is around, there should never be a reason to ditch the play.
I'll take emulation and onlive over any android game any day of the week.

Have had mine since launch, but didn't find the XDA scene til like January.
But yeah, it's failed. Especially the Verizon one. They updated it twice, and ****ing broke it in the 3rd update. Go die Verizon.

The custom ICS roms are the only thing making this phone bearable, was really upset when games like Mass Effect weren't optimized for this phone. But I was kinda disappointed from the start due to the average processing power for a phone that was meant for gaming. And the promised updates are still not here.

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The people who will want it will be the only people who wanted it in the first place, Gamers. The problem is you're thinking of the Xperia Play as mostly a phone.
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Ditto. People wanna pretend that the lack of ICS is the ultimate omen of disaster for the Xperia Play when there's so much more truth slipping under the radar.
I bought the Xperia Play because it was the only phone on the market that had real gaming potential, and actually worked with a large amount of this-generation games (as opposed to everything else that fails from having sub-par touch controls, or fails because it's only good for emulation). For that purpose, it's been great. Sales are another story, but through some form of paradox, Xperia Play managed to get software support that's far above and beyond what we would expect with so many (non-owners) claiming it's commercially failed. It's software support has actually been so strong and diverse that I constantly question if I really needed to buy the PlayStation Vita I got some months back.
When it was revealed that ICS wasn't coming to Xperia Play, it seemed all too easy to jump on the bandwagon instead of actually paying attention. And those who actually pay attention have already realized that, from a gaming standpoint, Xperia Play's capable of getting all of ICS'es major features without dealing with the general higher memory consumption and crippled game compatibility that we've already seen in action on ICS beta & unofficial ICS roms.
Sure we'd be able to prance around clamoring about having 'the new thing' but pay attention and you realize we still have the cream ofvthe crop for tactile smartphone gaming. I'm still getting buttery smooth performance on stock 2.3.4, and as the person whose taken it upon myself to actively database Xperia Play's game releases, I can say with 100% confidence that the release schedule has not slowed down one bit. The phone's never demonstrated any level of falling behind or becoming too slow to handle any benchmark game thrown at it.
Furthermore, we've got to a point in which software options allow us to manually add controls to games, so all of the 150+ charted developers could hypothetically ditch the Xperia Play and we'd still be able to play future games.
Not to say anyone is right or wrong, but it's all about perception; if you want to believe Xperia Play's a sinking ship, there's a good chance that's something you've psychologically drilled into your mentality beyond a point of negotiation...and likewise the people who are copiously attentive to Xperia Play's news are swamped in more quality material than they can handle...and more importantly, they realize that ICS (or a lack thereof) isn't gonna stop their fresh, new Call of Duty: Black Ops.
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if you need ICS 404 on Play
i recommended CM9 Stable
My friend flash this rom it's work
Tounchpad is work too
but i still use Gb becuase i don't backup my phone

I just went from g2 to the xp. I don't know if any phone will be next or if there will be something in the future to replace the xp.
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eventhough the SGS3's awesomely attractively big screen almost always makes me drool whenever i see it displayed in various malls, i'm not ditching the play anytime soon.. i just cant live with touhscreen gaming no matter how powerful a phone is..
you're a gamer and no physical gamepad? then your phone's lame..

narflynn619 said:
eventhough the SGS3's awesomely attractively big screen almost always makes me drool whenever i see it displayed in various malls, i'm not ditching the play anytime soon.. i just cant live with touhscreen gaming no matter how powerful a phone is..
you're a gamer and no physical gamepad? then your phone's lame..
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The SIII is a great phone, but you are right though. Games made for proper controls just don`t feel right on it, this is the same for any device that does not have true physical controls. It is for this reason I got the SIII, it`s great for media and photo`s etc, but my Play stays by my side for dedicated gaming.

narflynn619 said:
eventhough the SGS3's awesomely attractively big screen almost always makes me drool whenever i see it displayed in various malls, i'm not ditching the play anytime soon.. i just cant live with touhscreen gaming no matter how powerful a phone is..
you're a gamer and no physical gamepad? then your phone's lame..
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Yep, that's about the way I feel too.
I've ogled the Galaxy Note, Galaxy S2 (and all it's variants), SIII, HTC Rezound, Nexus as well as quite a few others. All wonderful, wonderful phones!!
... and when I use them, it's quite amazing to see bigger, better screens with larger resolutions and all the wonders that come with NFC. Can't say I'm too fond of how "soft-hardware" keys have become the norm because that makes a rested thumb near the home key exit me out of a game, but there's a lotta beastly phones out there.
Yeah, I'll admit to getting to a point where I'd wanting them (mostly due to my previous lifestyle where I'd go through about 5 phones a year). But then we get to fluidity/smoothness and I notice my Xperia Play's already got that handled... while also having that bonus of a built-in gamepad. There's all kinds of external controller support to be found throughout various Android devices, but a not a single one that can touch how much developer support Xperia Play has under it's belt.
Ideally, that's the only needs Xperia Play needs to fulfill... games and developer support. ICS would've been nice and all just so we didn't get loads of (non-Xperia Play owner) troll communities going on about how we were "dropped," but realistically, the decision to oust Xperia Play from getting ICS proved a level of consideration and integrity that Sony typically does not exhibit...
...and when you look at the general consensus, we all see the recurring theme that all these awesome ICS roms are always followed by the people "in the know" telling us that GB is the best choice for Xperia Play owners who actually care about gaming.

You gave everyone a nice read again TLR. Nice one!
BTW, mind if I asked, you're on stock ROM right? Any fancy tweaks on your phone? Like OC? Just curious.

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BTW, mind if I asked, you're on stock ROM right? Any fancy tweaks on your phone? Like OC? Just curious.
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Yep, as of a couple days ago, I'm officially off TrueAncestor and back on stock 2.3.4 (no disrespect for Jikkyu - he's the man for that rom and all, but it was crippling my memory and eating my battery life alive)... and to be totally honest, I don't know the first thing about tweaks
I did root and debloat it, but that's about it unless we count "child's play"-level stuff like pushing a SystemUI that has toggles.

What Do Other People Think Of Your Play?

Was looking for something that went underneath the Sofa and couldn't be asked to find a torch so used the Rear 'LED' Flash light, much to the amazement of others as they thought it was incredibly brighter compared to their iCraps.
What other things have people said about your Play?

AW: What Do Other People Think Of Your Play?
This phone has for other people mostly a nerd, gamer and no-life factor

Well a lot of people like the gamepad. When you mention games like GTA, some peoples interest increases. Through all the tweaks and various great work of the developers on here, my phone runs quite smooth and handles well meaning it isn't really trashed for being old and outdated. It does lag or slow down sometimes but i guess that's to be expected. Some just call it a "PSP phone"
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Odp: What Do Other People Think Of Your Play?
UndisputedGuy said:
Some just call it a "PSP phone"
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One time someone was even thinking that it can run every game from PSP, not tech guy tho
Some people are whining about outdated hardware, but when I ask them what can their phone do which mine can't they can't really say and they always play games which don't even need sd data
Other people say that not many games are optimised for it, I ask for example and then after they hear that almost every example is optimised they shut up
Other people agree with me that it's the best phone for gaming.
My Best Friends are bit jealous of 4 different roms of any choice (gb, ics, jb) but they don't play as hard as I do on phone even though they agree that it is a good phone.
Overall opinion is poor but after I slide the game pad people realise what it is and mostly they change their opinion to good/very good.
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Everyone that asks me what phone do I have, after I open the slider, they realize that no matter what phone they have, just looks like a toy (with expensive/unnecessary gadgets to accomplish what the integrated gamepad of the XPlay does) in front of my Xperia Play.
In my country/area there are a generalized gaming culture, so that's the cause of this reaction.
Yeah, never missing that person that thinks it can run PSP games (although thanks to PPSSPP maybe in the future, at least struggling), the form factor deceives anyone

People:
OmG D00d youR f0ne iS S0 c00l! D0 Y0u h4ve Min3 Cr4ft??
OmG d00 y0U w4nna C my wurlD?
Me:
Get your hands off me you filthy casual, I'm playing pokemon blue.

Strangely enough; it always goes like this:
"is that an xperia? Who still uses xperia phones?"
::slides out game pad, loads up Dead Space::
"WHAT?! THAT IS AMAZING! WHERE DO I GET ONE?!"
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Everyone was always like Whoa a gamepad? Thats awsome!
So how powerfull was this phone? Hahaha nevermind ill keep my dual / quad core phone.
Yet it runs every game i want to play and keeps me entertained during the long busrides.

It's usually like this:
- Hey, what's your phone model?
- Uhm.. it's just a 2011 xperia...
- Oh, an arc or something?
- It's actually a play...
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I don't even know why they drool so much over it, anyways

In my case... my friends say it's a dead phone... coz nowadays you can find better things for the same price...

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In my case... my friends say it's a dead phone... coz nowadays you can find better things for the same price...
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The Nexus 4, which is one of the best phones you can buy is $300 dollars.

Most of them are jealous, even though they say "I don't play with my phone". Of course not. Playing with touchscreen is horrible...

TLRtheory said:
Strangely enough; it always goes like this:
"is that an xperia? Who still uses xperia phones?"
::slides out game pad, loads up Dead Space::
"WHAT?! THAT IS AMAZING! WHERE DO I GET ONE?!"
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SPOT ON!

sufy1000 said:
TLRtheory said:
Strangely enough; it always goes like this:
"is that an xperia? Who still uses xperia phones?"
::slides out game pad, loads up Dead Space::
"WHAT?! THAT IS AMAZING! WHERE DO I GET ONE?!"
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LOL... they just tell me... Why do I need that gamepad... I can use my PS3 controller... pfff... I imagine them with a PS3 gamepad on their pockets XD

My sis thinks its cool and she almost bought one for herself but went with Neo instead (because she didnt want to have the same phone as I did)
Yeah, surprisingly many people get excited when they see GTA 3 on it, few people wanted to go even more indepth than games and appearance (like specs)
Also before I had bought my XPlay, some cellphone store worker was interested about XPlay when we asked did they have any (they only had Arc), he said its a shame they are not selling it because he would have loved to try it out or even buy it. This was way after XPlay's retail release, like 6 months afterwards so he was genuinely interested about it.

On top of the one I said, a Common one is that its a Brick!

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Hahahaha yep.

Person: *starts up an SNES, NES, or Genesis emulator* "Wow, this is really cool! I want one"
Me: "I know right!"
Person: *starts up any 3D game made in the last year*
Xperia Play: *plays game at 10FPS*
Person: This phone $#@'in sucks!
Me: "I know right"
That's why it's up on eBay, hoping it can go to someone who can enjoy it more than I did.

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That's why it's up on eBay, hoping it can go to someone who can enjoy it more than I did.
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Unless you really need the money, I would keep the phone. It's really a one of a kind.
I remember the first time I took my PLAY out of the box.. it was so beautiful, I simply couldn't put it down. Whenever I pick this phone up again and just look at it, I still get that feeling of how special it is. I own quite a few 'nice' phones, but none of them give me that sensation of awesomeness that the Xperia Play does. That's why I will never part with it.

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Person: *starts up any 3D game made in the last year*
Xperia Play: *plays game at 10FPS*
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Really? Because all the recent notable Play Store releases from Modern Combat 4, Aralon, Scaresoul, ME: Infiltrator, Dark Knight Rises, NOVA 3, Dead Trigger, Repulze all the way up to Bladeslinger runs like a dream on Xperia Play, and there's been topics dedicated to Xperia Play running current-gen games with extraordinary performance.
What'd YOU do to your Xperia Play to get current games running at 10FPS?
I got a stock ROM without as much as Chainfire, and Xperia Play handles 'em like they were made for it.