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So, Engadget say's Eee Pad is better than Xoom

I guess the IPS Screen, Keyboard Dock, and 100$ - Price was enough to warrant it being "the best honeycomb tablet to date"
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/18/asus-eee-pad-transformer-uk-edition-review/
really Engadget?

You tell me why can't eeepad better than xoom? I bought my xoom last week, and I still love it . But I really can't deny that eeepad is better, at least its screen and hardware design. I hate the volume button, power button on my xoom.
P/s: price comparison isnt big deal for me cause I bought my new xoom 32gb wifi version only $530^^
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I just read that review and must admit that it struck me as a little odd. They make more of the screen than the software quirks that they appear to be experiencing with it.
My experience with the xoom is not too bad but there are certainly some things that need to be improved. Mostly software and a honeycomb update would be good. The screen is certainly not terrible and it seems at least on a par with the iPad 2 that my wife has.

s.t.s said:
I just read that review and must admit that it struck me as a little odd. They make more of the screen than the software quirks that they appear to be experiencing with it.
My experience with the xoom is not too bad but there are certainly some things that need to be improved. Mostly software and a honeycomb update would be good. The screen is certainly not terrible and it seems at least on a par with the iPad 2 that my wife has.
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I agree with you. Get software improvement is more important. I just wait for next honeycomb update, and my xoom will blow I-tampon away ^^
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This thing is way to big for me! Looks giant next to the xoom. It's obviously not all about thinness and weight.

rjoudrey said:
This thing is way to big for me! Looks giant next to the xoom. It's obviously not all about thinness and weight.
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Well the xoom is slightly heavier, but agree on the size. The eeePad Transformer looks to be over an inch longer and wider, making it just past the 'comfort' dimensions. For example, I can grasp the xoom in portrait mode with one hand; I wouldn't be able to do that with the transformer. This means that the xoom is superior for my needs until the Samsung 8.9 tab comes out...

gadgetluva said:
Well the xoom is slightly heavier, but agree on the size. The eeePad Transformer looks to be over an inch longer and wider, making it just past the 'comfort' dimensions. For example, I can grasp the xoom in portrait mode with one hand; I wouldn't be able to do that with the transformer. This means that the xoom is superior for my needs until the Samsung 8.9 tab comes out...
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Actually, because the bezel is larger, it looks like it makes it easier to grasp with one hand (haven't tried it, could be wrong).
I find the Xoom slightly difficult to hold in one hand after holding it up for some time because I can't grip it in as far as I like without touching the visible screen.

pure Google experience means faster updates. No thanks ASUS

shouldn't that say "engadget says the eee pad is better than the xoom based on their wonky criteria"? I've got to say, I don't really put much stock in the engadget reviews - ever since they gave the ipad2 a 9 and the xoom a 7 or a 6 or whatever they gave it. They seem to lionize the ability to consume content and summed up their review with "Overall, what attracts us to the Transformer over the Xoom is ASUS' intelligent button and camera placement". I've never had a problem with the xoom camera, but that's just me. Of course, it makes sense when you think about their jobs - they aren't quite journalists, aren't freelancers, and are all in their 20s. When you have real work to do your criteria markedly change.
when i compare my xoom to my iphone 4 I like the xoom a lot more and frankly, that's all that really matters: what i think about it.

rmmorse81 said:
pure Google experience means faster updates. No thanks ASUS
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The Asus is a pretty pure machine - contrary to rumours and speculation you may have read, it is not "skinned" and does not have a customised UI.
The only extras are Polaris Office, a DNLA WiFi network browser/player , some widgets and a screencap function (long press on "History") - Oh, they have also got a working Card Slot.
None of the above should prevent it getting fast updates.
It's taken Motorola a few months not to get their card slot working although they do blame Google.

htc6500uk said:
The Asus is a pretty pure machine - contrary to rumours and speculation you may have read, it is not "skinned" and does not have a customised UI.
The only extras are Polaris Office, a DNLA WiFi network browser/player , some widgets and a screencap function (long press on "History") - Oh, they have also got a working Card Slot.
None of the above should prevent it getting fast updates.
It's taken Motorola a few months not to get their card slot working although they do blame Google.
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Point taken. My bad

One item that is important to me that the Asus doesn't have is dual band wifi.

i recently got my wifi xoom the hardware is what sold me on it feels solid and clean I'm staying with my xoom because I feel motorola will support us

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Exactly. +1000 to you good sir. This is what I keep saying a s well. As an owner of a Motorola Xoom I know I will get updates before ANY Honeycomb'd device that is skinned. It's just like the Nexus line of phones. They got Gingerbread before anyone else (and still have it until a DEV bakes it into their ROM).
Pure Google Experience FTW. Everyday of the week.

DeerChaser said:
One item that is important to me that the Asus doesn't have is dual band wifi.
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This is very important. How can Asus leave out such an important part of a WiFi device. Dual Band is NEEDED for a WiFi only device

kelvie said:
Actually, because the bezel is larger, it looks like it makes it easier to grasp with one hand (haven't tried it, could be wrong).
I find the Xoom slightly difficult to hold in one hand after holding it up for some time because I can't grip it in as far as I like without touching the visible screen.
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Sorry bigger is never better. At least when it comes to tablets.

i meant grasping like palming a basketball.

I think I would still go with the xoom. I am more confident in motorola's build quality than asus. Moreover, the xoom is pure google and should quickly get updates. I see the asus as more geared towards the asian market with its cheaper price, but probably worse support (at least that has been my experience with the tiawainese computer companies).
Having said that every android 3.0 device that comes out increases the install base and therefore pressure for google to release more updates for android and hopefully more tablet apps.
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Who cares about Engadget anyway? Their "reviews" are hardly reviews and only seems to be a bashing contest everything non-apple.

htc6500uk said:
The Asus is a pretty pure machine - contrary to rumours and speculation you may have read, it is not "skinned" and does not have a customised UI.
The only extras are Polaris Office, a DNLA WiFi network browser/player , some widgets and a screencap function (long press on "History") - Oh, they have also got a working Card Slot.
None of the above should prevent it getting fast updates.
It's taken Motorola a few months not to get their card slot working although they do blame Google.
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Actually the Xoom has working SD card. (thanks Tiamat 1.3.1) In my experience, DLNA has been a pain, and most manufacturer software additions are pointless. that said, I haven't played with the Asus, but I would be willing to bet there is not much value added by those apps.
Im sure someone else has/will point this out, just had to say it.

Acer Icona or ASUS Eepad

My birthday is next weekend and the fiance is thinking about purchasing a tablet for me. The Flyer is another option, however I'm thinking the dual cores may not get outdated as quickly. Unfortunately the Xoom is a little too much.
Opinions?
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The xoom is outrageously priced I think
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I'm partial to the Asus over the Flyer. I'm in love with the attachable keyboard/battery.
Iconia just can't match it for the price =\

I agree with both of you gents
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Nook color... lots of cyanogen support plus its half the price!
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Despite some of the little quirks, the Asus is a solid tablet. Beautiful hardware quality.

Transformer has the best value for your fiance's money. Unless you can't live without a USB port built into the tablet, you can't beat the price for what you get. I love mine, can't imagine not having it now

Actually finding it next to impossible to locate the ASUS in stock. Sounds like I may be picking up a Galaxy Tab 10.1 on launch day. No Touchwiz and from the reviews sounds like it's the bomb.
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BrandoKC said:
Actually finding it next to impossible to locate the ASUS in stock. Sounds like I may be picking up a Galaxy Tab 10.1 on launch day. No Touchwiz and from the reviews sounds like it's the bomb.
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ASUS has been ramping up production and supposed to be able to deliver enough for demand this month. So hopefully they start popping up before the tab

The view sonic dual cores are pretty good for the money
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The view sonic dual cores are pretty good for the money
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ASUS is dual-core, too.
Let me tell you this, the Iconia is junk. I played with it in store right next to the Transformer. The Iconia feels cheap, looks cheap, is thicker than the Xoom, the software is UGH, and the bootloader is locked down tighter than a royal virgin with a metal chastity belt. The development community is NOT behind this device like the TF101 and Xoom.
The ASUS feels great, it's noticeably lighter than both the Xoom and the Iconia. ASUS's significant lack of messing with the UI makes it great, imo. It has some good bundled apps that are actually useful unlike most other bundled apps. The screen is beautiful since it's an IPS display. Very responsive on 3.1 and fast.
I'm an ASUS fanboy but for very good reasons - they never fail to disappoint in quality. I love the Transformer over the Xoom and the Iconia. It's worth the $550 to get it with the keyboard dock. If the keyboard, touchpad, and 16 hours of total battery life don't sway you, then I don't know what will. Netarchy is also developing kernels for it.
As a previous owner of a Nook Color and a current owner of a Transformer, there's no competition. Don't go for the GTab or anything else. The Transformer is the best deal out there for bang for buck. It outperforms and out-classes all of the current Honeycomb tablets and is miles better than any of the Froyo/Gingerbread tablets. The only thing I find wanting is being able to use something like the HTC Scribe with it.

EEE Pad looks amazing!

definitely the eee pad. i have it and it's awesome. the dock is nice addition, and you'll need it for the USB (at least until the dedicated usb adapters are released)
rooting is not as easy as the shift, and you can only do it under certain firmwares (namely the stock) so don't do any updates until you do (you can always downgrade to the right firmware, but that's just additional steps you probably want to avoid). as tempted as you might be to jump immidiately to 3.1 (which btw, the iconia do not have yet, it's gonna come out eventually, but asus beat them to the punch)
there's some prevalent issues with it though, which if you have OCD, might drive you crazy, but if you're somewhere near normal, should be tolerable. the most prevalent issue being light bleed around the lower-left-to-right and right side. depending on how lucky you are, it might not even be there. and if you're unlucky, you'll only see it when you're screen is show black around the edges, and you have brightness set to 100%.
lastly, although the TF is now coming in stock, it's still a bit of a lottery whether or not you can actually find it in store. http://www.nowinstock.net is your friend.
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Thank you!
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How about a Samsung Chromebook?
I actually bought one (impulse buy) and should be here by next week...

I have a cr48, and it's been great, but since I hacked it and installed ubuntu, I rarely boot up the chrome os... It boots damn near as fast as it did before and I can do a lot more
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Transformer is over rated.

Y because the hardware is sub-par. It's creeky, backing feels hollow, light bleed (no that bad), and them speakers suck my big toe (crackle at max). This is my second Transformer I only gave it another chance because I liked the size (thinness) compared to the other tabs in its price range. Anyway I sold it for a HTC Flyer since we already own a Acer A500 and Thrive (wife and son). Compared the the other tabs the Transformer was the worst quality, IMO. Reg updates are great and probably the best thing it has going for it. My other honeycomb tabs are better quality and have are more functional with the ports. I'm more satisfied with the HTC Flyer becuz its solid even though its not running the latest software, it has way less issues then the Transformer.
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thanks for a useless post.
Sorry but i adore my TF.

Cool story bro.
Now what does this have to do with developing something for the Transformer?

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Cool story bro.
Now what does this have to do with developing something for the Transformer?
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Last time I looked this.is.the general forum. Anyways look at the last few post from people the QUALITY is notbthat great. And i have been owning tabs since 2008 and this is a rushed product.
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do not go to forums just to talk badly about the devices keep you dam opinions to yourself

Is Xoom the answer?

Hello all.
I am a owner of a new Asus Transformer Prime (it's my first tablet). I'm really frustrated with a few issues; mainly the wifi is spotty and the GPS is barely functional. I'm debating on whether or not I should return it and get a Xoom.
I know the Prime has a few better specs (super IPS, quad-core), but I would rather have a dependable and fully-functioning device than the latest and greatest with some issues that need to be kinked out.
Are there any annoying issues with Xoom or should I just pull the trigger?
Edit: Returned the Prime and got the Xoom. I've had it for a couple days now; I like it much better than the Prime. Everything works and the build quality is better.

You'll be disappointed with the screen coming from IPS. Going from the Xoom to the Xyboard, the screen quality difference is night and day. The Xoom will also be noticeably slower I'm sure, though it's better with some of the ICS builds out there. Does custom roms matter to you or do you want a tablet that has high build quality and works damned well? Xyboard would be my answer if it's the latter, unless you're considering the Xoom because of budget or for custom roms.
Can see my Xyboard review here...

Thanks for the reply. Yeah, I don't want to drop the money on the newer Motorola tablet. I'm trying to keep it lower than the $500 price point. I'm looking to get a device that is issue-free (for the most part). I don't need the latest and greatest.
The Prime might be faster, but not when the stupid WiFi on the thing cuts out. Page loading just comes to a dead stop.

I'm sure those problems will be short lived. You have the best device on the market arm. Be patient.
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skinien said:
Thanks for the reply. Yeah, I don't want to drop the money on the newer Motorola tablet. I'm trying to keep it lower than the $500 price point. I'm looking to get a device that is issue-free (for the most part). I don't need the latest and greatest.
The Prime might be faster, but not when the stupid WiFi on the thing cuts out. Page loading just comes to a dead stop.
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I have owned the Wifi only Xoom since April and it was already my third Android tablet. I had wanted to buy the original transformer, but they weren't available, so I bought the Xoom, and I'm so glad I did!
The Xoom has a super build, great wifi and real, not 'assisted,' gps, fast dual core cpu that can be overclocked up to 1.7 ghz (I can run stable at 1.6) with custom Honeycomb roms/kernels and active ICS development. My screen is just fine...naturalistic colors won't pop your eyes out, but a non-glare screen protector makes it easier to see in sunlight. That's not been a problem for me. In case you can't tell, I love my Xoom. Some of these guys just want newest/fastest and couldn't care less about what really works.

I have both and definitely returning this second prime I have. The xoom might be slower in what, game?! maybe, not that I notice. Benchmark I could careless, more interested real world performance. The xoom with 5 megapixel camera is better in my comparison, beside megapixel means nada. Xoom video recording in low light blows the Prime out the water, high light doesn't matter they all perform well, hell even my 2 year old Evo 4 g is good in high or day light. Only thing I like about the prime over the xoom is super IPS for outdoor, weight, and battery (a bit better than the xoom). But with the screen bleed, dead pixel on both unit I have, flipping non usable GPS, IMO the Prime RIGHT now is not worth the high price. I got my xoom a couple week ago from best buy open box for 348.
If you can get the xoom for cheap I say go for it. if your paying over 400 I say wait til the problem for Prime to get sorted out or wait for something to drop after CES, that's my thought.

Well, I returned the prime and got the wifi xoom for 399. Better product. Really happy with it!
Looking forward to overclocking this thing. I know that Google has released AOSP ICS for the xoom... looking forward to messing with that too.
The internet speed is EXTREMELY faster on the Xoom. The browsing experience is much better.
I went through the GPS fiasco with the Galaxy S. I have learned not to tolerate a malfunctioning device with hope that the bug can/will be fixed through an OTA.
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The Xoom is horrible. No redeeming qualities at all. If you're considering a switch the Transformer is a much much better choice.
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MikeyMike01 said:
The Xoom is horrible. No redeeming qualities at all. If you're considering a switch the Transformer is a much much better choice.
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Wow, do you even own one?
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skinien said:
Well, I returned the prime and got the wifi xoom for 399. Better product. Really happy with it!
Looking forward to overclocking this thing. I know that Google has released AOSP ICS for the xoom... looking forward to messing with that too.
The internet speed is EXTREMELY faster on the Xoom. The browsing experience is much better.
I went through the GPS fiasco with the Galaxy S. I have learned not to tolerate a malfunctioning device with hope that the bug can/will be fixed through an OTA.
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Great choice...I don't think you'll regret it. There are lots of resources/guides for rooting/flashing custom roms/kernels, including the quite stable ICS alpha nightlies, and I think you'll enjoy your Xoom for quite a while to come.

I would have stuck it out cause once the few launch issues are fixed it will be an awesome tablet. I understand the budget and wanting in on the tablet fun now though. The xoom is really easily the next choice. I like it and I can't wait to see how much better it gets with ICS coming from motorola to fix the last few items missing.

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The Xoom is horrible. No redeeming qualities at all. If you're considering a switch the Transformer is a much much better choice.
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Thanks for the input but can you give reasons for your strong opinion?

okantomi said:
Great choice...I don't think you'll regret it. There are lots of resources/guides for rooting/flashing custom roms/kernels, including the quite stable ICS alpha nightlies, and I think you'll enjoy your Xoom for quite a while to come.
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Thanks! I've been playing with it for a few hours now and I love it so far. The Prime had a better screen but the Xoom seems to be a solid device. The Prime had touch screen issues, GPS issues, WiFi issues, the SINGLE speaker was too quiet, and the Xoom is much more comfortable to hold. The Prime's thin, tapered edges gave it an awkward feeling.
I'm going to mess around with it stock for a few days and then I'm going to dig into the development section.

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The Xoom is horrible. No redeeming qualities at all. If you're considering a switch the Transformer is a much much better choice.
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I'm pretty sure you don't own one at all with that comment.
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latinmaxima said:
I would have stuck it out cause once the few launch issues are fixed it will be an awesome tablet. I understand the budget and wanting in on the tablet fun now though. The xoom is really easily the next choice. I like it and I can't wait to see how much better it gets with ICS coming from motorola to fix the last few items missing.
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When I first bought my Galaxy S, there were issues with lag and GPS. I "stuck it out" thinking that the issues would be fixed with OTA's and development. They haven't. Like I said in the OP, I have learned my lesson and won't put up with a product that malfunctions on day of purchase.

Then you would have sold your xoom on its initial release. Don't get me wrong I love my xoom...but would have gladly traded it for your prime
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Then you would have sold your xoom on its initial release. Don't get me wrong I love my xoom...but would have gladly traded it for your prime
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What was wrong with the Xoom on release? And yes, I would have returned the Xoom if it wasn't working properly either. Its dumb to keep a device that is flawed until you're certain that it can/will be fixed. That isn't the case for the Prime. Considering that the Prime's WiFi gets 1/10 of the speeds as my phone and Xoom (in addition to cutting out completely) it was very frustrating to use. There was also a non-functional GPS, touch screen response issues, yellow/washed out screen, and too many force closes. Who knows which if these issues are fixable and will be fixed. Comparing the Xoom and Prime in their CURRENT state, the Xoom is better.
A device needs more than fancy hardware to work properly.
Edit: Oh, and the single speaker on the Prime is horrible.

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Wow, do you even own one?
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I did, for 85 days before it went back to Costco.
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@Skinien: glad to hear you're enjoying your new Xoom, bro. Of the 1st generation crop of 10.1" Honeycomb tablets the Xoom is, IMHO, the most well-rounded of the bunch as far as function and, to a lesser extent, form. I was all but dead set on buying a Transformer Prime until reading about your experience with it.
@MikeyMike01: What exactly was wrong with the Xoom that left a sour taste?
@LatinMaxima: I agree. I flashed an ICS ROM for a few minutes a few days ago and loved it. The little pet peeves I have with Honeycomb like having to refresh the GMail widgets and the Market two or three times before each use are fixed. It looks and feels much more polished but the lack of camera functionality and bluetooth are dealbreakers for me so it's Honeycomb until those issues are fixed.
For now, my Xoom serves my needs well and will stay with me...pending any upcoming CES and MWC announcements.

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>I did, for 85 days before it went back to Costco.
So you took a $600 Xoom and used it for 3 months before returning it. In effect you cost the company $600. Way to abuse the store's return policy. It's people like you that raise prices and destroys return policies for the rest of us.
Your tag line says you're a developer. Let's hope what goes around, comes around.

Having issues with Prime wifi. Best bet to get TF101?

So I received my Transformer Prime today and am having wifi issues (very poor connection strength). Also, I have a group of very bright pixels on the screen.
I know there is a new Transformer tablet in the works that has significantly better specs...so I'd be best to wait. In the meantime, I found a mint TF101 with docking keyboard for $350. Everything checks out and it seems like a great package for the price. This coupled with ICS arriving in two weeks for the TF101 makes it a reasonable decision to return the defective Prime and get this original TF101 w/keyboard.
Is this a good move? I've never owned the original Transformer and hope that it is plenty fast to play flash content. Anyone care to offer a POV on this decision?
I plan on getting the newer Transformer in Q2 when it's rumored to release.

i think you should go for it !

I returned my Prime due to the "Unknown Serial Number", and bought the TF101. Although WiFi wasn't bad on my Prime, it is better on my TF101. My TF101 also performs flawlessly, and doesn't have any of the common issues some of the Primes suffer from. I'm happy I "downgraded".

I am in the same situation. I was contemplating the TF101 vs TF201. It was not an issue of money, though availability became an issue as TF201 stock got sold out. I just wanted a flawless Internet experience so having poor wifi was not good. It seems like Asus is in flux right now so better to get a stable machine. I will see what happens at the end of the year, maybe upgrade to TF700. I originally got a Windows tab which actually was not that bad of a touch experience. I had the Acer W500 which is the same form factor as the prime basically with the 10" tab and keyboard dock. It was also heavy, slow and the battery life was poor (<5 hours). I think the TF101 will be a lot of fun.

try the squeeze trick before returning. takes a couple seconds and ive heard it helps a lot of plagued tf201s. cant find the vid but just squeeze just above the entire top of the screen just enough to cause a little light bleed

try the squeeze trick before returning. takes a couple seconds and ive heard it helps a lot of plagued tf201s. cant find the vid but just squeeze just above the entire top of the screen just enough to cause a little light bleed
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But that isn't going to help the OP's pixel issue and pixel deformities are annoying as ****.
Just return it and either get the TF101 or wait for the TF700T. Really the TF101 should be much easier to find and much cheaper. You'll have less of a hassle finding it and it's tried and true. It was much too early for them to release the prime so it's not like you're losing something.

Interesting to see that I am not alone on this.
This week I returned my 3rd prime and was very close to say "Screw Asus" and look for a Windows tablet but then I thought why not give the original Transformer a shot. I got it yesterday and have to admit I am really impressed.
Everything works as it should, it has two USB ports instead of one, stereo speakers instead of one, a better hardware keyboard (at least in my opinion), the USB transfer rate seems to be much better, the screen seems to be more responsive and it is much cheaper.
And the funniest thing of em all: I don´t know why but it is even faster than Prime. Of course not in 3D games or stuff like that or 1080p videos etc.
But while doing normal usage, e-mailing, writing, watching videos, browsing etc.
And I havn´t even tried a custom ROM, yet.
Just to make this clear: I am comparing ICS Prime (three actually) to HC original Transformer. Which makes no sense to me.
So, the only few things that are better about the Prime are (in my opinion):
- It looks better
- It "look" better manufactured
- Slightly better battery life
- Slightly better display
- Smaller and lighter
And since I am planning to keep my Transformer only for a few months until the Padfone or the TF700 is out I think this was a really good decision.

prime is a prototype.. not ready for the public. it tells others that quad core is now possible/.

Came lookin' for the same question/answer. Have the T201 and has issues like 80% of everyone else. Bluetooth/wifi is a joke on the 201...I love using it for remote access to my Win7 box, but seems that when I'm streaming Spotify, if cuts out and loses connection. And, this is upstairs from my router 15 feet a way.
I guess it's time to research the h*** out of the T101 like I did the 201. 399 at bestbuy this week...will search for cheaper this week . . .

Me Too...Prime's WiFi WeaK Compared to Other Tablets
Thank you OP and other posters.
I too am about to return my Prime, and was wondering about the TF101 as a replacement.
I don't do much gaming but decided to buy the Prime since it was supposed to be state-of-the-art. Well, the WiFi just isn't as good as other tablets I've tested, both the Samsung Galaxy 10.1 and HTC Flyer get better WiFi at distance. I've moved my router and changed router settings so I get satisfactory WiFi now at home, but I'm worried about weak WiFi when I travel.
Son (who has the Galaxy 10.1) says I should return the Prime. So, now what to get? The Galaxy 10.1 looks like a very strong performer (especially so in WiFi), but was looking to see if the Original Transformer TF101 would be a good fit for me.
Just wondering what you all think? What will I "lose" if I "downgrade" to the Tf101?

Ride525 said:
Thank you OP and other posters.
I too am about to return my Prime, and was wondering about the TF101 as a replacement.
I don't do much gaming but decided to buy the Prime since it was supposed to be state-of-the-art. Well, the WiFi just isn't as good as other tablets I've tested, both the Samsung Galaxy 10.1 and HTC Flyer get better WiFi at distance. I've moved my router and changed router settings so I get satisfactory WiFi now at home, but I'm worried about weak WiFi when I travel.
Son (who has the Galaxy 10.1) says I should return the Prime. So, now what to get? The Galaxy 10.1 looks like a very strong performer (especially so in WiFi), but was looking to see if the Original Transformer TF101 would be a good fit for me.
Just wondering what you all think? What will I "lose" if I "downgrade" to the Tf101?
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Some pixels and the buggy software lol
I like Samsung, but galaxy does not have dock and Samsung had minimal support updates. Asus is spot on with their updates, despite the delay on ics for the tf101..

luna_c666 said:
Some pixels and the buggy software lol
I like Samsung, but galaxy does not have dock and Samsung had minimal support updates. Asus is spot on with their updates, despite the delay on ics for the tf101..
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Lose some pixels? What do you mean? Don't the Original Transformer and the Prime have the same resolution?
And what do you mean by buggy software? Is the Original Transformer's software more buggy, than the Primes? In what way? Or do you mean the Prime has more buggy software?
Thanks for any thoughts on my possible "downgrade".

Ride525 said:
Just wondering what you all think? What will I "lose" if I "downgrade" to the Tf101?
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Someone09 said:
So, the only few things that are better about the Prime are (in my opinion):
- It looks better
- It "look" better manufactured
- Slightly better battery life
- Slightly better display
- Smaller and lighter
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In short: If you can handle the size/weight and looks of the TF101, you should get it. Just my two cents.
EDIT: And of course the Prime´s camera is better and it behaves better with 3D games etc...at least in theory.

Ride525 said:
Lose some pixels? What do you mean? Don't the Original Transformer and the Prime have the same resolution?
And what do you mean by buggy software? Is the Original Transformer's software more buggy, than the Primes? In what way? Or do you mean the Prime has more buggy software?
Thanks for any thoughts on my possible "downgrade".
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You are right, my bad they do have the same size screen (I was thinking of the TF700) but the TF Prime has the 'Super IPS' screen and has more brightness (nits), but the ICS update has been bricking people's Primes, it also has crappy wifi/bluetooth as reported..
I say the TF101 is a safer bet, the TF201 is more a prototype as mentioned..not really ready for commercial consumption, more like the icebreaker paving the way for the real cargo ship (TF700)

luna_c666 said:
[...] but the TF Prime has the 'Super IPS' screen and has more brightness (nits), [...]
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That is true, too. The question is if it worth it.
I mean if you turn Super IPS mode + highest brightness settings you might easily get a sunburn from it...I don´t need that setting.

Your only really option is to get the TF101. Everything else is not preferable based on price : features or price : performance ratio.
With the Galaxy Tab 10.1 you're paying too much for what you're getting, that is good hardware and a good design but no or little updates. The hardware is roughly comparable to the TF101 so really all that you're getting out of it is good design, no expansion slot, no/little updates and pay more. Do not want.
The TF101 hits the sweet spot in terms of what you get for how much you pay and you're guaranteed to get ICS and most likely more updates after that. We've been getting updates for HC like what, once or twice every two months? Don't even think you'll see anything close to that with Sammy. Maybe one update a year or two.
The TF201 is good looking and good hardware and it shares the same Asus speed in terms of upgrades but the connectivity and build quality + launch issues leave a lot to be desired. It's confidence shaking, would I want to keep a tablet where the Wi-Fi and GPS are already **** and there's a possibility it might get worse? For $500 and with a successor already on the horizon? Do not want. Really it was a rushed, piece of garbage that's DOA. This is what happened when they decided to rush something rather than do their time with more R&D and releasing it in a more suitable time frame. They should have released the Prime when the TF700T is scheduled to be released (whatever date that is) which in my eyes puts the TF700T as what the Prime should have been, AKA the fix.

Tubular said:
They should have released the Prime when the TF700T is scheduled to be released (whatever date that is) which in my eyes puts the TF700T as what the Prime should have been, AKA the fix.
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Amen to that.
Plus, I hope the same applies to the Padfone.

The TF101 has much better WiFi than the Prime.
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using Tapatalk

ericshmerick said:
I know there is a new Transformer tablet in the works that has significantly better specs...so I'd be best to wait. In the meantime, I found a mint TF101 with docking keyboard for $350. Everything checks out and it seems like a great package for the price. This coupled with ICS arriving in two weeks for the TF101 makes it a reasonable decision to return the defective Prime and get this original TF101 w/keyboard.
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Honestly, the TF101 will likely be better than that successor model, too. The latter has far too high screen resolution, which will lead to problems in some apps, give no advantage at all in most apps (just extra blur from scaling), and cause eye strain in some apps. As an added bonus, it'll reduce battery life and make everything slower.
All so Asus can put a bigger-is-better number on a spec sheet.
They got it right with the TF101, by and large. They're struggling to invent a reason for people to upgrade, and not doing a great job of it.

Being an early adopter of the TF101(my first one was a B40) I had to deal with the pain of owning a new model. Asus has been right on time with their updates and they pay attention to what people post on the internet. It is my opinion that in a few months the Prime will be ready for prime time. But until then I will do my best to wear out my B50 Transformer. It is a great little device totally stock.