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Hello all!
I'm happy to report I've just ordered an HTC Vogue, and I've got two quick questions. I will not have a data plan with this phone, so my first question is this: does the weather screen require a data connection to update? If the data connection is disabled, what appears on that screen?
Secondly, I plan to use the GPS function of the phone with Tomtom. Will I be able to transfer files to the MicroSD card via the USB connection using ActiveSync, or will I need to get an adapter for the MicroSD card and write the files to it from my desktop PC first?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Bogus
yes it does.........without data plan, you will be paying more than what you should be paying for just simple weather report.
Why don't you get an Opal or Diamond. I think they both have wifi, and you can update when you are at home or where there is internet connection.
It's a bit too late to change my mind at this point. I plan on completely disabling the data transfer on this phone, so I won't be paying anything for that aspect actually. The short version of the story was my old phone died and I was able to get a Vogue for a reasonable price without extending my contract. Unfortunately adding a data plan is not an option for me currently. I don't really need the weather screen, just wondering if it'd function. Guess not. Can it be disabled or not shown? My primary reasons for getting this phone were really its hackability and being able to use GPS without a data plan (using Tomtom and a memory card). I'm not sure about the Opal, but an unlocked Diamond will surely cost three times what I paid for my Vogue.
In any case, do you know the answer to the ActiveSync part of my previous question? I did order an 8GB Sandisk with a USB adapter/reader, so if I have to I can transfer files directly from my PC, but it'd be easier to do it directly through an interface to the phone.
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It's a bit too late to change my mind at this point. I plan on completely disabling the data transfer on this phone, so I won't be paying anything for that aspect actually. The short version of the story was my old phone died and I was able to get a Vogue for a reasonable price without extending my contract. Unfortunately adding a data plan is not an option for me currently. I don't really need the weather screen, just wondering if it'd function. Guess not. Can it be disabled or not shown? My primary reasons for getting this phone were really its hackability and being able to use GPS without a data plan (using Tomtom and a memory card). I'm not sure about the Opal, but an unlocked Diamond will surely cost three times what I paid for my Vogue.
In any case, do you know the answer to the ActiveSync part of my previous question? I did order an 8GB Sandisk with a USB adapter/reader, so if I have to I can transfer files directly from my PC, but it'd be easier to do it directly through an interface to the phone.
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If your tranferring a lot of data, sync the card directly through the PC, it will literally be about 10x faster. But, sync all your music files through the device with WMP. Syncing this way will add all the album covers and info, as long as it's on your PC, for use with an app like S2P.
Thanks for the advice. Ironically, music is what will be filling most of the card. When you say sync the music through WMP, how exactly is that done? If there's a faq or sticky on that I'd be glad to hit the books and stop asking questions. Would I need to have the music files in my Windows Media Player library on my PC and somehow synchronize my library on the Touch? I'm really not familiar with the concept of ActiveSync at all.
Edit: Oh, and one last question.. what is S2P?
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Thanks for the advice. Ironically, music is what will be filling most of the card. When you say sync the music through WMP, how exactly is that done? If there's a faq or sticky on that I'd be glad to hit the books and stop asking questions. Would I need to have the music files in my Windows Media Player library on my PC and somehow synchronize my library on the Touch? I'm really not familiar with the concept of ActiveSync at all.
Edit: Oh, and one last question.. what is S2P?
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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Search for S2P, you're in for a REAL treat. It's part of A_C's slide suite, S2U2 - Slide to Unlock screen locker, like the iP***e, S2V - Slide to View, nice photo browser, and S2P - Slide to Play, just a real kick ass music player ! Unfortunately, there are some sites out there selling his work, so all development has come to a stop. But, be sure to check them out.
Anyways, ActiveSync (XP) , or Windows Mobile Device Center (Vista), primarily is the tool to sync your PIM data, like calendar and contacts, with Outlook. Once your setup with AS or WMDC, open WMP, and open the sync tab. Make sure you only setup the SD card, otherwise when you open your library, only in WMP on the device, it will default to the device memory, kind of a pain.
I personally setup Auto Playlists, so my lists are always updated, something like, "Recently Added", or "Top Rated." When you setup the device, I suggest setting it to auto sync on connect, then all your ratings and play counts are always updated. Then choose your personal playlists, otherwise all your pics and vids will be converted and synced.
Also, if your like me, organize everything neatly. All my track names, artisit, album names, etc are filled in so searching for music is easy. If you use S2P, you may want to make sure the file names make some sort of sense, because in S2P you browse by file name.
Bottom line, if your PC's library is organized well, it will be transferred that way, making listening to music much more enjoyable.
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My primary reasons for getting this phone were really its hackability and being able to use GPS without a data plan (using Tomtom and a memory card).
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not to thread jack, but i thought that you still would need a data plan for the gps to work? or is the gps antenna still in the phone unlike the wifi antenna?
Awesome, that'll work perfectly. And, I just did a bit of reading on WMDC, looks like it allows data connections to be shared with the mobile device too, which means I could dock my phone in the morning at home and download things like Email and weather, and again when I get to work. Can you save email replies while the phone is "offline" (not connected to data) and have them send when the phone is sync'd again? If so it sounds like the only thing I'd be missing on the phone would be the ability to surf the net or email when I'm not at home or at the office... which is OK with me.
I promise that's my last question for now, at least until I get my phone and start working on it. I wish there was some kind of "rep" system on this board- you've been extremely helpful tonight. Thanks!
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not to thread jack, but i thought that you still would need a data plan for the gps to work? or is the gps antenna still in the phone unlike the wifi antenna?
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From what I understand you can use GPS with a navigation application such as Tomtom Navigator, which stores all of its maps on your memory card. It simply uses the GPS to update your present location. At least I certainly hope that's the case. TheChamp or anyone else watching this thread, please feel free to confirm or deny what I've suggested.
Update: This is the thread that gave me that impression. I may try the "offline Google Map" bit too, although I prefer the 3D navigation view. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402069&highlight=GPS+data
that sounds like it could be right, but im wondering how big of a file the gps maps would be now.
Approximately 847MB for the United States and Canada. I don't plan on going to Mexico anytime soon, so I think that'll do. And while it's not exactly a tiny amount, it's certainly an acceptable size considering I'll be working with an 8GB memory card.
nice, i dunno if you got started on it yet but heres a link i found and from what everyone is saying it works great...let me know how it goes..
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=24925
Well, I lied. I do have one more question for TheChamp or someone else "in the know." In a related guide to installing Rev.A/GPS, it mentions that "you cannot take calls while connected to GPS."
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=24979
Keep in mind, you will NOT be able to receive calls or text messages while GPS is active. This is a known bug and to date there is not known fix. It is just something we all have to deal with until someone figures out the missing link.
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(From the GPS How To section)
Is this true? That sounds like a severe limitation. If I'm going on a four hour road trip (which I frequently do for work) I don't want to have to pick between GPS and being able to speak with people. Ouch.
Where to begin !
hockeyizlife94 said:
not to thread jack, but i thought that you still would need a data plan for the gps to work? or is the gps antenna still in the phone unlike the wifi antenna?
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bogus83 said:
From what I understand you can use GPS with a navigation application such as Tomtom Navigator, which stores all of its maps on your memory card. It simply uses the GPS to update your present location. At least I certainly hope that's the case. TheChamp or anyone else watching this thread, please feel free to confirm or deny what I've suggested.
Update: This is the thread that gave me that impression. I may try the "offline Google Map" bit too, although I prefer the 3D navigation view. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402069&highlight=GPS+data
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I have the unlimited plan, so personally I pay no attention to this matter. But, the GPS and data connection are two different aspects. The GPS is like Wi-Fi, in the sense that it operates seperately. The GPS antenna will pick up the sat signals, and the only time I've seen a data connection initiated is when the map images were refreshed. So an app like TomTom with predefined maps should work, since it's simply pin-pointing coordinates to the map.
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Awesome, that'll work perfectly. And, I just did a bit of reading on WMDC, looks like it allows data connections to be shared with the mobile device too, which means I could dock my phone in the morning at home and download things like Email and weather, and again when I get to work. Can you save email replies while the phone is "offline" (not connected to data) and have them send when the phone is sync'd again? If so it sounds like the only thing I'd be missing on the phone would be the ability to surf the net or email when I'm not at home or at the office... which is OK with me.
I promise that's my last question for now, at least until I get my phone and start working on it. I wish there was some kind of "rep" system on this board- you've been extremely helpful tonight. Thanks!
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Yeah, this will work for everything! If you use Outlook, then you can sync your emails through WMDC and it will exchange the emails upon sync. The only downside, when you type up an email in the morning, it won't be sent until your next sync, but it works. Also, there are some apps, like Spb Insight (RSS reader), that will refresh content on sync/dock, makes good for refreshing headlines for the day.
Don't worry about the question! There is plenty to learn here, just be sure to ask in the right areas.
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Well, I lied. I do have one more question for TheChamp or someone else "in the know." In a related guide to installing Rev.A/GPS, it mentions that "you cannot take calls while connected to GPS."
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=24979
(From the GPS How To section)
Is this true? That sounds like a severe limitation. If I'm going on a four hour road trip (which I frequently do for work) I don't want to have to pick between GPS and being able to speak with people. Ouch.
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At first, it seemed logical, since the GPS is enabled on the radio flash, which does affect the phone connection, but I had to test! I never noticed this problem, and from my test, NO problem woooohooooo !
I had six sats connected, called myself from my land line, recieved the call as usual, hung up, and still had all six sats running, not to mention, while obtaining a fix I was recieving email. So, should be good to go with this!
Confirmed: GPS does work on the Sprint Vogue without a data plan, AND can take/make calls at the same time. Interestingly, the first two times I got a lock it took 10-15 minutes. Every time since it's been anywhere from 1-5 minutes, usually closer to two or three. Can't complain about that! I wrote up my entire process, in case anyone has been following this thread. It wasn't very difficult but did involve a fair amount of research before acting, so if you're going to retrace my steps READ THE DIRECTIONS ON EACH PAGE please, so you don't brick your phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2670205&postcount=7
You don't need the data plan to use GPS, HOWEVER if you want to use mapping software you'll have to use the standalone apps like TomTom that store maps on a data card.
With the data plan you can use apps like Windows Live Search and Google Maps that download "live" maps as you cruise.
Both have their advantages. I especially like Google Maps satellite view.
Yup. I've been using Tomtom Navigator, which stores the maps on my MicroSDHC card. It doesn't have satellite view, but it does 2D/3D which is good enough for me.
As the title states, suggest away.
direct sync to outlook .pst
What the [email protected]#$% was MS thinking by leaving this out? Even the iphone syncs to outlook.
mightyeric said:
direct sync to outlook .pst
What the [email protected]#$% was MS thinking by leaving this out? Even the iphone syncs to outlook.
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Jesus, how many times is this going to be brought up? The function is NOT there, and it was known BEFORE any device came out. Quit the *****ing and get a phone that supports it, or move on.
Anyways, I'd like a good sports app like Sportacular that has notifications when games start, during and after with the scores. Fantasy updates with custom rosters would be great too.
Not sure what the SDK will let you do, but is it possible to develop an app that can be pinned to the start page, that toggles 3g/wifi/bluetooth? I know we can just drop in to the Settings menu, but I would pay for an app that put those three in one easy place.
I would also like an app that rotates, like a slideshow I guess, all sorts of images from the various Xbox games I've been playing across the tile. That would look cool on the start page. Maybe it does a Bing image search to find the images to rotate, etc. I'm not a developer, but it was something I thought of earlier today.
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Jesus, how many times is this going to be brought up? The function is NOT there, and it was known BEFORE any device came out. Quit the *****ing and get a phone that supports it, or move on.
Anyways, I'd like a good sports app like Sportacular that has notifications when games start, during and after with the scores. Fantasy updates with custom rosters would be great too.
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this is comming in dec development almost done..
The direct sync with outlook is not possible with the WP7 SDK. That would have to be incorporated into the Zune sync software. The WP7 is meant to be a cloud device so I don't see this coming anytime soon.
The idea about toggling the radios is also not possible im afraid. The SDK does not give developers any direct access to the hardware like that. Hell, we can't even adjust the volume.
rruffman said:
this is comming in dec development almost done..
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love to see more on this...
JMackey said:
The idea about toggling the radios is also not possible im afraid. The SDK does not give developers any direct access to the hardware like that. Hell, we can't even adjust the volume.
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That really blows. Just thinking about what various iPhone and Android apps can do easily, it seems this platform is much more closed than even iPhone's. The key to both Android and iPhones success has been as much the developer community as it has been the solid hardware the apps run on, maybe even more so the developers. The new WP7 hardware seems solid enough so far. If MS doesn't open up the SDK to a greater array of components, this will just continue to lag behind, even fall farther behind.
...Hoping someone can cook up some nice WP7 ROM's
ability to take any music file and assign it as a ringtone!
an independent youtube app that doesnt simply goto a web page. Also bein able to watch high def on 3g, and not only on a wifi connection.
TOA Duck said:
an independent youtube app that doesnt simply goto a web page. Also bein able to watch high def on 3g, and not only on a wifi connection.
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There's already one in the Marketplace for free. You have to have the YouTube app installed to use it, but it allows for searching, etc. from within the App.
prubin said:
ability to take any music file and assign it as a ringtone!
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This is supposedly coming in January according to reports this morning. See: http://www.wpcentral.com/rumor-january-firmware-update-wp7-include-custom-ringer-support-more
(Sorry, forgot to multi-quote.)
not sure if you can make do this or not, but I would like to be able to connect to hidden networks. Also be able to use the device as a wifi router.
Could it be made downward compatible? It would be nice to be able to run some of my already-purchased software.
As an alternative, the single-largest bummer of making this switch for me will be loss of the two coolest apps I have EVER had – “Pocket Earth”, and “Pocket World” by Bluepoint Studios. These apps, especially Pocket Earth, were stunning! I don’t know their status, but if you could buy the rights and the code and somehow rewrite them for WP7, I suspect you would do very well.
I need programs which are NOT web-dependent. Dictionaries, translation programs, an atlas, etc. which are device-based. Traveling internationally is where one needs the language converters and I work a lot on the plane. I’d prefer to give up space in the device than to continually pay for international data.
Best of luck,
Dave
Battery indicator showing remaining strength in percentage or bars.
A recorder...
There are a few out there, but I need it to either have voice activated start/stop, or stop/start control from my bluetooth. I am a sports photographer, and if I can describe what is on a picture that I take right after I take it, it is much easier to do my captioning when I get home. But I don't have time to take the phone out of my pocket and start/stop after each play.
It seems a lot of the suggestions are things to do with hardware. The only hardware access the SDK gives developers is the GPS, Accelerometer, and the radio. We don't even have direct access to the camera. (When an app takes a picture, it opens the camera app then sends the taken picture back to the app).
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There's already one in the Marketplace for free. You have to have the YouTube app installed to use it, but it allows for searching, etc. from within the App.
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Will we ever be able to watch high quality youtube vids over 3g. Now you have to be on wifi. I know on iphone the vids are HQ over 3g.
1) Something that bypasses Exchange-enforced password entry. Android has it; and frankly, PIN enforcement is a meaningless layer of security that does nothing more than inconvenience the end-user.
2) Something that let's you copy synced Calendar entries and Contacts to the Phone instead of forcing them to exist in the stupid cloud. <--I would pay good money for this. Again, something that Android let's you do that I like.
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3) An app that keeps the phone on and unlocked. I don't like this forced lock/timeout thing, I'd prefer to have complete control of when it is locked and when it isn't.
1) A Remote Desktop Application compatable with MS's current RDP services
2) Something that periodically rotates the Logon Screen Picture
3) Something that would quickly display Battery Life, Used/Remaining Storage, etc...
- MEK
- No WiFi Tether
- No USB Tether
Is the first thing I noticed. Seriously? so I switched back to Android.
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- No WiFi Tether
- No USB Tether
Is the first thing I noticed. Seriously? so I switched back to Android.
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Microsoft have said from the beginning that WM7 would not support tethering.
So its no great surprise, well to some it is.
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- No WiFi Tether
- No USB Tether
Is the first thing I noticed. Seriously? so I switched back to Android.
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There are MUCH MORE features that WP7 has missed out
but it's the 1st version of OS, what did you expect?
the 1st version of iOS and Android are even suckier than WP7
I gonna list out some features WP7 missed out...
MMS support other than pictures (Audio/Contacts) (Only 1 MMS at a time)
Contacts Sharing
Custom Fields in Contacts
IE Homepage
Text Reflow (Mail/IE)
WiFi static IP
HomeScreen Wallpaper
Customize Dictionary
Turn Off Auto-Rotate
Mail ability to add attachments other than Pictures
Voice Recorder
Chinese/Unicode Input
Local Search (The Local in Bing Search means places around you, not in-phone)
SkyDrive support
Flash
Pictures Editing
Audio Trimming
Grid View for Apps (HTC Android can toggle Grid/List)
Backup? (For apps data I mean, games data will be saved in xbox live)
External Storage
Touch Focus for Camera (Auto focus while video is already impressive, but I need some manual focus)
Silent mode/Voicemail mode (I don't always want vibrate, I want to COMPLETELY IGNORE sometimes)
Integration of Facebook User's Birthday to Calander
Battery Percentage/Usage Statistics
And Most IMPORTANT... Homebrew apps!! (.xap files w/o DRM can be installed w/o a developer's account)
That's all for now... or maybe that's all I need for a ultimate phone for now...
I think I have played around WP7 enough for now... It's not enough for everyday use YET.... going back to Android and wait for a few WP7 updates before returning
It's going to drive all the corporate users away too... I spend 3 1/2 hours trying to get an intermediate certificate installed so that it can sync with my Exchange server. The cert needs to be in the Root store but WP7 puts it in the Intermediate store. I have no control over the stores themselves. I don't want or need to pay for a Root cert from Verisign or whatever - I only use the cert for encryption. Without it being in the Root store synchronization errors out with a certificate error. I can't "go through the cloud" because my business is regulated in a way that would preclude that.
Android simply ignores the fact that it isn't a "valid" Root cert and simply uses it for encryption and WM 6.5 etc. accepts the cert "as is". Since I'm replacing a user's broken HD2 and it will have to last 18 months I'm going with an Android. I'd stick with the HD2 but they are going to start becoming scarce and the user is our COO who is "technology aware" so I'm going in a direction that I believe she will be happiest with.
Sorry MS but you really screwed the pooch with WP7...
- skype
- batery info
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I gonna list out some features WP7 missed out...
MMS support other than pictures (Audio/Contacts) (Only 1 MMS at a time)
Contacts Sharing
Custom Fields in Contacts
IE Homepage
Text Reflow (Mail/IE)
WiFi static IP
HomeScreen Wallpaper
Customize Dictionary
Turn Off Auto-Rotate
Mail ability to add attachments other than Pictures
Voice Recorder
Chinese/Unicode Input
Local Search (The Local in Bing Search means places around you, not in-phone)
SkyDrive support
Flash
Pictures Editing
Audio Trimming
Grid View for Apps (HTC Android can toggle Grid/List)
Backup? (For apps data I mean, games data will be saved in xbox live)
External Storage
Touch Focus for Camera (Auto focus while video is already impressive, but I need some manual focus)
Silent mode/Voicemail mode (I don't always want vibrate, I want to COMPLETELY IGNORE sometimes)
Integration of Facebook User's Birthday to Calander
Battery Percentage/Usage Statistics
And Most IMPORTANT... Homebrew apps!! (.xap files w/o DRM can be installed w/o a developer's account)
That's all for now... or maybe that's all I need for a ultimate phone for now...
I think I have played around WP7 enough for now... It's not enough for everyday use YET.... going back to Android and wait for a few WP7 updates before returning
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I'd have to agree totally, after having it on for 24 hours and messing around with it I'm finding it extremely basic as to what it offers. It looks good don't get me wrong, but I'm going joining you in going back to Android until there's a few updates applied
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It's going to drive all the corporate users away too... I spend 3 1/2 hours trying to get an intermediate certificate installed so that it can sync with my Exchange server. The cert needs to be in the Root store but WP7 puts it in the Intermediate store. I have no control over the stores themselves. I don't want or need to pay for a Root cert from Verisign or whatever - I only use the cert for encryption. Without it being in the Root store synchronization errors out with a certificate error. I can't "go through the cloud" because my business is regulated in a way that would preclude that.
Android simply ignores the fact that it isn't a "valid" Root cert and simply uses it for encryption and WM 6.5 etc. accepts the cert "as is". Since I'm replacing a user's broken HD2 and it will have to last 18 months I'm going with an Android. I'd stick with the HD2 but they are going to start becoming scarce and the user is our COO who is "technology aware" so I'm going in a direction that I believe she will be happiest with.
Sorry MS but you really screwed the pooch with WP7...
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Well tbh WP7 isnt really supposed to be a business phone, If you want it for business go for the legacy OS as that was designed specifically for business needs.
Camera flash led
Did you realise that only one led is really working or it is only with me? If not, is there any solution??
Hi guys,
Google market version is the most up-to-date.
Soon to remove the BETA tag out of it.
New Link as of 13th of October!!
Ok, file handling should be spot on now.
I've tried several different ways of sending from good sources and bad sources and I reckon I cover all the bases.
To organise some stuff I've removed the internationalisation, sorry, for now is english only, soon I'll put back the other languages.
If I managed to put the tutorial on it on the next few hours I'll update it as V0.4 on the google play, but I'm not sure it's going to happen, maybe tomorrow.
so the plan now is:
- tutorial
- tips n tricks
- logging for missing intents (maybe)
- future feature? NFC? bump? who knows.
have fun!
New Link as of 08th of October!!
Hi again guys,
I found out what was wrong on the file on the 7th, it was not the transmission or connection or even anything WiFi related. It's just that the files can come from several different sources I'm not properly dealing with them.
So here's the deal, this new build, I just blocked the files the app is not handling properly (most likely from 3rd parties galleries, and should work as expected on local files from the stock gallery). Files that are currently not handling properly should just close the app and pop-up a quick message saying "Can't handle this 'Share' at the moment, we're working on it!".
so let's recap:
- local media files from the gallery should work
- connection process is still and will always be hardware/manufacturer dependent and it might or not work.
- transmission (once passes connection) should work rock solid. Including canceling transmission midway through and also once completed tapping on the notification to open the media.
What I'll work on next:
- proper handling of every possible file/intent
- include a tutorial that will appear the 1st time the app is opened.
- a tips & tricks section with what I learned until now on what's best to get it connected.
and after that we should be in a V1.0... does it sound ok?
have fun!
New Link as of 07th of October!!
In this one I completely redid the transmission process and it's ROCK SOLID !!!!
The version on the market if you try really big videos they'll eventually fail, with this new protocol I've transferred HUGE 1.7giga video file without any problem.
Furthermore there's TONs of optimisations on the transfer speed that you won't see on this version, but it's already on the file and it will be unlocked by the future paid version that give around 2 to 3 times after transfer times.
Before put this version into the market I'll include a tutorial and link to the youtube video, but you guys can already test it.
PS.: also there's not much internationalization on this one, there some parts that language will be lacking, I'm aware of it don't need to come tell me.
Have fun!
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I've doing an open beta testing of the first and only (until now) WiFi Direct sharing app available in the Google Play.
here is the link for it:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.budius.WiFiShoot
I just finished refactor most of the code and should be smooth stable now.
So I'm creating this thread to invite anyone that have a FORCE CLOSE to get a Logcat and post it here for me
Please also state if it was the Sender or Receiver, the phone manufacturer/model and which ROM you're running.
Please do not post if you try to connect but the other device fail to reply, or if you device reboots when you try to switch the WiFi Direct on.
Those problems are 100% unrelated to the App itself and it's direct related to the hardware and OS on it.
Developers info:
The WiFi Direct API is 100% with callbacks. So the app just requests a connection and wait for a callback. And sometimes the callback is "failed to connect".... why this happens? is up to the OS.. the OS is responsible to all the transactions and there's no API available for any app to interfere with the process.
Hi, Nice app! It didn't force close on me at all and the UI design has a good look and feel. I just tried it with my Nexus 7 and Galaxy Nexus (both stock 4.1.1) and it worked. However, when launching the app to receive you might want to add a help menu or something to tell you what to do on the other device otherwise people might think to share something you need to launch the app on both devices and then share from there (this is what I did at first because I didn't watch your video!)
Is there any way you can launch the app automatically on the receiving device when the other device tries to send something? Also tapping "Shoot" to receive something is slightly odd. "Receive" or "Receive Shoot" might be better.
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However, when launching the app to receive you might want to add a help menu or something to tell you what to do on the other device otherwise people might think to share something you need to launch the app on both devices and then share from there (this is what I did at first because I didn't watch your video!)
Is there any way you can launch the app automatically on the receiving device when the other device tries to send something? Also tapping "Shoot" to receive something is slightly odd. "Receive" or "Receive Shoot" might be better.
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Yeah, the help will definitely be necessary but at the moment I'm focusing on nailing the actual software functionality. Non nexus devices not always works so nicely.
When I started developing I though about the same (auto launching) but it can't be done, unfortunately, I wanted something liked the show on last year Google io for he ask. But no, I couldn't do it without taking over ALL WiFi direct transactions on the device, which I reckon it would be bad a behavior. Maybe in the future I'll thin about it as an option for the paid version.
About the shoot.... hmmmm..... it kinda feels better to have the confirmation on the receiver, but for sure feels like the text could be different, but then the "cool factor" of it is to have that single big button with a very simple and almost graphical SHOOT, that won't even be translated to other languages.
Something to think about it.
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nice app
waiting it support any file type
thanks
@Dev
Great work, any plans to expand the functionality and maybe expand to share a wireless shared connection from your laptop using direct wifi?
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Nice initiative, I am on evo 4g lte. I tried it with my laptop sony viao, installed to latest atheros utility which haves wifi direct interface.
wifi shoot found it, invited it, get connected.
I just tried to send a songs or 3gp file thru root explorer. without enabling wifi direct from setting.
In send option it shows wifi shoot. I clicked on wifi shoot.
wifi shoot connect to my laptop wifi direct. then nothing no transfer.
Great work. Very high potential. once again great initiative. Thanks.
I'm sorry but you misunderstood the function of the app.
Is a direct transfer from android device to Android device, and both devices must have the app installed. It has never been meant to be used with a laptop.
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Works great! I sent a small video from my S3 to my N7 successfully. Thanks a bunch, will try a big file later.
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I'm sorry but you misunderstood the function of the app.
Is a direct transfer from android device to Android device, and both devices must have the app installed. It has never been meant to be used with a laptop.
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ohh got it. both device same apps. Thanks. will test it. Sorry
My Nexus 7 and S3 don't play wel together.
What does work is using the S3 as a hotspot and then run Samba on the Galaxy S3 (Root required)
Samba takes a while to activate.. but after it does you can browse your phone using the Nexus 7 and copy stuff... no limitations on specific file extansions either.
It work great... for a picture. But I want to transfert any file I want and Wifi Shoot! doesn't appear in "Send"/"Share" menu in ES file explorer or X-Port... What can I do ?
NFC pairing would be a great addition to this app! Maybe include it in a pro version of the app and charge a small fee? I'd definitely pay for it!
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I sent a small video from my S3 to my N7 successfully.
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My Nexus 7 and S3 don't play wel together.
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It's not the first time I hear ppl saying that S3 and N7 doesn't play nice together, but on the other side, there're reports that they do work nice.
Can you both tell me which versions of the S3 you have? Some US variant or the international?
thanks.
Work great beetwin mu gnex and n7
Nice work bedalus, now we only need The ability to share every file, not only media from gallery
dropped by a jellybeans cup...
Just downloaded to both my N7 and my GNex.
I really need something like this for files. As of right now, I'm using WiFi Explorer. It works but this would be faster.
The version from the Google play store (v0.3.5) worked fine both ways with my Galaxy Nexus with JB and my bro's Galaxy Nexus with JB. We both had to looking at the program during pairing to get the notifications though.
I was able to transfer a 323 mb .mkv video file in 2:30 mins. Pretty good considering transferring the file originally to my phone took about 15 mins over wifi via a PC router.
By the way, is there any reason in particular you made it so you can only transfer pics and video files? The program would be much more useful if you could transfer any file type.
Can i use it between galaxy S and SIII?
Please, add all kind of file type. Not only image and videos, also others type (.pdf, .zip, .dat…).
Wifi shoot installed on i9100 and i9000, both devices on Rom ICS AOKP milestone 6. The process work fine only if I follow exactly the same steps on the demo video :
Receiver:
1- Open wifi shoot and wait
Sender:
2- Open the apps where the file to send is
3- Share via wifi shoot
4- wifi shoot apparears and select client to invite
Receiver:
5- Accept the invite
6- Click on big button shoot
Sending + receiving…
So, if we follow the guide of use, wifi shoot work fine. But please, add support for all kind of file type. Not only image and videos, also others type (.zip, .pdf…).
Please, continue to develop this great app, I hope one day you will be able to win money with it.
Wifi shoot are not still unique for wifi direct. There is also this apps, but not working at all for my devices.
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The process work fine only if I follow exactly the same steps on the demo video
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Hi,
thanks for the reply and tests. Could you further explain, how else were you expecting it to work? DId you try some other way?
I'm currently working on a better protocol to make the transfers more reliable, after that is fine tuned I'll enable every file type, multiple files and photos that are synchronised from picasa.
wifi shoot! is a great idea ... but would be better to have some kind of server on the phone that allow to share any file to another phone or tablet. Something like an ftp server or upnp/dlna server. This way we wont have to send the files frome the phone, we will just need to request it from the other device.
I don't know how wifi direct works ... but if it works using TCP/IP the only thing we need is to know de wifi direct IP address of the phone to connect to any available ftp/smb/upnp server phone from the other phone/tablet connected via wifi direct ...
the problem is: the available servers will be bound to the external IP only or will accept requests from the wifi direct interface? maybe this willraise the need of a special server and client prepared to work via wifi direct ..
PS: sorry about my poor english
Hello everyone,
I heard that you can't download all kinds of files on a WP8 , thus rendering you limited to a certain number of formats. (and as far as I understood there are issues with e-mail downloads and opening some files?...)
Which formats are we limited to? Is Microsoft willing to address this issue? Is it a deal-breaker or can you still use the phone? Are there any issues with download such as the ability to only view the files and not actually download them?
Many thanks,
Alex.
i would think its possible after reading this http://wmpoweruser.com/windows-phone-8-has-new-api-for-loading-music-from-apps-into-the-music-hub/
as far as downloading music files but i havent seen anyone develop anything to test it out and showcase this ability
Dunno, maybe Nokia Xpress browser can do something? ..
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Hello everyone,
I heard that you can't download all kinds of files on a WP8 , thus rendering you limited to a certain number of formats. (and as far as I understood there are issues with e-mail downloads and opening some files?...)
Which formats are we limited to? Is Microsoft willing to address this issue? Is it a deal-breaker or can you still use the phone? Are there any issues with download such as the ability to only view the files and not actually download them?
Many thanks,
Alex.
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You are correct. In both email and browser, you can not download any type of file and save it somewhere. You can open a few types only, and even then, the phone will save them automatically I believe (pdf,doc,mp3).
I wish I knew what MS was thinking on this and what they are willing to do in the future. But of course, they dont say anything as far as their plans. I would love the ability to save any type of file to a folder I chose, no matter if I can open it with the phone or not. Only MS knows their thoughts on this. I wish there was someone I could contact to find out what their feelings are on it and if they are even entertaining the idea of this for the future. they are too tight lipped about future updates.
i'm using wp7.5 and i can download and open zip files.. but can't save it. After you close the zip file it's gone
we really need a file explorer
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i'm using wp7.5 and i can download and open zip files.. but can't save it. After you close the zip file it's gone
we really need a file explorer
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Yep. And sadly, we most likely wont get one. At least not an official one. The only way we could get one with WP7, I think you had to be able to side load apps and be interop unlocked. Not 100 percent sure on the interop part, but it basically wasnt something available to everyone. I hear people say we dont need custom roms and hacks.....sorry, but YES we do. If MS is going to lock down half the OS, then YES we absolutely need hacks and Custom ROMs.
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Yep. And sadly, we most likely wont get one. At least not an official one. The only way we could get one with WP7, I think you had to be able to side load apps and be interop unlocked. Not 100 percent sure on the interop part, but it basically wasnt something available to everyone. I hear people say we dont need custom roms and hacks.....sorry, but YES we do. If MS is going to lock down half the OS, then YES we absolutely need hacks and Custom ROMs.
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i'm confused...
if you can't download files on wp, how would i do this:
navigate to college website, login portal, download
powerpoint
notes,
zips, etc containing course materials ?
students email powerpoint slides and annotate those slides as needed to each other also.
is this not possible to do on the platform, still ?
please, this is a very -direct- process. i would prefer to keep things out of the cloud (ie skydrive, dropbox, whoever) and KEEP it a DIRECT process.
thanks !
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i'm confused...
if you can't download files on wp, how would i do this:
navigate to college website, login portal, download
powerpoint
notes,
zips, etc containing course materials ?
students email powerpoint slides and annotate those slides as needed to each other also.
is this not possible to do on the platform, still ?
please, this is a very -direct- process. i would prefer to keep things out of the cloud (ie skydrive, dropbox, whoever) and KEEP it a DIRECT process.
thanks !
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I should clarify something.
If it is one of the following, I believe the phone will save it automatically once you open it. Powerpoint, PDF, Dox, exel file, text, audio. You click the link to download and the file will open. It will save automatically or you have the option to save it sometimes. Other than those file types, you cant do much with anything else.
I downloaded a ZIP file, and while I could actually open it, I had no option to save it. And when I mean download, the phone downloads it, but does not save it in a location you have access to. So without a File Explorer or MS updating the download and save file feature, we wont have access to any files except the types I listed.
Use UC brower, it can download all stuff , but you will need to upload it to skydrive to access it outside the browser.
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Use UC brower, it can download all stuff , but you will need to upload it to skydrive to access it outside the browser.
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this is not a download solution. the whole point of the thread (so far) is if its possible (and how) to download files to the phone, and then access those files.
the point of downloading a file to a device is to use, edit, and store that file -on- the device.
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Use UC brower, it can download all stuff , but you will need to upload it to skydrive to access it outside the browser.
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I still prefer MS change it by allowing us to have control over saving files to the phone and having access to that folder. When I need to then get those files from my phone to my computer, Skydrive doesnt help when I am working somewhere and there is no WIFI, which happens a lot for me. And no, I will not pay more to have tethering.
You can currently save office documents and also send those via E-Mail, Bluetooth, NFC (well - depends, currently only works with other Windows devices). The one notable exception currently is PDF-files that have been openend directly from the browser (if they were stored on SkyDrive it works).
You can open Zip-Files and contained files but the Zip-Files themselves are not stored.
Aside from the file types reserved for the system (there is a list in MSDN) Apps can register as compatible with those filetypes. E.g. Autodesk could create an AutoCAD-Viewer that registers for the *.DWG Filetype. If you then receive such a file via E-Mail, SkyDrive, Download, etc. and open it the according application will be launched and that application will have to take care of the file (display, storage, etc.)
If you don't have an App on the phone that can handle the filetype you can launch a search on the Store for Apps that support the filetype. Should you have multiple Apps installed that support the filetype you will be provided with a prompt that asks you what you want to do.
As far as I know that is pretty much the same way iOS handles those situations but I might be mistaken there.