The X8 is a good phone, but have a problem...
The RAM!!!!
the ram is very little!!
I think that only solution at this problem is SWAP!
I've a question.
Swap is possible on X8?
The Kernel is compatible?
If now the answer is NO, in future with Bootloader Unlock
can be possible??
Thank you for the answer and sorry for my english
I think any android phone is swap capable, however our kernel doesn't support it. And yes, if our beloved devs bypass the bootloader and someone will make swap capable kernel, it will work .
There is actually thread on this topic, it's called something like "How to add more RAM to our tiny devices".
Anyway, swapping doesn't give you more RAM, besides, android has it's own way to deal with RAM. For more, check the mentioned thread.
fanox said:
I think any android phone is swap capable, however our kernel doesn't support it. And yes, if our beloved devs will bypass the bootloader and someone will make swap capable kernel, it will work .
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Thank you...i'll wait for bootloader unlock
There is actually thread on this topic, it's called something like "How to add more RAM to our tiny devices".
Anyway, swapping doesn't give you more RAM, besides, android has it's own way to deal with RAM. For more, check the mentioned thread.
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The thread is useless
i'll wait for bootloader-unlock
Related
While glancing around at Milestone forums, I saw this: http://code.google.com/p/milestone-overclock/
On the front page it says: (bold is really all you need to read )
Other phones
In theory this technique is perfectly feasible in any Android phone, and will surely work in phones based on Texas Instruments OMAP3. You may say it's unneeded if you can use custom firmwares with overclocking enabled; but you must flash a specific kernel to get a particular speed. It would be much better to be able to set any maximum frequency/voltage on the fly without flashing or rebooting. For instance, you could overclock to 1.0 GHz before a browsing or gaming session and then return to a lower frequency like 600 MHz, though still overcloked, for battery savings and safety. It's up to you. And that's what this project enables. You'd have to port the kernel module over to the new kernel; I've written a detailed howto in the Disassembly page explaining this.
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We have a phone with an OMAP3, so it may even work out of the box. Otherwise, it looks like it'd take a knowledgeable person to get it running, but we got plenty of those anyway! <3
Root is required of course, but from articles I've read, it looks like root should come? This could be very cool!
Great find!
E-FUSE
sorry guys but from what i read in the general tab of the forums and from a couple other resources it sounds like it is very unlikely that we will ever see custom kerns. on the droid x because of the hardware e-fuse that is in place on the phone in combination with the boot loader being locked down tighter than a virgin on prom night because if you "trip the fuse" the phone will hardware brick meaning a new piece of hardware will need to be installed by moto in order for the phone to become operational again and we all know flashing custom kerns. void your manf. war. so it seems like moto has made this phone to much of a liability to even dev for SAD DAYS i wanted one so bad so ill wait and see if the fuse gets cracked (xbox 360 I know way different just my light at the end of the tunnel) GL DEVS AND THANKS IN ADVANCED FOR ALL THE WORK YOUR ABOUT TO DO
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sorry guys but from what i read in the general tab of the forums and from a couple other resources it sounds like it is very unlikely that we will ever see custom kerns. on the droid x because of the hardware e-fuse that is in place on the phone in combination with the boot loader being locked down tighter than a virgin on prom night because if you "trip the fuse" the phone will hardware brick meaning a new piece of hardware will need to be installed by moto in order for the phone to become operational again and we all know flashing custom kerns. void your manf. war. so it seems like moto has made this phone to much of a liability to even dev for SAD DAYS i wanted one so bad so ill wait and see if the fuse gets cracked (xbox 360 I know way different just my light at the end of the tunnel) GL DEVS AND THANKS IN ADVANCED FOR ALL THE WORK YOUR ABOUT TO DO
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Uhm... you didn't read the site... we need root and only root for this particular method of overclocking. Not NAND access.
I don't think it should be too difficult to port the Milestone Overclock project to the Droid X (they've done brilliant work, by the way ). At the least, changing the address we provide to the module, and at the most, doing a bit more reverse engineering.
Either way, if a straight port is not possible, adjusting the current method will almost certainly work. The whole point of a LKM is to extend or modify an existing kernel without the need to reflash it. We just need root.
I wish I could convince people to just refuse to buy phones with locked bootloaders. Ideally, everyone would buy Nexus Ones in vast numbers and force manufacturers to make fastboot oem unlock a standard.
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sorry guys but from what i read in the general tab of the forums and from a couple other resources it sounds like it is very unlikely that we will ever see custom kerns. on the droid x because of the hardware e-fuse that is in place on the phone in combination with the boot loader being locked down tighter than a virgin on prom night because if you "trip the fuse" the phone will hardware brick meaning a new piece of hardware will need to be installed by moto in order for the phone to become operational again and we all know flashing custom kerns. void your manf. war. so it seems like moto has made this phone to much of a liability to even dev for SAD DAYS i wanted one so bad so ill wait and see if the fuse gets cracked (xbox 360 I know way different just my light at the end of the tunnel) GL DEVS AND THANKS IN ADVANCED FOR ALL THE WORK YOUR ABOUT TO DO
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Original Moto Droid has the same "eFuse", aka M-Shield. All OMAP's have it:
http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wt...lateId=6123&navigationId=12316&contentId=4629
Now, the locked bootloader is another issue. But that should only affect loading of custom ROM's.
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Uhm... you didn't read the site... we need root and only root for this particular method of overclocking. Not NAND access.
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sure i did it says it changes info in the kern so couldnt that trip the efuse because we dont know if it will look at proc frequency when you boot so if you where to change the values in the stock kern then in theroey there is a good chance that it could trip the fuse im no dev just seems like common sense
I wonder who's going to be the first person to try?
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sure i did it says it changes info in the kern so couldnt that trip the efuse because we dont know if it will look at proc frequency when you boot so if you where to change the values in the stock kern then in theroey there is a good chance that it could trip the fuse im no dev just seems like common sense
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No........
grndnpnd said:
sure i did it says it changes info in the kern so couldnt that trip the efuse because we dont know if it will look at proc frequency when you boot so if you where to change the values in the stock kern then in theroey there is a good chance that it could trip the fuse im no dev just seems like common sense
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No, you're just wrong. I don't know what I'm talking about here, but you said in exact words: "it is very unlikely that we will ever see custom kerns". This is NOT a custom kernel. Secondly, I really doubt the eFuse is live monitoring the variables (I assume that's what it changes?) in the kernel (assuming it does infact change variables w/ in the kernel). Nothing of Motorola's would be overwritten with this (I think). I can't imagine the eFuse really does that much, if anything (which is coming to arise). Maybe someone else can shed some light on this, because like I said, I'm purely guessing.
EDIT: Whoa, SetCPU maker above me??? Hi.
I'm pretty sure you do need a custom kernel to overclock the only reason its possible on the Droid stock kernel is that the kernel on the Droid is rated at 600mhz stock but UNDERCLOCKED to 550 mhz. So we could overclock the stock one since it was already possible, just underclocked
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Not according to the Milestone Google code page...
Nah, I just released my overclock method.
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/dr...-x-successfully-overclocked-6.html#post710279
well i guess i just dont get the concept of an efuse from what i have read it checks the frequency of the proc on boot but w/e has anyone tried this yet does it work i would love to see this phone oc'ed and for the god that made setcpu thank you and my donation better have bought beer lol
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well i guess i just dont get the concept of an efuse from what i have read it checks the frequency of the proc on boot but w/e has anyone tried this yet does it work i would love to see this phone oc'ed and for the god that made setcpu thank you and my donation better have bought beer lol
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Dude. Punctuation. Please.
Im overclocked right now.
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Highjacker jack, what r u OC'd too? Also im not a benchmark head like some, but what if any differences are u seeing as far as quadrant, linpack? Mainly quadrant bc if it is higher is will likely process 3d graphics better, this cud b interesting after a good bit of trial and error bc te D1 can almost triple its clock speed, i know that this isn't entirely plausible and we are dealing with something that we cannot put custom roms on but i was just curious. Thanks
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1.26 Ghz. Around 3-5 more in linpack. Broke 1400 in quadrant.
3D graphics performance is definitely better.
Most people can't even get to 1.2 stably. I must've gotten lucky with my phone.
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Running great at 1150000 and 72. 10+ on linpack, stable. Thank you guys. Excellent. Now, I could give 2 **** about the locked bootloader. OC was all I wanted
Hello I was just wondering if it's even possible to port over MIUI to the D2 as stated in the below thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=994081
I was reading up on it and I thought the Moto D2 had a locked bootloader and something called eFuse would make the D2 unusable if you changed the bootloader software/kernel and MIUI uses a custom kernel, so yeah I was just wondering if this is even possible
Not to be rude, but shouldn't you be posting the above in the exact thread that you referenced?
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Not to be rude, but shouldn't you be posting the above in the exact thread that you referenced?
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Causeeee I can't post in android development cause I'm new to these forums, You need have like 10 posts or something
We don't know whether it's possible to get MIUI working on Droid 2. From what I can tell, no one has actually gotten the ROM to boot. Someone just sort of put together a ROM that might hypothetically boot (since the hardware is relatively similar to the OG Droid, which runs MIUI). However, as the developer doesn't have a D2 (or any similar phone), it's going to be kind of hard to get it working.
I asked about the kernel issues in that thread, but I don't think the person who posted the ROM has any experience with bypassing eFuse (meaning that the ROM won't work unless it can be run on the stock kernel). There is some exploit called 2nd-init that was used to hijack the Milestone, but I haven't heard of anyone getting it to work on the Droid 2.
Overall, seems like a longshot. But maybe someone can pull it off...
You should've read a bit more in the thread
Both me and the developer are working together on the 2nd_init hack lol.
ljbaumer said:
You should've read a bit more in the thread
Both me and the developer are working together on the 2nd_init hack lol.
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Super hyped about this MIUI.
.hopefully all goes well
Count me in with a donation when u guys get it up n working!
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You should've read a bit more in the thread
Both me and the developer are working together on the 2nd_init hack lol.
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I read the entire thread. It appears that all you have accomplished through this effort is bricking your phone.
With Fission, Angdroid didn't report anything until he had a proof of concept working (a ROM that booted).
From what I can tell, these guys don't really seem to know much about how to get this to work. Hopefully they will figure it out, but it's definitely going to take a working D2 and some significant knowledge about ROM development on the D2 (which neither of these guys appear to have). I would recommend staying away from it until they at least can report that it's booting on the D2...
Hello,
I am pondering the possibility to buy the Samsung Galaxy S II and have heard quite a few rumors that this phone will have a locked and encrypted boot loader making it impossible to use alternative ROMs.
I am sure hackers will take very little time in fixing this but am still wondering. Has anyone seen tangible claims of encrypted/lock boot compared to the I9000 (which I own atm).
Thanks!
Expansys has a 32 gb model listed as coming april 11th but pricing is not yet announced
galaxinho said:
Expansys has a 32 gb model listed as coming april 11th but pricing is not yet announced
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Yes, no definite date. Doesn't answer my question though
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Yes, no definite date. Doesn't answer my question though
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Samsung's own website mentions encryption, but doesn't give enough detail for us to know if it'll be custom ROM friendly yet. I'm sure it'll take very little time once the phone is released to let you know, just hold tight until then!
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Samsung's own website mentions encryption, but doesn't give enough detail for us to know if it'll be custom ROM friendly yet. I'm sure it'll take very little time once the phone is released to let you know, just hold tight until then!
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Link please?
I suppose you are referring to the data encryption that Samsung mentioned in its splash page? I really doubt they would post information about a Locked Bootloader on their website as it really wouldn't do them any good publicity wise.
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Link please?
I suppose you are referring to the data encryption that Samsung mentioned in its splash page? I really doubt they would post information about a Locked Bootloader on their website as it really wouldn't do them any good publicity wise.
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Yeah, I said encryption. Of course we have no idea about the bootloader until it's released or someone techy gets their hands on one! That's why I said we have to wait. Sorry if my post was ambiguous.
SamFirmware just tweeted, Samsung are using same ODIN for Galaxy S II, just with new .PIT file. So it will be flashable.
Broomfundel said:
SamFirmware just tweeted, Samsung are using same ODIN for Galaxy S II, just with new .PIT file. So it will be flashable.
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Yes saw that but it doesn't mean it is flashable just like that until you see it working. Good start anyway.
FRLinux said:
Hello,
I am pondering the possibility to buy the Samsung Galaxy S II and have heard quite a few rumors that this phone will have a locked and encrypted boot loader making it impossible to use alternative ROMs.
I am sure hackers will take very little time in fixing this but am still wondering. Has anyone seen tangible claims of encrypted/lock boot compared to the I9000 (which I own atm).
Thanks!
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There's already a running topic on this question found here.
Beards said:
There's already a running topic on this question found here.
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Thanks spotted it afterwards.
FRLinux said:
Thanks spotted it afterwards.
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No problem... Your not the only one who has started a topic and found later it's already running.
That link I passed you is actually a second topic on another which was started a day earlier here.
That means we now have three topics covering the same (although each will fragment as further posts are made).
Everyone has their needs/requirements for a phone but for me-personally to fulfill my individual desires and needs it would need to be unlocked 100%. Otherwise I will jsut have to keep my captivate
As I do not approve of manufacturers locking hardware that I paid for with my hard earned money and now own.
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Everyone has their needs/requirements for a phone but for me-personally to fulfill my individual desires and needs it would need to be unlocked 100%. Otherwise I will jsut have to keep my captivate
As I do not approve of manufacturers locking hardware that I paid for with my hard earned money and now own.
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Seem the norm these days on android handsets but keep in mind that the mobile market has always liked a locked an tight device.
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SE was from the very few to lock the bootloader with X10 and now they decided to unlock the simfree Arc, HTC locked their Incredible S in another hand
I don't think sammy will lock the bootloader,just a little security for the formalities that can be easily decoded by happy devs
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SE was from the very few to lock the bootloader with X10 and now they decided to unlock the simfree Arc, HTC locked their Incredible S in another hand
I don't think sammy will lock the bootloader,just a little security for the formalities that can be easily decoded by happy devs
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Yes over time there is always a way. But that said, new devices tend to have better boot loader locking.
Has there been any update on whether the S2 have a locked bootloader?
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Has there been any update on whether the S2 have a locked bootloader?
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Search this very forum. Several threads opened about this but only speculations until someone has one and messes with it.
Locked bootloader...
So I see the chat regarding the locked bootloader on the sg2...I also see people on the forum actually have the device...could they some how check and see if it is locked?
I have been going round in circles looking for a new phone...finally decided on the sam sg2 to find out they are going down the same route as moto!
So, to all the happy owners of a shiney new sg2...whats the dealo!?!?!?
owners of the sgs2 in this forum? you must be mistaken lol...
sam locking the bootloader? who told you that nonsense?
they wouldnt dare to lock the bootloader. its 1 of many reason why sgs 1 succeeded as it did.
if they want sgs2 to be a successful device as well they wont lock the bootloader. it makes sense that the bootloader will be UNlocked.. but then again you can never tell... we might be like if we will find out its locked. followed by and then after we will unlock it. leading to
Hey everyone!
So I have searched high and low for an answer to this problem. I hope I am posting in the correct place. I just got a VitalASC ST1011 tablet and I am looking for a way to put a custom ROM on it. I was able to root it and it did root correctly, but there is absolutely nothing on this exact tablet for ROMs. My question is, are most RK 3188 tablets in the same category? Like will my tablet work with most 3188 ROMs?
Thanks guys!
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Hey everyone!
So I have searched high and low for an answer to this problem. I hope I am posting in the correct place. I just got a VitalASC ST1011 tablet and I am looking for a way to put a custom ROM on it. I was able to root it and it did root correctly, but there is absolutely nothing on this exact tablet for ROMs. My question is, are most RK 3188 tablets in the same category? Like will my tablet work with most 3188 ROMs?
Thanks guys!
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The answer is NO, since the hardware is different like bluetooth/wifi/bootloader/file structure etc... for example a 3188 with ap6120 wifi chip is not the same as 3188 with MTK wifi chip.
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The answer is NO, since the hardware is different like bluetooth/wifi/bootloader/file structure etc... for example a 3188 with ap6120 wifi chip is not the same as 3188 with MTK wifi chip.
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I had thought so. The thing is I am used to rooting and messing with big brand devices like my S3 and such. Is there any way for me to find out what ROMs will work on my device?
toonwar said:
I had thought so. The thing is I am used to rooting and messing with big brand devices like my S3 and such. Is there any way for me to find out what ROMs will work on my device?
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I'm sorry but there are none custom rom support for this device or very very limited. Just a suggestion for future reference, if you like custom rom and such, you should investigate for rom support first before purchase the device. Maybe someone out there who would know some forum that can support this, please chime in. In the mean time you just have to wait and see....
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I'm sorry but there are none custom rom support for this device or very very limited. Just a suggestion for future reference, if you like custom rom and such, you should investigate for rom support first before purchase the device. Maybe someone out there who would know some forum that can support this, please chime in. In the mean time you just have to wait and see....
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Sadly I had no choice. It was a surprise birthday gift from my parents. It's all good though! It's not a bad tablet, I just like custom ROMs. I appreciate the help though!
Nice of you to be nice to him. Maybe there is a humble pie in his fridge..lol
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How were you able to root it? i have the same tablet and have been trying to root it but do not want to lock it up..... I put a bigger class 10 32gb sd card and am trying to run everything of that instead of nad flash....
toonwar said:
Hey everyone!
So I have searched high and low for an answer to this problem. I hope I am posting in the correct place. I just got a VitalASC ST1011 tablet and I am looking for a way to put a custom ROM on it. I was able to root it and it did root correctly, but there is absolutely nothing on this exact tablet for ROMs. My question is, are most RK 3188 tablets in the same category? Like will my tablet work with most 3188 ROMs?
Thanks guys!
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Any ex "hybrid rom concept edition" (Xperia Z Ultra uses) interested in development?
Is anyone interested?
What's more important for you guys, security or speed?
If there fans of my work and this amazing device let me know.
I am doing cyber security now, so if you want something really amazing I need a motivation to spend my free time doing that. And I will need to get myself a second device with locked bootloader for starters.
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Is anyone interested?
What's more important for you guys, security or speed?
If there fans of my work and this amazing device let me know.
I am doing cyber security now, so if you want something really amazing I need a motivation to spend my free time doing that. And I will need to get myself a second device with locked bootloader for starters.
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Any new rom's a good one mate
Why do you need a device with a locked bootloader?
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Is anyone interested?
What's more important for you guys, security or speed?
If there fans of my work and this amazing device let me know.
I am doing cyber security now, so if you want something really amazing I need a motivation to spend my free time doing that. And I will need to get myself a second device with locked bootloader for starters.
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I don't know ur work , but im really interested to see what r u able to do with this phone , I will be here to test anything , and from my pov I think speed is better
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Any new rom's a good one mate
Why do you need a device with a locked bootloader?
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Few reasons, one is that I need to see what can be done with locked one. I managed to port Z3's concept rom to Zu, made it 400mb and it was able to run with Locked Bootloader.
Second reason, is that I can't really afford to brick it right now. I think of switching to black from chrome for a while
I need some crazy idea to motivate myself.
I was able to live with GAAps-free phone for a year, but Nanodroid didn't support new Maps v2 api.
Plus removing Google really improves battery life.
Personally, I am all crazy about Cyber Security and I got pissed when phone lags. Also I believe that most of "innovations" are softeare, that are easy to port.
I posted Google free rom with clear instructions how to install Nanodroid but it's not intersting.
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Is anyone interested?
What's more important for you guys, security or speed?
If there fans of my work and this amazing device let me know.
I am doing cyber security now, so if you want something really amazing I need a motivation to spend my free time doing that. And I will need to get myself a second device with locked bootloader for starters.
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I'm definitely interested .
speed is the better
wow cant wait im still using your Hybrid rom concept edition v2 i love it plus im also on locked boot loader
any news for your project ?
Any update my z ultra is hungry for a new rom
@Doom Slayer, about what can be done with still locked bootloader - you may check following post:
Android PIE VerifiedBoot Bypass: sony xperia XZ1c locked bootloader permanently rooted
I like your [GUIDE] Z Ultra and Z1 HARD BRICK RECOVERY thread.
Do you think it could be made working with XZp/XZ1/XZ1c phones too?
Hardbrick recovery would be very useful for yoshino phones (managed to brick two already).
@j4nn, that's looks promising. Great work! Too bad I don't have any locked device. But I will keep that information in mind.
About hardbrick recovery, you should try contacting @the_laser, as he was the guy who developed software in the first place.
About the rom development, I am still thinking of a concept itself.
Most likely it would be ultra-debloated
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About hardbrick recovery, you should try contacting @the_laser, as he was the guy who developed software in the first place.
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Unfortunately it seems he is not active on xda anymore, for more than a year - mentioning him has no effect, his account is displayed as "disabled". I did not try a pm though.
Do you by any chance know what might have happen with him? Or any good way for contact?
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Unfortunately it seems he is not active on xda anymore, for more than a year - mentioning him has no effect, his account is displayed as "disabled". I did not try a pm though.
Do you by any chance know what might have happen with him? Or any good way for contact?
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I will pm you.