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Hi there,
A couple of questions from a HD owner about the Leo.
Can anyone comment on the video performance on the phone if you drop a non converted avi file/movie. HD used to stutter and get out of synch... Can you use VLC or CorePlayer with any file? Is it smooth?
Also anyone notice lag in the interface?
Love the phone, but I want it to run ABSOLUTELY smoothly... While the HD is fantastic, it's still get frustrating to use at time.
Lots of people have already commented on it. There are threads for those questions, give them a read.
What a waste of a response... It feels like the assumption on this forum is that everyone has time to go and read EVERYTHING and/or that search engines are so developed, brain usage should become irrelevant...
Pathetic...
Depends on the size and bitrate of the avi file, as well as the background programs running. I tried running a 848x480 882kbps(video) avi file and sometimes it stutters every minute or so, sometimes it just runs smoothly. Let's just say that... it's perfectly watchable. Not any moments where I can see the video being tremendously out of sync with the audio. Also tried a 704x400 826kbps(video) XviD file as well... and that runs fine.
I was using CorePlayer.
I don't have any HD avi files, but trying to play HD mkv files fail. (just manages to play 400px-height mkv files)
Using Coreplayer, video's have screen tearing when using directdraw but the performance of playback is good.
What I did was switch to GDI, no more screen tearing but the benchmark score is lower than directdraw. Also changed the smooth zoom to always be on and not only at 50%. This help reduce pixellation.
A standard tv episode avi file (624x352, 350MB) that can be found on various sites runs perfectly fine.
I think the developers at Coreplayer need to add some sort of hardware acceleration for the HD2. Maybe QTV or something along those lines...
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What a waste of a response... It feels like the assumption on this forum is that everyone has time to go and read EVERYTHING and/or that search engines are so developed, brain usage should become irrelevant...
Pathetic...
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How hard is it to look down the list of posts on the first page even? The thread is there. Perhaps you really do have a problem with brain usage.
Just a quick question... when you guys say "Coreplayer" you mean windows Media Player, yes? Or is there another player in there I haven't found.....
Armes said:
Just a quick question... when you guys say "Coreplayer" you mean windows Media Player, yes? Or is there another player in there I haven't found.....
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How hard is it to look down the list of posts on the first page even? The thread is there. Perhaps you really do have a problem with brain usage.
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Have to say I am in total agreement with you.
Having so many new, new and even more new topics all based on the same subject may be easy for the poster creating a new topic but it's hell when you have to reply to one that may contradict another topic.
Much easier to have them all together under one umbrella of a topic.
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Ta very much!!!
cortk said:
Depends on the size and bitrate of the avi file, as well as the background programs running. I tried running a 848x480 882kbps(video) avi file and sometimes it stutters every minute or so, sometimes it just runs smoothly. Let's just say that... it's perfectly watchable. Not any moments where I can see the video being tremendously out of sync with the audio. Also tried a 704x400 826kbps(video) XviD file as well... and that runs fine.
I was using CorePlayer.
I don't have any HD avi files, but trying to play HD mkv files fail. (just manages to play 400px-height mkv files)
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just wanted to know how you where able to play xvid file? I got some strange green lines on coreplayer and huge lagging on mobile divx player, and it was a standard 700X400 clip.
Here's a nice sample I've made for the HD2.
http://gamesquare.co.uk/leo/toystory3-tlr1_h720p.mp4
Play in the album, this video shows the HD2 screen off quite nicely!
(800x480, 1500kbps x264, 128kbps AAC-LC, 1-pass)
Encoding was done in xvid4psp with custom settings.
Hi all,
So, I'm trying to establish whether it is possible for the community to add DivX support. I see commits like these:
https://www.codeaurora.org/gitweb/q...it;h=69023cf85787ff454ce0549f532f9aecfad2ae29
https://www.codeaurora.org/gitweb/q...it;h=208bf6e29780fd15bfd0f6d6575a26ae78591378
that add at least the start of DivX support. But I haven't been able to get it to build, and even then, it's not clear to me if things like a DSP firmware image or something else (presumably proprietary) is required.
Any insights?
Edit: this was originally posted in the Development section, as it is a development question, but it has been moved to General. There is no question that many people would like Divx and other codec support. This thread was supposed to be specifically about getting Divx support in OpenMax/mm-video working.
+1 10 char
I would love to see this also...
Me tooo
Using a program from the market I was able to watch a 720 MKV on my nexus the picture was fine and sound was fine.
Only issue was video was delayed while sound went full speed, other then this it was awesome looking.
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Using a program from the market I was able to watch a 720 MKV on my nexus the picture was fine and sound was fine.
Only issue was video was delayed while sound went full speed, other then this it was awesome looking.
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What program?
Re: DivX support
i don't know what app the other guy is thinking about, but you can find in the market "yxplayer" (trial) and with it you can play at least videos like avi etc etc kn your N1. i think it wilk be hard to find a full free app for that goal. if you find, post here the name please.
This:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/13/lgs-snapdragon-powered-lu2300-android-handset-gets-official/
LG Snapdragon 2.1 handset touts DivX playback, I wonder if it's a software decoder that can be ported?
I've been looking for a good movie player and found a app called Vital Player..it works great.try it out!! Works better than rock player and qq player to me.
The reviews complain about proper support for mp4, m4v and mkv. What is your experience?
I personally have played 720p mp4 videos on it with no problem.I will try it a bit more when I get home but so far it works great!
It doesn't play sound using my 720p mkv movies.
played sound on my handbrake-encoded 720p .mkv file but no picture...
I got an idea, I'll put my xoom on top of yours and we'll get sound AND video!
You have to slide your finger up or down the right side for sound & sliding your finger on the left side adjusts brightness.It's pretty neat.I love it so far & my movies look far better using this app than the stock player
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Sound is at 100%, its the same problem as with the native player.
have problems playing back sound with MP4 video and switching it to software decoding doesnt help play anything back.
I use total video converter to do all my videos.I don`t know if that has anything to do with it.I`m watching Descent 2 now on it with no problem.Sorry that it doesn't work for you all.I tried. :-(
Ill stick with rockplayer seems to work best for me
i found vplayer to be outstanding. Plays anything. ..however since I got my zoom it has stopped working. Dev said he would work a fix. As a side note the app has a lot of negative reviews due to the fact he started charging for the app. Not fair to humbug any means.
Have you been able to make it work on xoom?
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I got an idea, I'll put my xoom on top of yours and we'll get sound AND video!
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The mating of Xoom tablets is strictly forbidden by Motorola and the laws of nature.
On the bright side, you may end up with an Atrix...
Sent from my Evo using the XDA App
Until we get a Tegra 2 and/or OpenMAX accelerated application everything is going to be half ass. I hope someone who knows how to code has a XOOM. I tried reading a basic book and I got lost. Coding isn't my cup of tea. I keep telling myself someone will cone through for us before I can figure it out myself.
I just don't get it ..Vital Player works perfect on mine..It even has a Setting especially for the Xoom so i dont see why it work for you all..I also see that there are 2 version of Vital player ..1 is called vital player neon..that one didnt work for me.I'll be buying the full version of Vital player because it plays the files rockplayer & qqplayer wouldnt play for me.
Please keep it on topic. Thank you.
I've downloaded and tried all the players on the market and still have the best all around playback with Rockplayer Universal (from the rockplayer website).
I use DVDFab to convert easily and fast, and Act 1 video player on device
Hey guys,
I'm gonna keep it short. My dad has a galaxy s and he's too fond of watching videos. Unfortunately, on every ROM I've tried, video playback isn't smooth at all. One of the reason I guess is the second core and hardware decoding issues whatever, but there should be a solution.. which I am not able to. I feel really bad for him, help me out?
He bought my a Galaxy Nexus and uses the i9000 himself and I really wanna help him out.
Videos play great for me on CM9 Noghtlies with stock kernel
Sent from my GT-I9000 using xda premium
+1 stock kernel also works fine for me.
what video format you tried ?
anyway galaxy s is only single core. cmiiw
hi guys.
hi TigerCourage and thank you. i was wondering about Video Playback and HD recording on ICS!!!
* i am now value pack 2.3.6 JVU and i am afraid to move ICS specially some guys told me to get back 2.3.3 an i don't understand why?
no problem with any sort of video on any ics rom that I have tried so far
thanks guys
**do i need lagfix in ICS ???
i'm om Aokp every video running smooth
btw dont try to play 1080p on the device it's not gonna work with H/W decoding it will lag as hell
thank you
why, you couldn't make "lagfix"
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Hey guys,
I'm gonna keep it short. My dad has a galaxy s and he's too fond of watching videos. Unfortunately, on every ROM I've tried, video playback isn't smooth at all. One of the reason I guess is the second core and hardware decoding issues whatever, but there should be a solution.. which I am not able to. I feel really bad for him, help me out?
He bought my a Galaxy Nexus and uses the i9000 himself and I really wanna help him out.
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MXPlayer works pretty good with the Galaxy S ICS Roms.
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MXPlayer works pretty good with the Galaxy S ICS Roms.
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i use XXJVU is working good with watching videos
samhawk said:
thank you
why, you couldn't make "lagfix"
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there is no lag fix this problem with codec not capable to play 1080p that why its lag
btw what the point of playing 1080p on 480*800 screen
Confused by the OP's question: do videos not play at all? Or are there certain codecs/bitrates that are posing a problem?
To be perfectly clear: the term "lagfix" is essentially a filesystem change from RFS to EXT4 and is only applicable for Samsung ROMs that use RFS. All AOSP-like ROMs like CyanogenMod are using proper file systems (ext4 and yaffs2) to begin with so there is no "lag" to "fix." Consider the lagfix term deprecated
720p videos in wmv format do not support h/w decoding, therefore they are very slow. With mp4 or mkv it's all fine though.
Do give dice player a shot...
Playback of 720p mkv's is fine for me on both Slim ICS 3.6 and the latest CM nightly with MXplayer/BSplayer.
But TV OUT is really bad though. 720p lags so much I only get about 2-3 fps. And lower res videos show a lot of screen tearing on the tv during scenes with a lot of movement.
bufferpl said:
720p videos in wmv format do not support h/w decoding, therefore they are very slow. With mp4 or mkv it's all fine though.
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+1 for this, happens to me too...
I just converted the videos -.- couldnt take it anymore.
I watch a lot of animes, and many animes these days are encoded using 10-bit H.264 (Hi10P).
720p 10-bit is very laggy on my galaxy S3 when using MX player. Can someone test it on galaxy S4 and tell me if it handles ? Also, please use mx player which can be downloaded for free from google play
Also, keep in mind the S4 sold in my country is GT-I9500 which uses samsung exynos processor
Did you try with VLC ?? (I don't know if it runs better with VLC, just asking)
VLC uses the same decoding libs and the performance wouldn't be much better.
10bit can only be decoded in software right now so you simply need more CPU power (and the GS4 might have enough power).
I'm quite curious if 720p 10bit can be decoded myself.
I'm curious about this as well, apparently S4 uses the same GPU as iPhone 5 which plays 10 bit videos flawlessly with no lag at all. Can anyone confirm about this?
Im getting my S4 quadcore in about 2 hours and use mxplayer. Ill be happy to try it if no one has done it by then. Where can I d/l a video to test that is the right format/rate?
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roninep said:
Im getting my S4 quadcore in about 2 hours and use mxplayer. Ill be happy to try it if no one has done it by then. Where can I d/l a video to test that is the right format/rate?
Sent from my rooted/rom'd HTC Evo 4g LTE
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Here you are! Sorry if anime is not your liking . Thanks a bunch.
http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=427698
Almost all 720p mkv files on nyaa.eu are 10-bit, you can try others if you want
I'm successfully watching 10-bit 1080 w/ .FLAC and .ASS subs in .MKV format using QQ Video Player. the video file is 1.6 gb and 23 minutes. it's a COALGIRLS video if you know what that is. the only thing I noticed is that it seems to be slightly out of sync.. it's not notable until right 12 minutes in because of how slight it is =/. the vid works fine in Media Player Classic, so Im hoping an app or fw update will correct this.
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soraxd said:
I'm successfully watching 10-bit 1080 w/ .FLAC and .ASS subs in .MKV format using QQ Video Player. the video file is 1.6 gb and 23 minutes. it's a COALGIRLS video if you know what that is. the only thing I noticed is that it seems to be slightly out of sync.. it's not notable until right 12 minutes in because of how slight it is =/. the vid works fine in Media Player Classic, so Im hoping an app or fw update will correct this.
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good to know that, is it smooth? :laugh:
Can you check whether 720p is still out of sync
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Here you are! Sorry if anime is not your liking . Thanks a bunch.
http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=427698
Almost all 720p mkv files on nyaa.eu are 10-bit, you can try others if you want
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Sorry to have taken so long. I tried to d/l it after I got the phone, but didnt realize it was a torrent. Then I saw it was 341mg and I
only had slow 3g. D/L it when I got home and just watched some of it.
I have never watched anime, so I will simply tell you that it seemed normal to me. Using MX player I had to switch it to software decoder, as the hardware decoder played the audio but there was a black screen. Switched it to software and everything played fine, and the a/v seemed synced. It seemed smooth, I saw no choppiness or halting issues. Screen was clear and bright and crisp. Audio was loud and clear.
I didnt do anything to the phone (stock) and only made the hardware to software change in MX. Otherwise it was straight outta the box.
Hope this helps you.
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Sorry to have taken so long. I tried to d/l it after I got the phone, but didnt realize it was a torrent. Then I saw it was 341mg and I
only had slow 3g. D/L it when I got home and just watched some of it.
I have never watched anime, so I will simply tell you that it seemed normal to me. Using MX player I had to switch it to software decoder, as the hardware decoder played the audio but there was a black screen. Switched it to software and everything played fine, and the a/v seemed synced. It seemed smooth, I saw no choppiness or halting issues. Screen was clear and bright and crisp. Audio was loud and clear.
I didnt do anything to the phone (stock) and only made the hardware to software change in MX. Otherwise it was straight outta the box.
Hope this helps you.
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Thanks a lot for you reply, sounds like a perfect player after all. I definitely have to buy a S4
btw, is MXPlayer better than the stock one ? AFAIK, Samsung and LG appear to be the only ones on the markets that have the best codec support in the stock player! Nexus 4 have serious lag when playing the file above but Optimus G drives it smoothly even though they have the same hardware support (benchmark was lower on Nexus 4 though).
Even Xperia Z has issues when dealing with 10-bit video, and I doubt that HTC One is capable of playing video files well as the codec supported is rather limited (according to GSMArena).
My point is, if galaxy s4 were to have CM10.1, I'm curious whether its ability to decode film still retains by using MXPlayer
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Thanks a lot for you reply, sounds like a perfect player after all. I definitely have to buy a S4
btw, is MXPlayer better than the stock one ? AFAIK, Samsung and LG appear to be the only ones on the markets that have the best codec support in the stock player! Nexus 4 have serious lag when playing the file above but Optimus G drives it smoothly even though they have the same hardware support (benchmark was lower on Nexus 4 though).
Even Xperia Z has issues when dealing with 10-bit video, and I doubt that HTC One is capable of playing video files well as the codec supported is rather limited (according to GSMArena).
My point is, if galaxy s4 were to have CM10.1, I'm curious whether its ability to decode film still retains by using MXPlayer
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I just tried to play it with the stock player and it wouldnt play video only audio. Il try some other players and see wut happens.
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I just tried to play it with the stock player and it wouldnt play video only audio. Il try some other players and see wut happens.
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Please test it with MX player. Don't forget that you need to use S/W instead of H/W to play 10-bit
MX player is not the fastest player to play 10-bit. Archos Video player can play much 10-bit faster.
However, mx player is best player I've tested when it comes to rendering subtitles. The other video players can only display subititles at the bottom, but mx players can display the subtitles that appear in middle or top of the screen that appear in many animes. Thats the reason why I'm asking people to test using mx player.
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Here you are! Sorry if anime is not your liking . Thanks a bunch.
http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=427698
Almost all 720p mkv files on nyaa.eu are 10-bit, you can try others if you want
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You can also download 720p 10-bit animes from this website. The size of the animes is also much smaller, which good for people who don't have fast connection
http://web.hi10anime.com/
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Please test it with MX player. Don't forget that you need to use S/W instead of H/W to play 10-bit
MX player is not the fastest player to play 10-bit. Archos Video player can play much 10-bit faster.
However, mx player is best player I've tested when it comes to rendering subtitles. The other video players can only display subititles at the bottom, but mx players can display the subtitles that appear in middle or top of the screen that appear in many animes. Thats the reason why I'm asking people to test using mx player.
You can also download 720p 10-bit animes from this website. The size of the animes is also much smaller, which good for people who don't have fast connection
http://web.hi10anime.com/
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I did run it with MX Player first. If you go back a couple posts I used that first for silversun92. You are right and it ran very well. I did have to change it to S/W, but after that it worked without any problems. Silversun92 asked me about the stock player, so I tried that next and it didnt work. Sound did but video did not. Can anything correct that?
FWIW, I also ran it with BSPlayer (which I like and use). It seemed to run slightly jittery, but it automatically showed subtitles which MX didnt when I ran it. That might just be a setting issue though. Regardless, I think MX ran better than BS.
Is there anything else that you all need tested ?
anyone know how to get DTS video to work on S4? I have 1080p mkv videos with DTS audio, but it wont work at S4 video player.. there is no sound
@ben3003
DTS only works in H/W+ mode afaik. (Testing with MX Player) on S4 this is a ARMv7 Neon FFMPEG custom distribution example
I find that the experience for 720p 10bit playback is not yet satisfactory. But the device may be capable of more due to its unique hardware support (HEVC). I think we can expect improvements to playback in future.
As @maroon1 mentioned Archos Player is almost satisfactory experience with 720p hi10p playback (I believe this is software rendering) however it lacks the Styled subtitle support that I have grown to love MX Player for. I can get over this lol but would be nice to have in future.
So you guys disagree on the results....
So, @roninep you say that 720p 10-bit mkvs played smoothly with MX Player on your S4, but @sh4z you say it wasn't satisfactory? Would both of you mind posting a short ~5 minute video clip of your results for comparison please?
I'm debating on buying an S4, since I watch a lot of video on my phone. Currently I have to manually re-encode (with handbrake) all my videos and anime from 10-bit to 8-bit before I put them on my phone, so a phone that plays 10-bit and saves me this extra step would be great!
Thank you for confirming!!
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I made two videos to compare MX Player and Archos Player on GT-I9505 S4.
I pretty much agree with @maroon1, I think Archos is the smoothest so far out of the players I've tried. MX Player has better subtitle support so If it's not 10bit I would use that.
Same video is used no special optimizations default settings. Streaming over WiFi G. (Plenty of bandwidth for 720p) @roninep might have a GT-I9500... Haven't tested MX Player on that yet. Will give it a go tomorrow. Maybe its okay with that device.
MX Player
https://vimeo.com/67198798
Archos Player
https://vimeo.com/67198799
Apologies in advance these videos are a bit blurry at some points as they were taken by my Galaxy S GT-I9000. It doesn't know what to focus on lol. Anyway the frame rate I think is visible enough in each example (I think that's what is important right ?)
Some other 720p 10bit mkv Tests (In Reverse Order *worst first*)
1. Mobo Video Player constantly played intrusive ad's and crashed when attempting to playback,dumped that like a **** ...
2. VLC Does not play properly v.choppy got about 3 frames out of it (It's beta after all and may kill your kittens (lol wtf vlc thats the warning you get when running the first time )) audio came through okay.
3. QQ Player was worse than Mobo Player laggy video and out of sync audio, did not properly understand styled subtitles and output incorrectly.
4. VPlayer - Constantly playing catch-up (video; fast,slow,fast,slow)- Subtitles displaying correctly at beginning but then later disappeared
5. MoboPlayer (Audio playback no video on H/W) Software playback was good but artifacting (think twice compressed jpeg, probably just not proper 10bit support) faster than MX but archos is better(faster no artifacts), subs displayed correctly but not styled
Any others people have tried that are good let us know! its useful. Cheers :good:
Thank you @sh4z for posting the videos! And you're right, framerate was what I was wondering about! And coincidentally, I'm currently using an I9000, want to upgrade to the I9500. And yeah, I currently use MX Player for everything, including those animes I convert from 10 to 8 bit.
Before I forget and go on, @sh4z how did you get the fps to show in the topright corner on MX Player? I couldn't find it as a menu option in MX Player...
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So it seems that MX Player framerate is watchable, but when compared to Archos player, Archos is much more enjoyable. Hopefully MX Player's dev will be able to improve his codec! (with MX Player having much better .ass subtitle support)
It's good that you pointed out you tested on the I9505, I had forgotten about the different chipsets. From a few places I read around, I've heard rumours that perhaps the I9500 with its Exynos 5 Cortex A15 will perform much better than the I9505's Qualcomm Krait 300.
Just looking at their comparison on Wikipedia's page for the Krait CPU, it appears (at least on the surface) that the I9500's Exynos 5 should do better? Hope we find out later!
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Hopefully, we will soon get an android device + app combination that rivals the iPhone 5 in terms of playing 10 bit videos.
For reference: From what was said on Animesuki's forum thread "iPhone 5 and 10-bit MKVs" , there's a video that proves that iPhone 5 with "HD MKV Player" app can easily handle 10 bit videos.
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I had tested some of those other players on my I9000 too, and I agree that MoboPlayer probably performs best out of them, in terms of framerate. Like you said, it's too bad that it artifacts on colours and doesn't fully support .ass styling.
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From his signature, I'd caution a guess that @roninep has the North American I9505 like you do, so no Exynos core. If anyone else here has an I9500 would you mind testing this out please? Thanks in advance!
I tested on I9505 S4.
Was watching a 720p 10 bit anime video with MX Player and find it pretty smooth except scenes that has lots of movement, action where the video stutter a little (No problem though).
But do take note the CPU does heats up a little... Mine was at 55 degree C after a full episode.
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I tested on I9505 S4.
Was watching a 720p 10 bit anime video with MX Player and find it pretty smooth except scenes that has lots of movement, action where the video stutter a little (No problem though).
But do take note the CPU does heats up a little... Mine was at 55 degree C after a full episode.
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@psycovirus thanks for testing! Would you say the performance was about the same or better than the video sh4z posted with MX Player on I9505?
And yeah, it's unfortunate but expected that the CPU would heat up since it's all software decoding.... I don't think any consumer hardware will get hardware accelerated h.264 hi10p, especially with the release of h.265 "HEVC".