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Can't watch Avatar on the HD2

Hi Folks-
I know there are several threads on video encoding, but I think I am asking something new. I am using the retail version of Winx DVD Ripper which does a nice job overcoming encryption from my store bought DVDs so I can rip to my computer and then transfer to my HD2. Problem is I have workable mp4 files on my computer that I can watch after the process, but I am having mixed success watching them on the HD2.
Just recently, I ripped a nice mp4 version of Avatar that played fine on my computer, but when I transferred it to the phone, it would show the circle for the video player for half a second and then go back to my file explorer. This also happened with Black Hawk Down. I've had success with other movies such as Iron Man, etc. Am I running into some form of copy protection? If so, I'm annoyed as these are 100% retail DVDs I have purchased.
Specific settings for Winx include 800x480 resolution, sound to at least 160, using high resolution mode, even safe mode the second time I ripped Avatar to see if that would help.
Any ideas would be most appreciated, thanks!

Try the HTC Video Encoder. I've encoded 1080p .mkv files with no playback issues on my HD2. It's free, so can't hurt to give it a shot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112

i view my movies using a divx player with no problems at all.
Mike

Try TCPMP player , install it then open the program and hit file than open and select the movie! let me know if this works.

xeebot said:
Try the HTC Video Encoder. I've encoded 1080p .mkv files with no playback issues on my HD2. It's free, so can't hurt to give it a shot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
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Its just called video encoding GUI (saying htc implies they made it, when they didn't). But yes, I can highly recommend using it.
Also using tcpmp doesn't allow for full hardware acceleration.

ibeQuint said:
Its just called video encoding GUI (saying htc implies they made it, when they didn't). But yes, I can highly recommend using it.
Also using tcpmp doesn't allow for full hardware acceleration.
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Good to know what player do you recommend?

core player and tcmp player work all the time.. Dix player"sometimes work" but has small keys and audio issues but at least you can adjust sound and timeframe in fullscreen.

I will try the other encoding program. I downloaded pocket divx player and I couldn't figure out how to open up a new file and I tried to follow the directions in the program. Is it possible that I am having a hard time with my mp4 files because I transferred them not via Activesync but by the other option that pops up when you first connect your phone to a computer? Will post in a bit when I try the new encoder.
Edit: Tried the new encoder, but all sorts of error messages when I showed them the contents of my Avatar DVD. I have 33 files on the actual DVD, which ones am I trying to encode?

Don't use the video encoding GUI as it is awfully slow and doesn't even give you a great image quality due to the settings being made suitable for a Touch HD.
Just head over to doom9 and download MeGui. A bit harder to use, but at least you'll be able to encode them in under an hour with great IQ.
Just did an encode of my Avatar Blu-Ray(45Gb) that took a little under an hour and ended up with a 3Gb file with a bitrate of 2453Kbps and max at 10Mbps. Split it into two files of 1500Mb and the HD2 played them like a champ without a stutter in sight.
I also recommend you download eac3to(for audio ripping) and yamb(mp4 splitting).

Will try meGUI, guess people are thinking it has to do with the encoding huh? Even if it works ok on my computer but not HD2?

did you try the tcpmp player?

tgerbracht said:
Will try meGUI, guess people are thinking it has to do with the encoding huh? Even if it works ok on my computer but not HD2?
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Yes. Just because it plays on the computer doesn't mean it'll play on the phone. Your computer's hardware is substantially "faster" than the HD2's. Optimizing the video through encoding is usually the answer.

Toss3 said:
Don't use the video encoding GUI as it is awfully slow and doesn't even give you a great image quality due to the settings being made suitable for a Touch HD.
Just head over to doom9 and download MeGui. A bit harder to use, but at least you'll be able to encode them in under an hour with great IQ.
Just did an encode of my Avatar Blu-Ray(45Gb) that took a little under an hour and ended up with a 3Gb file with a bitrate of 2453Kbps and max at 10Mbps. Split it into two files of 1500Mb and the HD2 played them like a champ without a stutter in sight.
I also recommend you download eac3to(for audio ripping) and yamb(mp4 splitting).
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Oof, this program does look confusing. I'm going to go through the help files and try to get a grasp of it all, but if you have some preset settings or a streamlined bit of advice, I'm all for it. So far I'm trying one-click method and I've been able to show it where the .vob files are and create a directory to place the file and working directory. There is a hick-up with something about the chapter titles and it looks like it needs a file but it shows nothing when I explore my DVD drive. The Megui wiki isn't very clear here...though the program looks promising!

try using dvdfab, select iphone/ipod encoding and after transfer your encoded avatar to your sd card.. i did it like that.

juwan de leon said:
try using dvdfab, select iphone/ipod encoding and after transfer your encoded avatar to your sd card.. i did it like that.
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Will try this-along with tcmp and will report back.

xeebot said:
Try the HTC Video Encoder. I've encoded 1080p .mkv files with no playback issues on my HD2. It's free, so can't hurt to give it a shot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
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wow.... cool app! Thanks for the link!!!

juwan de leon said:
try using dvdfab, select iphone/ipod encoding and after transfer your encoded avatar to your sd card.. i did it like that.
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THANKS! The ---only--- DVD encoder that just worked!
Edit:
Tried Handbrake (couldn't reliably read DVD to burn), Winx DVD Ripper (couldnt play on HD2), couldnt figure out meGUI and the other encoder linked here, and I didn't have to use any other player other than the nice HTC one. Thanks again.

tgerbracht said:
Hi Folks-
I know there are several threads on video encoding, but I think I am asking something new. I am using the retail version of Winx DVD Ripper which does a nice job overcoming encryption from my store bought DVDs so I can rip to my computer and then transfer to my HD2. Problem is I have workable mp4 files on my computer that I can watch after the process, but I am having mixed success watching them on the HD2.
Just recently, I ripped a nice mp4 version of Avatar that played fine on my computer, but when I transferred it to the phone, it would show the circle for the video player for half a second and then go back to my file explorer. This also happened with Black Hawk Down. I've had success with other movies such as Iron Man, etc. Am I running into some form of copy protection? If so, I'm annoyed as these are 100% retail DVDs I have purchased.
Specific settings for Winx include 800x480 resolution, sound to at least 160, using high resolution mode, even safe mode the second time I ripped Avatar to see if that would help.
Any ideas would be most appreciated, thanks!
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A lot of standalone players worldwide need a firmware update to make it work because Avatar BD uses a new encryption scheme called BD+ 5. I recommend u a blu ray ripper named PavTube. I think the Pavtube Blu-Ray Ripper Software is currently the best ripping software and surprisingly it can rip both DVDs & Blu-Ray Discs without the need of having a different Undo-Protection program. I have tried many brands of ripping software with poor results. PavTube Blue-Ray Ripper is a real "Swiss Knife". Download a demo version and you will find it is definitly worth buying.Experience Blu Ray Avatar in the center of your Home Theater System

(tmo) Movie Digital copies

ok so we all know we can have digital copies of movies play in our portable devices so i decided to test some movies on my tab. Two movies in question were Star Trek and Sherock Holmes. I went through the entire process of copying the movies to my pc using itunes (one i could have used media player but didnt work), then transfer the movies to my tab. i tries opening using stock video player and nothing and i even downloaded different video players that i though would support the video format and nothing. what gives? how can we watch DIGITAL COPIES of movies on our tab? AND NO I DO NOT FEEL LIKE RIPPING A DVD OR BLUE RAY (DONT HAVE BD PLAYER ON LAPTOP) JUST IN CASE ANYONE DECIDES TO SUGGEST THAT. i just want to be able to view digital copies.........

Can't you remove DRM using some windows xp/vista/7 program?

Just went through this yesterday. It's a DRM issue. If it's like the Toy Story 3 Digital Copy I got with the 4 disc set it's tied to iTunes. Only iTunes or other Apple products will play it. Now, there should be a way to rip the DRM or convert it, I just didn't invest that much time into figuring out how to do so. All I did was rip and re-encode the DVD version.

ekinnee said:
Just went through this yesterday. It's a DRM issue. If it's like the Toy Story 3 Digital Copy I got with the 4 disc set it's tied to iTunes. Only iTunes or other Apple products will play it. Now, there should be a way to rip the DRM or convert it, I just didn't invest that much time into figuring out how to do so. All I did was rip and re-encode the DVD version.
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if ripping and re-encoding DVD is the only way then i have no choice, but it sure is a pain.....
EDIT: what program would you suggest i use to format DVD's to play on the TAB? And what is the best file format to use (MP4, AVI)? want to get the best video/audio quality...

I've used this in the past to remove DRM from iTunes music tracks: http://audials.com/en/tunebite/index.html
It seems it is now able to remove DRM from movies too! So, if you LEGALLY purchased the movie via iTunes you can us this to get it to play on the Tab.

ekinnee said:
I've used this in the past to remove DRM from iTunes music tracks: http://audials.com/en/tunebite/index.html
It seems it is now able to remove DRM from movies too! So, if you LEGALLY purchased the movie via iTunes you can us this to get it to play on the Tab.
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Any other suggestions on converters? i have a huge DVD/BD library and would like to convert to add to TAB to keep me entertained on long trips.....
EDIT: tried to take a look at the link but it does not work..thanks.

adinis78 said:
Any other suggestions on converters? i have a huge DVD/BD library and would like to convert to add to TAB to keep me entertained on long trips.....
EDIT: tried to take a look at the link but it does not work..thanks.
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Copy and paste the link. Not sure what's up with that...
To rip DVDs I always use Handbrake on the "normal" setting. Works perfectly.

ekinnee said:
Copy and paste the link. Not sure what's up with that...
To rip DVDs I always use Handbrake on the "normal" setting. Works perfectly.
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thank you again.

ekinnee said:
I've used this in the past to remove DRM from iTunes music tracks
It seems it is now able to remove DRM from movies too! So, if you LEGALLY purchased the movie via iTunes you can us this to get it to play on the Tab.
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Yeah, have to agree that Audials Tunebite 's pretty good solution.
There's a new version out that can easily remove drm protection from itunes protected movies and videos plus I saw it can also be used to rip dvds and convert dvd movies to whatever format works for pc or whatever devices u need.

Epic, DLNA, and transcoding... settings help.

I currently have a couple of problems...
I have a collection of music that is in WMA Lossless on my Windows Media Center. I am using Winamp to trans-code the music before it is sent wirelessly to my Epic. The music will play on my epic, however I get errors sending it over DLNA, saying that the format is not compatible. I have tried WAV and HE AAC for trans-coding. I am running DK17 and the Quantum Rom.
Also, I cannot seem to get handbrake to convert DVD rips to a playable format on my Epic which also function over DLNA.
Does anyone have any suggestions as to which formats I should be trans-coding to, to get these files working both on my Epic and over DLNA?

Bump... Anyone?

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Bump... Anyone?
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What you play over dlna is decided by codecs on the playing device not by the phone, whatever the destination device is you need to check the codecs for that. Note that there are more to codecs than just the extension name there are settings that may have to be matched.
Since it seems like a good chance you are using a pretty basic device you best bet is basic codecs. Xvid and mp3.
If those dont work then you should probably start saving for something like a ps3 where dlna playing is quick and pretty easy

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Also, I cannot seem to get handbrake to convert DVD rips to a playable format on my Epic which also function over DLNA.
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I used handbrake to rip DVD in mpeg4 format (I believe I used H.264 codec with .m4v extension). DLNA streaming from PC to Epic works using allshare.

K lite Codec pack FTW
What OS are you running on the PC?
I have been using K Lite Codec Pack for years on XP, Win7 and a few Vista machines its my favorite codec pack, cccp codec pack is another good one to check out most people swear by one or the other.
Just as Masterface7 said its a codec thing on the target machine. DLNA (All share) has yet to fail to play any file i have thrown at it when playing to systems that are loaded up with all the codecs and are set up to play the same files local of there own HDD or from LAN.

zman519 said:
What OS are you running on the PC?
I have been using K Lite Codec Pack for years on XP, Win7 and a few Vista machines its my favorite codec pack, cccp codec pack is another good one to check out most people swear by one or the other.
Just as Masterface7 said its a codec thing on the target machine. DLNA (All share) has yet to fail to play any file i have thrown at it when playing to systems that are loaded up with all the codecs and are set up to play the same files local of there own HDD or from LAN.
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I think OP is trying to do the opposite of what you described. He's trying to play PC files onto the phone. In other words, the PC is the source and the phone is the target.
Unfortunately, even if the file can be played natively on Epic, it may not be playable via allshare.

acegolfer said:
I think OP is trying to do the opposite of what you described. He's trying to play PC files onto the phone. In other words, the PC is the source and the phone is the target.
Unfortunately, even if the file can be played natively on Epic, it may not be playable via allshare.
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Mmm ic ya that's kinda sucky then. i have not tried to play many video files "On the Phone" But i would like to no the answer also if some one figures it out but i have a feeling we would need a new DLNA.akp

after searching the forum for my question this one sort of nailed it on the head, I have the same issue
Using allshare from my phone to play video files from my pc using the intel viiv media share I can see the video files but when try and open in my phone to lay the video files it says unspported file format. i record tv through my pc it can play it in windows media center and windows media player but will not play on my phone

does anyone have an answer for this issue?

To make a note, All Share will not play any content that has DRM...

Maybe I missunderstood samsung but it seems to me that allshare only half works if u can't play files both directions. There always seems to be some video file that will not work but the fact that NO video files work makes me think that allshare sucks. Its to bad xbmc can't run on ARM chips
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Playing VOB files on the Acer A500

Is there any application that can play VOB files (DVD) files on the A500?
I know that there are conversion programs, such as Handbrake, but the conversion process takes a long time.
Would it be simpler just to copy VOB files (they have to be unprotected first) on to the SD card or USB stick, and then play it.

banksia said:
Is there any application that can play VOB files (DVD) files on the A500?
I know that there are conversion programs, such as Handbrake, but the conversion process takes a long time.
Would it be simpler just to copy VOB files (they have to be unprotected first) on to the SD card or USB stick, and then play it.
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You can try apps like Rock Player, MoboPlayer, Vital Player(?), and etc. I've never tried playing VOB files and don't remember anyone asking if it'll work. So you can try if you want to, but I'm doubting it'll work without converting it.

Basically, VOB is another form of MPEG-2 PS. So there shouldn't be any problem playing VOB files.
If the VOB files are not recognized, you can try rename them to .MPG.
I don't have VOB now, so I can't test. Give them a try, and please report back.

Success!
Smooth video and good sound quality. Did not need to rename files. Simple copy from PC to A500.
Copied two sets of DVDs, i.e. the VOB Folders (VIDEO_TS) across to the A500 using the USB cable.
1) First DVD was a tennis match with a file size of 3.2GB
Took about 12 minutes to transfer the VIDEO_TS folder
- Rockplayer - played the without any problems
- Moboplayer - ditto
- Vplayer - ditto
But, with all three applications, I could not easily move about in the video, for example by dragging the marker that showed the place in the video. The fast forward button would send the marker to the end of the video.
2) Second DVD was a musical concert with a file size of 5.8GB
Took about 18 minutes to copy the VIDEO_TS folder over to the A500
- Rockplay - got stumped and kept asking me to 'Please choose audio track'. But after a couple of press of the Play button, the video began to play.
- Vplayer - could not get this to play the video.
- Moboplay was the best. It moved all the VOB files to the top of the directory and played the selected file without any problems.
While the file transfer did take a while, it sure beats encoding the video into another format. Hate to think how long it would take to encode the 5.8GB file in (2) above.
Now, if only VLC would bring out their player for Android.

I've been using moboplayer for this. Seems to play everything I throw at it, except for 720p MKVs(which just happen to compose about half my media...)

Same issue here. Have a good sized library of 1080p and 720p mkv's with some HD mp4's that I threw in for S&G's. None of them want to play right at all. I would have figured with the plug-in for A7 that Xoom people were reporting was the right one for Moboplayer, we'd at least have 720p capability, but nope. And I spent the whopping $10 for a micro to std HDMI cable at Fry's so I can use it as movie player at the hotels while I'm getting jet lag week to week.
1280x536 (what's considered 720p) AVI's are the best I can do so far.

lostsoul3471 said:
Same issue here. Have a good sized library of 1080p and 720p mkv's with some HD mp4's that I threw in for S&G's. None of them want to play right at all. I would have figured with the plug-in for A7 that Xoom people were reporting was the right one for Moboplayer, we'd at least have 720p capability, but nope. And I spent the whopping $10 for a micro to std HDMI cable at Fry's so I can use it as movie player at the hotels while I'm getting jet lag week to week.
1280x536 (what's considered 720p) AVI's are the best I can do so far.
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536 is a lot closer to 480p if you add in overscan.

muqali said:
536 is a lot closer to 480p if you add in overscan.
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I'd agree with you, if the some dozen or so files I have claiming 720p didn't fall into something real close to the 1280x536 range. Thinking it could just be the aspect ratio difference between 16:9 and 16:10 that would give us this--only speculating.
Actually I would absolutely love the ability to feed out 1080p out the hdmi port and leave the main display alone. Give us a portable media center device in the process.

That’s exactly the reason why I am still considering getting the SGS II instead of a HC tab.

M4V on GTab 10.1?

I have a few "Digital Copy" movies that I have purchased and of course I had imported them into iTunes.. Now when I put them on my tab they never work.. How can we get these movies working properly? I tried to do some reading and it seems you have to convert the M4V files with converters that cost like 50 bucks.. Is there anyways to do this for FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! God you pay for the media and they dont even let you watch it, ridiculous!!!!!!

Not sure what exactly you mean by 'digital copy'? If it is the digital copy the comes with DVD or BD disc, they are always DRMed and won't work outside of iTunes (or i devices) or WMP environment. You need to hack the DRM out of those files before you can play them on your tablet.
If it is a digital rip you created yourself, you will have to experiment with different video encode settings. m4v files with proper encoding works just fine.
Either way, you don't need to pay anything. Commercial software can't stripe out DRM (it is illegal) and most free converters can't deal with DRM.

jm6001 said:
I have a few "Digital Copy" movies that I have purchased and of course I had imported them into iTunes.. Now when I put them on my tab they never work.. How can we get these movies working properly? I tried to do some reading and it seems you have to convert the M4V files with converters that cost like 50 bucks.. Is there anyways to do this for FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! God you pay for the media and they dont even let you watch it, ridiculous!!!!!!
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If it's not drm protected, then install handbrake on your PC or Mac, it's free, and convert it to mp4 or m4v format.
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jm6001 said:
I have a few "Digital Copy" movies that I have purchased and of course I had imported them into iTunes.. Now when I put them on my tab they never work.. How can we get these movies working properly? I tried to do some reading and it seems you have to convert the M4V files with converters that cost like 50 bucks.. Is there anyways to do this for FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! God you pay for the media and they dont even let you watch it, ridiculous!!!!!!
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You can only use those on iTunes/WMP, because they're not really M4V files. They're DRM-laden pseudo-m4v files.
Sorry, you can't use these on your Tab. Blame the media companies, not Samsung.
Handbrake is a free converter that works great but it doesn't do DRM either. (Exception: It can handle the rather weak CSS DRM implemented on DVDs.)
I have had success using DVDFab HD Decrypter to remove the DRM from Blu-Ray movies and then Handbraking the result down to 720p for the Tab.