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help partition Apps to SD on Froyo

or in general, how would i setup the sd card if it has old apps installed? i want to add more to my main sd and the installer partition shrink. is there any windows app for this? i cant see the apps installed on that card. im looking for a guide/tutorial for sd cards for android use.

i found a guide and know how to access this but i dont know how to change the sizes and what ext is and all that. i have the 4gb card the nexus came with and want to make 3gb of storage and the rest to be for installing apps. so how would i set this up in the recovery thing?

errr. dont know if my reaserch is correct for the 4GB card that came with the nexus one...
i set SWAP-SIZE to 32MB
then EXT2 to 768MB
upgraded to EXT3
upgraded to EXT4

you don't need to partition SD if you are running Froyo; it does it automatically, you can move to SD if the app creator sets it up that way
right now there are few apps that can be moved to SD on Froyo, like autostarts, setcpu 1.54
or you can use terminal emulator and type the following:
1. su (press enter)
2. pm setInstallLocation 2 (press enter)
3. reboot
this will install all apps to SD and you can also move apps to SD by going to settings>applications>select whatever app and move to SD
only issue is that widgets and system apps should remain in the internal and sometimes it takes a while for the apps to show up after reboot, which is why the best thing is for the app creator to implement the SD move

thanks for the helpful reply. so how do i undo the partition to the stock? also, where do the apps gets stored on sd card?

D200P13 said:
thanks for the helpful reply. so how do i undo the partition to the stock? also, where do the apps gets stored on sd card?
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The apps are stored on the ext partition which you can't mount on Windows. Not easily anyway. The easiest way is to boot into Linux. If you don't have a distro installed, download Ubuntu and boot off the Live CD. Pop in your SD card [using an adapter, you can't do it via USB with this method], open GParted, unmount all partitions, delete the swap and ext partitions, and resize the FAT32 partition to take up the whole card. There is some chance of data corruption during resizing so make sure you back up the card. The apps will be deleted obviously so make sure you back them up with Titanium Backup or whatever app you use. Finally put the card back in your phone, force Froyo apps to SD as jblazea50 described above and restore apps with your backup utility.

[Q] Should I format or partition my SD card?

I rooted my Aria using Unrevoked's one-click method, and flashed ATTN's FR008 ROM. I currently have only the factory 2GB sd card. I dl'd APPS2SD from the market and have moved the apps that are eligible to the SD card. There are still many apps that are still on the internal storage. My internal storage usually hovers around 100MB free; for right now anyway.
How low can the internal storage get before performance begins to degrade? Would it benefit me to dl ROM Manager? I am not too familiar with the pros/cons and/or procedures for partitioning the sd card.
Any help or advice is greatly appreciated! This is a great place for support and information and THANKS to all the dev's for all their hard work!!!

Perseids said:
I rooted my Aria using Unrevoked's one-click method, and flashed ATTN's FR008 ROM. I currently have only the factory 2GB sd card. I dl'd APPS2SD from the market and have moved the apps that are eligible to the SD card. There are still many apps that are still on the internal storage. My internal storage usually hovers around 100MB free; for right now anyway.
How low can the internal storage get before performance begins to degrade? Would it benefit me to dl ROM Manager? I am not too familiar with the pros/cons and/or procedures for partitioning the sd card.
Any help or advice is greatly appreciated! This is a great place for support and information and THANKS to all the dev's for all their hard work!!!
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The internal storage you're seeing is strictly for apps and doesn't affect the operating system in any way. So no performance will ever be lost due to filling this up with as apps. To see "system"memory go menu> applications> running services. That's the one that affects performance.
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What is the deal with EXT/2 and etc...?
I haven't figured out what the deal with the EXT partition is yet. I got a new 8GB card and was gonna put it in but was gonna wait til I understood all that first.
Should I Do a nandroid backup..
copy all contents of current SD card to pc...
Insert new card...
Format/Partition new card...
Copy previous backup of SD card to new card...
I'm just a little lost as to the advantage of the partition.
Any info. is greatly appreciated!

Noob question sorry, Is there a point where the memory in the device affects its performance? Like if too much of the internal memory is used will the phone run slower? Or what is the point of this apps to SD.

Using DT's A2SD method involving an ext2, 3, or 4 partition on the SD card moves every downloaded and installed app (minus system apps) onto the SD card. The A2SD provided with Froyo only allows apps that have been updated to work with A2SD would be able to move.
Moving all of your apps to the SD card is essentially the same as Cyanogen's setting to move all apps to the SD card. However, with the partition and DT's A2SD, it mounts the SD card's partition during the boot process which allows widgets and Facebook sync to be run off the SD card directly. (ie. Facebook sync will always stay synced no matter how many times you reboot, widgets will not have a "Problem Loading Widget" bar on your homescreen after you reboot)
With the normal A2SD, the apps on the SD card will load last after your phone has already booted up ("Preparing SD Card" in the notification bar).
Plus, you would be able to move your dalvik-cache (and app data --> experimental) to the SD card's partition also freeing up more internal memory.

Perseids said:
I haven't figured out what the deal with the EXT partition is yet. I got a new 8GB card and was gonna put it in but was gonna wait til I understood all that first.
Should I Do a nandroid backup..
copy all contents of current SD card to pc...
Insert new card...
Format/Partition new card...
Copy previous backup of SD card to new card...
I'm just a little lost as to the advantage of the partition.
Any info. is greatly appreciated!
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The above steps are correct. If you want an ext partition you can do that through rom manager (will wipe sd card so back up to pc).
Unless you plan to run the DT a2sd you don't need an extension partition. Froyo a2sd moves the apps to the fat32 partition, the main partition of your sd card, not an ext partition.
I personally recommend using DT a2sd.
Sent from my cm7 Aria using XDA App

vicmora5 said:
Noob question sorry, Is there a point where the memory in the device affects its performance? Like if too much of the internal memory is used will the phone run slower? Or what is the point of this apps to SD.
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you could fill your internal memory up to the point where there was no more room for apps to cache I suppose. But that's really it.
Sent from my cm7 Aria using XDA App

Success, but need more help
Okay, I got my sd card partioned (512MB EXT, 64MB swap). I dl'd and installed DT's A2SD and the best I can tell upon reboot A2SD moved apps to SD card. The only way I can tell is using DriveWatch.
I am using GOLauncher EX and now the flipping in the tray appears to be greatly affected by the app being on the SD card. Is there a way to move selected apps back to the phone?

No there isn't.
BTW you can check if your apps are on your SD card by typing
su
a2sd check
a2sd diskspace
In the terminal emulator

Perseids said:
Okay, I got my sd card partioned (512MB EXT, 64MB swap). I dl'd and installed DT's A2SD and the best I can tell upon reboot A2SD moved apps to SD card. The only way I can tell is using DriveWatch.
I am using GOLauncher EX and now the flipping in the tray appears to be greatly affected by the app being on the SD card. Is there a way to move selected apps back to the phone?
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What you can do is delete go launcher then unzip the rom you flashed and put the go launcher apk into the /system/app folder and rezip it. boot into recovery, wipe cache and dalvic (don't wipe data), and then reflash your rom. DT a2sd doesn't move apps on the /system partition. This is what I do with launcherpro.
EDIT: you can try just pulling the go launcher apk via ADB and then removing it from the /data/app folder and then pushing the pulled app to the /system/app folder. This would be easier but I've had apps that FC after using this method. Some work, some don't.
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Great advice!. Seems there is always more than one way to skin a cat. I will give one of those methods a try.

games won't start from sdcard

there is some rom (like typhoon cyanogenmod) that doesn't allow to start 90% of games from sdcard
there is a solution for that? the internal memory space is so low and there are games that need 20+ mb of space

Use A2SD+ feature and move the games to the phone memory.

some games just don't work when installed on your sd card

When you use a rom that supports the ext partition, DO NOT choose to install to card, and do not use app manager to move it to the card, It all happens automatically, it will say its on the phone but will be on the SD in the ext part.

samsamuel said:
When you use a rom that supports the ext partition, DO NOT choose to install to card, and do not use app manager to move it to the card, It all happens automatically, it will say its on the phone but will be on the SD in the ext part.
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how do it? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12433831#post12433831
for this for example?

thats the rom im using, and i never have to do anything, it automatically puts apps on the ext partition of the sd card.
If you haven't set up your sd card ext yet, you need to do that first. you can do it from within CWM, or there are several threads 'how to partition your card'. Dont forget to back up your sd card contents first, , creating teh ext partition will wipe your card.
I would recommend you perform a clean install after you have partitioned your sd card.

This problem is solved in the new version of hyperdroid cm7 ROM

it's true?

app2sd

I installed Kyrillos Rom v1.0 and partioned my formatted SD Card in CWM with 1024m for ext3 and 256 for swap. But booted into the OS and there's no extra RAM and it shows no extra storage.
And if I then install an application it still takes up phone memory, and using app2sd to move it to SD Card still puts it on my main SD Partition.
The only thing that changed is now when I remove the SD Card the phone crashes.

Install titanium backup and look for sdcard(app2sd), you will see the extra space..
Kyrillos uses app2sd v2 which doesn't totaly transfer all data to sd ext, a part of internal memory will always be used.. don't worry it wont get full till you indtal ~150 apps

Rapier07 said:
Install titanium backup and look for sdcard(app2sd), you will see the extra space..
Kyrillos uses app2sd v2 which doesn't totaly transfer all data to sd ext, a part of internal memory will always be used.. don't worry it wont get full till you indtal ~150 apps
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To get apps on the ext3 partition, do I have to use the app2sd app and move apps to SD? Or do I just download like normal and they get put on that partition?

in fact, it hided,you can use R.E. explore or TIback to show swap and app2sd area.

Okay this is strange. Titanium backup is showing an app2sd partition even when I take out my sd card ...

[Q] SD card

Hi guys, so I backed up my sd card and went on a little quest. Never knew what this did so tried it out, went onto clockwork and did an sd partition of 1024mb. Turned phone on sd card worked fine, tried installing a big game but still it said not enough space when there is 2.5gb empty on sd card. So that failed I went onto MAGLDR and onto services and cleared sd partition. Now I turn phone on and it says no sd card and prompts me to format it on status bar, but then it still doesn't work. Tried mounting it via usb but still the sd card is not showing up. Has my sd card corrupted? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Also some instructions on how to properly install apps 2 sd, as just moving to the sd card on settings doesn't fully move the app, some of it still remains in the internal and after installing 50+ apps it comes down to 20mb internal memory and says I have no more internal space.
Regards

Tenpin said:
Also some instructions on how to properly install apps 2 sd, as just moving to the sd card on settings doesn't fully move the app, some of it still remains in the internal and after installing 50+ apps it comes down to 20mb internal memory and says I have no more internal space.
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if a rom supports a2sd (typhoon, for example,) you do not have to do anything, it will automatically use an ext partition if it finds one.
If you choose 'move to sd card' for an app, it will be REMOVED from the ext partition, and placed on the fat32 partition (where it may not work), so DO NOT choose 'move to sd', all your apps should be set to internal, and the rom will put them in the ext partition.

Tenpin said:
Hi guys, so I backed up my sd card and went on a little quest. Never knew what this did so tried it out, went onto clockwork and did an sd partition of 1024mb. Turned phone on sd card worked fine, tried installing a big game but still it said not enough space when there is 2.5gb empty on sd card. So that failed I went onto MAGLDR and onto services and cleared sd partition. Now I turn phone on and it says no sd card and prompts me to format it on status bar, but then it still doesn't work. Tried mounting it via usb but still the sd card is not showing up. Has my sd card corrupted? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Also some instructions on how to properly install apps 2 sd, as just moving to the sd card on settings doesn't fully move the app, some of it still remains in the internal and after installing 50+ apps it comes down to 20mb internal memory and says I have no more internal space.
Regards
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Well, i would start with HP USB Disk Storage Format Tool to format the sd card back to original. Then start from there.
samsamuel said:
if a rom supports a2sd (typhoon, for example,) you do not have to do anything, it will automatically use an ext partition if it finds one.
If you choose 'move to sd card' for an app, it will be REMOVED from the ext partition, and placed on the fat32 partition (where it may not work), so DO NOT choose 'move to sd', all your apps should be set to internal, and the rom will put them in the ext partition.
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And @samsamuel wouldnt he benefit more from data2ext? From my experiences, that puts EVERYTHING on the ext partition. just puting my two cents in, (its about all i got xP )

elesbb said:
And @samsamuel wouldnt he benefit more from data2ext? From my experiences, that puts EVERYTHING on the ext partition. just puting my two cents in, (its about all i got xP )
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Depends on what your needs are, .,,, running everything from the SD means much of the nand is unused, what's the point of that? Typhoon for instance,, 150mb system, say 20mb for cwm and boot, that's (round up) 200mb used out of 512,, nothing is gonna use the other 300mb, so might as well let the data use it.

Right I'm running this ice ROM off the nand: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1441462
[22-04-12][ROM] Unofficial AOKP for HD2 [Build 33][4.0.4][tytung_ics_r1]
It does say apps2sd is possible on thread op, so would I just partition my SD card on clockwork to 1024mb then just install apps without moving them to SD manually? Is that really it?
Regards,
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samsamuel said:
Depends on what your needs are, .,,, running everything from the SD means much of the nand is unused, what's the point of that? Typhoon for instance,, 150mb system, say 20mb for cwm and boot, that's (round up) 200mb used out of 512,, nothing is gonna use the other 300mb, so might as well let the data use it.
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True, thats why i dont use either, i have the Tmous version so i ihave about 760 mb of unused nand. Only way id prolly use a partition is if i got a lot of bad blocks, but i only have about 5 bad blocks right now in just my data partition.
Tenpin said:
Right I'm running this ice ROM off the nand: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1441462
[22-04-12][ROM] Unofficial AOKP for HD2 [Build 33][4.0.4][tytung_ics_r1]
It does say apps2sd is possible on thread op, so would I just partition my SD card on clockwork to 1024mb then just install apps without moving them to SD manually? Is that really it?
Regards,
Sent from my HTC HD2 using xda premium
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Yes, yes it is just partition sd card using minitool partition or disk utility(linux) and you should be good, i dont believe you have to reinstall the ROM either because apps2sd is an init.d script which gets ran upon boot.