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Transfering ext3 + apps to new SD card

Quick question, I have an 2GB (Non-class 6 SD card) and it was working okay with my G1 phone. I partitioned it with no problem, have apps, themes, roms, basically the whole nine yards on it. I recently just purchased a new 8 gb 6 class SD card and was wondering if Paragon Manager or any other program can transfer the data over flawlessly? I know I have to create a new ext3 part (probably using paragon manager) and then transfer all the data over...but was wondering if anybody else did this before without running into any issues and what was the overall process you took? I appreciate any help. Thank you.

no issues here, done it a couple times. didnt use paragon though. used ext support on my mac to copy all files from both partitions, then format the card using GParted on my Slax USB. then put my files back, inserted into g1 and booted the phone. cyanogens MOD works great with it.

malaeus said:
no issues here, done it a couple times. didnt use paragon though. used ext support on my mac to copy all files from both partitions, then format the card using GParted on my Slax USB. then put my files back, inserted into g1 and booted the phone. cyanogens MOD works great with it.
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Quick question for you, did your apps still show as installed in the market when you swapped cards? I have been meaning to get my 8GB cards (I have a few with tv episodes on them) set up so I can swap between them and my 16GB at any time, but this question is one that is keeping me from trying yet (that and a lack of time).
Thanks.

insert original card and do not mount it (or unmount it if auto),
dd if=/dev/sdcardfile of=/home/yourusername/tmpsdbackup
swap cards and do not mount it (or unmount it if automatic),
dd if=/home/yourusername/tmpsdbackup of=/dev/sdcardfile
Then run gparted, move your ext partition to the end of the disk and expand your crap32 partition to max.

wait so do i just partion my 8 gig c6 and than copy all files off my other sd card and i should be able to boot up, of course redownload everything or should i not try that
and when i say copy my files ove3r just the ones on my sdcard not all my apps

Goog1e Phone said:
Quick question, I have an 2GB (Non-class 6 SD card) and it was working okay with my G1 phone. I partitioned it with no problem, have apps, themes, roms, basically the whole nine yards on it. I recently just purchased a new 8 gb 6 class SD card and was wondering if Paragon Manager or any other program can transfer the data over flawlessly? I know I have to create a new ext3 part (probably using paragon manager) and then transfer all the data over...but was wondering if anybody else did this before without running into any issues and what was the overall process you took? I appreciate any help. Thank you.
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I used Partition Manager to partition my 8g Sd card into a Ext3 partition. What I did was just wipe, reflash my ROM (Cyanogen's 3.4) and reinstalled all the apps from the Market. It seems like it would take forever, but it really didn't.
The reason why I reflashed was because when I changed SD cards originally, it stopped reading all the original files from the original SD. All-in-all, it was very easy to just: Wipe, Reflash the ROM, then reinstall apps from Market, which should still be listed under Downloads.

how do you format an ext3 partion

[Q] Should I format or partition my SD card?

I rooted my Aria using Unrevoked's one-click method, and flashed ATTN's FR008 ROM. I currently have only the factory 2GB sd card. I dl'd APPS2SD from the market and have moved the apps that are eligible to the SD card. There are still many apps that are still on the internal storage. My internal storage usually hovers around 100MB free; for right now anyway.
How low can the internal storage get before performance begins to degrade? Would it benefit me to dl ROM Manager? I am not too familiar with the pros/cons and/or procedures for partitioning the sd card.
Any help or advice is greatly appreciated! This is a great place for support and information and THANKS to all the dev's for all their hard work!!!

Perseids said:
I rooted my Aria using Unrevoked's one-click method, and flashed ATTN's FR008 ROM. I currently have only the factory 2GB sd card. I dl'd APPS2SD from the market and have moved the apps that are eligible to the SD card. There are still many apps that are still on the internal storage. My internal storage usually hovers around 100MB free; for right now anyway.
How low can the internal storage get before performance begins to degrade? Would it benefit me to dl ROM Manager? I am not too familiar with the pros/cons and/or procedures for partitioning the sd card.
Any help or advice is greatly appreciated! This is a great place for support and information and THANKS to all the dev's for all their hard work!!!
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The internal storage you're seeing is strictly for apps and doesn't affect the operating system in any way. So no performance will ever be lost due to filling this up with as apps. To see "system"memory go menu> applications> running services. That's the one that affects performance.
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What is the deal with EXT/2 and etc...?
I haven't figured out what the deal with the EXT partition is yet. I got a new 8GB card and was gonna put it in but was gonna wait til I understood all that first.
Should I Do a nandroid backup..
copy all contents of current SD card to pc...
Insert new card...
Format/Partition new card...
Copy previous backup of SD card to new card...
I'm just a little lost as to the advantage of the partition.
Any info. is greatly appreciated!

Noob question sorry, Is there a point where the memory in the device affects its performance? Like if too much of the internal memory is used will the phone run slower? Or what is the point of this apps to SD.

Using DT's A2SD method involving an ext2, 3, or 4 partition on the SD card moves every downloaded and installed app (minus system apps) onto the SD card. The A2SD provided with Froyo only allows apps that have been updated to work with A2SD would be able to move.
Moving all of your apps to the SD card is essentially the same as Cyanogen's setting to move all apps to the SD card. However, with the partition and DT's A2SD, it mounts the SD card's partition during the boot process which allows widgets and Facebook sync to be run off the SD card directly. (ie. Facebook sync will always stay synced no matter how many times you reboot, widgets will not have a "Problem Loading Widget" bar on your homescreen after you reboot)
With the normal A2SD, the apps on the SD card will load last after your phone has already booted up ("Preparing SD Card" in the notification bar).
Plus, you would be able to move your dalvik-cache (and app data --> experimental) to the SD card's partition also freeing up more internal memory.

Perseids said:
I haven't figured out what the deal with the EXT partition is yet. I got a new 8GB card and was gonna put it in but was gonna wait til I understood all that first.
Should I Do a nandroid backup..
copy all contents of current SD card to pc...
Insert new card...
Format/Partition new card...
Copy previous backup of SD card to new card...
I'm just a little lost as to the advantage of the partition.
Any info. is greatly appreciated!
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The above steps are correct. If you want an ext partition you can do that through rom manager (will wipe sd card so back up to pc).
Unless you plan to run the DT a2sd you don't need an extension partition. Froyo a2sd moves the apps to the fat32 partition, the main partition of your sd card, not an ext partition.
I personally recommend using DT a2sd.
Sent from my cm7 Aria using XDA App

vicmora5 said:
Noob question sorry, Is there a point where the memory in the device affects its performance? Like if too much of the internal memory is used will the phone run slower? Or what is the point of this apps to SD.
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you could fill your internal memory up to the point where there was no more room for apps to cache I suppose. But that's really it.
Sent from my cm7 Aria using XDA App

Success, but need more help
Okay, I got my sd card partioned (512MB EXT, 64MB swap). I dl'd and installed DT's A2SD and the best I can tell upon reboot A2SD moved apps to SD card. The only way I can tell is using DriveWatch.
I am using GOLauncher EX and now the flipping in the tray appears to be greatly affected by the app being on the SD card. Is there a way to move selected apps back to the phone?

No there isn't.
BTW you can check if your apps are on your SD card by typing
su
a2sd check
a2sd diskspace
In the terminal emulator

Perseids said:
Okay, I got my sd card partioned (512MB EXT, 64MB swap). I dl'd and installed DT's A2SD and the best I can tell upon reboot A2SD moved apps to SD card. The only way I can tell is using DriveWatch.
I am using GOLauncher EX and now the flipping in the tray appears to be greatly affected by the app being on the SD card. Is there a way to move selected apps back to the phone?
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What you can do is delete go launcher then unzip the rom you flashed and put the go launcher apk into the /system/app folder and rezip it. boot into recovery, wipe cache and dalvic (don't wipe data), and then reflash your rom. DT a2sd doesn't move apps on the /system partition. This is what I do with launcherpro.
EDIT: you can try just pulling the go launcher apk via ADB and then removing it from the /data/app folder and then pushing the pulled app to the /system/app folder. This would be easier but I've had apps that FC after using this method. Some work, some don't.
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Great advice!. Seems there is always more than one way to skin a cat. I will give one of those methods a try.

Want to use the 2GB internal memory for apps - how?

Hey there,
the U8800 has a 2GB partition which isn't used at all when an external SD-card is installed.
The internal 2GB partition is mounted to /HWUserData and is accessible. Now I want to use it for my apps. With the typical App2SD-apps that are available in the market I cannot move the apps to this partition. They are always moved to the external card.
Moving the apps manually is not very helpful as Android treats them as install-packages when I open them within the file manager.
tl;dr: The 2GB-partition does only show up within the file manager, how can i use it for apps etc.?
XphX

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1112857

Thank your for your answer; I do not want to use that program; I fear voiding the warranty. I have no problem with installing custom-ROMs, but I won't change the partitions of the internal memory.
I'll take out the external SD-card for a moment, maybe I can install the apps to the 2GB-part then...
Seriously, why does Huawei include 2GB of memory if it is not usable?

Use the default apps2sd option.

I've been thinking about this myself and thought about changing the mount points so the internal 2GB SD is formatted as ext then linked to /sd-ext and used as an a2sd partition. The advantage is that, unlike normal a2sd, you will still be able to remove the microSD card.
The problem would be that recovery images wouldn't like this as they always expect a2sd to be the second partition on the microSD. It would also stop the backups from working..
It's something I'll need to think about a lot.

flibblesan said:
The advantage is that, unlike normal a2sd, you will still be able to remove the microSD card
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That is exactly what I want to do. a2sd simply does not recognize the partition as it expects it to be a second partition within the external sd. Could changing the mount point resolve this issue? Where would I even mount it to? The external card will still be the one recognized (or not?)..

[Q] vegacomb upgrading sd card

Hey,
I'm sure there is a way to do this but I'm not sure!
I have just upgraded to vegacomb and are still learning! I have the stock 4gb SD card at the moment and want to upgrade. Do I have to start from scrafch again or can I copy every thing from one to the other..... the from and all apps etc?
Thanks

First thing is to make sure you make a backup of your data in your 4GB card if it has enough space ( From the recovery bootloader ).
Then you copy all the folders on mem card into a folder on your computer. Make sure you select any hidden or file system files on the mem card and copy them too.
Depending on how you want to use your new card, you can either format it for FAT32 or mixture of fat32 and ext3 . If you are planing to move you apps to SD using link2SD, i recommend have dual format which allows copying "most" of the apps to the mem card without effecting how they work. Best way to do it is to create FAT32 first and as the first-to-read partition then create ext3. make sure both partitions are primary.
I use Easeus Partion Master ( on windows ) to format the card with dual file systems.
After you did it, you can copy back the files which you saved on your computer at first stage back to the new mem card.
Hope it helps

Hi, yeah ttah does help thank you mate. So the actual ROM (vegacomb) is stored on the tablet and not the card then... thats what I wanted to doubler check.
Thanks mate.

[Q] Are apps stored on SD or internal memory?

I am running CM7 on a 16GB Sandisk Class 4 uSD. I'm very new to this, so I hope someone can help me with my question. When I download apps from Google Play, where does it get stored? When I go to Settings -> Storage, I see the following: SD card/Total Space = 13.31 GB, SD card/Available space = 13.22 GB. Under Internal storage/Total space = 0.93GB, Internal storage/Available space = 680 MB. Under Additional storage: /mnt/emmc Total space = 1.0GB, Additional storage: /mnt/emmc Available space 1.0GB.
So it looks like the apps are being stored in "Internal storage", but I'm not sure whether that is in NC's internal memory, or the SD card. On the one hand, the SD card shows 13.22 GB available out of 13.31 GB, so it looks like it is not being used. But on the other hand, Additional storage: /mnt/emmc Available space is 1.0 GB, so I assume that is my 1.0 GB allotted to me by B&N, so it also doesn't look like I'm using up the NC's internal memory.
So where are my apps being stored? If they are not being stored on the SD card, how can I move the existing apps to the SD card, and also how do I set it up so that all apps (and book) downloads go to the SD card in the future?

Your apps are running on your SD card's "internal" partition which is still on the SD card.
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Size of Internal Storage?
If Internal storage is on the SD card, why is it only 0.93 GB? Shouldn't it be (in the case of a 16GB card) 13 GB? How can I use the 13 GB that is left on my SD card?

voyager28 said:
If Internal storage is on the SD card, why is it only 0.93 GB? Shouldn't it be (in the case of a 16GB card) 13 GB? How can I use the 13 GB that is left on my SD card?
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In CM terms, internal storage means your /data partition. For SD installed CM, your /data is still on your SD, just in a separate partition. And when play store installs an app, it installs the application files to your /data partition on the SD.
When your SD was first set up, several partitions were created on it, one of which was /data. The size for the /data partition was set when your SD was partitioned. This partitioning is why your 16GB looks like it now only has 13GB. Some of the space was set aside for other uses.
The 13GB is your media partition on the SD. It is named 'sdcard' in CM terms. It is to be used for your media files, books, movies, pictures, etc. And installed apps use it to store any files they need to (like files they download, etc.).
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Re-sizing Partitions
j8048188 and leapinlar, thanks for explaining to this noobie where apps are stored. Is it possible to re-size the /data and /sdcard partitions, to say, 3GB and 11GB, without wiping out the apps I already downloaded? If so, how could I do it?

voyager28 said:
j8048188 and leapinlar, thanks for explaining to this noobie where apps are stored. Is it possible to re-size the /data and /sdcard partitions, to say, 3GB and 11GB, without wiping out the apps I already downloaded? If so, how could I do it?
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Unfortunately, no, not with Windows and not once you have installed a ROM and there is information stored in /data. Windows does not know how to read the data format that /data uses. Windows based partition managers can manipulate the /data partition if there is no data in it. And the only time that is true is just after you have booted the new SD, but before you have installed your first ROM. (However, if you have Linux, you can use partition manager software there to resize with data in it since Linux knows how to read the data).
So if you have Windows and you want it set bigger, you have to catch it before you install your first ROM on it. You can back up your installed apps with titanium backup, start over with your SD again, manipulate the partitions before installing the ROM and restore your apps later. If you decide to do that, use Mini-Tool Partition Manager and make partition 4 (media) smaller and partition 3 (data) larger. Be sure to copy the titanium backup files to your PC because they will be wiped out if you start over.

leapinlar said:
Unfortunately, no, not with Windows and not once you have installed a ROM and there is information stored in /data. Windows does not know how to read the data format that /data uses. Windows based partition managers can manipulate the /data partition if there is no data in it. And the only time that is true is just after you have booted the new SD, but before you have installed your first ROM. (However, if you have Linux, you can use partition manager software there to resize with data in it since Linux knows how to read the data).
So if you have Windows and you want it set bigger, you have to catch it before you install your first ROM on it. You can back up your installed apps with titanium backup, start over with your SD again, manipulate the partitions before installing the ROM and restore your apps later. If you decide to do that, use Mini-Tool Partition Manager and make partition 4 (media) smaller and partition 3 (data) larger. Be sure to copy the titanium backup files to your PC because they will be wiped out if you start over.
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Leapinlar, I'm running Ubuntu on one of my computers, so any advice you can give me will be appreciated.

voyager28 said:
Leapinlar, I'm running Ubuntu on one of my computers, so any advice you can give me will be appreciated.
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In ubuntu, use gparted to resize the partitions on the sd. Shrink partition 4 (leaving space in front of it) and expand partition 3 to fill it. And usually people say 2GB is large enough for partition 3. If you find later it is not big enough, just do this again.

leapinlar said:
In ubuntu, use gparted to resize the partitions on the sd. Shrink partition 4 (leaving space in front of it) and expand partition 3 to fill it. And usually people say 2GB is large enough for partition 3. If you find later it is not big enough, just do this again.
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Thanks, leapinlar! I will try this tonight!