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[REQ] Over-clocking guide

if someone please can post a noob friendly guide to over-clock the phone, please make it very detailed guide, because it is my first android phone and i'm not used to this environment yet, like where should i write insmod? i use windows 7 btw(if it makes any different)
thank you in advance, i'm sure it will be helpful for allot of people.

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There is already a thread about overclocking the DHD which gives instructions and there are videos around as well.
Read here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=815808 And read up on the G2 guide as well. Please read up about it fully first before diving in, while we all want to have fast devices, why would you like to overclock your phone, and have you fully read up about it before or are you just jumping in for the sake of it?

i did all what have mentioned above, and as i said it's my "firs" android phone, so i dont know "anything" so that why i requested the guide. thank you for passing by

Have a read through that link I posted. In there there is another link that gives instructions for the G2. There is also a video link in there as well that should help.
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HacKage said:
Have a read through that link I posted. In there there is another link that gives instructions for the G2. There is also a video link in there as well that should help.
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in that thread there are 2 methods, the Micheal method and that Gscript method, which both i cant do the needed files for, the modules, where to write "insmod"
thats why i needed a noob friendly guide starting from point zero, keep in mind that not just me who needs it

Again agree with hackage this isn't for new users its causes reboots and will burn your battery if not set up right and the tables are incomplete unless your going to write your own scripts etc etc

My problem with people asking for quick guides or n00b guides is that they get the guide, jump in, and inevitably moan when something goes wrong. If people read up about how to do it and don't understand, do some more research on what you don't understand. If people read up absolutely everything about how the process works, like for each kernel, addresses etc, not only will they then know how to do it, but they will also have a far better understanding of how the whole system works, and are better for it. The more you know about your system, the more you can understand and make progress instead of hoping someone will do it for you.
In saying that, we all get stuck sometimes, and we need to ask help, but everything to do with overclocking the Desire HD is on these forums, all you have to do is read.

[Q] Benefits or Rooting?

Hello, I was wondering what the benefits of rooting the My Touch 4g would be? Would this allow me to remove the bloatware that came pre-installed on the phone? Also I've heard talk of a possible better rom to put on the phone. Would someone be able to explain why this would be better and what rom might be better?
Thanks

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Hello, I was wondering what the benefits of rooting the My Touch 4g would be? Would this allow me to remove the bloatware that came pre-installed on the phone? Also I've heard talk of a possible better rom to put on the phone. Would someone be able to explain why this would be better and what rom might be better?
Thanks
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Disclaimer/Advice/Humble Opinion:
My advice (without trying to hurt anyone's feelings too much) is DON'T ROOT. I would suggest you familiarize yourself with everything (Linux, ADB, XDA, Google) before diving in head first.
Despite popular belief, having root does NOT in fact make you cooler.
Way too many new users are trying to root because they think it's cool or heard it's cool. You need to learn your device first.
If you don't know how to perform a Nandroid backup, or restore a previous ROM backup, flash updates, install custom ROM's etc, then you should NOT root. You should browse the forums here, read everything until you know it well. Google search related topics. Exhaust all available avenues, then ask questions. After you've executed all of these options you might consider rooting and starting to tinker with your device.

I second what CBC has said. They lock these phones down for business and support reasons, mainly that having root lets you pretty easily screw things up. You shouldn't root unless you have a good idea of what's actually going on, how to back out of it, etc. Just page through some of the root/unroot threads and look at all the stupid questions people post. If they don't look stupid to you, please read read read before thinking any more about rooting.
Don't take any personal offense to this, it just that there's a real chance you can brick your device. The software root itself is fairly safe but at least the original method to disabling the write protection--flashing the engineering hboot--modifies your last line of defense in fixing a broken device.

spazfishy said:
Hello, I was wondering what the benefits of rooting the My Touch 4g would be? Would this allow me to remove the bloatware that came pre-installed on the phone? Also I've heard talk of a possible better rom to put on the phone. Would someone be able to explain why this would be better and what rom might be better?
Thanks
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Benefits to you zero. If you can't do a simple search of google to find out the benefits or if rooting is even for then I can say it will have no benefits to you
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jjjackson56 said:
Benefits to you zero. If you can't do a simple search of google to find out the benefits or if rooting is even for then I can say it will have no benefits to you
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Wow, so much for friendly forum help huh...

Sorry not trying to be rude or unhelpful I'm just blunt I could've sugar coated it but what would be the point. You obviously found us using one of the many search engines out there just change your query and you won't get flamed.
As a side note anyone else in the future please do some research before asking this.
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Sometimes the benefits are little things that are not found in change logs. Things that are only discovered through usage by people who have already rooted their devices.
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thedroid said:
Sometimes the benefits are little things that are not found in change logs. Things that are only discovered through usage by people who have already rooted their devices.
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Amen! I could read all day long till I am blue in the face and I have. I did not think asking people who are familiar with the process would be such a bad thing..
Good job with the flaming though. I'll just chalk it up as internet small man syndrome...

@spazfishy
I first started tweaking my phones with a couple WM HTC devices. I did it mostly to increase performance and become a member of a community of geeks (for lack of a better term). BTW, when I say tweak I don't mean building ROMs or writing code. I'm an idiot in that regard.
I'm a year and a month into having Android phones and I still don't know anything about SDK, very, very little about ADB push/pull, etc. Still, I've managed to have fun with my phones and have rooted and toyed with them without any issue worse than a boot loop here and there. It's fun to be the first guy to get an update for a ROM because you're eagerly hitting refresh on the supporting thread. There's also a satisfaction in reading a ****load of info on these forums and figuring out something by yourself or with a little input from the guys here.
I can agree that you should read as much as you can about how these phones work. However, you don't need to know as much as you might think. What helped me was watching some youtube videos...walkthroughs of rooting and tutorials for installing ROMs.

It's **** like this, XDA.
Instead of telling this guy "sorry, rooting is too difficult for your little brain to comprehend, you're just going to end up bricking you're phone" why don't you try to help him with his problem?
I've been following XDA for a while now, and it bothers me that many of you would rather treat this as some type of subculture when we're only talking about ****ing cell phones. Instead, why not try to grow this little community, and show carriers that consumers not only desire open source, they demand it in products they spend their hard earned money buy.
Things will only get there if we can rely on developers and enthusiasts to help spread their knowledge. Modaco and Cyanogen already do a really good job of it, and so does AOSP.
I say to spazfishy, yes. Root you're phone, but not right now. Wait a bit. As more stable ROMs became available, this is actually a good way of getting your phone to behave the way you want it to. And if you've been on this website before, you know the risks involved so do you're homework, and happy hunting.
Hopefully you'll find someone with talent willing to help you.

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I say to Daryllh, yes. Root you're phone, but not right now. .
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your post was good but it was spazfishy who was asking the question. it's all good.

Sl3PR said:
Instead of telling this guy "sorry, rooting is too difficult for your little brain to comprehend, you're just going to end up bricking you're phone" why don't you try to help him with his problem?
I've been following XDA for a while now, and it bothers me that many of you would rather treat this as some type of subculture when we're only talking about ****ing cell phones. Instead, why not try to grow this little community, and show carriers that consumers not only desire open source, they demand it in products they spend their hard earned money buy.
Things will only get there if we can rely on developers and enthusiasts to help spread their knowledge. Modaco and Cyanogen already do a really good job of it, and so does AOSP.
I say to Daryllh, yes. Root you're phone, but not right now. Wait a bit. As more stable ROMs became available, this is actually a good way of getting your phone to behave the way you want it to. And if you've been on this website before, you know the risks involved so do you're homework, and happy hunting.
Hopefully you'll find someone with talent willing to help you.
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I SECOND this sentiment. yes, I agree with the overall concept that people should do a search on the forums first and that we don't "need " several separate threads with the same info... however how much better is it really to have a bunch of threads floating around (taking up just as much space as the redundant threads that everyone treats as a plague) chastising and mocking people who just want a little help with their friggin phone??
I've recently been spending a lot of time on these forums after picking up my mt4g and as useful as these forums are - every third thread is someone belittling a poster for asking a simple question. it's pathetic and not beneficial to our community.
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ckisgen said:
I SECOND this sentiment. yes, I agree with the overall concept that people should do a search on the forums first and that we don't "need " several separate threads with the same info... however how much better is it really to have a bunch of threads floating around (taking up just as much space as the redundant threads that everyone treats as a plague) chastising and mocking people who just want a little help with their friggin phone??
I've recently been spending a lot of time on these forums after picking up my mt4g and as useful as these forums are - every third thread is someone belittling a poster for asking a simple question. it's pathetic and not beneficial to our community.
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Great. Then why don't you and Sl3PR be the first to start helping. Your turn.

People should off just told him the benefits of rooting so he can learn when he bricks his phone on what rooting is about.

jeff7790 said:
People should off just told him the benefits of rooting so he can learn when he bricks his phone on what rooting is about.
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You're right. I agree. Let them brick. Then be right back here begging for help.
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Its not that we are flaming anyone its just that we see the same questions over and over. If the question was I've rooted my device now what can do any pointers you would've gotten much more answers. I remember before I rooted my first device I had the same question so I googled that and it came up with pros and cons simple as that.
As far as the small man syndrome over the internet I drive a huge diesel truck with smoke stacks chew and work out endlessly but I'm 4'11" so I don't just do it over the internet. ;-)
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People should off just told him the benefits of rooting so he can learn when he bricks his phone on what rooting is about.
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Ya so he could send it back thus driving up the price of new phones and causing phone manufacturers to lose money and causing more headaches for them as well as others.
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jjjackson56 said:
Its not that we are flaming anyone its just that we see the same questions over and over. If the question was I've rooted my device now what can do any pointers you would've gotten much more answers. I remember before I rooted my first device I had the same question so I googled that and it came up with pros and cons simple as that.
As far as the small man syndrome over the internet I drive a huge diesel truck with smoke stacks chew and work out endlessly but I'm 4'11" so I don't just do it over the internet. ;-)
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yes, heaven forbid he not do EXACTLY what you did!
in a Q&A forum no less..give me a break. and no, I'm not gonna keep going on and on about this in this thread. i'm done.
it just proves the original point i was trying to make - which is now we just have another thread on this boards of people being a**holes and talking down to other people just because they don't possess the exact same information you do or because they aren't going about your perfect prescribed process for obtaining said information..whatever.
if someone asks a question you don't like - why don't you just go re-root your phone? or put your wife's cat in the microwave?
if you have the answer - why not take the 90 seconds it was going to take you to be a giant tool and just answer the question?
OR if redundant posts is really THAT big of a problem on here - then have moderators just delete these posts? or figure out how to become a moderator and then you can play forum cop in all of your spare time and delete these posts and actually be part of a solution not just a part of another problem.
see all you happy campers in another post
have a nice day.
(and btw - CBC - at least your initial reply had some actual information in it and geniune advice. jjackson was just being a jerk. that's what i thought was totally unnecessary. and as far it being 'my turn' - since i've been regularly reading this forum, i do answer questions when i feel like i have something to contribute..this is my first android phone and i have only temp rooted so that's why i didn't answer his post to begin with)

Ok well I'm sorry if I otherwise offended anyone with my rants.
So lmgtfy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442480
But do not follow those instructions they are not for our device. I REPEAT DO NOT FOLLOW THOSE DIRECTIONS. Just use that as a helpful guide for information.
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Hey, a big thanks to the people that were actually helpful. For real this reply will be short and simple but seriously to the haters. Why do you even waste your time replying if you do not like my question? Are you simply here to feel powerful and mock people? Like why would you go out of your way to call me and idiot and assume I am going to break my phone? I really don't see what's in it for you besides a self attained ego boost. Hence the small man comment...
So to the helpful people: thedroid, daryllh, Sl3PR, ckisgen and anyone else with a helpful word or two your comments are much appreciated and with your wisdom I am slightly more educated and will make a decision. And to the others well I didn't know my text took up so much space!! Good luck in scaring more new users away! I hope you guys get a lot of people to click your donation buttons!

Why do people use these "guides"

I cant understand why people are using these YouTube guides for rooting their phones and it seems like they are screwing something up almost everytime. I've looked at them and most seem like there are critical steps missing. Also they give no explanation of what is actually going on. If you do a Google search xda shows up in the first few results. So it seems like it could just be pure laziness because people don't want to read and research what they are doing.
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Precisely that: Laziness. People aren't willing to just read the instructions.

Eh, for the most part, you're correct. I do like the video guides ALONGSIDE the text guides on XDA. it's nice to get a real-world reference for what step you're on.
But you are correct. Going only off of the youtube vids is generally a bad plan.

Been to a public school lately? Why read when you can watch a video?
BTW always use common sense, and go through as many guides as possible before actually going ahead.

Yes I also say use common sense but its becoming increasingly harder to find people that have the slightest bit of it.
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drtdiver83 said:
Yes I also say use common sense but its becoming increasingly harder to find people that have the slightest bit of it.
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Stop worrying yourself. Not everyone can figure out su adb etc. The videos help visualize what they are doing.
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i one who's almost always hates video reviews and instructions. you have to get past too much jibber jabber sometimes to get to the stuff you really want. at least with written instructions i can skim the bs to get to the info i need.

I use both. Theres nothing wrong with using the videos to see what goes on too.

I am one who prefers video. I don't know why but I hate reading for the most part. I will suggest always looking at multiple videos though.
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imo videos are good for folks that want to just be told what to do and not really understand what they're doing. I personally prefer to read the material and understand what i'm doing before i'm doing it so if anything happens i don't have to panic and get someone to help me.
I would sum it up similar to how mechanics shops work: some techs are technically-minded and want to know why exactly they're pulling that transmission and how to do it, some techs are just doing it for the money and wouldn't mind watching a video on how to R&R that tranny without knowing why its being done.
Different strokes for different folks, but it does lead to a lot of confusion when someone sees the wrong video on youtube as opposed to reading about rooting in general and applying the principles to the subtleties of different devices.
This has always been the issue of when non-technical people try to gain entry in to the technical world, inadequate solutions are developed for problems that are seemingly complex on the surface but much more simple if we all spent the time to understand it.

People still read? or know how to?

drmacinyasha said:
Precisely that: Laziness. People aren't willing to just read the instructions.
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Wow I actually resent that. I used instructions posted in this forum and followed along with a youtube video too when I rooted. Some stuff in the instructions just didn't make sense until I saw them in the video.
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You guys are forgetting that roughly half the population doesn't learn well by reading. It could easily have little to do with intelligence or laziness and more to do with how their brain absorbs information. Some people aren't good at visualizing what they are reading, thus, being able to SEE each step performed is a huge benefit to them. Personally, I learn equally well either way, but most people do not. Perhaps you folks should do a little indepth thinking before you simply write others off as lazy.
Here is a Leraning Styles test
I'm glad some of you have found a method of learning which works well for you, but maybe you should stop being so judgmental of others who learn differently.

tejasrichard said:
You guys are forgetting that roughly half the population doesn't learn well by reading. It could easily have little to do with intelligence or laziness and more to do with how their brain absorbs information. Some people aren't good at visualizing what they are reading, thus, being able to SEE each step performed is a huge benefit to them. Personally, I learn equally well either way, but most people do not. Perhaps you folks should do a little indepth thinking before you simply write others off as lazy.
Here is a Leraning Styles test
I'm glad some of you have found a method of learning which works well for you, but maybe you should stop being so judgmental of others who learn differently.
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I don't think the problem is only that people are using the videos. It's that people completely forego the written directions in favor of only using the video. I totally understand why some people need to use the videos, but that's no reason to ignore the written instructions. A lot of times, they give details that are missing from the video, but the written word can be hard to follow. However, when you read the instructions, watch the video, then go back and forth for reference, you get all the information plus the visual walkthrough.
For example, one of my coworkers wants to root his 004 evo. I directed him to the exact threads on xda that he should read. He called me up a week or so later saying he found videos on youtube and watched them INSTEAD of reading the threads. He tried to follow along with the video, which, for all I know was for an original Evo, and he couldn't get it to work. He then proceeded to ask me questions that were all answered in the threads and said that he had no idea what he was doing and asked me to give him a step-by-step over the phone. I have an older model, so I don't know the specifics of rooting an 004 off-hand. I told him that the only way for him to get a real answer was to read the threads, and he refused. How am I supposed to help someone who refuses to help himself?

ok here is my input about the whole watching videos. If you watch someone physically do something along with reading what they are doing and why, then you gain a more "hands on" aspect, even if you arent the one doing it. Seeing what your supposed to do is ALOT different than seeing it in words..

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I don't think the problem is only that people are using the videos. It's that people completely forego the written directions in favor of only using the video. I totally understand why some people need to use the videos, but that's no reason to ignore the written instructions. A lot of times, they give details that are missing from the video, but the written word can be hard to follow. However, when you read the instructions, watch the video, then go back and forth for reference, you get all the information plus the visual walkthrough.
For example, one of my coworkers wants to root his 004 evo. I directed him to the exact threads on xda that he should read. He called me up a week or so later saying he found videos on youtube and watched them INSTEAD of reading the threads. He tried to follow along with the video, which, for all I know was for an original Evo, and he couldn't get it to work. He then proceeded to ask me questions that were all answered in the threads and said that he had no idea what he was doing and asked me to give him a step-by-step over the phone. I have an older model, so I don't know the specifics of rooting an 004 off-hand. I told him that the only way for him to get a real answer was to read the threads, and he refused. How am I supposed to help someone who refuses to help himself?
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this is exactly what bothers me the most, i understand that people learn in different ways. there are also people who should not even be attempting to do something they understand nothing about. i am one of the few people that would rather read directions step by step rather than try to follow along with a video that doesnt move at my speed. you can pause a video all you want but you cant exactly speed it up. i have also screwed up but i have learned from my mistakes and there were plenty of them. im not afraid of screwing something up if i did there is nobody to blame but myself.

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I cant understand why people are using these YouTube guides for rooting their phones and it seems like they are screwing something up almost everytime. I've looked at them and most seem like there are critical steps missing. Also they give no explanation of what is actually going on. If you do a Google search xda shows up in the first few results. So it seems like it could just be pure laziness because people don't want to read and research what they are doing.
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Because some people are visual learners?! I don't understand why it's hard to understand this concept?! Why do 99% of manuals have pictures on them? Some written guides are not as thorough or organized as others. At least on video, you can hear and see what is going on so you have a backup as to what you're doing. It also allows you to see the reaction to what you're doing instantly before trying it on your own.
Call me crazy, but these online guides are really useful to me.

For me, knowing WHY something is done really cements the process. Guides that are just step by step without an explanation don't really install full confidence in doing the task.

[Q] 1st time Rooting KF - tips/tricks

Good morning,
I recently ordered a new KF, and am planning on rooting it/etc, but am new to modding anything other than my Android phone.
Any tips or tricks that can be provided would be much appreaciated, it seems like there burrito root is pretty easy, but anything to watch out for etc?
Thanks!

MrGert said:
Good morning,
I recently ordered a new KF, and am planning on rooting it/etc, but am new to modding anything other than my Android phone.
Any tips or tricks that can be provided would be much appreaciated, it seems like there burrito root is pretty easy, but anything to watch out for etc?
Thanks!
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make sure you understand all the steps . and do it in 1 row, not like me i did it in 4 days. And look if all the files are in the root-manual. do not download them from google etc. big chance for virus's

root-manual?

I would recommend KFU.... try to get a liliputing video guide... or rootzwiki. Hope this helps sorry I do not have any links.
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Its really not to hard. Just go slow and follow each step as outlined in one of the many guides. Check the stickies and read them through to make sure you know what you are doing before hand. Also be sure to make a back up right away in case something happens. Finally dot freak out if something does go wrong because the kindle is pretty forgiving and able to be unbricked.

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Its really not to hard...
...the kindle is pretty forgiving and able to be unbricked.
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Yea, that's what it seems through reading

Complete Video Guide and troubleshooting for root,market,recovery,etc...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1417234

If you have any problems search the forums for your problem and spend a little time reading.
I will bet you any amount of money you problem has been discussed hundreds of times.
I have seen people post threads stating "OMG My Kindle Is Broken help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
And there will be 2-3 threads on the first page that had they spent 5 minutes looking could have solved their problem.

if you want to use a custom lock screen which is pretty cool, read my thread here -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1497383

[Q] Tutorial request

I've been reading and watching YouTube videos describing building android roms and kernels from source but they are really confusing. Just wondering if one of you experienced developers could do a step by step tutorial on building roms and kernels from source for our beloved A500. A substantial donation would be in your future. I think this would be a great resource for people that want to make their own roms and kernels instead of relying on other peoples releases.
Thanks for reading..

I mentioned this in another thread earlier.I think it would be best for you to start if you have not already.
developer.android.com.
also go to nvidia.c om and follow there development for tegra 2 . it would be one very long step by step tutorial.

I was wondering about that myself. I compiled my share of linux kernels back in the day. I'd like to be able to contribute to making ICS on Iconia better.
Thanks for the references.
Jim

can someoone help me too??

you might be surprised to know that devs WILL help so long as your not asking hey what is a kernel or something goofy like that. I've gotten help through pm's from devs before on theming and things like that. My advice would be to get ad far as you can on your own and when you've hut the wall and absolutely cent get any further, reach out to a dev for guidance
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