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Hey all! New here and will be ordering my G1 within the next week or so. Before i purchase it, i just have a couple questions and what-not.
-I have always been into modding things whether it be phones, PS2's, game-boys (haha) etc. But what i am not familiar with is rooting and how it will change the usability of the phone itself.
-Next, if i were to root it, i understand you basically re-flash the firmware. Well if i were to re-flash the firmware, would i still be able to have the t-mobile branding to keep the myFaves and all that?
-I'm going to be getting a decent sized memory card for it and i would like to know which capacity i should go with. 8gb Class 6 or a 16gb Class 2?
-As far as protective screens are concerned, i see there are many out there. which one provides the greatest coverage, is the cheapest, and is the most durable?
-Recommend me some must have apps for when i get it. I have been reading about Locale and ChompSMS so those are definitely going to be used. Any others i should know about?
-And lastly, what are some things you guys "dislike" about the G1? And on the other hand, what are some things you absolutely love?
Thanks in advance for the help guys! I have been on these forums a lot in the past looking at the Tilt and such and it seems like a good community.
Regards,
-Billy
Hi Billy!
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And lastly, what are some things you guys "dislike" about the G1? And on the other hand, what are some things you absolutely love?
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In reverse order of your questions:
I LOVE ...
1. The quality of the phone - phone calls are better sounding than on any phone I've had during the last ten years or so. It brings in a solid 3-bars in my home area whereas my brother's T-Mobile phone barely works here. The cell radio is excellent!
2. Open Source Linux - what more can I say other than this is the best gosh-darn handheld Linux computer around. I like being able to work on the phone through a telnet or adb session from my main computer.
3. Google - This is the best smartphone if you are a Google-phile, and like to keep your emails, appointments, tasks, and other PDA functionality AUTOMATICALLY synchronized between the smartphone and the Internet.
4. My Innocell 2600 mAh battery - It cures the poor battery problem, plain and simple.
I HATE ...
1. The Camera - WAY TOO slow to be useful. This is one area that is in great need of being fixed.
That's it! Enjoy your new phone as it will only get better with time!
Its more complicated than just flashing but more than doable and worth it! You will not lose your myfaves unless you go to adp rom. Stick to the rc roms and you will not lose myfaves. As far as apps go follow this thread for some ideas. Also look around the dream section, all your questions and curiousities are well covered here lol. I love g1 best phone I've ever had.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=478117
Bhogan123 said:
Hey all! New here and will be ordering my G1 within the next week or so. Before i purchase it, i just have a couple questions and what-not.
-I have always been into modding things whether it be phones, PS2's, game-boys (haha) etc. But what i am not familiar with is rooting and how it will change the usability of the phone itself.
Rooting gives you complete, unrestricted shell access to the device. With this you can do stuff well beyond what the stock firmware is capable of such as tethering the phone to a laptop for internet access and custom themes etc.
-Next, if i were to root it, i understand you basically re-flash the firmware. Well if i were to re-flash the firmware, would i still be able to have the t-mobile branding to keep the myFaves and all that?
You keep everything. JF's RC33 ROM is based on the official firmware which is tweaked, resigned and released.
-I'm going to be getting a decent sized memory card for it and i would like to know which capacity i should go with. 8gb Class 6 or a 16gb Class 2?
I would go with the 8gb because its faster but if you have a large music collection you want to carry around with you, the 16gb would be the obvious choice.
-As far as protective screens are concerned, i see there are many out there. which one provides the greatest coverage, is the cheapest, and is the most durable?
Not sure. I don't use protective cases because they make the phone look ugly IMO.
-Recommend me some must have apps for when i get it. I have been reading about Locale and ChompSMS so those are definitely going to be used. Any others i should know about?
CompareEverywhere, Shazam, Tether, SnapPhoto are all good apps that just about all G1 owners should have.
-And lastly, what are some things you guys "dislike" about the G1? And on the other hand, what are some things you absolutely love?
Like:
- The android platform. All of the default Google apps are incredible and you can get many more great apps in the market.
- Hardware Keyboard
- Bright, vibrant touchscreen that is capable of multi-touch like the iPhone.
Hate:
- The Battery (as soon as you turn on Wifi, Bluetooth or GPS functionality your battery won't last more then 24 hours). If your willing to almost double the size of your phone, you could get an extended battery to solve this.
- The design. As soon as a Blackberry style Android device comes out, I'm probably going to jump ship.
- T-Mobile USA. Don't expect them to help you with much, as they are clueless about anything related to Android.
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See answers above... Hope that helps
Wow thanks for the great info guys!
Directed at Datrue:
Is there any word on HTC coming out with a different battery that isnt the "extended" one
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Bhogan123 said:
-I have always been into modding things whether it be phones, PS2's, game-boys (haha) etc. But what i am not familiar with is rooting and how it will change the usability of the phone itself.
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Rooting the phone will give you additional options that you can not do with a stock phone. Wireless tethering, adjusting the browser for auto-rotate, and multi touch are some examples.
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-Next, if i were to root it, i understand you basically re-flash the firmware. Well if i were to re-flash the firmware, would i still be able to have the t-mobile branding to keep the myFaves and all that?
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As long as you stick to the t-mobile ROMS (i.e. not the developer ones) then yes.
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-I'm going to be getting a decent sized memory card for it and i would like to know which capacity i should go with. 8gb Class 6 or a 16gb Class 2?
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For me I prefer the faster 8gb card.
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-As far as protective screens are concerned, i see there are many out there. which one provides the greatest coverage, is the cheapest, and is the most durable?
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I do not know. I have ordered a couple and plan to try them out but do not have a screen guard yet.
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-Recommend me some must have apps for when i get it. I have been reading about Locale and ChompSMS so those are definitely going to be used. Any others i should know about?
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This would depend on your use style.
- ChompSMS is good,
- Wifi tether for root users (from the XDA-Developers forums)
- I like StarDialer because I am very used to dialing by name on my Windows Mobile Devices.
- gmote is great for being a couch potato
- The weather channel app.
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-And lastly, what are some things you guys "dislike" about the G1? And on the other hand, what are some things you absolutely love?
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Dislikes:
- Battery life. It is simply not good.
- The touch interface is taking getting used to. i am used to the styles and precision of a stylus enabled interface. The touch screen of the G1 (and iPhone) feels imprecise to me. The worst frustration for me is my inability to click on links in the browser without zooming in first. i am getting used to it though.
- The GPS and Google Maps combo does not compare to TomTom on my Artemis.
Likes:
- 3G wireless. This is my first phone with it and I like the speed a lot.
- Wireless tethering. Very cool and painless way to tether.
- Google Market. Has all sorts of neat stuff, much of which are free.
- overall UI. It is responsive, intuitive, and quite pleasant to use. I much prefer it to Windows mobile though I do miss some of the apps I have gotten used to over the years.
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Wow thanks for the great info guys!
Directed at Datrue:
Is there any word on HTC coming out with a different battery that isnt the "extended" one
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Not sure what you are asking here... The HTC battery that comes with the dream is 1150mah and is included with the device. The extended battery which is not made by by HTC is 2600mah, almost double the capacity of what HTC offers. If you care more about battery life then style, go for the extended battery.
Doesn't look like much dev work on this phone and what I have found seems to be mostly for sprint...is there much difference between the versions for sprint and virgin mobile?
Looking into a cheaper plan, but would like to keep a smartphone so VM looks perfect, but reviews I have seen look pretty sad for this phone.
I want to say I wouldn't really recommend this phone. It certainly doesn't live up to its expectations and specifications. I've ranted pretty hard about this phone, but after rooting and many, many tries of installing and reinstalling ROMs I've finally got it settled down and it's not that bad.
To answer your question, and I'm assuming you're talking about rooting difference, there's a pretty big difference. You must find a VM ROM. Although they are the same phone, a Sprint ROM will not work on a VM phone. However, most devs at sdx-developers make dual versions so you're mostly ok. Other than that the only difference is Sprint adds its bloatware and VM adds its bloatware.
vm phone
I just moved to virgin mobile from tmobile. as far as cost and functionalitly the intercept on virgin mobile is on par with my g1 (which i loved rooted with cm6). I am now running ubundroid for virgin mobile , works great with no problems.
cant beat virgin mobiles price .
I may consider getting this device.
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Actually, there have been people who have accidentally flashed the sprint df27 tar to their virgin mobile phone and have been fine. You can even get the sprint froyo update running on a vm phone, but it'll break missed call notifications and mms.
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Actually, there have been people who have accidentally flashed the sprint df27 tar to their virgin mobile phone and have been fine. You can even get the sprint froyo update running on a vm phone, but it'll break missed call notifications and mms.
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Hm, I'd figure it wouldn't boot. Interesting, though.
So, those of you that have been able to root the VM Intercept; Is it worth it? I am looking to be able to apply Frodo (2.2) to my phone and have everything still function. I want to be able to make my phone install apps to SD instead of internal memory. I want to be able to make my phone faster.
Will this be possible with rooting and installing a new ROM? Can I revert back to the default ROM?
grabbed this phone. Best buy has it for $179. With a $25 a month unlimited data and text messaging plus 300 minutes, it's a no-brainer. Hell, it's cheaper than a cheapo data /text plan alone on verizon.
So what's the consensus on this phone?
Can it be flashed from Sprint to Virgin Mobile? I'm looking to pick one up to use really soon and can't find any VM ones cheap.
If this phone is able to be flashed, what are the chances of other non VM phones being able to be used on the VM network? From my searching so far it's been a definitive no on that. Is there really no hope?
Virgin will not allow non Virgin branded devices on thier network. Flashing a Sprint phone will not work. Sorry
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Thanks for the definitive reply. How do you like it so far? Phone and service. Are you satisfied or do you still feel like a better phone would improve the experience?
Virgin Mobile is very awesome for sure. I used them a lot during the past.
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I switched over from Sprint to cut what I deemed unnecessary costs since we have an 8 month old and a new car payment now.
Saving the $60 bucks a month that I am definitely helps out.
With Sprint, I had the htc Hero and the 450 minute/unlimited data & text plan.
I can honestly say that the Samsung Intercept, at least IMO, is a MUCH better phone than the Hero. A much better processor and I love the slide out keyboard.
With my Hero, I had problems running some apps, mainly Angry Birds... It was nearly unplayable with that phone.
However, on the Intercept it runs like a charm.
I thought I would kind of regret my switch, but I actually couldn't be more happier. I still have all the benefits of having an Android phone + unlimited text and data for 1/3rd of the price that I was paying Sprint.
Another thing I love is that the only tax you pay on your bill is sales tax.
Ive been using the VM intercept since it came out and really like the service, for the price it can't be beat. Im still running stock, but with temp root via z4root and barnacle wifi this phone is fantastic. It works perfectly with my g-tablet running TnT Lite 2.4.0.
Now if they would just hurry up and release the VM froyo update....
Well... Coming from the Hero development threads, I have a strong background on Android in general and the way it works with different providers.
I'll give you all a heads up on the difference.
It's in the apns-conf file and voicemail-conf file that is tucked inside the etc folder.
apns-conf: Carrier specific settings.
voicemail-conf: voicemail settings (sometimes not needed either way).
if you just push the right apns-conf and voicemail-conf files to the phone if your on the wrong carrier and reboot, everything should be right unless your on a rom that uses visual voice mail when your carrier doesn't support it. I never did figure out what the exact differences between those are.
You can even double up on settings between those files (i.e. add both carrier's settings) to make the rom dynamic. I will be doing some rooting/devving for some friends who have this phone pretty soon, and if I decide to bust out a custom rom for you guys I'll keep you posted.
Played a few good hour on it:
the CPU is faster 800mhz than 5xx than G1, I switch from my froyo yoshi G1 to Intercept, samething Facny widget Launcher Pro Calander is all I need.
First 10hr using experience was ok....just OK not great, is like 5 or 6 out of 10.
But, I will stay at this machine instead LG optimus V.
PRO:
1) monthly price: $25 unbeatable, in fact this is cornerstone that just set for other carrier, since VM/Boost/Sprint are all sprint, they will eventually helping bring other carrier price down. Best service I ever have is VERIZON, NEVER drop call, worst was AT&T+cingular.
2)Intercept have great hardware, but not good resolution, is like glass screen (like BB stome but harder and clear)which is great+ for dirty finger like me, glass resist oil better, only down side is low resolution and color contrast is not as good as other phone.
3)the fast CPU but low memory, what this combo tell you? OVERCLOCK THIS MFKER LIKE NEVER BEFORE! is base on 800mhz, I think going 900mhz is not as hard as LG optimus going from 600 to 1000, I have not test out LG yet but as soon as I send in my broken intercept (it will ;P) and claim the LG to test out, then we can see what is going on from there.
1GHZ low end phone....I can hear the laugh from my feet
CON:
1)phone selection sux, since VM prevent flash or you want to do those hassle and live with not complete phone go ahead, as I suffer from my tether enable G1 with T-mobile Sidekick prepaid and BT the hell out of it, but when talk is with 15c a minute, OUCH!
2)the resolution resolution resolutionnnnnnn!
I think is comparable with Gameboy color (no kidding, I think Intercept resolution was the worst I see, glad it have ok screen size but I can live with it)
3)SOFTWARE SUX! 2.1 was not the problem, is that samsung always have weak software, like I said, HTC was pretty good on software engineering, in fact most of their apps are well engineered, but samsung......no, that is why is just hard to flash it on intercept, and sometime we risk too high to flash those device since samsung are the one that can brick like no others, at least in my case.
4)Funky and Kinky hardware QC, quality check check check, we used to have those KING OF THE XXX SERIAL, there will be one lazy QC personal on samsung just few quarter before suicide/fired and it will cause such unstable quality when they on the market, check moment for example, how is those crazy things happen? and sometime their quality are so unstable that cause people piss off samsung phone forever.
overall, I still give this phone a go, because I have not get a FC on 10hr play.
I give it 6.7 out of 10, and give my G1 100 out of 10, it was indeed a beast.
BTW I notice something on intercept, it can play a lot video/game SMOOTHER than some high end phone did, I was watching FULL EPISODE of cowboy bepop and Ghost In The Shell, OMG THE QUALITY WAS LIKE HD but in smaller screen.
My G1 can't even do that.
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So, those of you that have been able to root the VM Intercept; Is it worth it? I am looking to be able to apply Frodo (2.2) to my phone and have everything still function. I want to be able to make my phone install apps to SD instead of internal memory. I want to be able to make my phone faster.
Will this be possible with rooting and installing a new ROM? Can I revert back to the default ROM?
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2.2 is coming to VM Intercept in about a month, that'll make a lot of apps run faster, it'll make root easier, you'll be able to tether easier, and you should be able to move apps to SD then.
Hey,
My iPhone has died so I am looking to buy cheap phone whilst I wait for decent WP7 phone to come out this year.
I was wondering how well does Windows 7 work on HD2? Any lag? Do major features like GPS, Bluetooth, Wifi, etc work properly? Finally, any of you guys use Windows Phone 7 as your day to day OS?
I couldn't find these answers so I apologise if these have been asked recently.
Thanks.
Basically, everything works. Camera lighting is off, sound is a too loud (at 2/30 sounds like its at 25/30). Very snappy, looks good on the HD2.
Pretty tempted myself especially since I just read about dual booting WP7 and Android (Froyo presumably). It's the only phone to allow that, right?
Price is still pretty high though, $480 at Amazon and eBay is a bit of a maze on finding a nice one.
I use it full time for a few week now (DFT rom) and I am real happy. Everything works well, and looks great.
Got all the features working (activation, live, marketplace, GPS, Navigon, Custum ringtones, etc.). Things already said that need to be fixed are: battery leak, 3G data leak, volume, camera (no focus, green with flash).
But above all: I will NEVER go back to wm6.5 (if I don't need to). I LOVE IT ! Respect to DFT.
My HD2 works with WP7 like its a native WP7-Phone.
You can fix the battery issue by installing 2.12 Radio ROM (3G slower)
And you can fix 3G Connection by installing 2.15 Radio ROM (Battery weaker)
Just as you need more, you can choose.
Volume is maybe a little bit high, but i like it. Now at least i can hear my phone when it rings ^^. You can use the Autofocus by changing in video mode, autofocus is sharpening picture, change back to photo mode and take the picture. You can get the green colour away by downloading HTC Photo Optimizer from the Market (free) and choose the option which looks best.
WP7 is great <3
WP7 on HD2 has been a successful "try before you buy" for me. Even if it gets wanked after the next update I will probably go with a "real" HD7. The potential for this OS is awesome. I think MS (and the devs) have only scratched the surface.
I just went to compare an HD7 with my Leo70 - and even sales people were stunned. It feels the same, it looks the same, speed is same... well, no wonder, hardware-wise, they are on par, aren´t they?
Since there is no other device comparable to the multi-OS capable HD2, I will keep that device at least for another season... means, I will be using it at least until the successors of HD7/Omnia 7 will be launched AND successful on the market. I won´t buy the first series though, as I did with HD2, to avoid the mass field test phase of HTC and Microsoft...
loving it too.... and actually thinking of getting the real hd7
only thing that i dont really love.. is the integration of social networks and contacts in the same place...oh oops and the non ability to use the myphone service...sucks
You can turn off social contacts in your phonebook by turning it off in Settings, Applications (swipe left) > Contacts ^^
And the HD2 and HD7 are actually the same, only little diiferences, but nothing that matters really... And when I'm getting enough of WP7 I can change back to another OS whenever I want (but I think i will stick with WP7 ^^)
I am loving WP 7. I will alos upgrade if they disable it after the next upgrade. It works wonderfully on the HD2. Here's praying Microsoft will relent to the pressure and give us an official upgrade to our beloved HD2. (I know I'm dreaming)
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I will alos upgrade if they disable it after the next upgrade.
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Don't encourage them. Some of us don't have the money to throw at phones every year
That does it, WP7+Android 2.2, I am now on a quest to find a used HD2! If anyone has tips ;-)
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That does it, WP7+Android 2.2, I am now on a quest to find a used HD2! If anyone has tips ;-)
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There are so many people that think the HD2 is 2 years old and they have to buy a new one. So many people who don't even know what they can get out of their HD2. That's your chance. Look in eBay or other sites where people can sell their used phones. I also bought a used HD2 1 month before for 180€ and that price is more than fair
Yes that's a good price, hope I'll find one for that price too! Will check eBay...
Try the Marketplace you can always find someone selling a htc hd2 there, i'd make sure you get a tmobile htc hd2, not the Euro verision as it runs low on memory.
Good idea, are there any 3G bandwidth issues with the HD2 though, T-Mobile means 1700 and 2100 I think, AT&T is 850 or 1900 and Europe is 1900 or 2100.
They are giving them away frr for new users.
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/phones/Default.aspx?uid=Shop_1_1
Thanks, can't go for a two-year contract, but $360 may not be too bad for refurbished device...except I can't seem to find it without a plan, hum...
It does have UMTS 2100Mhz, so that's good for Europe, also UMTS : AWS, not sure what that is.
I went back to wm 6.5
Wp7 is great but it ****ed up alot...
couldn't watch more than any video, be it netflix or youtube for more than 5 minutes...
phone froze if i used games for more than 7 minutes...
the back got really hot
whats really annoying is during boot up it would restarts like 5 times after gogogo screen....but it never reached the dft logo...when it reached the dft logo, it meant it would boot, but it still kept crashing
WP7 on HD2 is amazing, a real THANX to DFT Team,they always do good work.
i use WP7 for daily usage and it works well, Just need to improve some things that will come with next update (i hope). Im glade of this new os.
I am getting my T-Mobile Tab on Friday and have a few questions. Based on what I have read, my desire for flexibility, oc ability, and conservative battery use when needed are met pretty good if I use the Overcome rom and kernel.
I am not married to that idea, but it looks good. One of the many tipping points for me when choosing the Tab over the Streak 7 was the Samsung customized calendar app and the ability to make calls on the Tab with the rotohammer modem switcher.
So, my questions are -
1) Is it possible yet, in any rom, or by some method, to make voice calls on a T-Mobile Tab and keep the 3G data capability? I dont care if I can surf and talk at the same time, but do I have to look forward to calls and EDGE or no calls and 3G?
2) What service plan do I need to be sure I have if the answer is yes I can now have 3g and voice calls without a reboot
3) If I can only have 3g or voice, where should I look for tweaks to make the Tab reboot as fast as possible?
4) Does the Overcome rom specifically, or any rom, keep the customized Samsung apps, especially the calendar?
5) What is the best way to do a test of measurable battery life? Some way to keep the display on while streaming a movie or something, until the device shuts off on a low bat? I want to measure the actual battery life under the same conditions with the stock rom and some custom roms. This summer I will be camping and may not have charging capability when the Tab needs it, so I'd like to know positively that the changes I make are really improving battery life in measurable ways, not just subjective guesses.
Thanks
Keith
P.S. I'm not a dev, but nowhere near a n00b either. My current device is a Droid A855 with Simply Stunning 5.1, and the only reason I haven't flashed on something else in the last 2 weeks is because I knew this Tab was gonna go thru, so I have focused on learning what to do to make the Tab a reasonable replacement for my tablet PC, an IBM Thinkpad x41T running Lubuntu 10.10. Just so whoever responds knows, I'm just new to the Tab, and not opposed to gutting an OS and replacing it with another one
1) In regards to this question, I believe CDMA version by Sprint has some tweaks done to it. How good is it and if you have to do switch roo on it I am not too sure....I suggest research CDMA version in XDA forum
2) None that I am aware of as I am looking for the same. However, I have a international version which supports both CDMA and GSM network and I am wondering if I can use a prepaid sim and then sign up with Sprint or Verizon on their data plan...dont have answer to this yet personally
Regards
I'm wanting to try and get the HTC Trophy, and wanted to get some thoughts from you guys. I apologize if this is already started, but I couldn't find it... Anyway:
-Is Google lacking from WP7?
As in, can I integrate my Google Account with WP7 as in use my gmail for Email, Google Music as media store, etc... What would the limits of that be?
-Is the HTC Trophy a good/reliable device?
I played with one at the Verizon store and I loved it, but I never used it beyond tinkering around to check it out. Does the phone keep a consistent service and good network speeds? Should I wait for the next WP7 device to come to Verizon?
-Camera?
I use my x2 as a personal camera, It has 8 MP and can record 720p video. That sounds good, but truth be told, the Video recorder SUX and the only way to get 720p is to put CM7 on it(and we just got that ROM like in January; 8 months after the release of the x2) and it is still a little buggy. The Camera however is pretty nice, I like it a lot anyway.... How does the Trophy Perform in the Camera area?
-Market Apps?
Is there a decent amount of games and market apps available for WP7? All that would really matter to me is a few key apps that I use on a regular basis; one of which is Evernote. I use this as my lyric notebook for my music that I write for when I'm on the road or away from a notepad, I can use my phone to jot down a few lines of a song or try to complete a song when I get spare time. YouTube.. I think I saw this on the phone by default but can't quite remember. And just a good assortment of games. Also, is the paid/free apps a good combination and not ridiculous prices? Android offers a great combination of free and paid, on the iPhone, the only thing I see that is decent is like 4+ dollars so just wondering on what the users feel about the market?
-Rooting?
Is the development pretty spiffy with the HTC Trophy? Android offers Rooting and I see something like HSPC or w/e for WP7. What exactly is this and what would the benefits be if I tried to do this?
-Overall opinions?
For those that came from Android can you let me know what the biggest 'let-go' you had to take? and just an overall opinion of your satisfaction with WP7.
I thank anyone that would answer these. If anyone knows of someone that would want to sell the HTC Trophy or trade for a Droid x2, would you please PM me or post on here. I'm a contributor for the Droid x2 and many users can vouch for me in the Droid x2 area of XDA. My ROM is headlined on DroidForums.net in their forum area for the x2 and it is also here on XDA(which is where it is mainly supported).
Again, Thank you for your time,
Peperm1nt
Peperm1nt said:
-Is Google lacking from WP7?
As in, can I integrate my Google Account with WP7 as in use my gmail for Email, Google Music as media store, etc... What would the limits of that be?
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Google Account works fine. You can use it to sync your calender, contacts, email, etc. Google Music and such... still no support as far as I know, its not a service I use.
User snickler is working on an app for Google Music called "CloudMuzik." I don't know anything about it, but.. well.. its there.
I take normal mp3's and load up my phone with music via Zune sync, and that works just great for me. The Last.fm app rocks imo... I love using that to stream music.
Peperm1nt said:
-Is the HTC Trophy a good/reliable device?
I played with one at the Verizon store and I loved it, but I never used it beyond tinkering around to check it out. Does the phone keep a consistent service and good network speeds? Should I wait for the next WP7 device to come to Verizon?
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The HTC Trophy is much better with reception and speed then my last two phones, the HTC Eris (Android) and Touch Pro2(WM6.5). I do still feel that the network speed is being held back by something, but I have yet to test it right next to a VZW tower to see if its simply my imagination.
When I was using the shipping radio (that came with NoDo), the phone had issues staying in 3G mode and switching from 1X to 3G was really slow and iffy, but this is resolved with Mango v1+ radios installed.
However, due to my situation of using my phone as my primary internet connection, it sits in the window sill whenever I am at home. To improve reception in situations like that, I have a beast of a heavy duty case on my Trophy (that and since the phone has a tenancy to fall off my window sill with my dogs go crazy...). This makes a huge difference in my reception.
Peperm1nt said:
-Camera?
I use my x2 as a personal camera, It has 8 MP and can record 720p video. That sounds good, but truth be told, the Video recorder SUX and the only way to get 720p is to put CM7 on it(and we just got that ROM like in January; 8 months after the release of the x2) and it is still a little buggy. The Camera however is pretty nice, I like it a lot anyway.... How does the Trophy Perform in the Camera area?
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I think the camera is great for still shots, but keeping it clean is key. The 720p video recording leaves much to be desired, as it seems speed is much slower then the 640x480 mode.
Peperm1nt said:
-Market Apps?
Is there a decent amount of games and market apps available for WP7? All that would really matter to me is a few key apps that I use on a regular basis; one of which is Evernote. I use this as my lyric notebook for my music that I write for when I'm on the road or away from a notepad, I can use my phone to jot down a few lines of a song or try to complete a song when I get spare time. YouTube.. I think I saw this on the phone by default but can't quite remember. And just a good assortment of games. Also, is the paid/free apps a good combination and not ridiculous prices? Android offers a great combination of free and paid, on the iPhone, the only thing I see that is decent is like 4+ dollars so just wondering on what the users feel about the market?
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Evernote appears to be available for the phone, and is rated currently at 3.5 stars. I think that most apps are decently priced. The most I have paid for an app is $9.99 (Natural Japanese), but for what the app does, its still a fantastic value. I do think that the games market is fairly mature now. You can still get classic games like Angry Birds (that they even give XBL points if your into that!), with new games/apps launching every day.
There is also the "Bazarr" app store for full unlocked phones that has awesome stuff like Opera for WM6.5 ported to work on WP7.
Peperm1nt said:
-Rooting?
Is the development pretty spiffy with the HTC Trophy? Android offers Rooting and I see something like HSPC or w/e for WP7. What exactly is this and what would the benefits be if I tried to do this?
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"Unlocking" this phone by installing HSPL is a straight forward process (I wrote a guide to doing it on the Verizon Trophy), and it is WELL worth doing. HSPL allows flashing of 3rd party roms to the phone, but the Verizon Trophy (and Sprint Arrive) were only made available on 2-15-2012, so no public roms have hit for the Verizon Trophy yet. You can private message mwang to test DFT Freedom for Verizon Trophy... it's worth it.
Peperm1nt said:
-Overall opinions?
For those that came from Android can you let me know what the biggest 'let-go' you had to take? and just an overall opinion of your satisfaction with WP7.
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When I first moved to Android, the biggest let go was Internet tethering. Using the stock Verizon rom, tethering is not enabled.
However, with the advent of HSPL, DFT Freedom for Verizon Trophy includes Internet Sharing, so the phone can be used as a 5 device hot spot.. and it is awesome. Compared to using my Eris as a hotspot, its just sweet. The rooted free tether on Android is crap compared to Mango's built in support, as NAT support is completely supported (so my XBox 360 logs on and works perfect vs not working at all).
The other big draw back for me was no Swype. I wouldn't mind it so much if Verizon would of gotten the HTC Arrive (GoldC) instead of the Trophy (SparkW), but the advantage of the Trophy is that it is a world phone, so you can still put a GSM Sim card in and roll with that later if you wanted to switch carriers or travel.
Thanks for the reply. I really want to get this phone, but no one is messaging me back for trades or buys. Do you know anyone?
Btw, I play xbox all the time, so the xbl integration has me too.
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Unfortunately no, I know no one that wants to trade. I know I have mine, and I am keeping it close. lol
Lol its fine,i get paid monday, probable going to get one on ebay.
Forgot to ask this in the op:
Battery Life:
I use my x2 throughout the day moderately...one full charge gives me 8 to 15 hours of battery life. I disconnect the auto sync and try my best to increase battery life, but the display DRAINS the life horribly...like 1 hour of display will put the phone to 10 % or lower. What are the thoughts on that?
Development:
I develop for android. What is the developm went like on wp7?
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The Trophy produces similar battery results for me, but I charge it everyday and I live in a fringe region. I turned on Mango's battery savor feature when the power is low, but I haven't really been able to use it yet.
Battery life on the Trophy is okay... You should be able to make it through the day no problems with moderate usage. If you're on the edge or frequently go out of service the phone will drain very quickly. On the flip side there are days where I rarely use the phone, and with the stock battery it will go almost 3 days with no usage.
One thing that I found out is that the EVO / ERIS battery is almost the same... It fits in the phone and the phone will use it, but the back cover won't snap on correctly. If you were looking for a larger battery the first thing you'll need is an extended battery cover. Also, the snaps for the regular trophy and Verizon are slightly different which makes it even harder to find the cover. I think you can just break a few of them off and it will fit.
The camera is okay but it's definitely nothing special. If you have good light and still shots it will produce a decent image. It's about on par with the D2 which I think is slightly worse than the X2.
The one thing that I'm kind of missing is a few networks apps. There really isn't a good app to do things like ping, wifi scanning, or speed tests. Since there is no flash you can't just load up speedtest.net in the browser.
For music I would say that using Zune works fairly well. It loads the songs very quickly over wifi, and if you had it setup to sync automatically you should be able to just put songs into the folder and the phone will download them whenever you're at home.
Youtube is not officially supported but at one time there was an HTC Youtube app but I think they had to pull it from the market. It looks like there is an app called youtube pro that gets good reviews and is free. The nice thing about the marketplace is that there are a lot of decent free games and apps like there is on android, but there are also trials of paid apps so you can try it before you decide to purchase.
My overall satisfaction with the phone is pretty high. It's definitely a step up from a D2. Just using it for simple tasks it performs a lot better although there are still some gotchas that you might have to work around. (If you use skydrive putting documents on the phone is easy, if you don't want to use skydrive then it becomes a lot harder)
That's odd.. my Eris and Touch Pro2 batteries are identical in size and fit... but neither are hi-capacity.
Thanks guys.. ordering one for Monday hopefully unless I can get one for trade on here
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Found a trophy!! Lol hopefully be deving here soon.
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Awesome. I hope it works well for you. Poke around the dev forum for guides on HSPL for SparkW...
I will soon be writing a guide to keeping the newest (Mango V2) radio while still retaining HSPL. I will probably be adding it to my radio guide sometime today/this weekend. I need to upload some files/roms that will be needed to make it work.
Also, a word of warning, do NOT install any updates via Zune!!! I recently discovered when performing the Zune upgrades that the Mango V2 drivers might disable the availability to flash roms the normal way, and force using the GoldCard method (which I will add to my HSPL guide soon enough).
Thanks for the heads up.
In android we can sbf to fix bootloops and make our phone stock for warranties and such. Also to get on specific kernels or android versions. How exactly does wp7 do this or is there an option? Also HTC has unlocked bootloaders in android. Is it the same here... most of this will probably get answered when I get the phone. Just wanting to get a start in the right direction.. again, thank you for the help.
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My HSPL guide covers returning to stock at the end. It involves loading the bootloader and running DFT's unlocker tool, but flashing the OSPL (Original SPL). You then flash the factory rom as I have outlined.
Peperm1nt said:
Thanks for the heads up.
In android we can sbf to fix bootloops and make our phone stock for warranties and such. Also to get on specific kernels or android versions. How exactly does wp7 do this or is there an option? Also HTC has unlocked bootloaders in android. Is it the same here... most of this will probably get answered when I get the phone. Just wanting to get a start in the right direction.. again, thank you for the help.
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hey peperm1nt, at Microsoft Stores, they are letting you trade in any smartphone, android, iphone, blackberry, etc towards a free, new in box, no contract WP7. you can choose from the trophy, titan, focus, radar or nokia 710 until Mar 29. link (http://slickdeals.net/f/4120241-Swa...-contract-Microsoft-Store-B-M-Only-thru-3-29?)
Thanks, there aren't any microsoft stores in my area, but I got the Trophy the past week.
Thanks tho for the info
BTW, I wish I had got this phone instead of my x2!!! like seriously, I love this phone. Only problem is the graphix of games aren't as smooth as my x2, but i guess thats the difference between nVidea & qualcomm. But other than that, this phone rox!!! UI is so smooth and the Facebook integration is nice. I'm looking into the whole modding aspect of this, still haven't got the grasp of 'rooting' this phone and making buckups to later restore if something goes wrong, my ultimate question is this:
In android you can 'sbf'(flash the phone with stock firmware). Is that a possiblity on here?
I read the restore thread; is that the equivilent to what I'm looking for?
Yes, in the HSPL thread, restoring to stock is the equivalent. You replace the moded SPL (HSPL) with the OSPL (or original SPL), and then flash a stock rom.
As for backup, I have yet to find a backup method that works after flashing a different rom, or even flashing back to a rom that I made the backup on. I'm not sure if this is an issue with CDMA Trophy or not.... perhaps I should start a thread on this since you brought it up (yes... I think I will do that now). lol
I'll look into the setup once I get the 'guts' to HSPL'ing my device, and break into the file structure. Once, I do that, I'll look at making a script or something to auto install like android does with the system folder, if this is possible or w/e.
I'm sorry for bringing android into this, But I'm not good with terminology on the WP Platform yet, but I do this to compare and show you what I'm talking about if that makes since.
Well, your Windows Live login that you used will have a record of your apps you installed, much like your Google login for the Play Store. Your contacts are on whichever account you choose, I keep mine on my Gmail account still, since I switch between my Trophy and other Android device. I also have an unlocked HD7 that I use for travel.
Just like when you were first learning to root Android, you followed the guides step by step. As long as you do the same here, you will be fine. DFT has done some awesome work, and WP7 would prolly not be where it is without them.
If you have your Trophy activated, you can use it as a hotspot, but only with HSPL and a custom rom. I never bothered doing it with my Trophy, but it's definitely an incredible thing to have, especially if you have any wifi devices you carry around.
Its great to see the development for the Trophy taking place, I had one last year but moved onto another OS/Device. Considering a return to the Trophy again and will read a bit more into the custom ROM's.