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Hey guys, like i said in in the title (and having been on xda for a while) I hate myself for posting a "should i buy" thread, but i think i must have missed something.
As far as i see it the vega has pretty much the same spec as tablets double its price (thinking xoom / eee transforma) and yet the only difference i can see is the shipped android version and 1.2ghs processor vs 1.0ghz in the vega.
I have a HD2 and am happy flashing and running custom roms (running Android on my HD2) so as far as I see it i can get honeycomb flashed in the not too distant future when the boys finish the ROM build and just overclock to 1.4ghz and I am away.
And here in lies my question really, is the touchscreen nice to use? Whats the viewing angle like? HDMI out actually any good in the real world? Anyone use the tablet for work and not just media?
I would like to be able to use an openoffice / MS application on my tablet and if i could connect it up to projectors/tvs via hdmi for presentations and media that would be a real bonus - but only if it actually looks decent and works well.
Thanks for the time taken to read this, I am serious about buying but dont want to waste cash on the vega if people think the eee transforma would be more suitable.
Thanks;
Andy
is the touchscreen nice to use?
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Yes
Whats the viewing angle like?
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Not enough
HDMI out actually any good in the real world?
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Yes, it's good
I would like to be able to use an openoffice / MS application on my tablet and if i could connect it up to projectors/tvs via hdmi for presentations and media that would be a real bonus - but only if it actually looks decent and works well.
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There is no OO (or LibreOffice or MS office) at all/ There is Google Docs and Pixel Office
Thanks for such a quick reply. Google docs is fine i think but does it work offline on the tablet ok? Whats pixcel office like?
Battery life about as advertised (8hours)
Sorry for rippling questions in, i guess im just trying to work out what i would get extra for over twice the cash in a xoom / eee.
The key difference in price seems to be tied to screen quality and what the big names think they can get away with charging. Clearly the Motorola has a much better screen display than the Vega. However, for the price, the Vega is great for trying things out. There are a number of different user ROM's available and you can see how to push the technology without worrying about messing up your 'expensive' tablet. Also the Vega is UNBRICKABLE.
I use QuickOffice HD on the Vega and find it able to cope with MS Office 2010 Docs and Spreadsheets with no major issues.
I usee quickoffice works a treat also corvus and newbe5 have created a honeycomb port which is still in progress but something to look towards to if you buy one
Thanks for the answers guys. Im actually in a position to buy one vat free at the moment so with the latest dixons price thats £160 for a 10in tablet. Im kind of finding it hard to tell myself the xoom screen would be worth the extra £300 but you guys have the advent what do you think?
Also, whats the max internal storage i can get 16gb microsd? Will USB thumb drives autmount when inserted?
And can you charge the advent via usb?
(I should say im out of the uk at the moment hence why i cant see the advent but can get vat free - gives with one hand..)
Thanks
I have an old-batch Vega, with a worse screen, and I'm not unhappy with it (it can be testy, but it works). The new batch has better screens, more responsive, so the main qualm against the device is partially deflected. For 160 punds you cannot go wrong: it's a super-budget price for a quite capable tablet. Right now there are new smartphones which are not up to the horsepower of an Advent Vega. And if you overclock it... oh boy. 1,4 Ghz at your service. Believe me, the Advent Vega is a steal.
I am running with a 32GB Micro SDHC which I think is the max it can take. You need to get the system into USB Host mode, which needs some changes either to the stock rom, or use one of the very good alternate roms, if you want to plug a USB Stick onto it, but you shouldn't have the need.
I don't think the Xoom is worth the extra at the moment while I am still assessing whether the tablet is an indispensable device for daily use. I do use the Vega daily though and find the screen fine if a little tight on brightness and viewing angle.
There is an over-clock kernel available here now that also gets the Vega to out-perform the Xoom.
32gb would be perfect - and im pretty much mind made up.
Custom ROM
32GB Micro
Overclock to 1.2 as a starter for 10
Android 3 when the boys get round to finishing it.
Thanks for all of your help / comments
I´m sorry to borrow your topic but I´m also considering buying this device (or POV Mobii since they pretty much share the same hardware) and no doubt that all this replies help make me rest assured that this is the best low budget tablet around, however I just cannot find a way to order this to Portugal.
I tried Amazon (only shows POV Mobii and for 280 pounds (!) which makes me feel like i´m being robbed) Ebay and other known on-line shops to no success.
Can anyone tell me where can I order this device (and identical ones as told before) on-line within EU? The ones I come across with at Ebay are from UK and none of them ship to Portugal, which is a shame.
Although I have the possibility I refuse to pay 500€+ for a device that otherwise would cost half if there was none of this tablet hype thingy messing with the markets (Shame on you Mr. Jobs).
Any help is appreciated guys.
Thank you,
Mix
Hi Badmix.
You can try to order the PoV Mobii Tegra from Amazon.de .. I don't know about the shipping to Portugal, but the Price in DE is 280€. Just try it if the price is ok for you
best regards
£160 !?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
JUST BUY it... just buy it now... don't waste the chance!!!
It's an absolutely steal!!!
32Gb - no problem (I have 16gb and don't use it all)
overclock? - Corvus 1.5Ghz done.
USB drive, mouse n keyboard? - custom kernel (needs reboot) or use the dock station (as I do)
BadMix said:
I´m sorry to borrow your topic but I´m also considering buying this device (or POV Mobii since they pretty much share the same hardware) and no doubt that all this replies help make me rest assured that this is the best low budget tablet around, however I just cannot find a way to order this to Portugal.
I tried Amazon (only shows POV Mobii and for 280 pounds (!) which makes me feel like i´m being robbed) Ebay and other known on-line shops to no success.
Can anyone tell me where can I order this device (and identical ones as told before) on-line within EU? The ones I come across with at Ebay are from UK and none of them ship to Portugal, which is a shame.
Although I have the possibility I refuse to pay 500€+ for a device that otherwise would cost half if there was none of this tablet hype thingy messing with the markets (Shame on you Mr. Jobs).
Any help is appreciated guys.
Thank you,
Mix
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If you are still unclear, Advent are a firm under the Currys/PCWorld brand and only operate in the UK.
If you can find someone who is willing to buy for you (for a 'fee' maybe), then that is prob the best way to go.
Hope this helps.
Thank you for the helpful replies.
I just ordered from a German shop the POV Mobii Tegra for 236£ (270€) and I am pretty sure that I could not have done a better deal for the amount of money i was willing to spend.
Next step: buying a decent case to give my new investment the biggest life spawn possible.
Cheers guys once again.
Mix
Anyone know where to get this less then £200 in the UK
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Ebay have a fair few if you want nearly new.
Other than that dixons group have the monopoly on this item sadly.
Okay thanks, another question that is keeping me from buying this is that I'm wondering whether the Vega has multitouch problems like the desire and nexus one, also has anyone played games like Nova and how does it run and is it playable with the multitouch.
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I have an old-batch Vega, with a worse screen
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Is there a way to tell whether a Vega is of the old or the new batch with the nicer screen?
Asking because there is a used one that I am considering.
Thank you!
Guys, newest sandisk 64gb microSDXC will fit Defy?
http://www.sandisk.com/products/mobile1-memory-products/sandisk-ultra-microsdxc-card
It will fit in nicely becuse it is the same size as the microSDHC.
It doesnt work out of box ;you have to format it in the phone..then you' ll get 59 GB of free space.
No, i dont have it but i have read about it and it works in htc,samsung..
According to specs, memory is upgrade-able only to 32gb.
Will a 64gb card work?
I think you should take the risk and test it yourself
So does it work? That´s a very nice sd card
the defy supports 32gb sd official. 64 gb not supported. I think for any phone 16gb is stable for space and speed. how do they fill up 32gb?!
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the defy supports 32gb sd official. 64 gb not supported. I think for any phone 16gb is stable for space and speed. how do they fill up 32gb?!
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http://androidcommunity.com/sandisk...working-on-multiple-android-devices-20110927/
There are also reports that they are working on many older devices for those wondering. Some include the EVO 4G, original Galaxy S, and even the HTC Desire Z (aka T-Mobile G2). With both old and new, smartphones and tablets being able to take advantage of the 64GB SD cards this is a good sign many more will have the same fate. We can only assume manufacturers didn’t state SDXC support because none were out on the market at time of launch, or maybe there are other reasons yet unknown.
At first insert the device may say corrupt or error, just reformat your 64GB card inside the Android phone or tablet and you’re good to go. While many are currently working, this doesn’t mean they have full support. The chance of the cards failing, getting errors, and possibly losing all your stored data is still a possibility so use at your own risk for now. Hopefully we see more 64GB SDXC cards soon and at lower prices because $219 is a bit steep for me. — Thanks Murray!
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SDXC cards use exfat file system. If defy doesnt support that then it probably wont work.
Ive seen reports of it being working on a lot of phones, so there's a chance it might work on defy, but the card needs to be formatted on pc first before using on phone and it wont work at full speed due to limitation on the old sdhc reader (sdxc reader is faster)
I'm asking to avoid risks ).
Why 64gb? Cause i have 32gb card and it have about 4gb left. Actually last few month i've forced to clean up card from time to time. Audiobooks, DVR, Navigation software, record lections on dictaphone... That stuff takes space but i've used not to worry about `if do i have avaliable space left` ). Also this card declares class 6, now i own Sandisk/32gb class 2, so it not just larger, it laso should be faster. Sometimes DVR+Navigation provides some lags, for example.
maybe the max is 32GB,class 10
you can buy but i thin you will see only 32gb space...
can defy uses class 10 sd card? i heard there is problem in taking picture with class 10 card...
read posts on XDA, yes it has a problem with 6 and 10 class
CM7 and miui can run fine class 10 cards now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1133548&highlight=class+10
SDXC on Defy?
It really works on Defy. I own one for a month now. Cost 80€/106$. Absolutely no problems after format. 59GB free. About 6MB/s write, 16MB/s read speed. Have fun.
Greater than 32Gb?
Biggest I've used is a 32Gb class 10. No problems at all.
Android police posted a review. Looks good.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...c-card-huge-capacity-meets-impressive-speeds/
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This is funny yet strange. Why you think an article on a website has more truth than a forum post of a member? Both are written by a single person. Both can be faked or real.
The guy on the website used a newer Tegra device so his article is irrelevant for Defy users. The SDXC in my Defy works flawlessly for weeks now with 20GB free space left.
Of course you can ignore this. I don't care. But if you need space buy the SDXC and have fun.
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This is funny yet strange. Why you think an article on a website has more truth than a forum post of a member? Both are written by a single person. Both can be faked or real.
The guy on the website used a newer Tegra device so his article is irrelevant for Defy users. The SDXC in my Defy works flawlessly for weeks now with 20GB free space left.
Of course you can ignore this. I don't care. But if you need space buy the SDXC and have fun.
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I wasn't doubting your experience with the card, I was just posting another source of info about it complete with benchmarks etc.
Glad you like the card.
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Looking to buy a Nexus 7 soon! I am deciding between 8gb and 16gb. If I watch a lot of video podcasts that currently occupy 4gb at one time is 16gb my option? Also I know if I root I can hook up devices via USB. How practical is this if I want this tablet to be the one I take everywhere with me?
Lastly, I have heard brief mentions of other 7" tablets coming soon/just came out that are better than the Nexus 7. All I found was gTab 7" 2 and all that had that rivaled Nexus 7 was for $250 you only get 8gb and a microSD. Is there some tablet that is better than the Nexus 7/even worth looking at that I'm missing?
Thanks.
Edit: Looks like I'm going with the 16gb for sure. The question that remains is whether any other tablets rival the Nexus 7 that are coming out soon that I missed in my research besides iPad mini and gTab 7" 2.
Search is you best friend.
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Looking to buy a Nexus 7 soon! I am deciding between 8gb and 16gb. If I watch a lot of video podcasts that currently occupy 4gb at one time is 16gb my option? Also I know if I root I can hook up devices via USB. How practical is this if I want this tablet to be the one I take everywhere with me?
Lastly, I have heard brief mentions of other 7" tablets coming soon/just came out that are better than the Nexus 7. All I found was gTab 7" 2 and all that had that rivaled Nexus 7 was for $250 you only get 8gb and a microSD. Is there some tablet that is better than the Nexus 7/even worth looking at that I'm missing?
Thanks.
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generally i say go for 16gb. you cant do much with just 8gb. even with the root trick to run usb on the go for storage, you still can only store apps on the internal storage. so if you have lots of games, you're gonna run out of space on 8gb.
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Please explain to me how search could have helped me. If you read my post all of my questions were posted along with what I had found online. I did a little searching on these boards, but didn't find anything particularly helpful that addressed my problem.
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Please explain to me how search could have helped me. If you read my post all of my questions were posted along with what I had found online. I did a little searching on these boards, but didn't find anything particularly helpful that addressed my problem.
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definitely go with the 16gb one. that has 13gb user available memory.
after some cwm backups, and some games and apps. you'll left about 10GB for your personal stuff such as pics, vids and songs.
i did research for other tablets as well before buying this. this is indeed the best choice.
the tab2 7 doesn even come close. forget about it. unless you want to use a 7 inch as your main phone. if not the nexus 7 really outclass it.
Has anyone managed to work out how to open the case on an ATIV. I would really like to upgrade the SSD from 64Gb to something that's actually usable for this machine. Any hints gratefully received. And yes I realise my warranty will be voided.
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I haven't seen it done but as an interim solution: large SD card? external hard disk?
And doesnt the smart PC pro have 256gb not 64. Its the ativ tab that had 64gb I thought.
Samsung XE700T1C-A01US
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I haven't seen it done but as an interim solution: large SD card? external hard disk?
And doesnt the smart PC pro have 256gb not 64. Its the ativ tab that had 64gb I thought.
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Mine has a 128gb with the pro.XE700T1C-A01US. just updated the OS to Win8 Pro via my technet key. I was surprised that it had standard win8 installed. also installed the Media center aid on.
Loving this Unit so Much.... Ebay has my Asus infinity now.. ... I could go on and on about it.. but I won't. To answer your question I did see a link from someone that opened it up. I will try and locate it. I was wondering the same thing and would like to put a 256 micro ssd.. think that is what you will need. Don't forget to remove all the bloatware from Samsung.. runs very fast now.
Cheers
It's the ATIV Smart PC Pro (which is a tablet) and it came with a 64Gb SSD. Long term, SD card or external HD are not the answer as I need a bigger system drive. I've found the link on opening the unit now:
http://forum.tabletpcreview.com/samsung/54457-ativ-700t-question-anyone-open-unit-yet.html
I've ordered a new 256Gb mSATA SSD from Crucial and will be upgrading shortly. Happy days as from my perspective this was the only short coming of this device.
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It's the ATIV Smart PC Pro (which is a tablet) and it came with a 64Gb SSD. Long term, SD card or external HD are not the answer as I need a bigger system drive. I've found the link on opening the unit now:
http://forum.tabletpcreview.com/samsung/54457-ativ-700t-question-anyone-open-unit-yet.html
I've ordered a new 256Gb mSATA SSD from Crucial and will be upgrading shortly. Happy days as from my perspective this was the only short coming of this device.
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How have you gotten on with the upgrade?
Hi,
At the moment I'm looking for a new tablet for me and my wife. I've made my pick (Tab S5e 128 GB), but my wife wants something lighter, as most she'll do on it is read or play HayDay.
She has her mind set on a Tab A, but there are several at the moment, 10.1, 10.5,...
Requirements for a wifi only tab A:
Lineage or other custom rom support
Snapdragon CPU
For the rest no requirements, but I thing a 64 Gb version is a tad more future proof. The Exynos CPU is a nice one, but hardly supported by custom rom builders. (I tried for the Tab S2, luckily @ripee and @tripLr took over)
Which one is which, is the 2019 version a better option then the older ones,... To many Tab A models. (at least the S series are numbered)
T_I said:
Hi,
At the moment I'm looking for a new tablet for me and my wife. I've made my pick (Tab S5e 128 GB), but my wife wants something lighter, as most she'll do on it is read or play HayDay.
She has her mind set on a Tab A, but there are several at the moment, 10.1, 10.5,...
Requirements for a wifi only tab A:
Lineage or other custom rom support
Snapdragon CPU
For the rest no requirements, but I thing a 64 Gb version is a tad more future proof. The Exynos CPU is a nice one, but hardly supported by custom rom builders. (I tried for the Tab S2, luckily @ripee and @tripLr took over)
Which one is which, is the 2019 version a better option then the older ones,... To many Tab A models. (at least the S series are numbered)
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Why would she possibly need 64gb for what you described? The SM-510 with 32gb is way more than enough to do what she wants. I have mine rooted with a custom Lineage 16 ROM and a 17 one is "in the works", just waiting for a few bugs to be solved. Yes, there may be more custom ROMs for Snapdragon SoCs, but that is just because they've been around longer. I also have a 2016 SM-t580 with an Exynos SoC and I have 6 different Android 10 ROMs on it and I don't have them all.
IMO, unless you are watching 4k movies or are an avid "gamer", there should be no reason to need more than 32gb of internal storage when you can always add a 256gb SD card. And, personally, I'd never use a 10" tablet for either of those activities
Added Note: I don't consider people who enjoy a pleasant time with Hay Day to be "avid gamers". That app works quite well on my old 2016, 16gb Tab A.
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Why would she possibly need 64gb for what you described? The SM-510 with 32gb is way more than enough to do what she wants. I have mine rooted with a custom Lineage 16 ROM and a 17 one is "in the works", just waiting for a few bugs to be solved. Yes, there may be more custom ROMs for Snapdragon SoCs, but that is just because they've been around longer. I also have a 2016 SM-t580 with an Exynos SoC and I have 6 different Android 10 ROMs on it and I don't have them all.
IMO, unless you are watching 4k movies or are an avid "gamer", there should be no reason to need more than 32gb of internal storage when you can always add a 256gb SD card. And, personally, I'd never use a 10" tablet for either of those activities
Added Note: I don't consider people who enjoy a pleasant time with Hay Day to be "avid gamers". That app works quite well on my old 2016, 16gb Tab A.
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Hi Lewmur,
Could you offer a quick comment on the recent SM-510 vs the 2016 SM-T 580? Love my 580, does most all of what I need well, but I'm thinking the RAM's too low at 2GB. Just started looking around and thought the 510 might be a better 'daily driver'. And, I think your advice to the OP was spot on.
Cheers! :highfive:
StevenRN
steven.rn said:
Hi Lewmur,
Could you offer a quick comment on the recent SM-510 vs the 2016 SM-T 580? Love my 580, does most all of what I need well, but I'm thinking the RAM's too low at 2GB. Just started looking around and thought the 510 might be a better 'daily driver'. And, I think your advice to the OP was spot on.
Cheers! :highfive:
StevenRN
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To be honest, I don't use either tablet to do anything that stretches their capability. The battery life on my 510 seems better, but then again, its is new and the 580 is three years old. The Antutu benchmark on the 510 is much better at 113745 as opposed to the 580 at 83259. Bottom line, if I had to pay retail for a 510 to upgrade from a 580, I wouldn't do it. I bought my two 510s for $80 and $50 including shipping. They were both in like new condition but with one catch. They are "Not for Sale" models with only 2gb and 16gb. The "Not for Sale" doesn't mean they are not legit. They both "registered" with Samsung without a problem. They just couldn't be sold "retail" and don't include a warranty.
edit: For an 80 yr old with shaky hands, the 510 does take a much better photo.