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[Q] your experience with at&t

Hello,
I'm in the process of deciding between the HTC Arrive on Sprint, and this phone, purchased unlocked and running on at&t. I plan on using it as my main phone, and for development.
I have been looking around for people's experiences with the Optimus 7 on at&t but haven't found much. I have never used an unlocked phone before, so I am not sure how easy the setup will be. Does 3G and MMS work for you? How will updates get installed?
I have been reading the posts on this forum, but I haven't read much about at&t yet.... I have no idea what I'm doing, haha.
Thank you very much for your help!

It works pretty well for me. The signal is a bit worse than with "native" AT&T devices because the radio ROM isn't customized for AT&T's network, but overall 3G/HSPA works well. I've never actually tried MMS, but I'm assuming if it doesn't work, you can use the MFG app to fix up your settings.
If you have an unlocked device, updates will come from Microsoft without having to be approved by AT&T, but you'll still get the AT&T exclusive apps in Marketplace because that functionality relies on your SIM card.
I still don't have NoDo, but apparently a lot of other people with this unlocked phone don't either, so that would probably be the main reason to go with the Arrive, as it comes with NoDo preinstalled.

Thank you Arktronic! Man, this makes my decision even harder now, I was just about to walk out the door and go to sprint. I really like having a physical keyboard and getting the phone *now* rather than having to wait a week for it to ship in. Haha, I have no patience...
Ahh man...
I'm still a bit worried about those updates....but I do plan on doing a ton of globe-trotting this year and next, and I don't want to pay for another phone to work overseas. Decisions!
Thanks again!

Keep in mind, only the LG E900H is optimized for North American networks. If you have an LG E900H (different from the more widely available E900), then you can simply go to the MFG app on the device, and set the network profile to AT&T, (with a couple of other changes, such as automatic WCDMA and ADC Enable, all of which can be done without any modifications, and very simple to do), and suddenly your device works like a native AT&T device. I have tried this on my LG E900H Telus branded Sim unlocked phone, and I tend to travel across the border a lot. If you have an AT&T sim in the phone, and you do all the above, you even get the AT&T splash screen...so completely AT&T-fied.

Man, I'm having a really hard time finding the E900h (what I can find costs >500 USD). Is that the phone that was given away to devs?
When you say 'optimized' you just mean that the setup is a bit easier? From what I understand, it seems like I should just be able to throw in an at&t sim and I should be good to go. Am I missing something?
I just want to make sure I can get 3G/MMS! (and not EDGE haha)
Thank you for your help!

I have a non-H and 3G works just fine.

E900H is available through Telus in Canada and I think some other carrier that starts with T in Mexico. And both versions will have the AT&T profile, and will work fine on AT&T.

Thanks a lot guys! I bit the bullet and just put in an order for it.... at 3am, haha. As much as I like the Arrive (and my Sprint service), I really fell in love with the Optimus 7 when I held a demo unit (that wasn't even working) when I was in Hong Kong. I hope this process goes smoothly... (and that we can get NoDo soon! Oh and I hope at&t service/reception doesn't suck as much as I'm afraid it will.
I've already written a crappy app, I can't wait to see how it works in the real world!

Cool, good luck!

Yeah I got it!!! Reception seems about on par with other at&t phones, perhaps a bit worse. Just installed the MFG app, set it up with the at&t_410_310 setting like it was mentioned elsewhere in this form, and bam it worked! I usually get decent reception on the HSPA network. Download speeds around 440k, which seems a bit slow? Dunno. Who cares! It's LEAGUES better than the crappy Samsung upstage i came from.

Don't forget to set ADC on using either the Network app from LG store, or through the MFG app in the Engineer Menu>Other Settings...

I think I tried messing with ADC while I was testing things out at the at&t tore, and the phone stopped receiving data (?), so I just left it on automatic, is that what you meant?
I'll check it out again tomorrow, right now the phone's updating to nodo as I get ready for sleep. I love this forum.

E900 or E900H
Hey edee1337,
You mentioned having a hard time finding the E900H, but never said which model you ultimately ended up getting. I wonder because it looks like you can get an unlocked E900 off of Amazon for around $360 (Seller:Yellow Deals) and I'm considering it for use with AT&T.
Which did you end up getting?
Thanks!

I used my sim-unlocked E900 both with Orange-FR and Open-EU ROMs in Canada for 2 months with a Fido SIM without any problem. With the Open-EU ROM I've noticed a more stable signal and MMS, but it worked quite well even with Orange ROM, only the MMS was missing that time, so I assume you can save a few bucks and stick to the E900 and set the AT&T profile on MFG App.
PS.: I am currently running my E900 on Brazilian "Oi" network without any problem too, just with the ADC turned on as there's no profile for any Brazilian carrier on MFG App, the same for Fido.
PS.: MMS works here too.

Thanks GolfVR6,
So when you look through provisioning options on your E900 you do actually see an AT&T one as well? If that's the case then I'm sure it'll be just fine.

Used to have until I flashed with the Open-EU firmware, but now when I try to access the Network Profile tool on MFG, the app quit and send me back to the Start Screen.
But I don't need to use this anymore as my ADC is working properly now.

[Q] Any new W7 Phones for Verizon?

Please excuse me if this has been asked before; I'm a Droid guy and don't usually hang out in the Windows area.
I have to get a Windows 7 phone from Verizon for work, and the only thing they have available is the Trophy. I really want something that has 4G and tethering capability, so I don't think this phone is for me. Does anyone know if there is a new phone coming? Why is Verizon's W7 phone offering so limited?
Appreciate it.

Verizon has publicly stated that 4G will be a requirement for any future Windows phones. Microsoft has stated it is working on 4G for its next major operating system release. Unfortunately a large release like that probably isnt coming for another 3 months or more.
However the trophy does do teathering. I just made the jump from Android to the HTC trophy and I could not be happier, I suggest you do it. The simplicity and reliability of WP7 far outweigh not having 4G

cdpoole said:
Verizon has publicly stated that 4G will be a requirement for any future Windows phones. Microsoft has stated it is working on 4G for its next major operating system release. Unfortunately a large release like that probably isnt coming for another 3 months or more.
However the trophy does do teathering. I just made the jump from Android to the HTC trophy and I could not be happier, I suggest you do it. The simplicity and reliability of WP7 far outweigh not having 4G
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Thank you for the response. The Windows phone is going to be replacing my BlackBerry, and an Etch-A-Sketch would be an upgrade from that POS!
I'm going to be working with a development team for WM7 apps and I need the phone to test functionality/usability. So you say the Trophy can tether - how do you get that set up? Our corporate Verizon support rep is the one that said it couldn't be done.

I'd like to know more about the ability to tether the Trophy as well!

Out of box, Verizon Trophy does not support tethering!
However, the SparkW (Verizon Trophy) was recently HSPL'ed, and DFT rom is in testing and supports tethering (where as the stock software does not support it).
Tethering works fantastic on the phone with this rom, and from my investigations, simply swapping the wireless driver from the GSM version should enable tethering (I think a few policy xml's have to carry over too.. I'm still tinkering).
If you get a Verizon Trophy, private message mwang for a link to the rom, and read my HOWTO guide on installing HSPL.

[Q] Can I lift AT&T limitations from my Legend?

Hi all
I have an Legend AT&T that I bought on Amazon last fall.
The fact that it is AT&T branded means it demands that I have an AT&T data plan in order to use WiFi tethering. This is annoying to say the least since up here in Iceland we have no AT&T. I have contacted HTC and they confirm the phone is open and onlocked. AT&T customer support tried its level best to assist me in "unlocking" the phone with out success.
Can anyone tell me how I can get out of this predicament. I also have an ASUS Transformer that I was hoping to connect to the internet with the ATH Legend.
This restriction also means that I can not get updates for the phone since it wants to connect to AT&T for all that.
Please help.
Olafur.

WTF are you trolling or something? You're probably also one of the unluckiest people on Earth as AT&T (US) never ever released the HTC Legend. It was rumoured: http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/htc-legend-coming-to-atandt-according-to-fcc/ , but never.
I'm sorry, but can you try telling us what you did to try and resolve this issue? Most importantly, what interactions did you do with any Icelandic carrier to reproduce the problem? Posting any error massages (EDIT: messages*), or more stories about what you tried to do would definitely help.
Nevertheless, I'm going to try and dissect a problem from your post. You want to activate HTC's Wi-Fi Hotspot. You can't get any updates for the phone. Put those two issues together and you end up with Android 2.1 Eclair. I want you to confirm for me that you have that (Home > MENU > Settings > About Phone). Because if you do, and if I remember correctly, back when we had the Legend on 2.1, and were harassing violently HTC for a Froyo update, we never had Wi-Fi Hotspot functionality unless we rooted.
That's all I can gather from the information provided.
Do me a favour, check at your phone's box and tell me what model your Legend is. Is it A6366, A6363, or A6365? If it's A6366, you have an HTC Aria, not a Legend, and it's a phone NEAR-IDENTICAL to the Legend that was sold down south in the United States on AT&T.
I also have another ridiculous AT&T theory. See, Americans down there sometimes refer to AT&T as Ma Bell or whatever. Bell, (Ignoring the "Ma") could stand for Bell Canada, the carrier IN THE COUNTRY BORDERING THE UNITED STATES that actually carried the HTC Legend. Yeah, it's ridiculous, but who knows? Your Amazon dealer, I'm sceptical of his service now.
Lastly, I'd just love for you to know that whether that phone came originally from Bell in Canada, or AT&T in the States, it won't work on Iceland's 3G bands. Even if you manage to resolve this issue, you won't be able to run on 3G networks. Only the newer HTC devices (starting with Sensation, I believe) are able to run all 3G frequencies around the world (except the Canadian + American AWS bands, only the HTC Amaze can do that). So if you ever manage to get Wi-Fi Hotspot running, you may only use it on 2G EDGE or GPRS, which is painfully slow to browse the internet. You could probably ad-hoc with your Transformer or something, but that's beyond my help.
Good luck!
Love, Bryan from Canada

absolutely trolling

Trolling
I am sorry, what do you mean by "absolutely trolling"?
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absolutely trolling
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HTC Inspire
Hi. For some reason my reply seems to have gotten lost. I will repeat.
In the interest of simplicity I called the phone mine, it is my wife's so I do not have it with me. You are absolutely right, this is not HTC Legend, it is HTC Inspire. The OS is version 2.2.2 (I am more or less sure) and because of no AT&T account none of the software that came with it can be updated. The phone does have the WiFi hotspot option but when I select it the phone complains that I must have AT&T data plan and leaves it at that. It does switch the WiFi off even if it can't activate the Hotspot. So, the option is there but she can't use it to connect her Transformer to the net. This is a really strange shortcoming. Why would AT&T care about what plan she has? Without the Data Plan she would just have to pay dearly. That would just be her desicion.
We have done nothing to get the phone to work. It connects to Icelandic carriers without a problem (yes, 3G as well) and without errors of any kind. I did assume the phone was locked when I turned it on for the first time and purchased an unlock code. That code I never used since there was not unlocking required.
I am not sure what you mean by "trolling".
Thanks,
Ólafur

Ok considering your situation you should root it. The process is very simple. It's a one click root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=952352
Sent from my Inspire 4G using xda app-developers app
Here's a video to help: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...m6DWCA&usg=AFQjCNEDETg2nq8rDBQWfKvlh9APF40fiw
It will root, unlock, install clockwork mod recovery, and superuser.
After that flash a rom. I will say I use the Rom called "Android Revolution HD 6.3.1" and can hotspot when ever I want, even without the AT&T account.
Video for that is here: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...4dTCCA&usg=AFQjCNE6rGAT6Z8pN9omO8UshYbzAup5cQ
As always I take no responsibility if you brick your device, or if you damage your device in anyway. Hope I helped.

HTC Inspire.
Thank you very much. I will root the phone.
Ólafur

Just a FYI for the hotspot to to work you will need a new Rom. But as I stated in my post above, I use Android Revolution HD. It's a very good Rom. Please if I helped, hit the thanks button.
Sent from my Inspire 4G using xda app-developers app

Yes, avoid any ATT branding with any new ROM you choose. For future reference, use the dedicated HTC Inspire/Desire HD forums here on XDA to assist others, assist in development, or seek assistance.
Sent from my Nexus 7 on the XDA app. GO CANADA GO

[Q] AT&T LG G2 unlocked to use on T-Mobile Carrier Rom/Root Questions

Hey Guys,
So, I bought a AT&T LG G2 phone (I had a gift card at Best Buy- they don't carry T-Mobile). I heard that AT&T had the same towers so it's easier to work with an unlocked phone through them, so I bought it there instead from T-Mobile itself.
However, now I realized I don't have some of the features I would have on a T-mobile LG G2, such as my wifi calling, etc. Now, since the phone is unlocked (and I just got it rooted), would installing a T-Mobile rom affect my phone in any way, good or bad? Should I only use AT&T roms? How would I use T-mobile app services?
I searched google for 2 days and couldn't find anything relevant to my question. I've used this site a lot in the past year-two for rooting and such. Thank you guys in advance for continuing to support open development for android.

Wondering the same, about to switch to tmobile.

*Answer solved through own testing
trh1341 said:
Wondering the same, about to switch to tmobile.
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Well, seems like no one has an answer to it...
Anyway, I went ahead and bought the phone. Since I do a lot of testing and rooting myself, this was the first time working on this type. I'm glad you posted, because I would have just forgotten about it now that I've solved the question I had... However, I figure it'd help in the future in case someone is also wondering the same.
Now, with that all stated... down to the answer.
If you bought an AT&T phone, and do an unlock code to use it on another carrier (such as T-mobile since they use the same towers), the rom you MUST use are the AT&T roms... NOT the T-mobile roms. The problem is, when you buy a AT&T phone, unlock it, and root your device to use another rom, it will not be compatible with T-Mobile roms because of the image files, etc. So yes- you will be losing all the features a T-Mobile rom would have such as wi-fi calling, etc...
However, a way to go about this (and it won't work with ALL the features that comes in a T-Mobile phone/rom), is to install a AT&T rom of your choice without all the crappy AT&T bloatware that you can't even use, and go to the T-Mobile section to look for an APK version of the files. Most of the time, T-Mobile roms will also remove the bloatware, however, some developers are kind enough to provide the bloatware APK files in case users would like to have certain one of them features, such as WiFi Calling.
So, that's how I did it, and it's working good.
PS- One last thing, you may have trouble going on the internet or playstore when you're unlocked to a different carrier. All you need to do is find the APN settings for your carrier. So in this case, I bought an AT&T phone, bought unlock code to use on my carrier T-Mobile, and got the T-Mobile APN settings set up, reboot, and I get all my 4G data, etc. You can get this by calling T-Mobile. Just say, you bought an unlocked phone and can't access data, internet, etc, and was told to set up a APN. Or, you can use google. :good:
Hope I helped everyone else out there!!

johnnyjrmoua said:
Hope I helped everyone else out there!!
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So, would I be correct in stating that you will only get 4G in areas where it is offered @ 1900 MHz? What about 2100 MHz? Otherwise you will only get 3G HSPA+? As you can tell I'm a bit confused about compatibility between networks. According to wikipedia they will be doing away with 1900 MHz 4G by 2015. I'm trying to decide if it's worth buying an AT&T or Verizon phone to use on the T-Mobile pre-paid network because it seems the T-Mobile phones are not getting very much development.

johnnyjrmoua said:
Well, seems like no one has an answer to it...
Anyway, I went ahead and bought the phone. Since I do a lot of testing and rooting myself, this was the first time working on this type. I'm glad you posted, because I would have just forgotten about it now that I've solved the question I had... However, I figure it'd help in the future in case someone is also wondering the same.
Now, with that all stated... down to the answer.
If you bought an AT&T phone, and do an unlock code to use it on another carrier (such as T-mobile since they use the same towers), the rom you MUST use are the AT&T roms... NOT the T-mobile roms. The problem is, when you buy a AT&T phone, unlock it, and root your device to use another rom, it will not be compatible with T-Mobile roms because of the image files, etc. So yes- you will be losing all the features a T-Mobile rom would have such as wi-fi calling, etc...
However, a way to go about this (and it won't work with ALL the features that comes in a T-Mobile phone/rom), is to install a AT&T rom of your choice without all the crappy AT&T bloatware that you can't even use, and go to the T-Mobile section to look for an APK version of the files. Most of the time, T-Mobile roms will also remove the bloatware, however, some developers are kind enough to provide the bloatware APK files in case users would like to have certain one of them features, such as WiFi Calling.
So, that's how I did it, and it's working good.
PS- One last thing, you may have trouble going on the internet or playstore when you're unlocked to a different carrier. All you need to do is find the APN settings for your carrier. So in this case, I bought an AT&T phone, bought unlock code to use on my carrier T-Mobile, and got the T-Mobile APN settings set up, reboot, and I get all my 4G data, etc. You can get this by calling T-Mobile. Just say, you bought an unlocked phone and can't access data, internet, etc, and was told to set up a APN. Or, you can use google. :good:
Hope I helped everyone else out there!!
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hey johnny, so you were able to get wifi calling feature on at&t branded lg g2 unlocked?

AT&T phone switch to T mobile Wifi calling do not work
trh1341 said:
Wondering the same, about to switch to tmobile.
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Bought phone from ebay, it is an AT&T phone unlocked and want to use for T-mobile./ With T-mobile network I have to use wifi calling features in order to use in the house.
Could you please explain me how and how much it cost to get wifi calling feature in LG G2 ?

Blu 5 LTE T-mobile wifi calling?

So far I am pretty much sold on this phone only one thing is stopping me. I would really like to have the ability to use t-mobile wifi calling. Can anyone help me on this? Would it be difficult to make happen?

From what I have read, It is only available on tmobile phones. Tmobile won't release the code or whatever to allow developers of tinkerers to use it.