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XDA Atom - Official page

Hi all,
XDA Atom official specs here.
PRO:
- 416MHz Intel Bulverde CPU
- 128 MB storage, 64 RAM
- WM 5.0
- 262K colors
- WiFi 802.11b
- EDGE
- Radio FM
- Bluetooth 1.2 with: headset, hands-free, object push, serial port, dial-up network, advanced audio distribution (A2DP), Audio/Video Remote Control (AVRCP)
- 2.0 MPixel Camera with led flash
- stereo speaker
CONS:
- 2.7 inches screen (magician is 2.8 )
- miniSD slot !!!
It seems a good successor for our magician, ways better than MDA Compact II; miniSD slot however it's a great disadvantage!
Bye

What is the biggest size of mini-SD ? 512 MB ? 1024 MB ?
Which one will you buy ? ATOM or WIZARD ? and WHY ?

gogol said:
What is the biggest size of mini-SD ? 512 MB ? 1024 MB ?
Which one will you buy ? ATOM or WIZARD ? and WHY ?
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I won't buy a Wizard, too fat, too slow, and I don't need a wobbly keyboard.
I may buy the Atom because small size is 75% of what I'm looking for in a PPC phone. The Atom appears to be the smallest device with the most screen real estate possible. Eventually future models will get even thinner. I'll wait for a few reviews before taking the plunge. Meanwhile my Jam works just fine.

416MHz? The same as the Magician? Does this mean ROM compatibility?

kneeslasher said:
416MHz? The same as the Magician? Does this mean ROM compatibility?
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My old Pentium II at school had a 400MHz CPU too but i don't think it was ROM-compatible with our magician!!!
But we can cross our fingers...
Bye bye,
Isidoro

CPU is the same (Intel PXA272 416MHz) but since the manufacturing company is different (Quanta instead of HTC), I doubt that the rest of the hardware is the same. Different hardware => different drivers => different ROMs :'(

risidoro said:
- 416MHz Intel Bulverde CPU
- 128 MB storage, 64 RAM
- WM 5.0
- 262K colors
- WiFi 802.11b
- EDGE
- Radio FM
- Bluetooth 1.2 with: headset, hands-free, object push, serial port, dial-up network, advanced audio distribution (A2DP), Audio/Video Remote Control (AVRCP)
- 2.0 MPixel Camera with led flash
- stereo speaker
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According to mobile-review.com, the camera is not 2.0 Megapixel at all. It is the exact same old crapola camera with "software enhancement"/interpolation/whatever.
Other than that, the specs look good. Hopefully its a decent one.

http://www.mrpalm.com/getcontent3_ppc.php?tid=380
Lots of photos of the Atom here~~
the articles is in thai thou....

skagen said:
According to mobile-review.com, the camera is not 2.0 Megapixel at all. It is the exact same old crapola camera with "software enhancement"/interpolation/whatever.
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The specifications say that it is a 2 MP CMOS Camera. The CMOS implies that it is not software interpolation. However, as has been said may times, 2MP guarantees size but not quality!

CMOS refers to a type of sensor - its nothing to do with the size of it (megapixels). The digital camera world is notorious for including these misleading "interpolation" specs as the specs of the lens, then explaining it in fine print elsewhere.
If this model features the same camera/lens as is found in the Wizard, then its a 1.3MP camera. Read here:
From: http://www.mobile-review.com/pda/review/htc-wizard-en.shtml
The camera has the maximum physical resolution of 1.3 megapixel (1280x1024). At the same time "software" resolution is 2 megapixel by interpolating the initial image. There is no sense in such resolution (by this means the camera doesn't become a 2-megapixel one, the image quality isn't better), it's just a psychological thing
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If its clearly known that this in the Atom is an entire different lens fromw hat is found in the sister models, that's one thing - okay. But given that these are all essentially mix-and-match models, built on the same generation, of the same platform, honestly I wouldn't hold your breath on that.

cmos is the camera ppc and nokia etc phones use (cause it uses less power) teh digital cameras have ccd (or something like this )lenses
the ccd camera of 1.3 megs resolution is better than cmos 1.3 camera
so dont hold your breath for the cmos 1.3 camera on the ATOM

To see some pics taken with the atom, go here:
http://www.mrpalm.com/getcontent3_ppc.php?tid=380&p=2
and click on the links: there are 6 photos of phones and cameras, taken with the atom.
http://www.mrpalm.com/mainnews2/review_atom/realpic/Photo_0009.jpg
http://www.mrpalm.com/mainnews2/review_atom/realpic/Photo_0007.jpg
http://www.mrpalm.com/mainnews2/review_atom/realpic/Photo_0008.jpg
http://www.mrpalm.com/mainnews2/review_atom/realpic/Photo_0010.jpg
http://www.mrpalm.com/mainnews2/review_atom/realpic/Photo_0013.jpg
http://www.mrpalm.com/mainnews2/review_atom/realpic/Photo_0005.jpg
Just I guess, since I don't understand a word of Thai...

skagen said:
CMOS refers to a type of sensor - its nothing to do with the size of it (megapixels). The digital camera world is notorious for including these misleading "interpolation" specs as the specs of the lens, then explaining it in fine print elsewhere.
If this model features the same camera/lens as is found in the Wizard, then its a 1.3MP camera. Read here:
From: http://www.mobile-review.com/pda/review/htc-wizard-en.shtml
The camera has the maximum physical resolution of 1.3 megapixel (1280x1024). At the same time "software" resolution is 2 megapixel by interpolating the initial image. There is no sense in such resolution (by this means the camera doesn't become a 2-megapixel one, the image quality isn't better), it's just a psychological thing
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If its clearly known that this in the Atom is an entire different lens fromw hat is found in the sister models, that's one thing - okay. But given that these are all essentially mix-and-match models, built on the same generation, of the same platform, honestly I wouldn't hold your breath on that.
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I'm with you completely on this. What I meant is that usually when they say "2MP CMOS" they mean that the CMOS sensor is capable of reading 2MP.
When the resolution is interpolated they would say something like 2MP (1.3MP CMOS).
But this depends on how honest the company wants to be. It can be very misleading!

HTC HD3 Specifications

The Official HTC HD3 Specifications from HTC Workers:
- Processor: 1.5 GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon: 1080p Video Ready
- HD Graphics Card 3D
- RAM Memory: 1 GB
- ROM Memory: 1 GB
- Internal Memory: 16 GB
- External Memory: microSD 3.0 Up to 64 GB
- Screen: 4,5" Super AMOLED 1280 x 800 pixel 16 million color Multi-touch
- Camera: 8 megapixel, With HD Video Recording 1280 x 720 pixel
- Front Camera: Video Call And Chat
- 4G: Up to 100 Mbps
- WLAN: WiMAX And Wi-Fi
- OS: Windows phone 7
- Bluetooth: 3.0
- Ports: HDMI, USB 2.0, 3.5 mm audio Jack
- Video Support: Windows Media Video, HD Video, DivX,MPEG4
- Battery: 1800 mAH
- Talk Time: Up to 8 hours, Internet-WiFi And 4G: Up to 7 Hours.

farid55 said:
The Official HTC HD3 Specifications from HTC Workers:
- Processor: 1.5 GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon: 1080p Video Ready
- HD Graphics Card 3D
- RAM Memory: 1 GB
- ROM Memory: 1 GB
- Internal Memory: 16 GB
- External Memory: microSD 3.0 Up to 64 GB
- Screen: 4,5" Super AMOLED 1280 x 800 pixel 16 million color Multi-touch
- Camera: 8 megapixel, With HD Video Recording 1280 x 720 pixel
- Front Camera: Video Call And Chat
- 4G: Up to 100 Mbps
- WLAN: WiMAX And Wi-Fi
- OS: Windows Mobile 7
- Bluetooth: 3.0
- Ports: HDMI, USB 2.0, 3.5 mm audio Jack
- Video Support: Windows Media Video, HD Video, DivX,MPEG4
- Battery: 1800 mAH
- Talk Time: Up to 8 hours, Internet-WiFi And 4G: Up to 7 Hours.
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Windows "Mobile" 7? From "HTC workers?"
This can't be true.

HTC HD3
skylinepigeon said:
Windows "Mobile" 7? From "HTC workers?"
This can't be true.
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If it is true I want one

Still speculation at the moment.
Sounds great, albeit possibly a little TOO great.
4G intrigues yet scares me -watch it fry our little peas!
farid55 said:
The Official HTC HD3 Specifications from HTC Workers:
- Processor: 1.5 GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon: 1080p Video Ready
- HD Graphics Card 3D
- RAM Memory: 1 GB
- ROM Memory: 1 GB
- Internal Memory: 16 GB
- External Memory: microSD 3.0 Up to 64 GB
- Screen: 4,5" Super AMOLED 1280 x 800 pixel 16 million color Multi-touch
- Camera: 8 megapixel, With HD Video Recording 1280 x 720 pixel
- Front Camera: Video Call And Chat
- 4G: Up to 100 Mbps
- WLAN: WiMAX And Wi-Fi
- OS: Windows Mobile 7
- Bluetooth: 3.0
- Ports: HDMI, USB 2.0, 3.5 mm audio Jack
- Video Support: Windows Media Video, HD Video, DivX,MPEG4
- Battery: 1800 mAH
- Talk Time: Up to 8 hours, Internet-WiFi And 4G: Up to 7 Hours.
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faaaaaaaaake.

looks fake to me since from what i had read WM7 will NOT support/allow external memory card (micro etc)

colint3 said:
If it is true I want one
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if the Specifications real, me too

Of course its fake someone just tried making a concept lol probably was bored

mbg19 said:
Of course its fake someone just tried making a concept lol probably was bored
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i think so too, but maybe coming some day with this Specifications

Jesus christ how many times is this going to get posted?
It's not true at all

lol... fake... the first poster even uses the same font and color that previous fake posts had

and to add another nail to the "fake" coffin. IF it ran W7S then it wouldnt have any external storage (as it mentions in the FAKE spec for micro sd cards up to 32gb)
Microsoft were very clear that all W7S phones would only use internal memory with no other memory slots or expansions available (ala iphone stylee)

If it is real, I will get one for sure

fake, not to mention...am I the only one that feels as though the HD2 is big enough as it is? 4.5" screen? good god, it wouldn't fit in my pockets, of that I'm sure.

Pooper said:
Jesus christ how many times is this going to get posted?
It's not true at all
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We post it because it bothers you.

Well, who REALLY knows ?
Specs sound VERY realistic.
And as a matter of fact: HTC is one of the big shots in WinMo-Phones and their devs are always at the leading edge. So they will tell MS: either You agree to an exception (external mSD) or we simply install WM 6.5.x or Android. Anyway MS looses chances to sell SW but who cares about MS?
WP7 or not. This dream machine will come, it´s only natural evolution using the latest available hardware .................

too bad that the fastest snapdragon that was just announced is the 1.2ghz dual core
nice try tho

ironcrotch said:
too bad that the fastest snapdragon that was just announced is the 1.2ghz dual core
nice try tho
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and it will not be used for smartphones till now it will target largerscreen tablets

Can a moderator/admin please lock this thread...

troed said:
Well, who REALLY knows ?
Specs sound VERY realistic.
And as a matter of fact: HTC is one of the big shots in WinMo-Phones and their devs are always at the leading edge. So they will tell MS: either You agree to an exception (external mSD) or we simply install WM 6.5.x or Android. Anyway MS looses chances to sell SW but who cares about MS?
WP7 or not. This dream machine will come, it´s only natural evolution using the latest available hardware .................
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Very realistic
Come on 1 GB of ram what for insane specs needs windows phone 7. And 1.5 GHZ dual core proccesor yeah ok it is possible.
But this specs are alomst capable to run windows xp. I think something like the htc mondrian is more realistic.

[CLOSED/DZ] Device Videos

HTC just announced the Desire Z version of their "Vision" handset that is identical to the G2. It runs a newer version of HTC Sense that's got a lot of nice new enhancements. I expect G2 owners will want to port this in a hurry.
Desire Z will be available in October in Europe and Asia only.
Check out this "Fast Boot" --- boots in like 4 seconds::: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpWPMens9C8
YouTube video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERH9BoU64pw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXnCOhvoqgw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FAIlKN2u5M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwiNDsZNRag
Specifications (from here):
800 MHz Qualcomm Scorpion
Qualcomm MSM7230
2x faster than Snapdragon CPU
5x better than Snapdragon GPU
Android 2.2 w/ HTC Sense
3.7 inch display
800 x 480 resolution
SLCD technology
5 megapixel camera
LED flash
720p HD recording
HSPA+ integration
WiFi b/g/n
Size: 4.7 x 2.4 x 0.6 inches
Weight: 6.5 ounces
Battery: 1300 mAh Lion
Talk time: up to 6.5 hours
Standby time: up to 17.5 days
Pop-out QWERTY keyboard
Four rows
Programmable “quick access” keys
4GB of internal memory
Full aluminum body
HTC Fast Boot
Pre-installed 8GB microSD card
GPS with A-GPS
DLNA Streaming and Media Sharing
3.5 mm stereo audio jack
micro-USB (5-pin micro-USB 2.0)
Audio supported formats – Playback: .aac, .amr, .ogg, .m4a, .mid, .mp3, .wav, .wma (Windows Media Audio 9)
Video supported formats – Playback: .3gp, .3g2, .mp4, .wmv (Windows Media Video 9)
Ambient light sensor
Proximity sensor
Digital compass

On the Dutch website tweakers.net they talk about a AMOLED screen?
http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/266186/htc-desire-z-grijs.html#tab:info
Anyone can clear this up?

About the second video by briefmobile. Did I get it right? The new Sense is only for the HD?

I can't see amount of RAM in specs - does anybody know how much of memory will be installed in this phone?

New version of sense seems to be also on Desire Z (see the right button)

raven_raven said:
I can't see amount of RAM in specs - does anybody know how much of memory will be installed in this phone?
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512 MB according to http://www.htc.com/uk/product/desirez/specification.html

Quite a bit of video in our visit to the HTC Event in London today -
http://hemorrdroids.net/htc-london-after-party/

Yes, 512Mo, sorry was talking about Desire HD :/

steviewevie said:
512 MB according to http://www.htc.com/uk/product/desirez/specification.html
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Why not 768MB like HD?

schriss said:
Why not 768MB like HD?
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Probably just to differentiate from the HD and help justify charging more for the HD. Does it really matter though ?

3d Hd2 clone with front faceing cam.

MTK HD2 T8585 HTC clone from China, Dual Sim/Windows Mobile 6.5, MTK 6516 processor dual core: 460Mhz + 280Mhz, 256MB ROM, 512MB RAM, Dual SIM standby. 4.3 inches Sharp AMOLED resistive touch screen, GPS, G-Sensor, MicroSD card 8GB, WIFI, Bluetooth, Two cameras front facing .3 MP and back facing 5 MP.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wD3m2gC_O_Q
where can I buy this it looks amazing!
wonders if we can have windows phone 7.8 in 3d?
I so want to develop for this device!
Does anyone have any info please share!

3d... don't you mean it has spb shell 3d? i think you misunderstood that (or i did) for real like 3d, like the evo 3d.
also, http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Chinese_Clones_MTK6516_HD9
this is it most definitely. i think it's more than impossible to install windows phone on it, because of the specs. no qualcomm cpu, no bootloader like hd2, different specs....
Edit: this might be helpful too: http://bm-smartphone-reviews.blogspot.com/

Windows 10 on Lumia 540-like device (specwise) - CM Alpha Luxe

Greetings!
A local company in our country released a very affordable windows phone device, the Cherry Mobile Alpha Luxe, which I bought at a sale for just around $61. The specs of this device is very similar to the Lumia 540, it is as follows:
5.0 Inch HD IPS Display (720 × 1280 Pixels, 294 ppi)
Scratch Resistant DragonTrail Glass
Windows Phone 8.1 OS
1.2GHz Quad Core Qualcomm Snapdragon 200 Processor
Adreno 305 GPU
1GB of RAM
8GB Internal Storage
Expandable up to 32GB via MicroSD
8.0 Megapixel Autofocus Main Camera with LED Flash
2.0 Megapixel Front Camera
Dual SIM/Dual Standby
3G HSPA+, 2G EDGE and GPRS Networks
Wi-Fi and Wi-Fi Hotspot
Bluetooth 4.0
GPS
FM Radio
MicroUSB
3.5mm Audio Jack
Accelerometer
2,000mAh Li-ion Battery
My question is, can I probably spoof or do something to get the windows 10 mobile dev preview installed in this unit using the software for Lumia 540?
I'm willing to give it a try if somebody is willing to teach me how.
Thanks and more power!

Actually, you can. But the problem it will be if you want to come back to WP 8.1

You can, its really easy to get it done, but its not really optimized, Im using it on my lumia 525 and its a bit slow.

How to play full hd video on Lumia 540
When I play video's has very lag with deferent players