When Mike update his base for the ARHD rom, a lot of feature/mods needed to be be updated. like themes etc.
I asked a theme developer to update his theme and he asked me why should he still be udating sense 2.1 when theres already a sense 3.
I thought of that, even though we dont have an official sense 3 release for DHD, but most dev have achieved a stable sense 3 roms for DHD.
I can easily swap roms, but am a good fan of mike1986 and would like to make a request for a sense 3 based ARHD. since everyone is flashing sense 3 mods, we can all as well beg for a sense 3 rom.
i understand its a challenging request to make but i started this thread to ask other intrested users to support me. please vote
and hope mike and his team would put this into consideration
hit thanks if u like the idea
the idea is to keep this close to stock and as stable as possible. i'd rather have a reliable rom that functions properly than a bunch of flare that causes issues. mike and team have provided the proper OPTIONS to add these elements to the rom if one chooses to do so.
I'd say that's a rather bad idea, since Sense 3.0 was never designed for this device, is still unstable and certainly slower.
ARHD is not one of the experimental ROMs, it stands for stability and performance.
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Sense 3 sucks. It doesn't matter what you say it slows the device down. The only way ARHD should move to Sense 3 is if there is an official update from HTC with Sense 3 included. Otherwise it is Sense 2.1 all the way baby!
I beg to differ. Im on virtuous unity, and its stable as hell! What is this criticism based on? U say this and that bout sense 3, but have u tried a sense 3 rom?
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dashrink said:
I beg to differ. Im on virtuous unity, and its stable as hell! What is this criticism based on? U say this and that bout sense 3, but have u tried a sense 3 rom?
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Sense 3.0 is designed for phones with a dual-core processor, no?
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Sense 3.0 is designed for phones with a dual-core processor, no?
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designed, mike can design it to work on any cpu, thats why he is the best, thats why this request.
even if there is no switch, he can still make a new rom, to add to his catalogue of roms
Like others have pointed out, the concept behind ARHD is to keep visual stock and to improve the performance etc. If you would like sense 3 goodness, flash the addons or simply move to another rom.
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mike has already answered this!
he WILL move to a sense 3 base ONCE HTC RELEASE AND OFFICAL DHD SENSE 3 UPDATE
until then he wants to stick to a non ported offical base, who can blame him! it runs so slick!
at the end of the day its his personal time that is taken up developing arhd for us, and this is why we like it so much! if you dont then move to a ported sense 3 rom
arhd is one of the best roms. i would suggest to keep one as close to stock as possible and one seperate arhd rom with sense 3.0, so once its perferct we can all flash
i agree unity rom are really niice !!
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Sense 3.0 is designed for phones with a dual-core processor, no?
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No. Sense 3.0 was released on phones that have dual core processors, but it really doesn't make a difference. All of the Sense 3.0 stuff, I bet, will be mostly running off a single core.
It's just a matter of porting and optimising for the DHD.
As to whether or not ARHD should move to Sense 3.0, no. The whole point is that it's a ROM that runs off of the latest stock base. It is supposed to feel stock, work like it's stock, and run reliably like it's stock. Because for the most part, it is stock.
If you want Sense 3.0, you have two choices already, RCMix3D and Virtuous Unity.
I am also an ARHD fan but now im using Virtuous Unity, its stable, ok not as stable as ARHD but its sense 3...
sense 3.0 is cool but ARHD is maded for ver2.1 and this step may cause troubles...
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sense 3.0 is cool but ARHD is maded for ver2.1 and this step may cause troubles...
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no is saying that 2.1 should be abandoned, we requesting a sense 3 rom.
whats the point flashing add-ons when u can have one rom with the add-ons
spaco22 said:
no is saying that 2.1 should be abandoned, we requesting a sense 3 rom.
whats the point flashing add-ons when u can have one rom with the add-ons
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The point of add-ons is the freedom of choice which one, and when to use them!! I would say ...
Sorry... you guys missed one feature difference -> DOLBY..
I bought this phone mainly for Dolby + HTC
Sense 3 dosent support DOLBY so a no go from me...
Other than DOLBY sense 3 is a good ROM to be with DHD
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Sorry... you guys missed one feature difference -> DOLBY..
I bought this phone mainly for Dolby + HTC
Sense 3 dosent support DOLBY so a no go from me...
Other than DOLBY sense 3 is a good ROM to be with DHD
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Same here. Sense 2.1 all the way.
flashing the add-ons won't eat much time if you really want a Sense 3.0 feeling to your ARHD Rom...
j_franco_28 said:
flashing the add-ons won't eat much time if you really want a Sense 3.0 feeling to your ARHD Rom...
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This. This is what I have done. All you are missing out on without Sense 3.0 are widgets (only Photo Grid comes to mind), the camera with HDR (which you can use on the latest base without problems, though you are downgrading the framework doing that) and 3D homescreens (which by nature have a low frame rate).
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spaco22 said:
no is saying that 2.1 should be abandoned, we requesting a sense 3 rom.
whats the point flashing add-ons when u can have one rom with the add-ons
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thats easy for you to say when its not your time being taken up developing! and mike does what 4 or 5 ROMS and you want him to make ANOTHER JUST BECAUSE YOUR TO PISSING LAZY TO FLASH ADDONS
LOL YOUR A JOKE MATE
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Ok so here goes i'm thinking of working on a NAND ROM based on 2.3.1 (Gingerbread) Build: GRH78 FOR THE HTC HD2...but guess what...... i'm gonna try and throw HTC SENSE into the mix and see if i can get them to play nicely together....since this could take some time i just wanted to know if anyone is interested at all???? Just Post and ask if your interested......this ROM is going to based off ofMDJ's CyanogenMod 7 v. 2.3 with MDJ's Kernel: MDJ S10.3 OC (or whatever new Kernal MDJ releases between now and when i get this rom complete) and the Desire HD Sense including the Sense Camera...(THESE ARE MY GOALS FOR THIS ROM)I Will Be Posting Frequently Since I Will Need Testers to find all the little bugs that i miss....
( I WILL ONLY POST ROMS THAT I THINK ARE SAFE...BUT THERE IS THE CHANCE THAT IT STILL CAN BE BRICKED SO BY FLASHING MY ROM YOU KNOW THAT YOUR VOIDING YOUR WARRANTY AND I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE IF YOU BRICK YOUR DEVICE )
EDIT: Im Gonna Try My Hardest to have a Version posted so everyone can play with it by 01/15/2011 - 01/16/2011....
EDIT: I just sent a message to cortulla....mainly if he has any tips or tricks that might help out with this build....01/14/2011
EDIT: Ok I'm sorry for not posting for so long i haven't forgot about you guys...i'm still working on this rom..its harder than anticipated...plus having the free time to do it gets tricky...work is having mandatory overtime since the iphone is being released on verizon...(SCARED MUCH AT&T????)..SO JUST WANTED TO UPDATE AND SAY I DIDN'T DITCH THIS PROJECT.......02/03/2011
Thanks Everyone and remember we couldn't do any of this if it wasn't for Google, Cyanogen, Cotulla & (DFT), MDJ, Markinus, gauner1986, danij3l, gpc, LeTama, Rajko and others...and if i forgot to mention you im sorry just yell at me and i'll be sure to add you to the list =-)....
Reserved...for future postings
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i am interested..
that would be great if gingerbread will have sense
ive loved to run it on my hd2
Count me in as beta tester...
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That is so funny, I have been searching yesterday for something like this .
Count me in.
WTH, why not
We are always looking for something new to put in our phones
Good luck and count me in...
Santroph
Also very interested...
And I'd like to be a beta tester.
Totally interested in this. Gingerbread has come along a great length in the last copuple of days. Latest stock release dated the 14th shows working lights and usb! Would be awsome to have sense built on top!
Please work on it man
Good luck. It's almost impossible; most of sense is dependant on the HTC framework and most libraries, which are in turn interdependent with the android version they run on (2.2). You pretty much have to replace the whole build with 2.2, which, in effect, makes the build a 2.2.
It would be easier to add to 2.2 the keyboard and animations from Gingerbread, along with the launcher. It's close, but it's not really 2.3 either.
Good luck anyway.
for me it's enough to have the desire hd cam on gingerbread. will it ever be possible to provide only the hd cam tool?
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Good luck. It's almost impossible; most of sense is dependant on the HTC framework and most libraries, which are in turn interdependent with the android version they run on (2.2). You pretty much have to replace the whole build with 2.2, which, in effect, makes the build a 2.2.
It would be easier to add to 2.2 the keyboard and animations from Gingerbread, along with the launcher. It's close, but it's not really 2.3 either.
Good luck anyway.
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+1.
It's hardly possible to get sense rosie.apk (the launcher) working on stock android... (afaik nobody has done it to date)
plus I bet its impossible to do it on a different android version.
Yet I would be interested.
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fruchtfliege said:
for me it's enough to have the desire hd cam on gingerbread. will it ever be possible to provide only the hd cam tool?
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Why?
Use Camera 360 or a similar app. They do the same (may look worse but who cares?)
(maybe no facial recognition - yet do you really need that?)
it seems to me that Gingerbread mostly enhanced aosp anyways, it tweaked the UI and didn't really have that many enhancements.
If you could just port the Gingerbread keyboard, icon set, Nexus S LWPs, and the screen-off animation to a Sense build then you basically have it.
(may look worse but who cares?)
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yep, and that's exactly what i want: a good looking camera app. technically i'm satisfied with the gingerbread cam, but it looks awful in compare to hd cam app...
I'm dreaming of it !!!
Bring it on!
I'd love to give sense a try on Gingerbread!
2.2 Sense ?
Sense HD would be cool but I imagine more work
I'll look forward to it !
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sure man it will be revolutionary start .... good luck ...
Absolutely impossible. You need a HTC leaked ruu I tell you that. Unless you are a fremework wiz. If you are, 10-90 chance. Good luck. You may make history with it.
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"if" you're able to pull it off, I sure will try it out
I really like CM7, but I would like a good Rom that has SenseUI. anyone know of one? i'd like it to be stable and most stuff working.
Orange Sense. HTC Sense, very fast and stable. Available in the development forum.
I have a question...pardon my ignorance on the matter...
What exactly are "earmarks" of a senseUI? I used my stock glacier rom until only last week, and now am using CM7/RC4, and I fail to see the UI differences. This surprised me because I see people have some pretty strong feelings for or against senseUI compared to Android stock UI.
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they are two different rom types, the sense framework takes up more space, but it is really fancy with the clock that's the only reason i want it.
You want the old fashioned 1980s flip clock that you see in most of the Mytouch 4G print ads? I didn't even realize that was now not an option...
I cannot imagine you can't use it though. Just review all the different home launchers... There had got to be one that will let you use this clock.
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I have a question...pardon my ignorance on the matter...
What exactly are "earmarks" of a senseUI? I used my stock glacier rom until only last week, and now am using CM7/RC4, and I fail to see the UI differences. This surprised me because I see people have some pretty strong feelings for or against senseUI compared to Android stock UI.
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You don't see the difference between Sense and the standard Android UI?
Also, the stock MT4G ROM is not real Sense. It's a T-Mobile customized version that isn't near as attractive. "Real" Sense is much more attractive.
TeeJay3800 said:
You don't see the difference between Sense and the standard Android UI?
Also, the stock MT4G ROM is not real Sense. It's a T-Mobile customized version that isn't near as attractive. "Real" Sense is much more attractive.
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Not really, and I am usually big on bells and whistles too. I think I may go back to sense (a modded 2.3 rom). Are there any you (or anyone with an opinion) suggest I try out first?
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the modded 2.3 ones aren't stable i don't think, that's why im asking is there one lol. most have issues running somethings like bluetooth or camera.
Evil's 4G-HD Desire HD rom. Pair it with the latest Faux Sense kernel and it will fly! Everything works!
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Not really, and I am usually big on bells and whistles too. I think I may go back to sense (a modded 2.3 rom). Are there any you (or anyone with an opinion) suggest I try out first?
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The two posts above this one pretty much sums it up.
Gingerbread/Sense 2.1 ROMs aren't fully functional or stable yet.
If you want Sense, try eViL's Desire HD port. Link is in my sig.
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The two posts above this one pretty much sums it up.
Gingerbread/Sense 2.1 ROMs aren't fully functional or stable yet.
If you want Sense, try eViL's Desire HD port. Link is in my sig.
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Great.. will try it out. The only things I have noticed that are different are small niceties, which may have nothing to do with sense and cm7. For example, in the glacier's stock rom, I loved that you could be on the phone and simply set it on a table rear side up, and haptics would turn on the speakerphone. It doesn't sound like much but small things like this add up and overall gave me a better experience.
Can I ask why faux and others at cyanogen are able to create 4 release candidates for their 2.3 rom, yet a stable 2.3 sense rom is still weeks away? Is this because of the morons over at HTC, who don't understand what open source means and won't release their code?
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Can I ask why faux and others at cyanogen are able to create 4 release candidates for their 2.3 rom, yet a stable 2.3 sense rom is still weeks away? Is this because of the morons over at HTC, who don't understand what open source means and won't release their code?
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Pretty much. We'll of course never have the source code to Sense, but a good dump from a similar phone can be ported. The problem is, the only Gingerbread/Sense 2.1 dump we have is from the Incredible S, and despite the similarities in hardware, the kernel isn't directly compatible. It sounds like until we get a better starting point, those ROMs will be buggy and missing features.
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Pretty much. We'll of course never have the source code to Sense, but a good dump from a similar phone can be ported. The problem is, the only Gingerbread/Sense 2.1 dump we have is from the Incredible S, and despite the similarities in hardware, the kernel isn't directly compatible. It sounds like until we get a better starting point, those ROMs will be buggy and missing features.
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By dump do you mean the actual code? And so is motorola (or whoever is behind the incredible...cannot recall at the moment) releasing their code? Because if you are just doing a memory dump and doing some RE to get the actual code, I would ask why that can't be done with the glacier.
And as long you have something a little better than binary, I would think you could get some reasonable starting point from the glacier stock. I am not really skilled in the art as of yet so consider me mostly speaking out of my ass. But I am quite interested. Maybe I will try to get the sense code for you . I mean there has to be a few draft versions in some server not locked up tight.
Oh..and lastly, so evil's rom is a quasi 2.3 (not in substance) with the kernel being 2.2 just tricked out?
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At this point, I don't think I know much more about this than you. I know a dump is much like the ROMs that we flash to our phones...it's the phones entire OS and software package which can then be ported to other phones (assume their of the same manufacturer and are somewhat similar). As you know, the Desire HD is nearly identical to the Glacier (minus the screen) so a dump from it can be easily ported to our phones, and after some "devving", will run perfectly on the MT4G. As far as binaries and code, that's all way beyond me. An actual dev could give you a lot more detailed info.
I asked this earlier and I think it just got lost... but in regard to a sense rom, is evil's rom like a "quasi" 2.3 (has the look but not the substance of gingerbread) with a 2.2.1 kernel that's just tricked out, updated, etc.?
I am not familiar with kernels being separate from the rom. Why is this done? I am sure the install is not too difficult (considering what I have been through with CM7), but is there a guide here,our should I just comb the threads for an installation overview for the sense roms/kernels?
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Edit: I started reading the thread for evil's rom.. and for now, I think I might go back to stock, and upgrade the kernel. (unless there are really no problems worth the Z port, like ffc or wifi issues). So with that said, which kernel is best for the HD sense stock rom (or which stock rom out there has been enhanced the best with everything still functional)? I know there aren't that many different upgraded stock roms/kernels, but of the ones I found, they seem the same.
Sorry to makes this long but I ask this because I see people with just the stock plus an upgraded kernel, but then also, there is the Orange Glacier which is an enhanced stock rom.... Wouldn't those two packages be virtually identical?
Or am I just letting this kernel factor confuse me?
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Forget it.... I just spent 3 hours in the dev threads.... The nomenclature mess was making my eyes bleed... Orange Glacier, Iced Glacier, Royal Ginger, Royal Mint, Royal Jelly, KY Jelly... %^$#^
So... I retract my earlier decision and I am going to stay on the bleeding edge with CM7... F*ck it if I can't do progressive scan video or get reply notifications to MMS messages sent to CDMA networks!!*
*I just made those two things up... It means to say that the bugs that do exist in CM7 are very arcane and minor... But I am an easy sell so tomorrow I will probably want to go back to sense.
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http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_desire_...gingerbread_on_16_may_in_the_uk-news-2638.php
The above article says that HTC Desire HD and Incredible S get Gingerbread on 16 May. Today is the 17th. Anybody got any news?
I'm sure these updates could help speed up the efforts to have a fully working version of Ginger-Sense for the HD2.
It's better to stick with your favorite Gingerbread Sense ROM for updates. If your favorite ROM thread is still support by the dev, he will surely upgrade his Sense build. Instead of making a thread that won't fasten his work. Give him a week or two after the official release date to update it in his thread.
I was asking because there's no Gingerbread Sense ROM that really works.
There are only 2 Sense ROMs that are Gingerbread based: imilka's Gingerbread Sense and RafDroid HD Gingerbread. Each of them has a long list of known issues and I assume they are made from bits and pieces of other Sense ROMs.
I assumed that having a Desire HD Ginger-ROM would stimulate other developers to get on board of similar projects.
I don't own a Desire HD so I don't know if the update has been released. I thought some of the people on this forum should know more on this issue.
I'm not trying to waste anyone's time, I was just asking a legitimate question.
PS: right now I'm running the same ROM that you are running.
of course there is no fully working one yet because the devs need access tothe source code and libraries used to be able to hack them to work on our hd2
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I was asking because there's no Gingerbread Sense ROM that really works.
There are only 2 Sense ROMs that are Gingerbread based: imilka's Gingerbread Sense and RafDroid HD Gingerbread. ...
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There are some more Gingerbread Sense rom's, but max. Android 2.3.3.
There are no V2.3.4 sense rom from HTC available.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1058110
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=989289
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1076951
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075703
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075621
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1066279
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1062881 (Post 4+5)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1052298
Have tried some, the stablest are the roms with the Sense 2.1 lock screen or the 3.0 one without the app-links. Pictures from the camera are a little bit unsharp with less light, camcorder works in no rom. But Dungphp said, it was working nearly. If you can live without the camera, you will have no graphical glitches. Had often start problems of the sense launcher, after install or after some reboot's.
All problems should be solved if HTC will release the code of the desire gingerbread kernel (!not desire HD, this is already released but hardware is more different).
I will check today and let you know.
Yeah i tried a few Ginger sense builds and whilst they are good they are still way too buggy for everday use not to mention the camcorder issue not resolved so i wont be flashing any more until they are stable.
Forgot the only solution to record a video. "Videocam illusion" record video's in .mov format at our sense gingerbread rom's, but the quality is not so good.
jonny68 said:
Yeah i tried a few Ginger sense builds and whilst they are good they are still way too buggy for everday use not to mention the camcorder issue not resolved so i wont be flashing any more until they are stable.
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+1, returned to stable froyo sense.
The stablest one was the sbryan12144 v0.2, no installation problem's and everthing working very fast. But the glitches and the bad camera and camcorder was 1 problem too much for me.
[16.May.11]BOYPPC-SHIFTPDA DESIRE HD V14*GINGER 2.3.4_Sense&HoneyComB V21*MIUI V2
Richy99 said:
of course there is no fully working one yet because the devs need access tothe source code and libraries used to be able to hack them to work on our hd2
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Yes, I know what they need to make the magic happen. I'm also a developer (C++/C#/SQL Windows software), and though I have little to no experience on Android software & ROMs, I know how hard they work for everything they do.
BTW HTC should kiss XDA's feet each and every morning. I got more support on this site than I ever got from HTC.
^^^it just so
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[16.May.11]BOYPPC-SHIFTPDA DESIRE HD V14*GINGER 2.3.4_Sense&HoneyComB V21*MIUI V2
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tried it but wayyyy too buggy at present.
Looking for a Sence ROM which works and is lightweight for the HTC Wildfire (not the S)
Anybody got any suggestions?
Thanks
I ´m also looking for a lightweight Sense Rom.
It does not matter if is Froyo or Gingerbread.
It must be light (have olny essential Apps like BT, Telephone,SMS,Keyboard)
and quick.
I use Jokerdroid 4.3.1 but i think you (I mean the members of this cool forum), know much better sense roms.
HTC Hybrid:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893399
ImPros v1.2:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=976068
You can't term the other ROMs "lightweight" since they carry the full Sense feature set.
I think I'm giving up with sense just lightweight now!
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I think I'm giving up with sense just lightweight now!
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In that case, you have a ton of options in AOSP. The most popular, of course, would be Cyanogenmod 7 (Gingerbread)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1143125
Cyanogenmod 6 (Froyo)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=822132
Complete ROM List:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1029318
Hopefully you get a ROM which suits you. Good Luck.
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I think I'm giving up with sense just lightweight now!
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+1 thumbs up for cm7
you could try rempuzzlerom lite version, its really nice
Best lightweight sense rom....is Cm7+Ntsense Theme
http://www.gsmarena.com/here_is_how...wich_with_htc_sense_looks_like-news-3557.php#
Got the link and pictures off of RcMix Blog~
it is a test build with sense 3.5 and just android 4.0 the official releases will include android 4.0 and sense 4.0
but i think sense 4.0 is no where near. I can't find a specific date or even month in 2012 so yea the recent builds would probably include sense 3.5
Sense 4.0 will be onboard HTC Ville? Thought it'll be released first quarter
Sent from my 3310...intensely modified
we'll have it soon thanks to capy and the rcmix3d team
htc vile will be coming out with android 4.0 and sense 4.0 in 2012, but im not sure when though....hope its gonna be around the 1st quarter~
rumors said its 2nd quarter lol
I heard that also. When the Ville comes out and AT&T grabs it???hopefully, that will be my next phone
Wow, look very nice!
Welcome
I welcome Sense 4.0, however i do hope its not so much of a resource hog as the others. Quite likely it will be.
if it is then im gonna stick with CM9 (when released for the DHD)
Any source that they will make sense 4.0?
ICS with sense will awesome
In my opinion the sense ui didn't develop since sense 2.0.
HTC doesn't need to reinvent sense but compared to a clean ICS Android it appears outmoded.
leinpfad said:
In my opinion the sense ui didn't develop since sense 2.0.
HTC doesn't need to reinvent sense but compared to a clean ICS Android it appears outmoded.
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did you try sense 3.5 my friend? stylish not outmoded your comment applies to sense 2.1 and 3.0
well as good as the development of ics going does anybody know when the camera will work. because if they finish with sense 3.5-4.0 without the camera it will sucks
and its sense 3.5-4.0 because its a test of 4.0 it has some new stuff over sense 3.5
I will be dearly waiting coz for me the sense camera is cm killer for me this is the main reason why I mainly use sense but do flash aosp roms like the ics builds
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hamdir said:
did you try sense 3.5 my friend? stylish not outmoded your comment applies to sense 2.1 and 3.0
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I have to admit I didn't try 3.5 yet.
But I'll give it a try.
I have DHD and I wish there was a rom with clean Android 4 without sense but working with HTC Windows software. I know it's a wishful thinking.
Speaking of sense 3.5, for me it is better (more useful) than clean Android 2.3.x.
Thanks and we are waiting for ICS
This thread just doesn't make sense.