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This is a informational poll to help some people choose between the different types of kernels that IntersectRaven offers.
wrong subforum buddy, ask this on general.
Why would I put this in General forums?? It is about kernels which is categorized as development since it isnt an app or core function
It's a poll about kernels, but has nothing to with development.
Ok. Well sorry you feel that way.. If it bothers you that bad.. just put some white-out on your monitor where this topic is in the topic listing so you want have to see it!! Thanks
Play nice fellas...
playin4sheezy said:
Ok. Well sorry you feel that way.. If it bothers you that bad.. just put some white-out on your monitor where this topic is in the topic listing so you want have to see it!! Thanks
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Im sorry, but this response is full of win. I applaud you sir.
LOL im just having a little fun. No harm
I will leave this thread in its place since I don't think it would make much sense in the General section. While it isn't development per say, it isn't like saying "what do you like better WM or Android?"
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LOL im just having a little fun. No harm
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get out
get out????
uhhhh.. what am i getting out of???
A poll that could give people a better choice of which kernel to go with???
or
A thread that is filled with intelligence and good information provided by you??
How about lets stick to the topic and talk about advantages/disadvantages and information about battery life for each of the different kernels.
SOUNDS GOOD TO ME
kinda point less since IntersectRaven updates kernels almost daily how bout just read his thread/posts which state the obvious and continue the discussion of his kernels on his thread..
I voted even though I only used one of these.
14hrs gone, 42% left on 925 CFS! Truly awesome compared to stock, this is my company phone so wifi use and call time is high!
Thanks for the feedback!
i use the 925 cfs but i've not tried the others.
I have tried the bfs one but it was a bit buggy for me to try battery life testing
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get out
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I second this
I feel lonely on 800mv BFS now. Nobody else? Really?
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I second this
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WOW!!! Thanks alot for your input. Really helps us see which one is better... After all the bashers, you were still nice enough to help out with your wits.. THANKS ALOT MAN!
All the devs I have spoken to are seriously cold but seriously smart dudes, and not one wants to accept a suggestion upfront, but most do incorporate it anyway
Here is salutes to all you guys who have written coded designed or virally reposted any of your work. You make my heart skip a beat <3
within a sentence, you've manage to put an insult, a praise and display of gratitude...
and what's that for? Seems like you're not happy - and yet don't want to display it purely....
Maybe if he/she has made use of punctuations correctly, we would understand his/her statemant much easier.
WTF is this thread about????
Devs rock, I love em. Its about them, this thread.
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within a sentence, you've manage to put an insult, a praise and display of gratitude...
and what's that for? Seems like you're not happy - and yet don't want to display it purely....
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Are you a dev?
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Maybe if he/she has made use of punctuations correctly, we would understand his/her statemant much easier.
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Punctuations are correct only.
zolah said:
WTF is this thread about????
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About devs
I did read it and its kind of weird post.
I dont think other understand it as well.
So maby you shall explain what you mean.
DamianGto said:
I did read it and its kind of weird post.
I dont think other understand it as well.
So maby you shall explain what you mean.
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I think he says you guys snub him when he suggests something to you & later on end up using his pieces of wisdom without acknowledging him.
This thread is good
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I did read it and its kind of weird post.
I dont think other understand it as well.
So maby you shall explain what you mean.
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I for one know you have SERIOUS attitude problem. I hope you take it in the right sense.
Why don't you some out in the open & tell?
Favouriting this one...
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I love these threads. Awesome.
So let's see some names of attitudy devs -)
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WTF is this thread about????
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As this guy said ...
Its about Devs who live at a high altitude i think .
jje
This thread has Tigerblood!
Perhaps a warlock could help?
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This thread has Tigerblood!
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Don't forget the Adonis DNA.
#XDADEVS #WINNING
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Are you a dev?
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why? do you sense my cold attitude and yet smart rebuff on your sentence?
but no.. i am not a dev - at least not on XDA.
Ok guys group hug?
Some people are tribal some dance to their own tune. Damian has ruffled many a feather here it seems but so be it he has pride in his work and seems to be a perfectionist, he has his tribe or rather had until the ext2 tribe disbanded along with z4mod and oclf... And the ext4 have theirs.
We all have our personality quirks and the devs often disagree which is expected and healthy.
I think the biggest weakness is pride which can prevent people admitting mistakes and learning from people who may actually know more. Since I am a layman I have no idea who is guilty of this not knowing technical coding talk.
I have seen some comments from Damian which sure seemed a bit rude, maybe a language barrier? Where are from Damian how well can you speak English? Btw... anyway I have grown to understand him an he has integrity and talent... and a Hot head LOL!
And I used ext2 with an old Damian kernel with no problems. Seemed ok to me, curious I even forced my phone to crash and pulled the battery with no problems. He still uses it and many using his new kernel too ...
My greatest respect for being the most diplomatic and humble of all the devs goes out to supercurio. A while back he found a serious bug in universal lag fix kernel, his direct competition, and didn't act smug about it or arrogant. In fact he wrote a kernel to fix the corrupted data this caused. And the ulfk guys promptly rectified it with a thanks. We all make mistakes. Considering his professional level of talent and amazing work he could be arrogant, plus he is French! (Joke).
C'mon I hate to see the stereotype childish, *****y geek coming out so much.
Now Damian, prove to us all you don't have to much pride or passive/aggressive problems with other devs and use some of the work from others in your great kernel that we all want. If you believe the code is sloppy or not up to your standard so be it. You are clearly not afraid to say so, so put it in a separate kernel version with a warning if you like and silence your critics.
Ok...another group hug people
Stock JPY, Insanity SpeedMod OC-1200Mhz/UV, ext4, JVE gingerbread Modem,
I am looking for a feature comparison of ROMS, kinda like when you compare TV's. Has anyone compiled such a list? I have just started using MIUI and really love some of the features in it, but I have been getting horrendous battery life. So I thought I would try a CM build. I realize that they are going to be different, but it would be nice if you could see if there are similarities between the 2 or if it would be a new learning curve again.
I looked at the WIKI page for the ROMS but that is more of a general overview than what I was looking for.
I realize I am what I am looking for is most likely a pipe dream but it can't hurt to ask and see if it exists. Oh and sorry in advance if this exists and I just missed it!
Thanks for the help and replies
This will PROBABLY go in the General section, but I could see why you posted it here
To my knowledge no such list exists beyond word of mouth. You would have to compile such a list
Basically you are going to have to read the threads of each Rom to see the differences. Someone here did create a website comparing Roms just like you are wanting. They also did the same thing with kernels. I am not sure if he is still updating the website, but the link to it is somewhere here. I believe it is in the Q&A section. If I find the link I will come back and post it here. This should have been posted in Q&A or general, but no big deal. Some people will think it's a big deal, but really it is an honest mistake.
I found this. It is a few video reviews of some of the more popular Roms here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=841416
OK. Here is the link to the thread that will link you to skydeaner's website with reviews of Rom's, Kernel's and apps. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=790559
Well MIUI (iPhone wanna be) is completely different than anything out there. All other ROM's would be pretty similar, besides CM that doesn't use Sense and one of the best Sense ROM's out there, Warm. Just try each one and see how you like it.
OMG that explains why I dislike MUIU.
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OMG that explains why I dislike MUIU.
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Ignorant statement is ignorant.
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And it's MIUI, not MUIU.
scirio said:
Ignorant statement is ignorant.
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And it's MIUI, not MUIU.
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Agreed..Just installed MIUI a few hours ago and love it so far...
scirio said:
Ignorant statement is ignorant.
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And it's MIUI, not MUIU.
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Opinion is opinion, respect it like you'd want others to respect your opinion.
I'm a big fan of sense, so it's either MikFroYo or Konikub's Elite Series II for me
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I found this. It is a few video reviews of some of the more popular Roms here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=841416
OK. Here is the link to the thread that will link you to skydeaner's website with reviews of Rom's, Kernel's and apps. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=790559
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Thanks for this, this is very helpful, especially the second link, its a nice consolidation of everything, plus the star ratings help to.
As for putting this in the wrong spot, thanks for not being to tough on me, I couldn't decide since it was a ROM question but not a ROM specific question I figured it could go into multiple places.
For the preference I do like sense but I also like the non-sense roms, I wish i had the technical know how to build one that would be perfect for me, but alas I may be a geek I am not a code-writing/understanding geek. MIUI seems to have really gone a unique direction, that's why i think I am drawn to it but I did try CM last night and it has some nice features as well. And Koni's ROM is outstanding. I need to hit the lottery, then I will just buy enough EVO's to have a different ROM on each one. Damn all these good ROMS.
Thanks for the help again, i do appreciate it!!
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Ignorant statement is ignorant.
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And it's MIUI, not MUIU.
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In fairness, the statement "Well MIUI (iPhone wanna be) is completely different than anything out there. All other ROM's would be pretty similar, besides CM that doesn't use Sense and one of the best Sense ROM's out there, Warm. Just try each one and see how you like it." is just as ignorant if not MORE lol
ROMs are VERY different. Screenshots of the homescreen don't tell the whole story
Tis true. I haven't even tried then all yet, though I try
Cooler than your EVO
here is the best i could find
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Supersonic/ROMs
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Well MIUI (iPhone wanna be) is completely different than anything out there. All other ROM's would be pretty similar, besides CM that doesn't use Sense and one of the best Sense ROM's out there, Warm. Just try each one and see how you like it.
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it also depends on your device and how you have it set up on how good your battery life is. each rom run's different on each phone and so does each kernel.Because if one kernel is great for you it might be a bad one for me or someone else.Just like a rom if one is great for you it might be bad for me or someone else.
With a lot of them as far as Sense roms go, it's mainly a difference in looks. CM is asop based, I assume muiu is asop based somewhere maybe, but totally revamped UI. I like CM7 the most personally, Sense looks okay but to me it became annoying after awhile.
Why do people seem to be so sensitive in this forum? Can't someone post a comment about how they feel about something, like say a ROM or a Kernel, without 20 people jumping down his/her throat. Relax people, it's just an opinion. They aren't talking smack about your mom or your family, so chill out a bit and let people express their thoughts without getting all up in arms. Jeez...
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Why do people seem to be so sensitive in this forum? Can't someone post a comment about how they feel about something, like say a ROM or a Kernel, without 20 people jumping down his/her throat. Relax people, it's just an opinion. They aren't talking smack about your mom or your family, so chill out a bit and let people express their thoughts without getting all up in arms. Jeez...
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No. does this suprise you? This is the intetnet, flaming is what its all about now...
Im actually surprised and wondering where the "wrong section" folks are. Im pretty sure this has nothing to do with specific developement, so it should be in the general...
I agree people seem extra sensitive latley. Maybe its the economy....
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Im actually surprised and wondering where the "wrong section" folks are. Im pretty sure this has nothing to do with specific developement, so it should be in the general...
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The first post after OP already beat us to the punch, but he/she added a few smilies so it didn't seem like trolling.
Also, while the title of the thread could have been better, I will agree that posting this here really isn't that big of a deal as compared to other threads that are just blatant ignorance.
Here is why:
OP clearly stated the unsureness of where to post. OP clearly seems to have done some research. There is a sticky up top with ROM info that *can* be used as somewhat of a comparison, but it really seems to be lacking. The post really seems to have pointed out a weak spot, and there was some decent discussion about it.
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The first post after OP already beat us to the punch, but he/she added a few smilies so it didn't seem like trolling.
Also, while the title of the thread could have been better, I will agree that posting this here really isn't that big of a deal as compared to other threads that are just blatant ignorance.
Here is why:
OP clearly stated the unsureness of where to post. OP clearly seems to have done some research. There is a sticky up top with ROM info that *can* be used as somewhat of a comparison, but it really seems to be lacking. The post really seems to have pointed out a weak spot, and there was some decent discussion about it.
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Playing a little devils advocate sorry.
Man im frickin moody today...
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Sirmx,
I think we are kinda on the same page, I can just be an ass.
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There seem to be so many variables which affect comparisons between ROMS that any single summary would probably not be accurate for lots of people. For one, your EVO behaviour with any ROM, from what I have read and personally experienced, can be dramatically influenced by your hardware version.
Some EVOs don't like undervolting or overclocking as much as others so you may find a ROM/Kernel combination totally unstable while others quote it as rock solid.
I also have different experience with the same ROMS depending on whether I wipe/flash with CW or Amon recovery (Amon is much better IMHO).
I am trying to do everything at once with my phone... Primary internet connection at home, business phone (can phone and hotspot at the same time on 4G) and use navigation a lot etc...
So far I usually end up running into random rebooting with any dev. ROM and have to wipe/reflash to get better again.. Again, this may be a quirk with my phone...
Best advice is to try them all and see what works best for you... One improvement to the ROM Wiki could be to add info on what works and what doesn't for each ROM. For instance no 4G or no GPS for any ROM would be a deal breaker for me.
For those familiar with Ziggy's work, he finally compiled a kernel for the Thunderbolt. It is a beta kernel so there will be bugs, so test it out. For reporting bugs please comment on his website. I am in no way affiliated with Ziggy, just wanted to spread the news.
Will try to update as much as possible.
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Loved his kernel on my Evo. Thanks for the heads up.
TB refuses to wake up had to do a battery pull
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Fantastic. Ran a number of Ziggy's kernels on my Inc and was quite pleased. Can't wait till these get refined.
2 new beta kernels up on Ziggy's website today. ziggy471.com
been testing these for a while now. AWESOME is the only way to describe them lol
Wow this is blazing
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been testing these for a while now. AWESOME is the only way to describe them lol
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Ziggy471 never fails to impress! From the tp2 days to the DInc, and now the ThunderBolt......just keeps getting better!
Just what ive been waiting for.. a 1.8 CFS kernel
Nikolai2.1 said:
Just what ive been waiting for.. a 1.8 CFS kernel
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What is CFS vs BFS?
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What is CFS vs BFS?
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Has nobody heard of 'Google' anymore?
The first link when you search for exactly that:
http://www.stackednotion.com/2010/06/04/what-are-bfs-and-cfs
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Has nobody heard of 'Google' anymore?
The first link when you search for exactly that:
http://www.stackednotion.com/2010/06/04/what-are-bfs-and-cfs
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What are you some kinda angry nerd? You tend to get better explanations about PHONE questions on a PHONE message board. How each effects a PHONE vs Linux....
Take a step back and stop being an angry phone nerd.
To cut it short,
BFS is generally faster, but has its hickups when multitasking.
CFS can be a little lower in quad scores (which mean nothing in my opinion) but do better on multitasking.
I prefer CFS, its smoother to me.. Try em both, it depends on what you prefer and what your phone can handle
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What are you some kinda angry nerd? You tend to get better explanations about PHONE questions on a PHONE message board. How each effects a PHONE vs Linux....
Take a step back and stop being an angry phone nerd.
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Nobody in the forums hate anything more than answering silly questions...always search before posting...especially development forums. If you have a simple questions, post in the general thread or simple google search and you will find your answers...not being harsh...just stating facts.
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Nobody in the forums hate anything more than answering silly questions...always search before posting...especially development forums. If you have a simple questions, post in the general thread or simple google search and you will find your answers...not being harsh...just stating facts.
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What was I thinking... BFS vs CFS is so common. I was actually going to ask my mom about it.
Nikolai2.1 - thank you very much. See how easy that was? Instead you guys decide to insult and argue, taking up MORE comment space.
This thread is becoming funny. Guys, even if you want people to search, please be polite. No point being too challenging. Many people ask simple questions because they want to hear answers in laymen terms. Please be kind - you were a noob once too.
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What was I thinking... BFS vs CFS is so common. I was actually going to ask my mom about it.
Nikolai2.1 - thank you very much. See how easy that was? Instead you guys decide to insult and argue, taking up MORE comment space.
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I dont mind answering questions, but some others do. and thats okay, honestly this really shouldnt be in the development section, but im not gonna get mad
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What are you some kinda angry nerd? You tend to get better explanations about PHONE questions on a PHONE message board. How each effects a PHONE vs Linux....
Take a step back and stop being an angry phone nerd.
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Actually I disagree. A well researched article will give you or anyone else much more info than 10 people expressing what their opinion is on the topic.
Also he did not only google it for you but he posted the link for you as well. I also did not see him sling any names at you.
Maybe a Thank You should be in order.
It might also be noteworthy to address that this belongs in the General Section not Development.
Good Luck
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This thread is becoming funny. Guys, even if you want people to search, please be polite. No point being too challenging. Many people ask simple questions because they want to hear answers in laymen terms. Please be kind - you were a noob once too.
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I see both angle's really. if the statement was just go search then yeah. He did in fact supply the info. Might not be to yours or my liking but I do take the words for what they are. I try not to read into them to much. We must remember emotions are very difficult to read.
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I dont mind answering questions, but some others do. and thats okay, honestly this really shouldnt be in the development section, but im not gonna get mad
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agreed! and with that my last post about this, don't want to hyjack ziggy's kernel thread any further.
Anyone? 10char
Sure
Perfect section to post in.
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Sure
Perfect section to post in.
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I fail to see where your benchmarks are.
Cheers!
Minimods nowadays...
quadrant gives me around 2200. linpack multi-thread gives 50-56 MFLOPS, single thread ~34.
did anyone else notice the icons in the notification bar (to the right) and the default icons for the new motoblur skin (at the bottom of the homescreen) are low res?
also the livewallpapers issue doesn't seem to be fixed.
i could care less in a beta build, I'm just happy to see that 'unlocked' show up when i boot.
he's right, this thread shouldve been put in q&a
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quadrant gives me around 2200. linpack multi-thread gives 50-56 MFLOPS, single thread ~34.
did anyone else notice the icons in the notification bar (to the right) and the default icons for the new motoblur skin (at the bottom of the homescreen) are low res?
also the livewallpapers issue doesn't seem to be fixed.
i could care less in a beta build, I'm just happy to see that 'unlocked' show up when i boot.
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Yeah I couldn't care less either. Thanks for the info. I wonder if well be seeing improved quad scores over froyo in the final build?
benchmarks aren't that great a predictor of real world performance. there was a story last week about someone making a modified CM7 build that unrealistically destroyed benchmarks on the Nexus S
looking forward to the dev work on this thread!
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Minimods nowadays...
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Well, actually you failed to post on the right thread. Jesus this is a development thread.
though this is the wrong section, i was consistently getting 2700's and i maxed around 2850 in quadrant. i have the screenshots if proof is necessary. i also got high 70's in linpack multi-thread.
mods will move this thread when they see it...but who cares about quadrant its not a very accurate gauge of performance. i can tell you that 2.3.4 is definitely faster than 2.2.2 in every way
Linpack multi-thread- high 70s also.
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froyo deblur 78.816 MFLOPS Quadrant 2875
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Perfect section to post in.
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Xda is looking for mods these days..
And we need one, to keep our forum clean, and everything in correct order..
With tags in the topics.. Eg [ROM] [MOD].. Editing topics ..
Etc in a 100 pages thread, if there is solution put a [SOLVED] tag in title or something, move solution to 1st topic,
And possible problems with solutions, that may a user come up..
Deleting off topic stuff, like what I m posting right now..
Or some "OMG! SOS! HELP" threads, that the solution was already answered.. (I ve created some of those )
Anyway.. It needs spending some time daily on the forum.. But we need our atrix mod..
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I'm gettting like 3000 in quadrant and 80-85 on multicore linpack
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If you guys believe the moderators are complacent then please bring your concerns to them. You don't need to run around in threads making smug comments when something is out of line - this is what the moderators are for.
Rather than running around and playing internet police, please use the Report To Moderator function. This will alert mods silently and without fanning any flames.
P.S. No one point out the irony in playing Mr. Internet Policeman myself! Damn you if you do! Just tired of the whining!!
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If you guys believe the moderators are complacent then please bring your concerns to them. You don't need to run around in threads making smug comments when something is out of line - this is what the moderators are for.
Rather than running around and playing internet police, please use the Report To Moderator function. This will alert mods silently and without fanning any flames.
P.S. No one point out the irony in playing Mr. Internet Policeman myself! Damn you if you do! Just tired of the whining!!
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only problem is that the 'report post' option has gotten more complicated, and you have to PM a specific mod in order to get anything done....
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though this is the wrong section, i was consistently getting 2700's and i maxed around 2850 in quadrant. i have the screenshots if proof is necessary. i also got high 70's in linpack multi-thread.
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i WAS getting this on the 1.8.3 froyo build. are you still getting it on the unlocked hktw?
i ran it a few more times and got a 2500 score
To show benchmarks you have to have a "benchmark" to compare to. Just throwing around Quadrant and whatever scores doesn't show or help anything. What is needed are before and after. You take a "benchmark" snapshot before, then do the same test after and compare results. Benchmarks in any industry/technology are the initial test data results. Anything you compare this to afterwards is not technically a benchmark until you determine it is better, and thus need to test the new "benchmark" against the next improvement to substantiate your results.