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[Q] HTC Wildfire S

I have just seen some wildfire s movies and the point is:
it's runneing gingerbread and it has a flip clock.
My question is: If the htc wildfire s has nearly the same things as the normal wildfire.
Can we (if the wildfire s is released) port gingerbread from the s version to ours.
Or will there be an update with the new sense and gingerbread.
Please could someone that know something about it say something to me, please.
And my second question is: Can someone already put the new sense in a rom.
I hope someone really know something about it.

guus_1995 said:
My question is: If the htc wildfire s has nearly the same things as the normal wildfire.
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It is not nearly the same. It is totally different. And, to get the new Sense, the code has to be released by HTC. Till that, there wont be a GB Sense Enabled ROM for the Wildfire.
Also, I am pretty sure with the release of the S, HTC will not conveniently forget the original Wildfire and probably not release any updates for it. Its basically an EOL Product now. Its the way the industry works.

After some monthes on the market every mobile phone is EOL. You are right!
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App

If you really want gingerbread on wildfire, you can try Cyanogen 7. There is no htc sense with cyanogen though.

Just for the new sense
argeoff said:
If you really want gingerbread on wildfire, you can try Cyanogen 7. There is no htc sense with cyanogen though.
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I know but I want the new sense xD

Its more like the aria or gratia (what is the point of that - considering the wildfire s is better) or legend or salsa than the wildfire (they are all the same phone in a different box with a different rom)
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CM 7
I'm using cm 7 right now.
It is very nice, but I've send a mail to HTC.
Hope they will answer.
I really like gingerbread, but I just want the new sense ( without buying a newer phone ).
So if I got mail about it.
Will you see it on this topic

guus_1995 said:
I'm using cm 7 right now.
It is very nice, but I've send a mail to HTC.
Hope they will answer.
I really like gingerbread, but I just want the new sense ( without buying a newer phone ).
So if I got mail about it.
Will you see it on this topic
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sorry but, you'll not get much out of them! Just a generalised response.

guus_1995 said:
I have just seen some wildfire s movies and the point is:
it's runneing gingerbread and it has a flip clock.
My question is: If the htc wildfire s has nearly the same things as the normal wildfire. -No, not the same hardware
Can we (if the wildfire s is released) port gingerbread from the s version to ours. -HVGA vs QVGA.... lots of resizing and xml, program modifying. And devs are not really interested
Or will there be an update with the new sense and gingerbread. - Not really with a spray of impossible
Please could someone that know something about it say something to me, please.
And my second question is: Can someone already put the new sense in a rom.
-I have not seen Sense 3.0 on a QVGA device, so low porting chances.
I hope someone really know something about it.
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blabla bla 10 chars

soory for this crappy thread
Hello people,
I'm using cm 7 right now.
This is a question to alex, I think that you know more about it.
So is it possible to port htc sense to cm7.
And so yes:How can I do it on my own.
So please answer.
edit ment normal sense.

It is possible to get the Gingerbread update but no way it would get the new Sense.

guus_1995 said:
Hello people,
I'm using cm 7 right now.
This is a question to alex, I think that you know more about it.
So is it possible to port htc sense to cm7.
And so yes:How can I do it on my own.
So please answer.
edit ment normal sense.
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No it's not possible to port anything HTC to an AOSP ROM, there is a theme though which makes it look like HTC Sense!

why not
djdevine2 said:
No it's not possible to port anything HTC to an AOSP ROM, there is a theme though which makes it look like HTC Sense!
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Why not.
I mean can not one app ported to a aosp rom?

Simply because HTC apps require a framework that AOSP ROMS do not have as it is power consuming and is slow.
guus_1995 said:
Why not.
I mean can not one app ported to a aosp rom?
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Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App

ok
djdevine2 said:
Simply because HTC apps require a framework that AOSP ROMS do not have as it is power consuming and is slow.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App
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that really sucks.
Is there any way to port something like a custom framework in a aosp or is this absolutly wrong question.
srry for my bad englisch

guus_1995 said:
that really sucks.
Is there any way to port something like a custom framework in a aosp or is this absolutly wrong question.
srry for my bad englisch
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Sadly the HTC framework is not compatible with AOSP ROMS at the ROMS have to support it. Your english is fine, don't worry!

djdevine2 said:
Sadly the HTC framework is not compatible with AOSP ROMS at the ROMS have to support it. Your english is fine, don't worry!
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Ok .
thank you anyway

guus_1995 said:
Ok .
thank you anyway
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As djdevine2 stated above, porting Sense would be very hard or even impossible. Sense is like a bug that crawls really deep inside the Android OS. Eliminating is it hard, I imagine introducing it would be also very, very hard.
And not to mention the possible Legal issues that could appear

maybe there is hope
It has also been rumored that the HTC Wildfire will receive the recently released 2.3 Gingerbread update.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Wildfire
This is just a rumor, but there is still hope.

Doesn't look so. If you look at the citation on that particular line, and, read that thread in another forum, there is nothing there to state that HTC has said anything about 2.3 on Wildfire. It is simply a speculative thread, and, points to CM7 for 2.3 on Wildfire.
"You can have your doubts about when your phone maker will finally get around to delivering an Android 2.3 update (March if you're with HTC, June if Samsung, 2017 if you're unfortunate enough to own a Sony Ericsson), but the smartphone dev community doesn't work that slowly. The guys who build custom ROMs just for the sheer pride of it have already begun work on delivering Gingerbread to owners of HTC's EVO 4G, Droid Eris, and Wildfire."

[Q] Honeycomb on Hero?

can anybody port the 3.0 honeycomb version to our beloved Hero?
they did it to the G1/Magic, here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RKEHfOwnSI&feature=player_embedded
any hope??

If there is a port to G1/Magic I guess that is possible a port to Hero..

RubenFreitas said:
If there is a port to G1/Magic I guess that is possible a port to Hero..
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there is a port, in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=936874

hiato said:
there is a port, in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=936874
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is this port working on hero ?

I would say try it.

rdejager said:
I would say try it.
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yea, let us know
it's certainly buildable for the hero - but most hardware will be broken I would imagine.

Sitting here, playing with an ugly port of the sdk, the first images,most just to remove my pin code so I can get into the system

yes elelinux!
do you think when the sources get released you would have much chance of building a full (or near full) working honeycomb rom?

sjknight413 said:
yes elelinux!
do you think when the sources get released you would have much chance of building a full (or near full) working honeycomb rom?
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I think it's possible, but it will not be easy. Especially because Honeycomb is made for tablets... and not for our phones.

If it's built from SDK I bet that almost none of the hardware is working...

mljjlm said:
If it's built from SDK I bet that almost none of the hardware is working...
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That is correct, but strangely all the backlighting of the buttons etc worked out of the box, buttons it is easy to fix if you want.
Just a little test for fun nothing else, also saw that there was support for mdpi so theoretically it could be working on Hero with some manual intervention.
Another thing to, boot up without problems

elelinux said:
That is correct, but strangely all the backlighting of the buttons etc worked out of the box, buttons it is easy to fix if you want.
Just a little test for fun nothing else, also saw that there was support for mdpi so theoretically it could be working on Hero with some manual intervention.
Another thing to, boot up without problems
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Wow, please make a rom for us to play with please. I cant believe the G1 has one and we dont.

maybe we are are asking too much on our hero....
but hey if it'll work then we shall have it
SENT FROM MY HTC HERO running GINGERBREAD by elelinux

elliotn said:
maybe we are are asking too much on our hero....
but hey if it'll work then we shall have it
SENT FROM MY HTC HERO running GINGERBREAD by elelinux
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????
the G1 is already running it!!!

hiato said:
????
the G1 is already running it!!!
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Yes but hardly anything is working! Even the Nexus one has no audio,wifi,bluetooth,calls!

Yes, it is foolish to ask for a ROM that's meant to run on tablets to be made for phones. But I never have never said and never will say no to a new ROM...
Sent from my Hero using XDA App

Yes it's going to run like ass and our screens won't do any good either.
But... as always, I'm eager to see what crazy stuff the ROM-people come up with.

but the sdk version includes some feature of switching from tablet to mobile mode by simply changing resolution... they won't have included it if it wasn't meant to be run on mobiles, and in 3.1, mobile (2.x) and tablet (3.0) development lines shall be joined (says wikipedia lol). moreover, lots of people out here said it would be impossible to run 2.2 and 2.3 on hero, and right now i'm looking at my rooted android 2.3 hero which is incredibly smooth and stable (way better than with stock os). so why shouldn't it be possible? ele just said even backlight of the buttons worked out of the box, which was not case in 2.x. i'm still believing in our developers (although i can't code well enough to support them ) and i'm sure they'll do some magic
greets, Summoner

Do you really use wikipedia for truths? Anyone can add to Wiki?!

no i don't... i just think it sounds possible... otherwise, there would be two future development lines which the consequence would be that there were VERY different features depending where more / the better devs work on lol^^
i didn't claim it was the absolute truth, otherwise i wouldn't have explicitly said it came from wiki ...
greets Summoner

Htc Sense

If we ever should get sense on our phone working. We have to need to work together. I now it is somebody who have begin to work on it, but they need a kernel developer. To get the rom booting. Sense with gingerbread. I think if the best developers here on the galaxy s forums. Good with kernels and other stuff. Then we can maybe got htc sense on our phones. I know that is difficult to port roms, special htc sense on a samsung phone. But it sound desperately out, but I`m that. Know that it is other people who really wan`t htc sense to.
Sorry for the bad english!

wesc7 said:
If we ever should get sense on our phone working. We have to need to work together. I now it is somebody who have begin to work on it, but they need a kernel developer. To get the rom booting. Sense with gingerbread. I think if the best developers here on the galaxy s forums. Good with kernels and other stuff. Then we can maybe got htc sense on our phones. I know that is difficult to port roms, special htc sense on a samsung phone. But it sound desperately out, but I`m that. Know that it is other people who really wan`t htc sense to.
Sorry for the bad english!
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I wish you'd make sense too.
Btw, wrong section ;p

efegue said:
I wish you'd make sense too.
Btw, wrong section ;p
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Ohh, sorry;p

I almost miss such posts =)

wesc7 said:
If we ever should get sense on our phone working. We have to need to work together. I now it is somebody who have begin to work on it, but they need a kernel developer. To get the rom booting. Sense with gingerbread. I think if the best developers here on the galaxy s forums. Good with kernels and other stuff. Then we can maybe got htc sense on our phones. I know that is difficult to port roms, special htc sense on a samsung phone. But it sound desperately out, but I`m that. Know that it is other people who really wan`t htc sense to.
Sorry for the bad english!
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You are totally right +1 !!

You know what i like htc sense but to have it on my fone thats just going to far just buy a htc fone if you want sense so much
sent from sgs gingerbread

why would anyone want htc sense ?

kidzwai said:
You know what i like htc sense but to have it on my fone thats just going to far just buy a htc fone if you want sense so much
sent from sgs gingerbread
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+1
Want Sense then buy a HTC
If only the TwLauncher of SGS wouldn't be laggy then it would be almost perfect...
Sent from my GALAXY S 2.3.3 using XDA App

Doubleshot; Sense 3.0

Hello,
this is a leaked Doubleshot rom who have sense 3.0;
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=AWXU7FO8
That who is interesting with this rom, is that the rom having the same resolution as galaxy s.
Got the link from here, in the desire hd forum; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1054291

And that the rom is the same resolution as the galaxy s means its compatible with it?
no

Meaning it can possibly be ported without the display issues... all the scaling down has been done already
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App

Guzmanus said:
And that the rom is the same resolution as the galaxy s means its compatible with it?
no
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No that is not what I meant. But then it is easier to port the rom, than if we should port a other sense 3.0 rom with a other resolution.

Guzmanus said:
And that the rom is the same resolution as the galaxy s means its compatible with it?
no
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Protip. Don't put a "cool" emoticon in your post when it's clearly a post that had no thought put into it.
As they stated above me it means we won't have to do any scaling to get it working on our devices. That was a major hurdle the team porting 3.0 to the DHD faced.

This is good news...but definitely did not deserve its own post in the Development section of all things.
I'm sure the GalaxySense team is already well aware of this.

Awesome...I hope the galaxysense devs can work their magic with this.
3.0 looks really nice.

dakine said:
Awesome...I hope the galaxysense devs can work their magic with this.
3.0 looks really nice.
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Yes, looks pretty nice

dakine said:
Awesome...I hope the galaxysense devs can work their magic with this.
3.0 looks really nice.
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Have more than enough to do ATM with 2.1....Maybe a Christmas present...

devs should focus on bringing stable sense rom to galaxy s first, then, it's easier to work on next version of sense...anyway, this is a great news, no need to scale it unlike the dump from sensation 4g...

Thread moved

sense 4 coming to htc hd2 new prot :D

i talk with mwakious and told me that he start the works about sense 4 after a custom rom that makes for htc flyer good news

nikolas60 said:
i talk with mwakious and told me that he start the works about sense 4 after a custom rom that makes for htc flyer good news
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Well, thus far nobody's succeeded with a full Sense 4 port and I doubt that mwakious will either. If I'm not mistaken, he's actually the same dev who posted in the Blackout thread that he had a working, booting port then never posted it. The wording 'he'll start working on it after finishing a Flyer custom ROM' is also quite indecisive. I sincerely hope I'm wrong, but I definitely don't have high hopes for this one.

Nigeldg said:
Well, thus far nobody's succeeded with a full Sense 4 port and I doubt that mwakious will either. If I'm not mistaken, he's actually the same dev who posted in the Blackout thread that he had a working, booting port then never posted it. The wording 'he'll start working on it after finishing a Flyer custom ROM' is also quite indecisive. I sincerely hope I'm wrong, but I definitely don't have high hopes for this one.
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just have to wait and see but its possible,im using this sense 4.1 on my desire http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1980122 so good base to use as hardware similar but will take time to do

TheiPhoneKiller said:
just have to wait and see but its possible,im using this sense 4.1 on my desire http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1980122 so good base to use as hardware similar but will take time to do
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I don't doubt it's possible (obviously the desire thread you've linked is a perfect example) but it's just that I don't have particularly high hopes for this particular rumour.

nikolas60 said:
i talk with mwakious and told me that he start the works about sense 4 after a custom rom that makes for htc flyer good news
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How is this good news for the HD2?
It's like saying "Hey, John Doe started working on porting Sense 5 to the Galaxy SIII"
I don't understand how this is relevant to the HD2.

Marvlesz said:
How is this good news for the HD2?
It's like saying "Hey, John Doe started working on porting Sense 5 to the Galaxy SIII"
I don't understand how this is relevant to the HD2.
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Mwakious was definitely a dev here but I think he also lied about his work. In the Blackout ICS thread he said that he had a fully working port and then disappeared from the thread entirely, and he also claimed that he had a HWA Sense 3.5 (i.e. GB) port which clearly wasn't true.

Nigeldg said:
Mwakious was definitely a dev here but I think he also lied about his work. In the Blackout ICS thread he said that he had a fully working port and then disappeared from the thread entirely, and he also claimed that he had a HWA Sense 3.5 (i.e. GB) port which clearly wasn't true.
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Even with that being said, having a developer making a port for a different device ( remember that the flyer is already a sense tablet) does not necessarily imply a port for the HD2.
So the OP went to the flyer section and read a WIP sense 4 for the flyer, I don't think this has anything to do with the HD2. Even if it is a work of the same developer.
IMO, this has nothing to do with the HD2 and the thread is useless because I am unable to find the "good news".
^I don't think I was clear, sorry .
(P.S. to nigel: Congrats on your green name, I wanted that, too )

GOD that is good news i cant wait

i think we have a bettor shot at seeing JB 5.0 before a sense 4.0 rom

yes my friend i fear you are right

Any idea for ETA ? An alpha version ''very soon' should be really appreciated

Gauss75 said:
Any idea for ETA ? An alpha version ''very soon' should be really appreciated
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yep and its dec 21st 2112