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[Q] HTC Wildfire S

I have just seen some wildfire s movies and the point is:
it's runneing gingerbread and it has a flip clock.
My question is: If the htc wildfire s has nearly the same things as the normal wildfire.
Can we (if the wildfire s is released) port gingerbread from the s version to ours.
Or will there be an update with the new sense and gingerbread.
Please could someone that know something about it say something to me, please.
And my second question is: Can someone already put the new sense in a rom.
I hope someone really know something about it.

guus_1995 said:
My question is: If the htc wildfire s has nearly the same things as the normal wildfire.
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It is not nearly the same. It is totally different. And, to get the new Sense, the code has to be released by HTC. Till that, there wont be a GB Sense Enabled ROM for the Wildfire.
Also, I am pretty sure with the release of the S, HTC will not conveniently forget the original Wildfire and probably not release any updates for it. Its basically an EOL Product now. Its the way the industry works.

After some monthes on the market every mobile phone is EOL. You are right!
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App

If you really want gingerbread on wildfire, you can try Cyanogen 7. There is no htc sense with cyanogen though.

Just for the new sense
argeoff said:
If you really want gingerbread on wildfire, you can try Cyanogen 7. There is no htc sense with cyanogen though.
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I know but I want the new sense xD

Its more like the aria or gratia (what is the point of that - considering the wildfire s is better) or legend or salsa than the wildfire (they are all the same phone in a different box with a different rom)
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CM 7
I'm using cm 7 right now.
It is very nice, but I've send a mail to HTC.
Hope they will answer.
I really like gingerbread, but I just want the new sense ( without buying a newer phone ).
So if I got mail about it.
Will you see it on this topic

guus_1995 said:
I'm using cm 7 right now.
It is very nice, but I've send a mail to HTC.
Hope they will answer.
I really like gingerbread, but I just want the new sense ( without buying a newer phone ).
So if I got mail about it.
Will you see it on this topic
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sorry but, you'll not get much out of them! Just a generalised response.

guus_1995 said:
I have just seen some wildfire s movies and the point is:
it's runneing gingerbread and it has a flip clock.
My question is: If the htc wildfire s has nearly the same things as the normal wildfire. -No, not the same hardware
Can we (if the wildfire s is released) port gingerbread from the s version to ours. -HVGA vs QVGA.... lots of resizing and xml, program modifying. And devs are not really interested
Or will there be an update with the new sense and gingerbread. - Not really with a spray of impossible
Please could someone that know something about it say something to me, please.
And my second question is: Can someone already put the new sense in a rom.
-I have not seen Sense 3.0 on a QVGA device, so low porting chances.
I hope someone really know something about it.
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blabla bla 10 chars

soory for this crappy thread
Hello people,
I'm using cm 7 right now.
This is a question to alex, I think that you know more about it.
So is it possible to port htc sense to cm7.
And so yes:How can I do it on my own.
So please answer.
edit ment normal sense.

It is possible to get the Gingerbread update but no way it would get the new Sense.

guus_1995 said:
Hello people,
I'm using cm 7 right now.
This is a question to alex, I think that you know more about it.
So is it possible to port htc sense to cm7.
And so yes:How can I do it on my own.
So please answer.
edit ment normal sense.
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No it's not possible to port anything HTC to an AOSP ROM, there is a theme though which makes it look like HTC Sense!

why not
djdevine2 said:
No it's not possible to port anything HTC to an AOSP ROM, there is a theme though which makes it look like HTC Sense!
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Why not.
I mean can not one app ported to a aosp rom?

Simply because HTC apps require a framework that AOSP ROMS do not have as it is power consuming and is slow.
guus_1995 said:
Why not.
I mean can not one app ported to a aosp rom?
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Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App

ok
djdevine2 said:
Simply because HTC apps require a framework that AOSP ROMS do not have as it is power consuming and is slow.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App
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that really sucks.
Is there any way to port something like a custom framework in a aosp or is this absolutly wrong question.
srry for my bad englisch

guus_1995 said:
that really sucks.
Is there any way to port something like a custom framework in a aosp or is this absolutly wrong question.
srry for my bad englisch
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Sadly the HTC framework is not compatible with AOSP ROMS at the ROMS have to support it. Your english is fine, don't worry!

djdevine2 said:
Sadly the HTC framework is not compatible with AOSP ROMS at the ROMS have to support it. Your english is fine, don't worry!
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Ok .
thank you anyway

guus_1995 said:
Ok .
thank you anyway
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As djdevine2 stated above, porting Sense would be very hard or even impossible. Sense is like a bug that crawls really deep inside the Android OS. Eliminating is it hard, I imagine introducing it would be also very, very hard.
And not to mention the possible Legal issues that could appear

maybe there is hope
It has also been rumored that the HTC Wildfire will receive the recently released 2.3 Gingerbread update.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Wildfire
This is just a rumor, but there is still hope.

Doesn't look so. If you look at the citation on that particular line, and, read that thread in another forum, there is nothing there to state that HTC has said anything about 2.3 on Wildfire. It is simply a speculative thread, and, points to CM7 for 2.3 on Wildfire.
"You can have your doubts about when your phone maker will finally get around to delivering an Android 2.3 update (March if you're with HTC, June if Samsung, 2017 if you're unfortunate enough to own a Sony Ericsson), but the smartphone dev community doesn't work that slowly. The guys who build custom ROMs just for the sheer pride of it have already begun work on delivering Gingerbread to owners of HTC's EVO 4G, Droid Eris, and Wildfire."

[Q] Honeycomb on Hero?

can anybody port the 3.0 honeycomb version to our beloved Hero?
they did it to the G1/Magic, here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RKEHfOwnSI&feature=player_embedded
any hope??

If there is a port to G1/Magic I guess that is possible a port to Hero..

RubenFreitas said:
If there is a port to G1/Magic I guess that is possible a port to Hero..
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there is a port, in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=936874

hiato said:
there is a port, in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=936874
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is this port working on hero ?

I would say try it.

rdejager said:
I would say try it.
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yea, let us know
it's certainly buildable for the hero - but most hardware will be broken I would imagine.

Sitting here, playing with an ugly port of the sdk, the first images,most just to remove my pin code so I can get into the system

yes elelinux!
do you think when the sources get released you would have much chance of building a full (or near full) working honeycomb rom?

sjknight413 said:
yes elelinux!
do you think when the sources get released you would have much chance of building a full (or near full) working honeycomb rom?
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I think it's possible, but it will not be easy. Especially because Honeycomb is made for tablets... and not for our phones.

If it's built from SDK I bet that almost none of the hardware is working...

mljjlm said:
If it's built from SDK I bet that almost none of the hardware is working...
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That is correct, but strangely all the backlighting of the buttons etc worked out of the box, buttons it is easy to fix if you want.
Just a little test for fun nothing else, also saw that there was support for mdpi so theoretically it could be working on Hero with some manual intervention.
Another thing to, boot up without problems

elelinux said:
That is correct, but strangely all the backlighting of the buttons etc worked out of the box, buttons it is easy to fix if you want.
Just a little test for fun nothing else, also saw that there was support for mdpi so theoretically it could be working on Hero with some manual intervention.
Another thing to, boot up without problems
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Wow, please make a rom for us to play with please. I cant believe the G1 has one and we dont.

maybe we are are asking too much on our hero....
but hey if it'll work then we shall have it
SENT FROM MY HTC HERO running GINGERBREAD by elelinux

elliotn said:
maybe we are are asking too much on our hero....
but hey if it'll work then we shall have it
SENT FROM MY HTC HERO running GINGERBREAD by elelinux
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????
the G1 is already running it!!!

hiato said:
????
the G1 is already running it!!!
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Yes but hardly anything is working! Even the Nexus one has no audio,wifi,bluetooth,calls!

Yes, it is foolish to ask for a ROM that's meant to run on tablets to be made for phones. But I never have never said and never will say no to a new ROM...
Sent from my Hero using XDA App

Yes it's going to run like ass and our screens won't do any good either.
But... as always, I'm eager to see what crazy stuff the ROM-people come up with.

but the sdk version includes some feature of switching from tablet to mobile mode by simply changing resolution... they won't have included it if it wasn't meant to be run on mobiles, and in 3.1, mobile (2.x) and tablet (3.0) development lines shall be joined (says wikipedia lol). moreover, lots of people out here said it would be impossible to run 2.2 and 2.3 on hero, and right now i'm looking at my rooted android 2.3 hero which is incredibly smooth and stable (way better than with stock os). so why shouldn't it be possible? ele just said even backlight of the buttons worked out of the box, which was not case in 2.x. i'm still believing in our developers (although i can't code well enough to support them ) and i'm sure they'll do some magic
greets, Summoner

Do you really use wikipedia for truths? Anyone can add to Wiki?!

no i don't... i just think it sounds possible... otherwise, there would be two future development lines which the consequence would be that there were VERY different features depending where more / the better devs work on lol^^
i didn't claim it was the absolute truth, otherwise i wouldn't have explicitly said it came from wiki ...
greets Summoner

First early Alpha boot of HTC Sense on an Nexus S

Its been done
apreichner has cracked it and booted it on the NS... Exciting times guys)))
Nothing works at the moment but its a great base, wander over to the Dev section and check the sense think tank page out.
Big big thanks to apreichner)
What a star and definitely worth an xda news slot
JD
Sent via my Google Devless Phone...

Nice! is it HTC Sense 3.0?
Edit: found the post. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12852186#post12852186

zephiK said:
Nice! is it HTC Sense 3.0?
Edit: found the post. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12852186#post12852186
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Not yet,
That's on the agenda though))
Now its booting it will be a matter of getting the kernel right, when that's right upgrading that to 3.0 should be a relative doddle
JD
Sent via my Google Devless Phone...

JupiterDroid said:
Not yet,
That's on the agenda though))
Now its booting it will be a matter of getting the kernel right, when that's right upgrading that to 3.0 should be a relative doddle
JD
Sent via my Google Devless Phone...
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that'll show them! (them being the people who said dev is dead)
i certainly don't think dev is dead at all.. its just Gingerbread is still in its early stages and honestly.. not many things need to be changed at all. most ROMs on various phone forums are just themed versions of the same ROM.

zephiK said:
that'll show them! (them being the people who said dev is dead)
i certainly don't think dev is dead at all.. its just Gingerbread is still in its early stages and honestly.. not many things need to be changed at all. most ROMs on various phone forums are just themed versions of the same ROM.
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Great call mate, totally agree now
JD
Sent via my Renewed Hope Device

can't wait for this. Been wanting to try sense for ages.

Doubleshot; Sense 3.0

Hello,
this is a leaked Doubleshot rom who have sense 3.0;
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=AWXU7FO8
That who is interesting with this rom, is that the rom having the same resolution as galaxy s.
Got the link from here, in the desire hd forum; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1054291

And that the rom is the same resolution as the galaxy s means its compatible with it?
no

Meaning it can possibly be ported without the display issues... all the scaling down has been done already
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Guzmanus said:
And that the rom is the same resolution as the galaxy s means its compatible with it?
no
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No that is not what I meant. But then it is easier to port the rom, than if we should port a other sense 3.0 rom with a other resolution.

Guzmanus said:
And that the rom is the same resolution as the galaxy s means its compatible with it?
no
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Protip. Don't put a "cool" emoticon in your post when it's clearly a post that had no thought put into it.
As they stated above me it means we won't have to do any scaling to get it working on our devices. That was a major hurdle the team porting 3.0 to the DHD faced.

This is good news...but definitely did not deserve its own post in the Development section of all things.
I'm sure the GalaxySense team is already well aware of this.

Awesome...I hope the galaxysense devs can work their magic with this.
3.0 looks really nice.

dakine said:
Awesome...I hope the galaxysense devs can work their magic with this.
3.0 looks really nice.
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Yes, looks pretty nice

dakine said:
Awesome...I hope the galaxysense devs can work their magic with this.
3.0 looks really nice.
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Have more than enough to do ATM with 2.1....Maybe a Christmas present...

devs should focus on bringing stable sense rom to galaxy s first, then, it's easier to work on next version of sense...anyway, this is a great news, no need to scale it unlike the dump from sensation 4g...

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Possible to port sense 4 from HTC Desire VT

I was hoping someone could answer a question I have about the possibility of porting from the Desire VT. Both share the same Adreno 200 GPU and also share other similiar traits like being the same pixel size. From older posts I remember people saying it would be more easy to port from one phone to another if the GPU was the same and if the size was similiar so it wouldn't need to be resized. If this is indeed true wouldn't the Desire VT make the best choice to have a working port of sense 4 to our HD2? If anyone can shed some light on this I would greatly appreciate it. Below are some specs of the two devices. Thanks in advance.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_desire_vt-4830.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_hd2-2957.php

Its not the graphics, or the pixel size. We had working acceleration, from what i have heard its Chipset drivers that are the issue so sound and other things will be impossible to port. but i dont know much on the VT to say much about porting from *that* phone
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Actually this will have had the same issues in porting if not more. I am 100% sure unless we have gods for devs that can create libs from nothing

Yeah I recall that not having any libs was the issue the developers was running into. I only thought that since they share the same Adreno 200 GPU that maybe it could allow for a 'slightly' easier port. Also I seen a post here on XDA somewhere and if I remember it correctly a developer "claimed" to have sense 4.0 fully working but was to busy to post further details and said they would after their current project was over. Yes I know it seemed like b.s. but I was still holding onto a bit if hope. lol.

Team Blackouts was the only one that wound up booting, there was another working on it but couldnt boot it up, the phone i believe off the top of my head was the One V which also shares the Adreno 200 or similar specs but yea its all in the Chipset as to where we would get on sense 4.x

Yes I had followed both threads very close. Actually the HTC One V has Adreno 205. Unfortunately for us the QSD8250 Snapdragon chipset thats on the HD2 seems to not been used in quite some time. Plus the HTC Desire as well as the Nexus One, both of which are very closely related to our phone have stopped receiving updates. UHGG!! It was wishful thinking anyway.
I'll just need to cave in and try to get a HTC Desire X. Since its going to be a rather budget friendly phone it looks as though this is my best option to have sense 4. I hope they release it in the states as well though.

i started working on it today...
give me some time to look at it.....:highfive:
edit: this is adreno 200 ,this good

In desire vt thread is written "also included are Device specific files for BravoC, Leo & Passion"
Is leo our hd2?

Yeah it is. Aren't bravo and passion both the Desire? Slightly confused about that bit.

jandeltron said:
In desire vt thread is written "also included are Device specific files for BravoC, Leo & Passion"
Is leo our hd2?
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Could you send me the link to the Desire VT thread? I couldn't seem to find one for it. As someone already answered the HTC HD2 is in fact also called the HTC Leo.

Nigeldg said:
Yeah it is. Aren't bravo and passion both the Desire? Slightly confused about that bit.
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afaik bravo is the desire, passion is the nexus1.

Nigeldg said:
Yeah it is. Aren't bravo and passion both the Desire? Slightly confused about that bit.
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The Nexus One (codenamed HTC Passion)
cdma Desire/ BravoC

htccraze said:
Could you send me the link to the Desire VT thread? I couldn't seem to find one for it. As someone already answered the HTC HD2 is in fact also called the HTC Leo.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1858491

Thanks but I was thinking the Desire VT had its own thread. This is a link to the Desire thread with a port of the Desire VT ROM. Its actually what I came across that made me think it would be possible for our phones to work too. Then when I looked at the specs I thought it might of been our best shot at a working sense 4.0 ROM.

So if i install the desire vt zip it will work, or not?

It will not. mwakious said that they will look into it so please be patient since this can take quite a while to do. When porting a ROM there are
several files that needs to be replaced. Even then there can be many things that could cause it to not boot correctly. Check back in a few days.

htccraze said:
It will not. mwakious said that they will look into it so please be patient since this can take quite a while to do. When porting a ROM there are
several files that needs to be replaced. Even then there can be many things that could cause it to not boot correctly. Check back in a few days.
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this sound's good i'd love to try this on my hd2 hoping its gets better than the blackout one

is any one still working on this

GODISMYCOPILOT said:
is any one still working on this
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you cant be serious
heres how to get ics sense 4.0 really quick
sell your hd2 and buy a phone with ics sense 4 on it

Kameirus said:
you cant be serious
heres how to get ics sense 4.0 really quick
sell your hd2 and buy a phone with ics sense 4 on it
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im only asking 'if' as it seem'd to no update

In all honesty Its not likely it will work for our HD2 but I was thinking since the GPU was the same it might be a little easier for a developer to give it a go. Easier still suggests
its going to be a pretty big undertaking so please be patient. Even if it doesn't work out I think people should still thank mwakious for the time he's looked into it for us.