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Of these 3 latest tabs, I think we have the best deal owning the Acer. I been trying to keep up on both Asus' and Xoom forums. Looks like the Acer has the least amount of bugs.
Both Xoom and Transformer continue to have bugs even after many updates. The only known bug that I think is real problem for Acer is the wake on sleep but that should be fixed with the update.
Im here in Cali and never got the update, but I don't have that problem
Thanks Acer

If knew "for sure" the update would fix the sleep issue, I would buy one again now (for the third time). Since I do not even trust myself, I will wait and see.

I keep recommending the Acer to people in other forums who are looking for a honeycomb tablet, but they all crow about Acer having a bad track record and the fact that it's not the thinnest and lightest device on the market. I'd much rather have USB host support and no bugs vs. thinnest and lightest with glitches, personally.

That's the problem with spec-sheet monkeys...
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That all said, the sleep mode issue is a pretty dag-burn big bug and glitch. If it really gets fixed, cool- I will buy another, since I agree it's the best total cost alternative for features and function.

I actually prefer waiting longer for a fully functioning 3.1 update. That Xoom is a mess and looks to be worse after their 3.1 update.
Transformer has had numerous Asus updates that tend to maybe make things worse for it. I think the only thing it has going for it is the IPS screen, but really, are you going to be viewing your Acer at 178 degrees? no. Our screen is fine, especiallly when you get some awesome wallpaper going on there.
But, yes, I know it sounds like this is another "I love my Acer Thread".
I just want people to notice that our Acer is by far, no where near as buggy as the Transformer and Xoom, other than the standard Honeycomb issues.

The reason why I think it might fix the sleep issue, from another forum:
"some info for you:
Below are the most important product improvements listed being covered by this update, which will further enrich the overall user experience;
1. Bluetooth Keyboard support added (currently for English language mapping only)
1. Touch panel performance improvement
1. G-sensor calibration
1. Fix for A500 turning off and on in sleep mode (Screen turning off and on when asleep?)
Firmware version change after FOTA update:
1.016.05_EMEA_GEN1 --> 1.139.05_EMEA_GEN1
Countries covered by EMEA_GEN1:
UK / France / Italy / Spain
This update will also become available for the other countries soon, but as the exact release schedule is not fully available yet we are not able to provide you with any reliable release date at this moment."
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chay03 said:
I actually prefer waiting longer for a fully functioning 3.1 update. That Xoom is a mess and looks to be worse after their 3.1 update.
Transformer has had numerous Asus updates that tend to maybe make things worse for it. I think the only thing it has going for it is the IPS screen, but really, are you going to be viewing your Acer at 178 degrees? no. Our screen is fine, especiallly when you get some awesome wallpaper going on there.
But, yes, I know it sounds like this is another "I love my Acer Thread".
I just want people to notice that our Acer is by far, no where near as buggy as the Transformer and Xoom, other than the standard Honeycomb issues.
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Although I agree in principle, I've never owned a Transformer or Xoom so couldn't say from experience. But having poked my head into both forums over the last month or so, I do feel confident in having gone with the Iconia in that, it seems to me, there are far more 'troubled' users on the other forums than this one.
The lack of head-to-head Transformer vs Iconia reviews (that are granular and don't grant value to specs alone) are few and far between - and of those there are, they focus too much on specs and first impressions, not on enough on the full experience.
The Iconia would most certainly take the crown. But the Iconia is the less popular option, however, due mostly to misinformation and whatever hang-ups people have against the brand itself. I can't deny it's a solid user experience, with what I would refer to as 'basic' functions that all tablets should have for a price point that sets the bar - above and beyond.

chay03 said:
Of these 3 latest tabs, I think we have the best deal owning the Acer. I been trying to keep up on both Asus' and Xoom forums. Looks like the Acer has the least amount of bugs.
Both Xoom and Transformer continue to have bugs even after many updates. The only known bug that I think is real problem for Acer is the wake on sleep but that should be fixed with the update.
Im here in Cali and never got the update, but I don't have that problem
Thanks Acer
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What xoom bugs are you referring to? I've owned both at the same time for several days all the xoom bugs I experienced were also apparent with the Iconia.
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chay03 said:
I actually prefer waiting longer for a fully functioning 3.1 update.
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I assume everyone has already seen this? (Acer getting 3.1 in June)
http://tech2.in.com/news/tablets/asus-and-acer-tablets-to-get-android-31-update-in-june/219952

chay03 said:
The reason why I think it might fix the sleep issue, from another forum:
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Not seeing "US" or "NA" anywhere though....
Thanks, none the less. Where is the source for the info?
Thanks!

lrs421 said:
What xoom bugs are you referring to? I've owned both at the same time for several days all the xoom bugs I experienced were also apparent with the Iconia.
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I can't say exactly. Im just gathering my info from lurking in the other forums. Honeycomb on 10" tablets to compare within the forums.
I have only had my Acer. I played with the Transformer in Frys but my thought was that the transitions scrolling was noticeably slower than Acer. A coworker had the Xoom and took it back to BB within 4 hours. In his case, I think it was more Android related than the hardware itself. He walked out with the Ipad2.
Some of us don't have the time or maybe even the extra cash to make side-by-side comparisons. im just saying, in my opinion from what i read, It seems the others are more problematic than the Acer. Yes, the Acer has its own issues, but for the most part, I think our issues are more bareable than lets say, the Transformer dock not charging, or the Xoom Sd slot not recoginizing.
I almost took back my Acer to get the Transformer (being cheap to save$50). I am thankful I didn't.

chay03 said:
I can't say exactly. Im just gathering my info from lurking in the other forums. Honeycomb on 10" tablets to compare within the forums.
I have only had my Acer. I played with the Transformer in Frys but my thought was that the transitions scrolling was noticeably slower than Acer. A coworker had the Xoom and took it back to BB within 4 hours. In his case, I think it was more Android related than the hardware itself. He walked out with the Ipad2.
Some of us don't have the time or maybe even the extra cash to make side-by-side comparisons. im just saying, in my opinion from what i read, It seems the others are more problematic than the Acer. Yes, the Acer has its own issues, but for the most part, I think our issues are more bareable than lets say, the Transformer dock not charging, or the Xoom Sd slot not recoginizing.
I almost took back my Acer to get the Transformer (being cheap to save$50). I am thankful I didn't.
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I understand where you’re coming from and I do think the Acer is great too but these threads tend to be a little one sided (it is in the Acer forum afterall ). While I’m not accusing you of doing this many people in threads like this are just simply trying to justify their purchases. When I purchased my Gtablet a few weeks ago I was trying to convince myself upgrading to anything else would be a waste of money, I did the same when I purchased the Acer (I still feel as if they’re great in their price range). I don’t have lots of excess cash either but I was fortunate enough to play with the Gtablet, Acer and Xoom side by side for several days. I too watched all the forums closely and saw the dev frustration with the Acer and one who returned his after bricking it. In the end I chose the Xoom and decided the $150.00 premium was worth it for these reasons:
1) Working recovery. If you brick the Acer right now you have no way to return to US factory stock without sending it to Acer.
2) Dev support, while this may have to do with time in the market place the Xoom forum offered more possibilities right now, I realize this may change.
3) Accessories. This may seem trivial but it was important to me. Googling the word “Xoom” brought back a myriad of custom accessories like docks, car chargers and multiple cases.
4) Proven manufacturer support. When the Moto got 3.1 on launch that showed me that both Google and Moto were committed to keeping this product up to date. The jury is still out on what Acer is going to do beyond 3.1. I’m certain the Xoom will live on (well atleast for 18 months ).
5) The screen, don’t get me wrong, the Xoom screen isn’t stellar but the grid lines on the Acer drove me nuts, damn OCD!!
There are a few things I miss about the Acer, fully functional USB support being one of them. After owning virtually all of these devices though I have come to the conclusion that the perfect tab doesn’t exist. I really thought I was going to keep the Acer long term but in end the end I chose otherwise. Don’t get me wrong, I still believe that the Acer has lots of potential and will be a tough tab to beat once/if the source is released and we get a working recovery. I may be back if they do.
One more thing, the Xoom issues I mostly experienced were and are honeycomb issues. Running a customer kernel makes the xoom an absolute monster (IMO). You’ll read about more problems simply because more people have it and it’s been rooted and torn apart which opens the door to other stuff….

points well taken.
You wanted something more and paid the premium. I couldn't pay that much more as I would not want to root mine. I was in the market for a glorified Internet tablet and this is good enough. I too had the G-Tablet and sold it the next day.
Bottom line, Xoom works great for you, Acer works great for me.

chay03 said:
Bottom line, Xoom works great for you, Acer works great for me.
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Couldn't have said it better my self

having just looked at all 3, watching quite a few reviews, and lurking the same 3 forums for the past week, i finally bought one of them.
the transformer.
reasoning is, i've seen less complaints from them, the complaints that are there in general are more niggles about little things. also, it seems that asus' support is more involved in getting things updated. they've already received 4+ OTAs to update software, fix bugs, and remedy general problems.
granted, it does have its share of problems, but i spoke with my money, and bought the one that i felt was the best all around and grabbed the asus.

own the Acer and the transformer. Am on the second transformer and both suffer build quality issues.
Light bleed is noticeable when viewiong in the dark even at lowest brightness settigns. Also there is some flex or creak in the case.
The quality of the screen however is much richer.
The annoying alignment grid pattern of the pixels on the iconia bothers me because I usually view with it about 1 foot away and for them to not be noticeable to my eye s I need to hold the tablet more like 18 inches away.
Transformer is warmer and sharper without the grid appearance even at 6 inches away. Also off axis viewing is nicer on the transformer and I love the dock concept for extra battery life and more productivity etc while giving the adde dports for when I need them.
My Acer has been solid with only software glitches and 1 tiny dust spec under the screen but seems built more solid.
It ios thicker and heavier though and battery life is apparently a bit shorter but have not made a comparison myself.
Decisions decisions.....if i had no lightbleed hands down the transformer is better tablet for me but the iconia seems built better. I don't need a usb port on the tab if I have a keyboard dock. sure I i want access to an external HD on my tablet the usb port is ice, but chances are if I did I would want access to the dock anyway for the added battery life or the keyboard for creation work

lrs421 said:
One more thing, the Xoom issues I mostly experienced were and are honeycomb issues. Running a customer kernel makes the xoom an absolute monster (IMO). You’ll read about more problems simply because more people have it and it’s been rooted and torn apart which opens the door to other stuff….
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My primary buying point isn't how customizable the tablet is (it's a factor sure, but a tiny one). No, the most important factor for me is the Out Of the Box experience. I still haven't made my choice yet, but I've been into the store several times and spent time playing with each of the Xoom, Transformer, and Iconia, and so far for me, the Iconia has the better OOB experience.
From outset, it just does MORE than the other two can do and that's an important factor because 95% of people who buy a tablet will not be rooting it.

FloatingFatMan said:
My primary buying point isn't how customizable the tablet is (it's a factor sure, but a tiny one). No, the most important factor for me is the Out Of the Box experience. I still haven't made my choice yet, but I've been into the store several times and spent time playing with each of the Xoom, Transformer, and Iconia, and so far for me, the Iconia has the better OOB experience.
From outset, it just does MORE than the other two can do and that's an important factor because 95% of people who buy a tablet will not be rooting it.
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I'm not sure I agree with you about oob experience. The Acer and moto were pretty even in that regard, the grid lines were pretty bad IMO. Without tweaking though the edge goes to the iconia because of cost. 95% of the general public won't consider rooting but 95% of xda'rs will.
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Out of the box the asus was the best. It has dlna and cloud storage. It has built in remote desktop functionalityand it has the best office suite available.
For those that prefer produtivity the dock with keyboard is a definite plus.
I think of these three as a spectrum. Xoom is best built but screen is so so and it is most costly.
Iconia offers all the xoom does in a more affordable package. So i see no reason to get a xoom unless you want knowledge that google will always be supporting and updating its reference tablet.
Asus offers best value and modular configuratioon giving laptop ornetbook functionality. It has the nicest screen so far on a honeycomb tablet as well. Its only drawbackright now is lack of supply and some build quality issues which might be related.
Samsung sounds like it wants to be the ipad of android tablets. For those that dont carle about expansion it will be lightest and thinnest design. But it will carry xoom pricing for the wifi model.
For the masses it will likely be the most populari option as i suspect most tablet buyers want an ipad but dont want to be tied to apple and itunes and want flash in their browsers.

Is the Xoom worth purchasing?

Recently I was waiting til the new Samsung Galaxy tab was officially announced to see if it would come with sd card and/or usb....which it didnt so now i dont know what i want...I dont want to acer iconia because it just looks ugly...and same thing for the transformer...they both just look like ugly devices to me..so my only other pick is the Moto Xoom which i actually like the way it looks. But is the Xoom worth the purchase...i hear its a lil slow and jerky...has the 3.1 update fixed that issue?? and does the sd card slot work now??

I own a XOOM and my brother has a Transformer. While I agree them Xoom looks better and is more sturdy, I'd much rather the transformer. The included keyboard is a big plus, as well as the built in usb otg connection.
Edit - forgot to mention how very unimpressed everyone outside of the US is with Moto and its approach to updating the Xoom. Also, not a squawk about why its taking so long.

I think you should just go with what you like. The xoom has a keyboard case now. And as for Moto, updates will come when they come. Most people have rooted and updated anyway. There is plenty of support on XDA for whatever you get. You could always wait and see what comes out in the next few months. Newer processors, different screens, and even support from software companies. Remember you dont have to rush, take your time and make decisions you will be happy with.

But is the XOOM still laggy?? and for rooted users are there good roms out that take full advantage of the processors?

Well, thanks to brd, I've got my xoom overclocked and running stable at 1.7 and I have to say with the 3.1 upgrade, even at stock speeds the xoom is smoooooth as silk. I had the iconia and promptly returned it as the bootloader is locked, and the still have released no source code. Full custom roms won't come till I cream sandwich with any android tablet, as Google won't release the honeycomb source code. But owning a xoom, I am pretty sure it will be one of the first to get the upgrade, just as it was the first with 3.1

jase33 said:
I think you should just go with what you like. The xoom has a keyboard case now. And as for Moto, updates will come when they come. Most people have rooted and updated anyway. There is plenty of support on XDA for whatever you get. You could always wait and see what comes out in the next few months. Newer processors, different screens, and even support from software companies. Remember you dont have to rush, take your time and make decisions you will be happy with.
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Well said, I completely agree. The Xoom is the best tablet for "me" and I've owned a few.
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I've had mine for two weeks, I absolutely love it. I have no idea why people are so down on it! I had the acer iconia for a week beforehand, the body was pulling apart, the screen was awful and the shape was just... odd. I trust motorola to make quality products, not just software, that was a huge plus for me. As for the USB and SD card, with google music out now, are you really going to put 32+ gigs worth of info on your tablet?
I use mine for college text books, email, surfing, file transfer, etc and have yet to be even close to disappointed. I don't have any experience with the transformer, but given my experience with a less than quality build of the acer, I would be worried about the quality of the asus as well, just my two cents.

freddyfromutah said:
I've had mine for two weeks, I absolutely love it. I have no idea why people are so down on it! I had the acer iconia for a week beforehand, the body was pulling apart, the screen was awful and the shape was just... odd. I trust motorola to make quality products, not just software, that was a huge plus for me. As for the USB and SD card, with google music out now, are you really going to put 32+ gigs worth of info on your tablet?
I use mine for college text books, email, surfing, file transfer, etc and have yet to be even close to disappointed. I don't have any experience with the transformer, but given my experience with a less than quality build of the acer, I would be worried about the quality of the asus as well, just my two cents.
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Yes, actually the 32 gig expansion would be awesome. I don't want to be forced into paying for Google music just to have a good list of music access able. Then on top of that pay verizon for the data transfer to listen to my own music. I know I can root for it, but initially I wasn't going to root till after the 4g upgrade. I'm rather disappointed, maybe I confused myself expecting to have the SD work soon, and having 4g before any other tablet, but I'm pretty sure I was just mislead.
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The great thing about the Xoom is the AOSP experience. It's unfettered Android. All the other devices have each respective company's own flavor of Android which is something I, and many others hate. As with other devices that are AOSP, it will probably get all the updates much sooner than other devices.
When the Xoom came out I was determined to get it, because I'm a tech-whore and needed to have a device with Honeycomb. When I finally got around to purchasing the Wifi version upon it's release, I found myself wondering what exactly I was going to do with this thing...I couldn't figure it out. Now I use it all the time. I don't regret spending the $600 one bit.

had the Xoom for 5 days now, was a little aprehensive with what I'd read about the screen and lag but I'm so glad I took the plunge. I'm running 3.1 stock on an untouched Xoom, I have no issues with lag and everything is super smooth. I wanted it for surfing, games, comics and video and it is fantastic at these. I'd been using my wife's Ipad for a while and the Xoom just knocks the spots of it in all areas.

The slow and jerky performance is still here, but that appears to extend to ALL honeycomb tablets. Also, this only happens in portrait and upside down orientations. Absolutely no choppiness in my experience with a static background in regular landscape.
Try it for yourself... 0 deg is completely smooth. 180, 90, -90 are all choppy. Do yourself a favor and only use I in native orientation, heh.
Aside from that minor niggle, honeycomb, and the xoom as a whole, are absolute dreams. Coming from a particular competing product, as well as two hacked Android tablets, I can say that the xoom is the first time I've been satisfied with the tablet concept.
Buy one; you won't regret it. After all, you can always return it if you're not crazy about it.
PS. With bigrushdog's kernel, you can use SD.

Absolutely avoid the Xoom. Unless you enjoy paying too much, no updates at all, lack of support, non-functional hardware, etc.
It's incredibly heavy and bulky. The touch screen is not too responsive, and theres significant motion blur, notably on red.
It's also very slow. For my money you'd be better off waiting for quad core tablets. These phone processors simply can't cut it on a larger screen.
Not to mention the Xoom 2 leak.
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I say... avoid everything with android 3.0 and beware of 3.1 tablets. why? because there are only about 40 apps that are optimized for honeycomb...optimized not full supported. Its strange for me that big companies arent excited about supporting tablet format (maybe the fact that we are only %0.3 of the users). Also the games that are suppossed optimized for tegra 2 are old apps from the ipad with a little light effects or glom ,etc. but the gameplay still laggy as in the ipad.
Also i like to say that the 3.1 update is a kick in the balls for users and devs. I purchased every game that it has come out from gameloft and they stop wrking after the update, only asphalt 6 after a patch gameloft send me. >Then they send me a link that they werent responsible for faulty updates...and they are right. I downloaded xmen arcade and it happens the same. try reset, hardreset and everything and nothing, support told me to wait for them to fix it or wait for google to fix it...its just the update that messed with games and apps.
My advice if you still going to buy....buy the transformer, they give you more for the money and your not missing anything the xoom have.

If your trying to get into the android tablets, then I would say the Xoom is very nice or the transformer has a attachment to a key bored, How I went on of buying one was I was comparing it to the iPad 2 and I'm a sucker when it comes to lil features like the camera Is way better on the Xoom (Front and Back) The stereo speaker is also a major plus, I like how to plug it to my TV all I needed was a 8$ Mini hdmi wire, Pretty sleek body, the 32gigs of space is plenty I can't seem to even fill 5Gigs of space, Idk why people are crying for the SD slot so much, Just root it and install the kernal, No hacking is required for the Xoom just get what you want and be done. My own thing I don't like about android in general, is their apps. but its w/e
also on the new 3.1, there is next to no lag or you can hack it and make it speedier its all up to you.

Thanks I think i'm going to pick up the Xoom soon! Man Samsung ALMSOT had me sold....they always seem to **** SOMETHING up...its like they can't have their cookie and eat it too, something always have to give....**** they better start eating them cookies lol.. Oh well XOOM it is..

Oh yes, definitely!
Had mine for almost 3 weeks and for me, this is the best $600 investment I've done. Touch screen response is excellent, I have yet to experience any lags and it feels (in regards to quality and workmanship) every bit as I expected it to be. In some aspects, it has even surpassed my expectations in performance and battery life! Not regretting in any sense the money spent and all the accessories I got for it (leather portfolio case, car charger, mini HDMI cable).
At work, I had the opportunity to play with iPads, iPads 2, Playbooks and I do not regret my decision to go with the Xoom. Everything I need to do I can do with it, that was one of the considerations I made while "checking out" all the alternatives out there and I'm really happy with the end result. Using it daily for EVERYTHING, it complements my HTC G2 phone perfectly and can't hardly put it down.
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The xoom is a great device but I don't like that there are two types of screens, neither of which are as good as the in-plane switching TFT design or the PLS in the new samsungs. Vertical viewing angles on the xoom are subpar, especially for the price point, in my opinion.
The light leakage issues on all these tablets is also a concern of mine and seems to be directly related to QC issues with the panel manufacturers.
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Im on week 3. This Xoom wifi is my first tablet but I played with them all and liked the xoom better. I love it. I think the market will come with time. Devs are starting to get into honeycomb. There are a few software quirks with exchange 2003 and FB,for instance, for me, but I have no lag at all and I love this machine.
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This $500 Xoom sales is still ticking..
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250829943160

If you are in the US, then maybe.
Otherwise avoid Xoom at all cost.
Also if you don't mind paying overpriced device with non functioning hardware and promised hardware upgrade which is not happened after couple of months.
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Recently I was waiting til the new Samsung Galaxy tab was officially announced to see if it would come with sd card and/or usb....which it didnt so now i dont know what i want...I dont want to acer iconia because it just looks ugly...and same thing for the transformer...they both just look like ugly devices to me..so my only other pick is the Moto Xoom which i actually like the way it looks. But is the Xoom worth the purchase...i hear its a lil slow and jerky...has the 3.1 update fixed that issue?? and does the sd card slot work now??
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How happy are you and issues you have noticed.

So im thinking about getting the transformer because of its keyboard dock (origanly had gotten the atrix for the same reason turned out to be crap).
How happy are you?
How is the performance?
What issues have you noticed?
is it worth it?

I got mines on Thursday. I'm happy with it.
Performance is very snappy and responsive.
Issues? Not really any issues that I've experienced but from what I've been hearing from the XDA forums is about its build quality. I got mines from Newegg because I've always had good experiences from Newegg.
One issue was that when I got it and 3.1 was stated in notifications and I wasn't able to flash the OTA until it was 50%+ even when the tablet was charged, the tablet didn't do the installation UNTIL it was 50%+ charged.
My biggest complaint is the USB cable. You can't charge it from the computer and the cable is pretty short. But you can workaround this by buying a USB3 A Male to A Female.
Fast delivery, low-prices and its build quality is perfect.

got mine June 1st.
Performance is great, very smooth and slick.
Apps look great on the IPS screen.
After a bit of fiddling I have it seeing all my network shares.
Internet is great on the Transformer.
Very slight light bleed but nothing worth returning it for.
Left speaker is a bit quieter than the right. Waiting for Asus to
release a patch hopefully, dont want to root it yet.
I have the dock and have found the dock battery drains quickly,
but the tablet battery lasts for 2 days easily with moderate to heavy use.
over all, very pleased.

hmmm i have been considering which tablet to buy transformer or galaxy tab dont want any of thoose 7 inchers.

I read all the bad stories here on XDA before I got mine and almost wished I hadn't purchased it... after I got it, all those fears went away. It's aa GREAT device.
The only issue I have with it is the stock browser. It's really nice but the poor performance it gives makes it a joke. Opera has been pretty good... only complaint with it is you can't fully change your user agent so sites like Facebook and Google look like junk. I'm guessing ICS may fix these issues, if we don't get a fix sooner.
I, too, ordered mine from Newegg. I have no creaking or dust. a little light bleed but it isn't anything to complain about. Overall, my device feels very solid and, IMO DOES NOT feel cheap, as some have said. My serial number starts with B5, I read that's the batch number... so they may have fixed some of the issues from the early batches.
Finally, I wrote this entire post on my TF with Opera and Thumb Keyboard. HIGHLY RECOMMEND the TF.

I am extremely happy,
Coming over from using the iPad 2, I was 50/50 about the tablet,
As the Market was really good for this I thought even if I didn't like it I could always sell it on,
But after a day of use it turned into my number one choice,
Can't fault it on anything really,
The browser I tend to use with flash switch off so it's really smooth and switches pages with ease,
Only thing I would like to see is a way to cancel the previous open windows on the desktop but this is more a google thing and nothing to do with the Asus...
I didn't buy the dock with my one as I don't see myself ever using it,
I will most likely buy the other dock and sd/USB adapter once release...

I'm pretty happy all said and done. The only light bleed I notice is where the virtual buttons are always located making it not a very big deal, imo.

I am happy with my transformer. I got it from Amazon a few weeks ago. I am having one issue... the internet browser keeps closing on me and i have the light bleed. But its not bad.

I got a TF from the first batch of shipments and it has been working flawlessly for me ever since. I have absolutely no light bleed and as far as creaky noises go, I don't squeeze my $400+ investments hard enough to test them for such.
The speakers have worked flawlessly for me ever since I got it, which was before the 3.1 update. The browser is remarkable for a tablet and the keyboard is epic.
The one issue that I have is the USB charger. It's waaay to short, but it's not really that big of a deal to me.
Oh and btw, someone earlier said you can't charge via your computer usb. That's not true, it does charge just at a very, very slow rate unless you have usb 3.0 on your pc (that's how it is for all tablets I assume, since they just require a lot more power than a normal cell).
In all, if you imagine yourself using the functionality of the keyboard, such as the extended battery life, the keypad, usb port and sd card AND you don't want to burn a whole in your wallet, then the TF is a no brainer.
If your looking for something that mindless zombies will consider "aesthetically pleasing" but can do with less functionality and more $$$$$ then get the Galaxy Tab 10.1 or even the Ipad 2 (preferably galaxy just because it's android )

I'm very disappointed with it's video playback. But other than that. Since rooting and fixing the right sided audio issue it's great. I just wish they would fix video playback and it would be close to perfection.

Thanks guys. I will looking to buying at best buy dont like shoppong on line for electronics... I have this where if it doesnt work i will be on my way back to best buy. Im considering the transforner becuase of the keyboard. I had orginally bought the atrix because of the lapdock but that phone turned out to be a huge fail. Now i have a infuse 4g and considering the transformer. How bad is the light bleed? And do you think new ones got fixed?
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Transformer27 said:
So im thinking about getting the transformer because of its keyboard dock (origanly had gotten the atrix for the same reason turned out to be crap).
How happy are you?
How is the performance?
What issues have you noticed?
is it worth it?
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Very happy, when i'm browsing most pages load faster than i can blink.
As well as 3 buddies i been very fortunate, none of us has had any issues, i surpose we got ours from Asus, all others on here are made in Brazil.
Of course it's worth it! you can do more with it than any other tablet, it's built the same as any other tablet, and it's cheaper
The only thing it doesn't do is help with spelling!

acid123 said:
I am extremely happy,
I will most likely buy the other dock and sd/USB adapter once release...
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what "other dock?"

onfire4g05 said:
Opera has been pretty good... only complaint with it is you can't fully change your user agent so sites like Facebook and Google look like junk. I'm guessing ICS may fix these issues, if we don't get a fix sooner.
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I've done the steps listed at this url: http://www.articlecms.in/3691-how-to-run-opera-mobile-in-full-desktop-mode.html on my captivate and it works great. Hopefully it works for your transformer.
" In the browser address bar type opera:config
Scroll down to User preferences and click on it
Scroll to custom user agent
Type this into the text box Opera/9.80 (Linux; en) Presto/2.7.81 Version/11.00
Click save
Restart the app"

I am very pleased - no issues, snappy performance, generally exceeds all my expectations.
Are the speakers great? - of course not, what do you expect from something the size of an ant's eye. Are they tolerable for general use? - of course
Only thing I am (patiently) waiting for, is Netflix and Cisco group authentication VPN.
One thing you need to think about. THIS IS NOT A PC! Trying to duplicate your PC work activities will leave you feel lacking. If you adapt your work activities to the (mostly) excellent native Android applications and capabilities, you will be thrilled.

I'm very happy with my Transformer. I agree that coming to this forum might make one think that there's nothing but problems with the device. However, consider the volume of troubles (most can be corrected) against the fact that 400,000 were sold in April and May, there really aren't that problems with the tablet.
I love, I mean, Love, the keyboard. I have the MSI netbook U123, which has a similar-sized keyboard. Somehow, this keyboard is so much easier to use and I never hit the wrong keys. And having the touch screen is very convenient.
Good luck with your decision.

I love it!
I have had mine since the initial US release and can honestly say I have not had one issue with mine. The video issues seem to be resolved since the 3.1 release, I have not noticed and light bleed issues others have, i even think the speakers soud great considering the size of the unit! For what I do with it, watching videos while running on the treadmill, browsing the web, passing some time with a few games, and using email and the calendar, think it simply is a GREAt device!

(not even xda-rooted yet- but..) am really very happy!!
[Xvid plays great / SSH client rules / happy PDF rendering / Dolphin rocking the web]
Can't wait for my dock; some NVFlash loveliness [tick];
audiophile voodoo; (possible) ubuntu dual-boot;
..and its a damn-fine, asus done-deal in my book

How do you guys connect the tablet to the internet without dock? Just wireless or tether right?
To me thats the main issue. It will be out here tomorrow and im readying all i can about it because i can't decide what to do.

going to go to best buy to see if they have it instock today

Considering an Eee Pad

So, I currently have a Dell Streak 7. I'm considering moving my tablet business to Asus, because Dell does not seem to be doing anything good right about now. I just got hired at a new job, and hopefully by the end of the month, a Tranformer with a Keyboard will be within reach. I have a few questions.
Firstly, I know there is an Ubuntu build that can be flashed, but to dual-boot it with Android, you need an NVFlashable ROM. Is there an NVFlash of the original ROM, so I can run official Honeycomb and dual-boot with Ubuntu?
Secondly, how good is the build quality of the tablet and keyboard, and how well do they work together? Is the hardware up to spec with the software? If I am spending $600 to run Honeycomb and Ubuntu, I want to make sure that the hardware won't die on me.
Third, I am hoping the performance is good. Considering the keyboard and Ubuntu support, I am planning on using this not just as an Android tablet, but a Linux laptop. Is the performance while running Linux acceptable for daily use, and are there any bugs?

bluesy_92 said:
So, I currently have a Dell Streak 7. I'm considering moving my tablet business to Asus, because Dell does not seem to be doing anything good right about now. I just got hired at a new job, and hopefully by the end of the month, a Tranformer with a Keyboard will be within reach. I have a few questions.
Firstly, I know there is an Ubuntu build that can be flashed, but to dual-boot it with Android, you need an NVFlashable ROM. Is there an NVFlash of the original ROM, so I can run official Honeycomb and dual-boot with Ubuntu?
Secondly, how good is the build quality of the tablet and keyboard, and how well do they work together? Is the hardware up to spec with the software? If I am spending $600 to run Honeycomb and Ubuntu, I want to make sure that the hardware won't die on me.
Third, I am hoping the performance is good. Considering the keyboard and Ubuntu support, I am planning on using this not just as an Android tablet, but a Linux laptop. Is the performance while running Linux acceptable for daily use, and are there any bugs?
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I'm wondering this as well.

I was contemplating the same thing before I got mine 1.5 months ago. I planned on replacing my aging eeePC 1005HA with the TF101 + dock, but I currently don't have enough money to buy the dock.
I've used Linux for years and currently use it as my main OS on my desktop, so I love the fact that you can run Ubuntu on the TF (which I haven't tried yet). I was following the dev of it for a little while and unless they changed the process, having a flashable ROM doesn't matter as Ubuntu replaces the recovery partiton (which houses the stock recovery or Clockwork) and not the system partiton (which houses Android). From what I've seen Ubuntu isn't 100% working yet and isn't ready for everyday usage. Prime 1.4 (which is essentially a slightly tweaked honeycomb build) has a flashable blob file, they're currently up to Prime 1.7 although IDK if any blobs exist for it.
The build quality of the TF is generally good, but there are some problems. The bezel may be loose in certain areas (about a 1" section on my top left corner is squeaky), your unit may have minimal or massive lightbleed due to the way IPS screens are backlit (any device with an IPS screen has lightbleed, take a look at the iPad2) someone on here did a poll about lightbleed and 75% of users reported that they had some form of lightbleed, and some users have noticed dust trapped under their glass screen. After 5 weeks of usage I just had to RMA my TF because it didn't want to charge the battery anymore.
The hardware on the TF is great and when coupled with great software it works extremely well, the problem is that Honeycomb is still crappy in some areas. There aren't many apps that truly support tablets and some things just don't perform well (across all Honeycomb devices, not just the TF). The TF has typing lag when using both the virtual and physical keyboard, but that seems to be more of a HC problem. 3.2 fixed a lot of things but Honeycomb isn't perfect by far.
Don't let all of this deter you from getting one though, it's a great device. All of the software problems should be fixed in the coming months when Ice Cream Sandwich is released and hopefully newer batches of the TF will fix some of the quality problems. Even though I had to send it back to get it fixed when it was only 5 weeks old, I still love the damn thing and miss it already!

I love mine. I've had a couple of tablets before, and I think this is the best by far. I'm one of the lucky ones who has no lightbleed(none at all) and no squeaks in the case, but even if I wasn't that lucky, I'd still love it. It's the highest build quality of any of my tablets, and it's super stable(for me at least). The only time I ever have to reboot is to update the firmware, and it lasts in standby for an entire week, with the wifi on(not in power-saver) the entire time. Also, Honeycomb in general is verrrrry nice, compared to my froyo/gingerbread tablets, and I think Asus has made a very good build of it.
I plan to dual boot Ubuntu when they get the touchscreen figured out, but AFAIK, there is no CWM method when dual-booting yet, so NVflash is the way to go. The stock firmware is available in NVflash form, but I think dual-boot will still break the OTA updates.

Alright, now another question. How well does Ubuntu work with the hardware? Will the USB port on the keyboard and external memory on the tablet be recognized? Will the built-in cam be recognized by Ubuntu as a webcam, or made useless? Is there anything else I should know before buying?

bluesy_92 said:
Alright, now another question. How well does Ubuntu work with the hardware? Will the USB port on the keyboard and external memory on the tablet be recognized? Will the built-in cam be recognized by Ubuntu as a webcam, or made useless? Is there anything else I should know before buying?
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Hope that your unit doesnt have locked bootloader (new key) and thus cant root or anything!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1198510

I've been seriously wondering if I should buy an Asus Transformer now that it has been out for a little while.
I don't know if I am too bothered with the 3G model that is to be released soon, as I do not mind just using my mobile phone as a wireless hotspot if I needed to use the internet and I would mainly be in places using this tablet where there is WiFi anyway.
We have a few sitting in the stock room at work and it's so incredibly tempting to get one as I've become smitten with all of the videos and the threads in this forum about it but I'm wondering if I should wait for something better that might come out.
It is a lovely little device though and I am sure I'd be happy to have one. I think I could compare my same situation to choosing my HTC Desire over a HTC Desire HD, although that came down to which telephone network I was using. Vodafone in Australia weren't doing so well (and still aren't as far as I know) and the Desire HD was exclusive to their network but I was convinced to go with the better telephone network and I love my HTC Desire even though it was around a year old after it came out.
Perhaps I just answered my own questions as to whether or not I should get an Asus EEEPad Transformer but I feel as if I need some more convincing from users here and not just Youtube reviews! It seems like a wonderful unit of technology, Bluesy and I am sure that you would be very happy with it. The devs here seem to be working very hard on creating a strong support in relations to customisation for this device so it will only get better. The Ubuntu support for it already astounds me! Haha.

lathanub, I was in the same situation last week, and pondered and wondered what to do. Finally at friday I ordered one myself! There just isnt any other device in same price range to compete with TF and it has all the latest technology in it.
TF 2 will be released Q1/2012 earliest imo, and so much can go wrong on it too with new chip inside. I see no use of 2 extra cores in near future for basic tablet usage, unless you wanna run the latest and greatest 3D games on it etc (I think tablets aint good for serious gaming, casual is ok for me)...
3G is probably coming in months time, but for me constant 3G connection just eats battery for nothing when using WIFI. And I own a MiFi device, that is so small to carry around, when Im not in area with WIFI. 3G is so much slower than any WIFI anyways, so I happily use it instead.
Ofc its finally about you, if you find the tablet useful now. For me, having handy device is priceless atm:
- read email
- twitter
- IM
- surf the net for some minor things
- watch youtube when bored
- watch movies/series when on the road (or waiting in airport like usually)
- read books
etc...
I dont think I need to boot my desktop at home anymore, unless I do serious work. Having ultra fast PC on 24/7 just for email/IM is bit too much....

Guys, do yourself a favor and look for the correct version of dock. B50 docks are horrible! The battery drain on them is at 5% an hour and it defeats the purpose of the dock totally.
Look for a B70 dock and for tablet, look for a no light bleed version but one that is not B70 if you want root - it is a BIG problem with these tablets right now. Rest all are great though. Ubuntu support is good as long as you don't put it on a MicroSD card.
Regarding the hardware issues - buy it at Staples or Best Buy if you are serious about using them for a while and exchange if you get bad batches. I bought online and RMA/Returns are greatly delayed and you have to pay shipping!

kkiran said:
Guys, do yourself a favor and look for the correct version of dock. B50 docks are horrible! The battery drain on them is at 5% an hour and it defeats the purpose of the dock totally.
Look for a B70 dock and for tablet, look for a no light bleed version but one that is not B70 if you want root - it is a BIG problem with these tablets right now. Rest all are great though. Ubuntu support is good as long as you don't put it on a MicroSD card.
Regarding the hardware issues - buy it at Staples or Best Buy if you are serious about using them for a while and exchange if you get bad batches. I bought online and RMA/Returns are greatly delayed and you have to pay shipping!
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I wouldn't call it a "big problem" with the B70s just yet. I have counted about 15 people on the forum and IRC that have successfully NVflashed a B70, and only one person who hasn't, and it hasn't been confirmed that it's due to a different SBK yet. It's something to be aware of, but there's alot of fear-mongering going on too.

My only advice is that, dont compare this to a laptop becuase it's just a *bit* below laptop level. It's great for what it does and not much else. If you're content with that, then you'll definitely love the Transformer.

I can't put the transformer down. Once I found Thumb Keyboard and SwiftKeyX for tablets, it is a dream. I'm out of town for 2 weeks for business and this thing is great. Emails, office doc's, Facebook, twitter, gTalk Video chat, games, Netflix, notes, etc.
My laptop is only on for wifi adhoc connection.
Asus Transformer 3.1 pwnd
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I'm picking one up on Friday. Which store you guys recommend I purchase it from?

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I'm picking one up on Friday. Which store you guys recommend I purchase it from?
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Best Buy so you can take it back easily if you want.

Why'd you buy the Transformer? Compare against the A500...

I'm just curious. I have an Asus Transformer on the way and currently have the Acer A500. I have to give one of them to my girlfriend and frankly haven't decided which one to hand off. I really like the Acer, but have heard many great things about the Asus. What made you choose it? I will root and load a custom ICS ROM. Most likely, I will not buy the docking keyboard for this. Don't feel I really type a whole lot on it.
Thanks for your input!

I chose the transformer because of Asus being known to have timely updates. Even for their " older " devices. The price was a big part also. I mean with basically the same specs as the galaxy tab but priced about $100 less is a win to me.
I said it a million times already and I'll say it to you as well .... I'm very very happy with my choice. Had it since Christmas and got ICS just a month ago and then a little bug fix update today. That's nice support for what is in all reality in today's world and " older device "!
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I think the screen is nicer on the Transformer and I like the style and design of the Transformer better. Plus having the keyboard option is a plus. When I look at the two side by side in the store the Acer just seems a little cheaper looking to me. I would keep the Transformer. I have had mine since last summer and have had next to no issues with it and as others have pointed out ASUS does a good job with pushing out updates and fixes in a timely manner.

The main reason I got it was the keyboard dock. I liked the additional functionality and the extended battery life. I don't think I would have gotten the TF if it hadn't had the dock.
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Without a doubt, the screen on the transformer is superior to the iconia. I've had them side by side, and it's a no brainer.
That and the dock, battery life, voodoo sound and most importantly a very active development community. This last part will prolong your investment far beyond the lifespan of the iconia.

TF IS THE BESTEST YOU GOTTA KEEP IT caps

Use them both for a week. Nobody can judge better what slate's best than you. Least of all fan boys

It depends on which one you prefer. I guess I was one of the unlucky ones, my non-rooted, rarely used 32gb Transformer has spent more time in Texas than Bush (service center). During the 8 months I've had it the power switch broke, the dock drained, the ICS update bricked it, when they restored it to the factory ICS and sent it back it died again in 4 hours, and as I type this it is on it's way back to Texas on an RMA. I have a lot of gadgets (Rooted NookCOlor, iPad, Acer W500 windows tablet, HP Tablet PC) and not one of them has ever had an issue. I'm assuming I just got a lemon, but the real problem isn't that the build quality sucks, it's that Asus support is the worse I have seen from any manufacturer (although I will admit there are plenty of updates). At this point I've ordered a Samsung (it can't possibly be worse) and would not recommend the Asus Transformer to anyone, but there are plenty of people in this forum who seem to have had a lot of luck with them so I guess it's the luck of the draw. I will say that when I thought there was something wrong with my Acer the support was much better and it's easy to get upgraded to support in the States instead of the poor drones Asus uses that are basically reading off a script.

Keyboard dock for usability -- great for watching movies, typing, ports, battery life. Pad itself had good specs. Asus brand has a good history of support (I have used their motherboards for years).

I guess it really is luck of the draw, there are probably more positive posts than negative really.
People are always more prone to post it is not working then everything creating a post to let everyone know it works.
Mine has been awesome bought it probably summer time ish, barely any issues, couple of weird things after ICS update but after a couple of tweaks and things from the good guys here I can honestly say it is the best bit of techy stuff I have ever bought. or work bought anyway.
but have a play with both as mentioned above and go from there, you are are kind of taking some of the positives and crossing them off the list by not having the keyboard though.

I had the acer for a week it was very nice, but too heavy for my use, plus i wanted the keyboard. If you need usb host you'll be happier with acer, if not you'll prefer the TF. The TF does have a nicer screen.
All that said the acer is a nice wellnbuilt Tab.

There's a rule where a happy customer may tell one friend while an unhappy customer will tell 10 to 20 people. Don't go by all the negatives you may sew.
Some people on here have had very bad experience with the TF while people like me, have had nothing but good experiences
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dman918 said:
I'm just curious. I have an Asus Transformer on the way and currently have the Acer A500. I have to give one of them to my girlfriend and frankly haven't decided which one to hand off. I really like the Acer, but have heard many great things about the Asus. What made you choose it? I will root and load a custom ICS ROM. Most likely, I will not buy the docking keyboard for this. Don't feel I really type a whole lot on it.
Thanks for your input!
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Give her the TF, she will love you even more! Then share it with her for fun things and make the Acer your workhorse.
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tedr44 said:
Give her the TF, she will love you even more!
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Sigh, if only women worked this way...they don't love you more they just start expecting more from you, then you have to work harder to maintain your image of 'nice boyfriend/husband'. It's a downward spiral from there..

Hahahhaha, you gotta do good things in a random, unpatterned way.. sadly. Anyway, the Acer always looked.. cheaper to me. The Asus didn't. The only thing that is wrong with mine is the speaker, which is way too soft and probably broken on the right side, but it's okay because I rarely use the sound alone because of how soft it is (even when initially pre-breakage).

you know why i bought the TF over the a500???
My roommate picked up the a500 and dropped it IN A CASE a week later. Power button hardly worked. Volume rocker flew across the room. Bent the bezel. It was nasty.
Dropped my TF a few days later. Nothing. Mine as taken the leap of faith a few times and nothing. Had a kid throw it on the floor when i was trying to shut his bad ass up on a plane. Nothing.

Testing out RDP
I bought my TF101 for the dock (I would have opted for the TF201, but didn't want to mess with the WiFi issues). I thought about the Galaxy but need something to replace a laptop, and so needed the dock. I've been testing remote access Linux and Windows machines via RDP for "when I need a desktop" and Android for everything else. Pretty satisfied so far (although now that I think about it I should see if the ICS update which came out today includes the tun.ko driver so that VPN works out of the box).
I don't know about the XDA community for the A500, but I've been able to find any answer I needed here; rooting, unrooting, upgrading, etc. A good user community is also a plus.

I have used both ASUS (mainly for building desktops) and ACER (notebooks) in the past, and one of the main factors for me was the brand quality of ASUS.