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Ditching the Vibrant

got a white MyTouch 4g coming.
After several replacements, I just couldn't deal with the terrible GPS on this thing.
Got me lost in Kansas City when I was going in for surgery last week and was the final straw.
Bye bye lag fixes, bye bye waiting forever for updates, bye bye **** not working when I need it.

Ive had both and they are more evenly matched then a lot of people think. Both are great phones.have fun.
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hydrogenman said:
got a white MyTouch 4g coming.
After several replacements, I just couldn't deal with the terrible GPS on this thing.
Got me lost in Kansas City when I was going in for surgery last week and was the final straw.
Bye bye lag fixes, bye bye waiting forever for updates, bye bye **** not working when I need it.
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They sending you a mytouch to replace the vibrant? Do You have to pay the difference?
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Five0nIt said:
They sending you a mytouch to replace the vibrant? Do You have to pay the difference?
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no no no no!
he got tired of all the vibrants not working so he bought a mytouch they don't send different phones for replacementh aha

I always thought the MyTouch line was more for chicks. My idea of manly phones would include the Vibrant, G2, Evo, even the original G1.
Im sure the MT4 is a great phone, but I would still choose my Vibrant. Cya and good luck Miss.

badaphooko01 said:
I always thought the MyTouch line was more for chicks. My idea of manly phones would include the Vibrant, G2, Evo, even the original G1.
Im sure the MT4 is a great phone, but I would still choose my Vibrant. Cya and good luck Miss.
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same here, it looks... like its made for softer hands (no sexualism intended just saying)
Vibrant G2 Evo NS and most HTC phones for me.

Id get a mt4, but im changing carriers when I change phones. Tmobile is trash as well.
Dont mind paying more for a better carrier, personally.
And making this thread serves no purpose.
The vibrant forum is filled with WorksForMe™ kiddies.
Harder hands would demolish the plastic Vibrant...
And I agree those here give the MT4g way too much undeserved slack. The phone's only megatives compared to the Vibrant are the screen (subjective), screen size,.and internal storage size. Maybe the SoC is marginally worse. Almost everything else is superior. Sammy botched the Galaxy S.
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xriderx66 said:
I've had a G2 hated the call quality.
My Girlfriend has a Mytouch, it just doesn't fit my needs, its a good phone, i just don't like it.
I'm not saying that because of the phone, i'm saying that because your insulting the phone on the forum MADE for the phone the vibrant section and your pretty much bragging about your Mytouch, just go to the MYTouch part of the forum.
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Just venting chief.
Took a long time and many replacements to get to the point where I had an option.
I use the GPS a ton....and getting lost frequently when the GPS quit working really, really sucked.

hydrogenman said:
got it for 150 and get to keep the Vibrant...
don't really care if anyone cares....just relieved to finally be rid of this junk ass phone
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i'll give u 125 for the vibrant.

allthrottle said:
I work in a warehouse during the day and on engines in my leisure time. You won't find soft hands here, and you won't find any damage on my vibrant. Unless you've crushed your phone in your hand without trying, you're one of those "soft hand" people, at least by your logic. This phone is plenty tough, maybe not scuff resistant but it certainly isn't any weaker than any other normal phone out.
And I've been with tmobile for 6 years and have had very little trouble. Sometimes I'd wish for wider coverage, but that's my only gripe on the road. Maybe the coverage in your area is poor, but I've lived in every corner of texas and have had coverage, no dropped calls.
Maybe tmobile and/or the vibrant aren't for you, that's fine. No need to trash either.
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Where in Texas do u live? Im in north Texas frisco Texas.
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Wait til you see the problems the MT4Gs have.

hydrogenman said:
got a white MyTouch 4g coming.
After several replacements, I just couldn't deal with the terrible GPS on this thing.
Got me lost in Kansas City when I was going in for surgery last week and was the final straw.
Bye bye lag fixes, bye bye waiting forever for updates, bye bye **** not working when I need it.
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That's cool. I hope you like it.

whether we need this post is up for debate, but he is not stating anything we cannot agree with. gps does suck, lag is horrendous, and sammy is slower than any other brand when time to update. not bashing but stating the truth. i love the screen and the devs have worked hard with the roms but sammy needs to step up big time.

you should have waited and flashed the newest modem JL5 fixed the gps issues for me =]

grlddawkin said:
whether we need this post is up for debate, but he is not stating anything we cannot agree with. gps does suck, lag is horrendous, and sammy is slower than any other brand when time to update. not bashing but stating the truth. i love the screen and the devs have worked hard with the roms but sammy needs to step up big time.
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No lag, gps problems here.
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lag is horrendous
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That has to be hyperbole right? I've had my vibrant for some months now. The amount of lag I have experienced has been sparse and when apparent, understandable if not completely tolerable. It has never crossed my mind to complain about the lag with this phone. What are you guys trying to do with your phones that you are experiencing this kind of stuff with?
I'm seriously beginning to think there are some wildly different vibrant experiences out there. There have to be, because that is just not the case for myself. I have installed lagfixes before and seen no discernible real world speed difference besides those seen in benchmarks.
It's got to be one of two things. Some vibrants are messed while others are not. Or. Half of you people are insanely impatient and will put up with nothing but absolute perfection. Something i've yet to witness on any phone, be it iPhone or HTC.

I don't think I've ever bought an electronic device with some kind of firmware that I haven't at least looked into hacking, rooting, cracking or whatever you want to call it.
Since I've had my phone its been awesome. GPS works, its fast, its modded and I do what I want with it. Anybody that buys a Vibrant and doesn't root it doesn't have a clue what they are missing. Not that if you don't root it you don't have a clue, but your are simply missing out. Now to leave this phone for well something that isn't even close is a shame.
I've played with what your replacing it with and honestly I'm not sure what you are thinking, but then again you dumped your Vibrant so I'm really not sure what you are thinking. My buddy and his iPhone4 wishes he could play the videos I play and had the freedom we have. Man it all starts at root.

xriderx66 said:
I'm just relieved to finally be rid of this junk ass member.
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its his choice to get a phone he likes better.
AND if you want to call someone a junk ass member,plz look at yourself first. you have 4 pages worth of noob "HELP ME!" threads that YOU created. you have almost 500 posts while i only have 1k(rounded) with not even one page worth of threads.
PLUS you DIDNT even know what would happen if you FORMATTED YOUR SD CARD shown here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9871494&postcount=2

Kubernetes said:
The existence of this thread would appear to belie your claim.
And a eMpTy4G? Why not get a Nexus S? At least the Nexus has the gorgeous screen and will get updates far sooner than the MT4G.
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can't get a cheap Nexus S out of retention because of the GPS issues.
If I don't like the Mytouch4g I'll certainly sell it along with the Vibrant, and buy a Nexus S off contract.
But, I've been hearing the Nexus S has the same flaky GPS issues too.....so meh

After modding my Vibrant with 2.2 I wouldn't want any other phone right now, especially not a 1st generation myTouch 4g which can have plenty of it's own problems.
I just rooted my wife's myTouch slide and what a PITA that was compared to the Vibrant.

Next Dev Device

Was wondering if we could get some of the top devs to chime in on what is the next device they are going to move on to now that the Evo has gotten a little long on the tooth. I'm on the fence on what my next phone is gonna be. Evo 3D or Galaxy S II. I'm partial to the GS II. The specs sound incredible but don't want to get it & have no Dev support. Case in point, the Epic. I've heard from Myn personally & he's on board with the 3D & I've heard through the grapevine that Aamikam is too. So what about Calkulin, toastcfh, flipzmode, ViRuS, netarchy, and others. Sorry if I left anyone out but those are off the top of my head.
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Hmmm my upgrade isn't until September so im hoping better devices might show up. Personally I say get whatever phone makes you happy; I don't buy my phone's based on which "dev" is getting it, I get it because that's what I want lol. For every device there's usually great devs.....except the epic....its like a red head step child no one likes it.

dirkyd3rk said:
Hmmm my upgrade isn't until September so im hoping better devices might show up. Personally I say get whatever phone makes you happy; I don't buy my phone's based on which "dev" is getting it, I get it because that's what I want lol. For every device there's usually great devs.....except the epic....its like a red head step child no one likes it.
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Lol, more like People Under the Stairs.
But I agree, get which phone makes you happy, kinda leaning toward the galaxy S II for when mine comes around; but as said, mine isn't till november, so I'm not in 'death decision' mode yet.

dirkyd3rk said:
.....except the epic....its like a red head step child no one likes it.
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Lmao!!
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dirkyd3rk said:
Hmmm my upgrade isn't until September so im hoping better devices might show up. Personally I say get whatever phone makes you happy; I don't buy my phone's based on which "dev" is getting it, I get it because that's what I want lol. For every device there's usually great devs.....except the epic....its like a red head step child no one likes it.
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Well I my upgrade came June 4th so I can grab the 3D on the 24th or wait for the Within whenever it get released. I'm trying to narrow it down because last year I bought the Evo on release date and purchased the Epic a few months for my second line. I walked around with both for months but rarely used the Epic. It was an alright phone, and spec wise it was better than the Evo but the devs are what really made the Evo for me. That and the fact that I despise TouchWiz with all of my being. Finally got rid of that second line and trying to make a good decision. Want to get the Evo but pound for pound the GS II is the champ. To me the dev support is gonna be the final decision maker. I'm a flash-a-holic and I need my fix for new and different roms.

klbjr said:
Well I my upgrade came June 4th so I can grab the 3D on the 24th or wait for the Within whenever it get released. I'm trying to narrow it down because last year I bought the Evo on release date and purchased the Epic a few months for my second line. I walked around with both for months but rarely used the Epic. It was an alright phone, and spec wise it was better than the Evo but the devs are what really made the Evo for me. That and the fact that I despise TouchWiz with all of my being. Finally got rid of that second line and trying to make a good decision. Want to get the Evo but pound for pound the GS II is the champ. To me the dev support is gonna be the final decision maker. I'm a flash-a-holic and I need my fix for new and different roms.
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Please explain to me what you mean by this? Cause you state it as a fact.What makes it superior in your eyes?

teh roxxorz said:
Lol, more like People Under the Stairs.
But I agree, get which phone makes you happy, kinda leaning toward the galaxy S II for when mine comes around; but as said, mine isn't till november, so I'm not in 'death decision' mode yet.
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Definitely interested in the gs2 as well! Im not liking that Motorola phone I can't stand its design.....

Matstarr said:
Please explain to me what you mean by this? Cause you state it as a fact.What makes it superior in your eyes?
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Lighter, better processor, better camera, better screen.
Hardware is definitely better but software doesn't compliment it
Gimme a couple a days to come up with a new sig that is cool.

No one getting the Motorola Photon?
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kanyewest said:
No one getting the Motorola Photon?
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I will never own a Motorola android based phone. Phone looks ugly as heck anyways.

Crossrocker said:
Lighter, better processor, better camera, better screen.
Hardware is definitely better but software doesn't compliment it
Gimme a couple a days to come up with a new sig that is cool.
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*facepalm* not this again.

swaze said:
*facepalm* not this again.
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I know I see this a lot. I don't brag or anything; I'm just saying. Hardware is better. That's a fact. Get over it. Look at all of the reviews and see what they say. I am 99% still gonna get evo 3d
Gimme a couple a days to come up with a new sig that is cool.

HTC Evo Shift Vs Samsung Epic 4G *ROOTED*

So I'm positive everyone see's this question all the time. But they always judge it on the stock phones. Well I'm looking to get one of these phones, but to ROOT them. Which one do you believe I should get and why? I'm also looking into battery life even though buying an extended battery isn't a problem. Also which rom do you think is best for your pick? Thanks in advance.
Will be posting in both sides to get more answers

Easy answer... look at the topics and responsees in both forums and decide which group you would rather deal with...
And then look at the rom and root options of both. HTC is on a whole nother level.
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Well seeing how the Epic community jumped on my question much faster, with more people ... Lol jk.
But any more suggestions people? Thanks in advance

Do not get the Epic!!!!! I didnt like it as its made like ****. The shift is much faster and even my sister wishes she would have just gotten the EVO and shes not even a power user. HTC makes the best phones on the market and I will always be buying my phones from them.
Get the Shift, Root it, Install Shift Deck and enjoy an awesome phone

westicle said:
Easy answer... look at the topics and responsees in both forums and decide which group you would rather deal with...
And then look at the rom and root options of both. HTC is on a whole nother level.
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This. And I own an Epic (my wife has the shift). I'd never trade my Epic in for anything, at least at this point, but yeah the Epic forum is full of complainers, trolls, and guys with tiny wangs (or so I assume with how they have to constantly act like king s**t in the forums all of the time). And shift has a ton more devs, plus working cm7. But the phone itself is sweet, and faster (in my opinion, with the right rom), and has an independent number row. And the screen is bigger and looks nicer. I could go on and on about differences, but I've gotta run for now.
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From everything I've heard, the CPU in the shift has the edge on the Epic, but the GPU in the Epic edges out the Shift. If battery life is important to you, I say hands down go with the Shift. I easily get a full day every day and my friend with an epic is always asking people for chargers, even changed all his backgrounds to black to save battery (doesn't save on LCD but on LED it does). He does everything he can and still struggles for a full day out of the thing. Now I speak from what he's told me, I've never owned an Epic myself. Overall I've been thrilled with the shift, does everything I ask of it with no lag and no complaints.

HTCotta said:
From everything I've heard, the CPU in the shift has the edge on the Epic, but the GPU in the Epic edges out the Shift. If battery life is important to you, I say hands down go with the Shift. I easily get a full day every day and my friend with an epic is always asking people for chargers, even changed all his backgrounds to black to save battery (doesn't save on LCD but on LED it does). He does everything he can and still struggles for a full day out of the thing. Now I speak from what he's told me, I've never owned an Epic myself. Overall I've been thrilled with the shift, does everything I ask of it with no lag and no complaints.
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I certainly had this issue on stock rom on the Epic. I couldn't even make it through a work shift without the battery dying. But custom roms on the Epic blow that out of the water. I now can go a whole day of moderate usage and still have around 30-40%. But I don't know, I'm guessing with a custom rom the Shift still kicks the Epic's ass battery-wise. My wife is running CM7 (which the Epic may not see for a looong time), and I don't ever see her reaching for a charger or complaining of the battery. And being of the female variety, she tends to use a lot of the live wallpapers, widgets, etc...

fifedogg said:
Do not get the Epic!!!!! I didnt like it as its made like ****. The shift is much faster and even my sister wishes she would have just gotten the EVO and shes not even a power user. HTC makes the best phones on the market and I will always be buying my phones from them.
Get the Shift, Root it, Install Shift Deck and enjoy an awesome phone
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The Shift now comes stock with Gingerbread from Sprint. There is no way to root it. You are SOL. I pulled all of my hair out when I figured this out.
Turns out Android (maybe not "Android", but the current ecosystem) sucks hard. Suckers like you and I come online and see threads and guides about rooting that simply won't ever work on our devices because they've been manufacturer updated. And sites like this don't seem to give a damn -- at least update the root "guide", mods.
Quite worthless. Don't fall for this BS. The Shift is again unrootable, just like almost all updated phones from Sprint. Chances are, with the devs having moved on or got lucky enough to have an old version of Android when they got theirs, all new ones will remain unrootable forever. #@(*$

curiousGeorge said:
The Shift is again unrootable
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How can it be unrootable "again"? If it was unrootable the first time, then how did we get it?
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...all new ones will remain unrootable forever.
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Yes, you are absolutely right. The updated ROM from Sprint will never be rooted.
NEVER. EVER.
Has anyone tried to run an old Froyo RUU on a brand new Shift that came with Gingerbread?

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Has anyone tried to run an old Froyo RUU on a brand new Shift that came with Gingerbread?
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I've seen where a few people have tried the one zip ruu but the updated bootloader didn't recognize it.
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X99 was wondering that my self,gonna try it later tonite when the wife gets home.She uodated hers,I downloaded an ruu yesterday the .exe. I will report in the am
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Epic. 10char
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curiousGeorge said:
The Shift now comes stock with Gingerbread from Sprint. There is no way to root it. You are SOL. I pulled all of my hair out when I figured this out.
Turns out Android (maybe not "Android", but the current ecosystem) sucks hard. Suckers like you and I come online and see threads and guides about rooting that simply won't ever work on our devices because they've been manufacturer updated. And sites like this don't seem to give a damn -- at least update the root "guide", mods.
Quite worthless. Don't fall for this BS. The Shift is again unrootable, just like almost all updated phones from Sprint. Chances are, with the devs having moved on or got lucky enough to have an old version of Android when they got theirs, all new ones will remain unrootable forever. #@(*$
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You need to take a breather my friend. The stock 2.3 will get rooted in time, just like the 2.2 did. "Unrootable forever" is just an ignorant statement. If all you're gonna do is rant and rave a bunch of misinformation, please keep the post to yourself.

Back on topic...
I have a shift and purchased the Epic for my wife.
The Epic display is nicer, and the epic actually feels lighter (and is?) Than my shift. It also has more keys on the keyboard.
However, on stock ROMs my shift seems faster and has better battery life. UI's are a very personal preference, but I much prefer the HTC sense and overall software stack vs Samsung's touchwiz. It just seems to work better.
I've beeen running custom ROMs on my shift and most of them work well. About ready to try a custom ROM on the Epic to see if it works better...
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curiousGeorge said:
The Shift now comes stock with Gingerbread from Sprint. There is no way to root it. You are SOL. I pulled all of my hair out when I figured this out.
Turns out Android (maybe not "Android", but the current ecosystem) sucks hard. Suckers like you and I come online and see threads and guides about rooting that simply won't ever work on our devices because they've been manufacturer updated. And sites like this don't seem to give a damn -- at least update the root "guide", mods.
Quite worthless. Don't fall for this BS. The Shift is again unrootable, just like almost all updated phones from Sprint. Chances are, with the devs having moved on or got lucky enough to have an old version of Android when they got theirs, all new ones will remain unrootable forever. #@(*$
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Yes, and man will never go to the moon. We will never be able to fly. Come on man .
PS. Don't knock the Site, or the Dev's. The work they do is because they want to, it's not an obligation.

after the samsung moment debacle i will never own another samsung phone. to me the epic is a moment on steroids. its still a POS lol. glad i switched to the shift

prboy1969 said:
Yes, and man will never go to the moon. We will never be able to fly. Come on man .
PS. Don't knock the Site, or the Dev's. The work they do is because they want to, it's not an obligation.
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+1
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ive been very happy with both my shift and the dev community here (who have turned me from an ignorant n00b-lout into a root-user) and all those who have helped me try and solve my problems.
As for rooting gingersense, it will happen soon enough, just give the devs here some time.

My wife has the Epic and I have the Shift 4G. I can't stand her phone, and she can't stand mine. Tho we both take our phone's off the charger in the morning and when we drive home, mine still is in the green where she has to use the car charger going home. Then again, neither of our phones are rooted. I have rooted her phone in the past, didn't seem to make much difference. Still running the crappy samsung software.

Stuke00 said:
My wife has the Epic and I have the Shift 4G. I can't stand her phone, and she can't stand mine. Tho we both take our phone's off the charger in the morning and when we drive home, mine still is in the green where she has to use the car charger going home. Then again, neither of our phones are rooted. I have rooted her phone in the past, didn't seem to make much difference. Still running the crappy samsung software.
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Rooting in and of itself isn't going to make a damn bit of difference in battery life. It's what you do with the root that counts... lol, sounds like a phallic joke gone bad...
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If no root is found would you abandon your OG evo?

I am aware that the devs are hard at work to find a root method for og evo users and they will most likely find one but just out of curiosity what would you do a root wasnt found? Would you get a new phone? What phone would you get would you buy a rooted phone off craigslist?
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yes, if a sprint phone comes out that would be worth upgrading to and has root, I would be inclined to do so.

I wouldn't because its still a excellent phone for everyday usage ..
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I ve been looking @ this photon. Not a bad phone and has been rooted. I would switch
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I know that this question has already been asked before, but I am too lazy to search for the thread.
No, I would not go out of my way to upgrade and/or replace my phone just because it doesn't have root unless an easy way to do so presented itself. I would prefer to have a rooted phone, but since I will likely be waiting for a new generation (i.e. not this current refresh cycle, including the EVO 3D, Photon 4G, etc.) of phones before I do a replacement, any new phone I get will probably not be rooted right away (or if I get an iPhone, the issue becomes moot) so it makes no difference to me.
If I get an Android phone the next go-round, it will almost certainly be an HTC. Aside from the fact that I just like their form factor and think they make quality phones, they seem to have the support of a large portion of the dev community so whatever the FOTM HTC phone is will be what I get.

That Photon looks pretty fancy.

My wife got the photon and it just seems generic to me. All the widgets are plain Jane...I guess I've just grown acustomed to sense..
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No because coming soon at htcdev.com they will ave an unlocked bootloader webbased tool

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No because coming soon at htcdev.com they will ave an unlocked bootloader webbased tool
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Which is already confirmed to not currently support the EVO 4G, nor is there a projected timeframe for when it might. Most of us assume it never will, because HTC wants to encourage people to upgrade.

Nope! cuz I waited for a long ass time to get this phone and regardless if there's root or not my phone is still the **** and compared to a blackberry...Mmmhmm Naaw I don't think so I'll die before I go back to that
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Nah, I just got this phone at the end of June when Sprint was allowing 2 year upgrade resets. LauncherPro Plus allows me to hide the bloatware in the app drawer, and it runs really smooth for being stock.
If I get bored I could always activate the HTC Touch or Touch Pro, I regret trading in my Moment though; Still quite a bit of development going on with it.

infamousteeboy said:
Nope! cuz I waited for a long ass time to get this phone and regardless if there's root or not my phone is still the **** and compared to a blackberry...Mmmhmm Naaw I don't think so I'll die before I go back to that
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I have actually been honestly taking a hard look at their newest QNX operating system and thinking about whether or not that would be something I could see myself moving towards. I have a BB for work and while it's substandard compared to my EVO (a lot of the reason is that the BES settings for government phones are very restrictive and lock out a lot of features) there are some things that just can't be beat about it. For example, I haven't plugged it in to charge it for three days and it's still got almost 75% of its battery left, and I get a lot of emails and phone calls at work.
I don't know. It would be a hard sell, but I have been thinking about it.

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I have actually been honestly taking a hard look at their newest QNX operating system and thinking about whether or not that would be something I could see myself moving towards. I have a BB for work and while it's substandard compared to my EVO (a lot of the reason is that the BES settings for government phones are very restrictive and lock out a lot of features) there are some things that just can't be beat about it. For example, I haven't plugged it in to charge it for three days and it's still got almost 75% of its battery left, and I get a lot of emails and phone calls at work.
I don't know. It would be a hard sell, but I have been thinking about it.
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Oh man the battery life on those things are ridiculously good my pearl was a soldier lol I dropped it in 3 different types of liquid :drunk: 3 times the damn thing came back to life with the rice trick lol
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Oh man the battery life on those things are ridiculously good my pearl was a soldier lol I dropped it in 3 different types of liquid :drunk: 3 times the damn thing came back to life with the rice trick lol
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Yeah, my BB is a trooper; been carried around the house by a great dane with no negative impact.

I'm keeping the Evo until I am eligible for an upgrade, or it dies.
If it goes the way of the dodo, I would probably go back to my hero, until the next HTC phone comes out.

I personally would go get a evo3d or epic touch i used to not b into all this rooting and flashing roms but i love trying to find the next new tweak to make my phone more powerful damn you xda!!! damn you!! Haha jk
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I think a lot of people on this site don't face the issue you do since they've been active on the site and didn't foolishily upgrade to the latest OTA when it came out.
I think it's safe to say the majority of the people here in the EVO section still have root

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I think a lot of people on this site don't face the issue you do since they've been active on the site and didn't foolishily upgrade to the latest OTA when it came out.
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I didn't take the OTA, I had to get my phone replaced. Your attitude is unwarranted.

MaxCarnage said:
I didn't take the OTA, I had to get my phone replaced. Your attitude is unwarranted.
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well be more careful with your phone then

deathsled said:
well be more careful with your phone then
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Wow because hardware failure is our fault. You tard.
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Why has the Epic not been EOL'd like the EVO?

Not understanding why Sammy doesn't just EOL the Epic. We already have the next gen out in the wild. And I'm thinking more and more each day that we will never even see 'official' Gingerbread.
Tired of having to keep checking here to see if official 2.3.4 is here and it never is and I crawl back in my hole and cry myself to sleep.
Don't know why I even care, my next phone won't be until the Galaxy S III hits the US. Flame away I guess.

Maybe because the epic touch was released after the evo 3d?
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My theory is that this phone has a lot left in it. For a phone still running Froyo it can still hold its own against Gingerbread phones. This was one of the few Froyo phones to get skype video chat support (even though we can't use the ffc). This phone is. Damn good phone and now with LTE coming mid-2012 no one will want to give it up. Most people with an Evo have moved on to a new phone, Epic owners are still holding on. Plus compared to the Evo Shift this is the best andrid phone with a keyboard and no telling if there will be another. Just my thoughts
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R3537L1F3 said:
My theory is that this phone has a lot left in it. For a phone still running Froyo it can still hold its own against Gingerbread phones. This was one of the few Froyo phones to get skype video chat support (even though we can't use the ffc). This phone is. Damn good phone and now with LTE coming mid-2012 no one will want to give it up. Most people with an Evo have moved on to a new phone, Epic owners are still holding on. Plus compared to the Evo Shift this is the best andrid phone with a keyboard and no telling if there will be another. Just my thoughts
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EOL was supposed to be October but at the bottom of the EOL it said *these dates are subject to change
Obviously they changed for the epic.

Probably because there aren't a lot of high end Android phones with a physical keyboard on Sprint, while there are plenty of ones without. It fills a niche. The EVO doesn't.

I hope this mean they will keep the epic 4g as a mid-range phone and extend its life all throughout 2012.

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http://www.intomobile.com/2011/07/2...-and-more-going-way-old-yeller-coming-months/
right here the epic 4g is end of life this month,,,,
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That article is from July. It could still happen but they changed their plans already...

revol.epic said:
http://www.intomobile.com/2011/07/2...-and-more-going-way-old-yeller-coming-months/
right here the epic 4g is end of life this month,,,,
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With the top saying dates subject to chance. Apparently people don't read things in their entirety and just what they want to see.

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ok you read into it that the chance meant the epic what about the chance meaning one of the other phones like the evo 4g? bottom line is that sprint did announce the end of life epic 4g which is what i said and that they listed it as october which is true. so i did report it correctly and sprint has not said anything to the contrary about it either, so oct is it...
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Outdated list, sprint Has removed it from the list since then. Of course they announced it, but "subject to change" which it has. Here you go.
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2011/09/sprint-end-of-life-listing-updated/
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ok but i still stand by the fact that it was announced. however just because it was not on the other list does not mean anything. It could be that since it was announced no need to state it again or that perhaps sprint is only giving it a month or so longer as verizon is getting the epic 4g 2 (now not apart of the galaxy s series) so we also know that sprint is getting a version as well also not a gs2 or gs.
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Actually they do need to restate them hence the EVO still being there. And the Stratosphere is going to be a galaxy s line phone, and sprint is not getting one.
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ok but i still stand by the fact that it was announced. however just because it was not on the other list does not mean anything. It could be that since it was announced no need to state it again or that perhaps sprint is only giving it a month or so longer as verizon is getting the epic 4g 2 (now not apart of the galaxy s series) so we also know that sprint is getting a version as well also not a gs2 or gs.
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Why would they list the EVO twice if that was the case? Back in July and recent. I understand where you're coming from but this absolutist end of the Epic mood you put into your posts is unneeded. There is no point in complaining, it's a phone, we're on Android. The OS and the phones move so fast that top of the line is end of the line in a matter of days to be figurative. It's not end of line at the moment. It will be but not now.
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I know some were hoping for EOL so they could time their insurance fraud properly to get an upgrade instead of a replacement Epic.

CapsLockKey said:
Probably because there aren't a lot of high end Android phones with a physical keyboard on Sprint, while there are plenty of ones without. It fills a niche. The EVO doesn't.
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Exactly. There isn't a phone that has replaced it yet. I require a physical keyboard for my day to day use of my phone. I have tried to go virtual keyboard and just can't do it. Kind of hard to type shell commands in with virtual keyboard without the frustration of wanting to throw the phone out the window kicking in.

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I know some were hoping for EOL so they could time their insurance fraud properly to get an upgrade instead of a replacement Epic.
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Lol well played.
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The EVO is a piece of crap and the Epic is Epic.
I believe the Epic is Epic and the EVO is dull.

Even if it does get EOL'd...our development here will keep this phone on the map for a LONG time in my opinion!!
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If we ever get source
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if we ever get gingerbread. i think their maybe a newer secret built that we dont know about. i am flashed to revol with working internet and text but mms is no go... tried it with gingerbread and ec05.... but the reason i switched is because of end of life stigma. but lets face it many devs have switched to newer duel core phones and the dev community for epic was good considering we had nowhere near the evo 4g community but people are moving on.
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Yeah, I know some have moved on, but even without GB source right now, we still have some awesome folks out here STILL making improvements to EC05...when GB source gets here, I believe (hopefully) we will see the return of a few. I think this phone will be around for a long time! All my opinion of course ....
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I still think it's a great phone. It does everything I need and I even run my business from it. I remember when the only way to update your OS was to by a new phone or hack it. So I'm not really worried about GB. I can't miss what I never had. Just my $.02

Muckrak3r said:
Not understanding why Sammy doesn't just EOL the Epic. We already have the next gen out in the wild. And I'm thinking more and more each day that we will never even see 'official' Gingerbread.
Tired of having to keep checking here to see if official 2.3.4 is here and it never is and I crawl back in my hole and cry myself to sleep.
Don't know why I even care, my next phone won't be until the Galaxy S III hits the US. Flame away I guess.
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Dude because not everyone goes and buys a new phone once they come out not everyone has money nor wants to do that. PLAIN IN SIMPLE.