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Ok so i emailed Samsung about why they removed jp6..and what is the deal with JPM and JP6..
this is their response..
Dear Customer,
It is right JPM is a base firmware.
But open source code is same both JPM and JP#.
And file name that removed a week ago had a same name GT-I9000_OpenSource_Froyo_update_JPM.zip.
As I know, firmware update for GT-I9000''s Froyo version is already published on October 15, in Nordic Europe.
Do your question - ''samsung has removed jp6 from the Netherlands ..?'' - means public firmware? or open source code?
If it means public firmware, please send mail to technical support desk of your local samsung webpage.
( Please make use of Service for your product or Contact Us corner. )
This email address is just for open source request.
Thank you!
Sincerely yours,
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so according to them..Nordic europe has already been publish..and yes is true but..they didnt say why it was withdrawn...
Hey,
just read that major german carriers are rolling out ICS today. Deutsche Telekom seems to be offering the update from today on. Anyone has checked this out yet? Maybe there's a new build coming .....
bobab
XWLP7 (Germany)
http://www.hotfile.com/dl/153045490/b1212f7/I9100XWLP7_I9100DBTLP5_DBT.zip.html
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worth mentioning is aalso fact that changelist number is latest 340913
download with no waiting
http://samsung-updates.com/device/?id=GT-I9100
IWillExplain said:
worth mentioning is aalso fact that changelist number is latest 340913
download with no waiting
http://samsung-updates.com/device/?id=GT-I9100
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Not really.. Australia rom has more changes..
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robsoniqe said:
Not really.. Australia rom has more changes..
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Larf Larf larf .
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robsoniqe said:
Not really.. Australia rom has more changes..
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what does a higher change number bring you, when most of the changes done is by the carrier who (most of the time) does change things to the worst.
i'd always prefer an open firmware (like the german one) to a carrier f'd up firmware with a slightly higher build number
v1rtu4l said:
what does a higher change number bring you, when most of the changes done is by the carrier who (most of the time) does change things to the worst.
i'd always prefer an open firmware (like the german one) to a carrier f'd up firmware with a slightly higher build number
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I am just saying is higher (changelog) .. Not better so easy in second hand i dont think so that the only changes are for worse like 3d app..
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v1rtu4l said:
what does a higher change number bring you, when most of the changes done is by the carrier who (most of the time) does change things to the worst.
i'd always prefer an open firmware (like the german one) to a carrier f'd up firmware with a slightly higher build number
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So what you're saying is each carrier increases the Changelist count.
Which means the next firmware you get with an even higher changelist count will already include the supposed carrier changes.
The changelist refers to the android framework and kernel changes.
It has nothing to do with the carrier. It's manufactured and developed by samsung.
victorator said:
So what you're saying is each carrier increases the Changelist count.
Which means the next firmware you get with an even higher changelist count will already include the supposed carrier changes.
The changelist refers to the android framework and kernel changes.
It has nothing to do with the carrier. It's manufactured and developed by samsung.
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are you sure about that ?
of course carrier changes by carrier A will not get carried over to carrier B !
my understanding is:
google delivers an build with buildnumber with Changelist X
now carrier A fiddles around with that build to customize it which will result in an Changelist value of X+Y (Y being the customer changes)
carrier B might get the same build by google and fiddle around less with it
the resulting changelist value of X gets added by Z (Z being carrier B changes) which is a lower value
just because changelist in rom B is lower than in rom A doesn't make rom A "newer"...
for a better understanding i will put numbers and names into it:
google releases a android 4.0.3 build to carriers with a changelist of 200'000.
verizon takes that build and customizes it which results in their rom having a changelist of 230'000.
at&t takes the same build (with changelist of 200'000) and adds fewer changes, resulting in their rom having a changelist of 210'000.
does that mean that verizons rom is newer ? no, it's just that they made more changes to the available stock/vanila build by android.
in the end people want newer vanila builds and not the latest carrier changes!
so a carrier rom with changelist 350'000 is probably based on an older build than an open rom with a changelist of 340'000.
v1rtu4l said:
are you sure about that ?
of course carrier changes by carrier A will not get carried over to carrier B !
my understanding is:
google delivers an build with buildnumber with Changelist X
now carrier A fiddles around with that build to customize it which will result in an Changelist value of X+Y (Y being the customer changes)
carrier B might get the same build by google and fiddle around less with it
the resulting changelist value of X gets added by Z (Z being carrier B changes) which is a lower value
just because changelist in rom B is lower than in rom A doesn't make rom A "newer"...
for a better understanding i will put numbers and names into it:
google releases a android 4.0.3 build to carriers with a changelist of 200'000.
verizon takes that build and customizes it which results in their rom having a changelist of 230'000.
at&t takes the same build (with changelist of 200'000) and adds fewer changes, resulting in their rom having a changelist of 210'000.
does that mean that verizons rom is newer ? no, it's just that they made more changes to the available stock/vanila build by android.
in the end people want newer vanila builds and not the latest carrier changes!
so a carrier rom with changelist 350'000 is probably based on an older build than an open rom with a changelist of 340'000.
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What happens if we get another XWLP8, unbranded this time?
Does it mean that samsung accepted the carrier changes and implemented them into their generic build?
This has happened many times in the past.
The only rational explanation is that XWLP8 is simply newer and has more bugs fixed than XWLP7.
No, of course not. there are three parties involved here. Google, samsung and the Carrier. The order is fixed and does imply that a carrier change will not be applied to the next samsung rom, just like a samsung change will not be applied to the next vanilla Android build, since google has no interest to modify their base build to incorporate changes that add functions for samsung phones just as samsung won't apply a carrier modification to their general build, because it does not make any sense to have modifications that make a device work better on only one Carrier and worse on others.
I think you live in the illusion that a carrier would actually add features to a ROM that every user would benefit from which is just not true
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So does it make for an german user any difference to flash this firmware over the lp8 one ?
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IWillExplain said:
worth mentioning is aalso fact that changelist number is latest 340913
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..../device/?id=GT-I9100
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Can I just flash this via Odin (one file -> PDA) over my current CM9 nightly? Or do I need a kernel as well?
No - just wipe and flash.
Hi guys...excuse my newbieNESS I am seeing this abbreviation over and over again, what is LPY or LPF? I've searched here and google, I didn't find anything.
yellowpad said:
Hi guys...excuse my newbieNESS I am seeing this abbreviation over and over again, what is LPY or LPF? I've searched here and google, I didn't find anything.
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They are stock ICS roms
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To be more precise they are specific region ROMs.
LPY is open Germany
LPF is Taiwan
basically if your Galaxy Note is for that specific region you can get ICS update OTA or through Kies.
You can put these ROMs on any unlocked Galaxy Note but you'll have to do it manually through PC Odin from SamFirmware site.
Dammit, stop abbreviating ICS build codes without the region/carrier code!
XXLPY = Official ICS release for the XX region (which is most of Europe)
ZSLPF = Official ICS release for the ZS region (Taiwan)
Samsung build codes:
First two letters: Region
Third letter: Year
Fourth letter: Month of year for Gingerbread, P for ICS (except UC region = AT&T, which continues using proper month codes)
Fifth number/letter: Build of month (or, for ICS, build sequence for that region.)
Samsung's replacement of month with P = epic fail - they've almost exhausted their sequence codes already. (up to Y for XX region). Don't know if they'll bump the P up to Q or what.
Entropy512 said:
Dammit, stop abbreviating ICS build codes without the region/carrier code!
XXLPY = Official ICS release for the XX region (which is most of Europe)
ZSLPF = Official ICS release for the ZS region (Taiwan)
Samsung build codes:
First two letters: Region
Third letter: Year
Fourth letter: Month of year for Gingerbread, P for ICS (except UC region = AT&T, which continues using proper month codes)
Fifth number/letter: Build of month (or, for ICS, build sequence for that region.)
Samsung's replacement of month with P = epic fail - they've almost exhausted their sequence codes already. (up to Y for XX region). Don't know if they'll bump the P up to Q or what.
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LPY
Entropy512 said:
Dammit, stop abbreviating ICS build codes without the region/carrier code!
XXLPY = Official ICS release for the XX region (which is most of Europe)
ZSLPF = Official ICS release for the ZS region (Taiwan)
Samsung build codes:
First two letters: Region
Third letter: Year
Fourth letter: Month of year for Gingerbread, P for ICS (except UC region = AT&T, which continues using proper month codes)
Fifth number/letter: Build of month (or, for ICS, build sequence for that region.)
Samsung's replacement of month with P = epic fail - they've almost exhausted their sequence codes already. (up to Y for XX region). Don't know if they'll bump the P up to Q or what.
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LPF
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thanks so much for the explanation.......
Entropy512 said:
Dammit, stop abbreviating ICS build codes without the region/carrier code!
XXLPY = Official ICS release for the XX region (which is most of Europe)
ZSLPF = Official ICS release for the ZS region (Taiwan)
Samsung build codes:
First two letters: Region
Third letter: Year
Fourth letter: Month of year for Gingerbread, P for ICS (except UC region = AT&T, which continues using proper month codes)
Fifth number/letter: Build of month (or, for ICS, build sequence for that region.)
Samsung's replacement of month with P = epic fail - they've almost exhausted their sequence codes already. (up to Y for XX region). Don't know if they'll bump the P up to Q or what.
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LPY
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trolololol... they are mocking entropy... stop quoting him and posting the same thing over and over, or you will get banned..
Why people keep saying ZSLPF is for Taiwan?
ZS is the samsung country code for Hong Kong. Taiwan is ZT.
I cannot find any taiwan stuff inside this rom. But the hong kong IME is there.
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trolololol... they are mocking entropy... stop quoting him and posting the same thing over and over, or you will get banned..
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Well, if one user made repeated identical posts, I could see it being problematic. But do you really think banning someone for a single post is appropriate? I could understand a mod(not a senior member) giving a warning or something if it got out of hand. But three people having a laugh doesn't do any harm. I'm sure this will get locked at some point, but WTF man? If you would just let this thread die, nobody would post anything in it. But you had to bump it. What exactly were you hoping to accomplish? Just let the thread die if you don't want stupid posts in it.
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you are bumping the thread as well.. haha... just kidding about the ban lol,
kids these days..
LPY working fine here
Hello,
I remember from older phones, you could find where your devices was made, by looking at the 7th and 8th digit of the IMEI. I want to buy a I9505 phone and I am concerned about the quality of the device, the 7th and 8th digits are 06 which means the phone was made in China.
Does this rule still applies?
just check the CSC code, using *#1234#
the letters in the middle shows you the version from the region,
ex.: I9505BTUFNB3
BTU stands for UK
I checked the IMEI with Samsung and they said that the phone is for France (I don't live there by the way). Also from what I know France has yet to receive 4.4.2 version. That means my phone will not update?
ShadowReaperGR said:
I checked the IMEI with Samsung and they said that the phone is for France (I don't live there by the way). Also from what I know France has yet to receive 4.4.2 version. That means my phone will not update?
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Ur phone have CSC of france, this mean it will be receive the updates of the french firmware. You can travel to other part of the world and u will still receiving that updates :highfive:
ShadowReaperGR said:
I checked the IMEI with Samsung and they said that the phone is for France (I don't live there by the way). Also from what I know France has yet to receive 4.4.2 version. That means my phone will not update?
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France 1 part of info, what about CSC in your phone?
For example XEF France.
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ShadowReaperGR said:
Hello,
I remember from older phones, you could find where your devices was made, by looking at the 7th and 8th digit of the IMEI. I want to buy a I9505 phone and I am concerned about the quality of the device, the 7th and 8th digits are 06 which means the phone was made in China.
Does this rule still applies?
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06 means This Year phones and can be from UK, but not from China coz they have I9500 not I9505
I have not bought the phone yet. Just asked for the IMEI number and checked it with Samsung
ShadowReaperGR said:
I have not bought the phone yet. Just asked for the IMEI number and checked it with Samsung
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You are right, Kitkat not yet released for France. (BOG FTM XEF etc) They have now JB only.
What the heck is it? Is there an thread or FAQ on csc? Some times when I flash a rom it doesn't seem to matter other times boom! Big mess no 4G etc. Help!
I did actually try to search for some info on this before posting. Search doesn't work well for me in the xda app. Can barely use it on a computer. Any info you have would be of help
you could try google sometime, its almost your best friend :thumbup:
The Customer Service Code (CSC) plays an important role in the operation of your Samsung mobile device. Different countries have different standards for both voice and data communications to a cell phone tower. Although most countries follow the international standard for WiFi connects, there are variations from the standard. The CSC code ensures that your mobile device complies with the standards for your country, and your cell phone operator. The CSC code also determines the source for firmware updates via FOTA*or Samsung Kies.
The terminology used by various Internet sites is confusing. The CSC firmware code contains a number of fields, including the model number,*product code, and build date. The three characters after the model number are the product code. However, the product code is also called the CSC code, country code, or sales code. In actuality, the product code is either a sales code that defines the actual vendor, or a multi-csc code that represents a group of sales codes. Following are the possible scenarios:
The product code is a sales code that identifies a specific cell operator. This code is called a branded code, as the device boots with the operators logo, and contains operator apps.The product code is a sales code that is an open (unbranded) code. With this code, the device boots with the Samsung logo, and only includes Samsung apps.The product code is a multi-csc*code. These codes are commonly used for phones sold by independent vendors. Your mobile device still needs a source for software. The*/system/csc/sales_code.dat*file defines the sales code used for software updates. The easy way to get this information is with the "Phone INFO" app. The multi-csc group must include this sales code. The sales codes can be:The code is the open / unbranded code for the same country.
Warning!!!
Changing the CSC / product code on your Samsung device may invalidate the warranty. It may also invalidate the Samsung Knox warranty for Samsung devices
that support Samsung Knox. Furthermore, there is no guarantee that flashing new firmware will work, even when you flash valid firmware.
In many cases, flashing the sane firmware a second, or third, time may work.
Following are examples of cases in which you may want to change the CSC / product code:
If you move to another country, you may wish to change the CSC / product code to one that matches your new home. You just need to remember that not every Samsung model is sold in every country. Furthermore, not all models are available for every sales code, including the open (unbranded) codes.If you purchased a branded phone, you may wish to change the CSC / product code to an unbranded sales code. Again, there is no guarantee that an unbranded version of firmware exists for your model that is compatible with the cell phone frequencies in your country.You may wish to upgrade to new a new version of Android that is not yet available from your current sales code.
Following are some guidelines for selecting the correct firmware:
Use the "Phone INFO" app to obtain information about your current firmware. I recommend exporting the information, and printing the resulting text file. Should you need to restore the current firmware, you have a log of the current firmware values.You must use firmware that matches the model number, including all sub-codes. For example, the Samsung Galaxy S5*has more than 15 different model numbers. Each model was built for a specific market, and often has slightly different hardware. Some cell phone operators have custom models that only work on their cellular network.Unless you must have firmware branded by a specific cell phone operator, I recommend using firmware from and open (unbranded) sales code. The*sales code table*will help you find these codes.If your current phone has a multi-csc code, your best chance of finding the correct firmware is to select an unbranded sales code that uses the same multi-csc code. The*multi-csc table*list the sales codes that are members of each multi-csc group.For firmware that uses a multi-csc code, you need to select a sales code before attempting to connect to a cellular network. This is especially true for 3G and 4G connections. There are two ways to select a sales code:Enter *#06# in the phone dialer to obtain the IMEI number for the device. You can then enter *#272*Device IMEI# to select a sales code. If your Samsung device does not return a menu, the product code is not a multi-csc code.Install an CSC changer app, such as the "Phone INFO"*app. CSC changer apps do require root access, and they do not work on all phones and all versions of Android
Here is my phone info. When it boots it just says Samsung. Thanks for all your help!
So like if I flash a custom rom how do I keep my csc from changing? Do you think my csc is a sales code or a country code?
Pretty much hate csc. Wish s5 didn't even have them what good are they? Pain in the but
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So like if I flash a custom rom how do I keep my csc from changing? Do you think my csc is a sales code or a country code?
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CSC wont change i think