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Bravo screen leaked

Confirms what many (including myself) already knew - bravo is a different phone from nexus one altogther running sense ui.
http://mobilenews.omio.com/mobile-p...-sony-ericsson-xperia-x10-due-for-q1-release/

Very nice.
Still prefer the nexus one though. Optical trackpad is definitely better ((especially since the n1 trackball light is currently unsotimizable thus useless)). But the button layout I dont like. Sense UI slows down updates too much.
Knowing I can always have it as an option if rooted it comes down to hardware.
Question.... if the Bravo does HD recording is that something that can be ported ot N1. Or is the actual hardware limited ?

Sense? We don't need bloated skins. We need openness! And a KEYBOARD! And that nipplepointer looks like it'll be a pain to use.

Other than the optical track pad I like everything about the Nexus more. When the sense Tom comes out I'll flash it until Froyo is released.

some HTC sense loving would be nice on the N1... missing a few of the little things here and there.

Sorry this is a Nexus One§ Thread close.

DHD or Nexus S

After using HTC Magic for 1.5 years I'm seriously considering getting a new phone. My two main options are Nexus S and DHD.
How are your phones treating you guys? Would you recommend going with a DHD or the S?
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You asking this in the Desire HD forum, what kind of answer do you expect?
Go with the Desire HD of course lol

I've thought about grabbing a nexus but there it's just too little going on in their development thread to make me want to. I'm wondering if, in these challenging economic times, a lot of devs are sticking with the nexus one. After all the nexus s is only a small jump ahead in spec.
The worst thing about the nexus s is that there are no sense roms. I've come to the conclusion that sense is just better. I mean vanilla aosp doesn't even include a fm radio and this is 2011. What are you thinking Google?
Someone swyped my idea.

By using default Sense as your launcher you gain two things:
1. HTC Widgets
2. General integrity with your phone UI
Main downsides of Sense:
1. Application space in home screen dock, you cannot add any application to Sense dock
2. Missing eye candy: e.g. home screen transition effects
3. General smoothness. Sense is actually very unsmooth. You might not realize this if you haven't used LauncherPro, which is the smoothest launcher at the moment
Only real thing I lose by not using Sense are HTC widgets. But I've found a corresponding replacement for every HTC widget I want. Even the lovely "Sync All" widget.
So basically if you look at the pros and cons of Sense UI, it really makes me laugh when people say "Sense just makes sense"

Fihlvein said:
By using default Sense as your launcher you gain two things:
1. HTC Widgets
2. General integrity with your phone UI
Main downsides of Sense:
1. Application space in home screen dock, you cannot add any application to Sense dock
2. Missing eye candy: e.g. home screen transition effects
3. General smoothness. Sense is actually very unsmooth. You might not realize this if you haven't used LauncherPro, which is the smoothest launcher at the moment
Only real thing I lose by not using Sense are HTC widgets. But I've found a corresponding replacement for every HTC widget I want. Even the lovely "Sync All" widget.
So basically if you look at the pros and cons of Sense UI, it really makes me laugh when people say "Sense just makes sense"
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Funny you say that. I find launcher pro to be slow and a bit buggy at times. Everytime I have flashed a aosp rom, I have always gone back to stock HTC sense. I find it better and has a nice UI and integration.
As for the question, having asked in the desire HD forum, your going to get a biuased lean towards the desire hd of course. Having said that desire HD ftw .

A few weeks ago I was due an upgrade so was in a similar position - DHD, Nexus S or Galaxy S. On paper each one had things I liked so I did a few weeks worth of reading reviews, checking out videos, checking them out in a shop, looking at development progress on XDA etc.
In the end I went for the DHD, mainly down to:
1/ Build quality. HTC build some very nice phones, the DHD being no exception. It has a nice weight to it and feels like the expensive piece of equipment that it is. The SGS and Nexus S on the otherhand, felt like cheap iPhone copies. Really quite plasticy and flimsy looking.
2/ Sense UI. It's what sold me on HTC phones in the 1st place and I love how it integrates with the phone. I've always dabbled with other ROMs and launchers but in the end I'm back on Sense. It's not perfect but using a custom ROM like Android Revolution HD you can get it super smooth and if transition animations are your thing then you can add those too... along with most other mods and customisations.
3/ RFS, GPS issues and lag. Go check the SGS section for details.
4/ Samsung seem to release phones and then stop supporting them, whereas HTC seem to be a little bit better at this.
That's probably as unbiased as I can be... so go buy a DHD and well see you back here soon

The NS has got week specs..... its just a N1 with a samoled screen and a SGS inside lol

CitizenLee said:
4/ Samsung seem to release phones and then stop supporting them, whereas HTC seem to be a little bit better at this.
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the NS has nothing to do with samsung after it leaves the factory, its the official google developer device, so all updates and support come straight from google.

AndroHero said:
the NS has nothing to do with samsung after it leaves the factory, its the official google developer device, so all updates and support come straight from google.
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I was generalising about the very similar situation I found myself in. See 1st paragraph

CitizenLee said:
I was generalising about the very similar situation I found myself in. See 1st paragraph
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duh sorry mate i was speed reading lol

AndroHero said:
duh sorry mate i was speed reading lol
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Haha... no worries, it's easily done.
If I had a £1 for every post I've misread I could buy us all a new DHD

Tbh Sense was the thing that got me sold on HTC phones in the beginning, now after 3 different HTC phones and more experience with flashin and other apps I defenatly cant say i have not found any better launcher app than ADW EX, its so many custom ways to use it, including expanding number of apps on homescreen, dock layout of choice etc, the best is if you get yourself Beautiful widgets or simular and other cool stuff, you can match HTC widgets easy, the thing i miss is really the deep integration with the apps and OS none other has managed.

DHD without a doubt. I find HTC kit extremely reliable. I think the nexus S looks too plasticy.

I had 4 nexus s phones and all had faults... in the end I gave up and got a wonderful HD.. best move ever... The nexus s is the sexiest phone in the world, but performance wise it isn't a scratch on the HD. Of my 4 nexus s, 3 had weird colour changes on the screen due to the curved glass and one had really poor wifi, the weird colours was strange, one had a piss green hue, and another had a purple haze, not at all like the cool blue of the Samsung galaxy s. But my 4 phones was from the first batch The DHD is a 9/10 and the nexus s is a 7/10. And the 7 points is because its the prettiest phone in the whole universe
JD
Sent from my Ginger Garnished HTC Desire HD

Rosjer said:
Tbh Sense was the thing that got me sold on HTC phones in the beginning, now after 3 different HTC phones and more experience with flashin and other apps I defenatly cant say i have not found any better launcher app than ADW EX, its so many custom ways to use it, including expanding number of apps on homescreen, dock layout of choice etc, the best is if you get yourself Beautiful widgets or simular and other cool stuff, you can match HTC widgets easy, the thing i miss is really the deep integration with the apps and OS none other has managed.
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spb are working on mobile shell for android, i got my beta testers email the other day i think this could be the first sence beater

HTC sense?

I've switched from HTC Diamond2 (windows mobile 6.5x) to S/E Arc, and I miss the HTC interface.
Is it possible to load the android equivalent to this hardware?

Get beautiful widget + Sense theme for ADW launcher

vegetaleb said:
Get beautiful widget + Sense theme for ADW launcher
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thanks

Thanks vegetaleb for the reply! I see that it is possible to mimic the home screen layout really well. However, what Im looking for was the part of Sense that handled calendar related stuff like booking a meeting. In detail, I liked how the clock was changed like it was on a spinning wheel - which made it possible to change the time really fast. Maybe there is something similar in the Android world?

I am missing some Sense apps as well, like the slide down Alarm that you will never find in other apps, if it was a Nexus One with 90% same components as HTC own phones you can ''port'' Sense into it by a custom rom, but when the hardwares are totally different here it's very difficult to do it.
SGS devs tried to port Desire rom but they never could, and they tried hard...
I hope you didn't see the new Sense 3.0, you will return to HTC once Sensation is out

vegetaleb said:
I am missing some Sense apps as well, like the slide down Alarm that you will never find in other apps, if it was a Nexus One with 90% same components as HTC own phones you can ''port'' Sense into it by a custom rom, but when the hardwares are totally different here it's very difficult to do it.
SGS devs tried to port Desire rom but they never could, and they tried hard...
I hope you didn't see the new Sense 3.0, you will return to HTC once Sensation is out
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The phones hardware is identical to (apart from smaller storage,screen etc) to the Desire HD, it would be very portable to this device although the smaller storage would make it harder.

Small storage is not a problem, on N1 the DHD port was working great thanks to EXT3 of 1gb on SD

From sense to touchwiz

Always had HTC phones currently the desire HD,been waiting to see what they had to offer and have to say the x1 doesn't do it for me,so thinking of jumping ship and waiting for the SGS3.thing is I really like HTC sense.So to any former HTC user now with the SGS2 and touchwiz,how did you find the transition,can you get it set up to suit and what should I be aware of if making the jump once the SGS3 is out
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Transition is pretty easy. I never found sense very useful (in a global way) but it's really pretty. I think touchwiz is the opposite. It's kind of ugly with all these shiny icons but it's discret and have a few cool features (especially around the notification bar).
Plus, TW is a lot snappier than sense used to be (didn't get to try newer HTC devices). I even find TW snappier than any launcher you can find on the market.

I moved from desire z to sgs2, and I must say that touchwiz was a big disappointment to me.
It's not hard to get used to touchwiz, but it will be hard to get used with the missing features, for me the most annoying thing was that the dial pad can not search after the second name, I mean if you want to search for "combat goofwing" and you type in the dial pad 4663 for "goof" it will not find anything.
Another annoying thing is that in the app drawer the apps are not sorted in alphabetical order, they are sorted in the install order, and you can move them around but I don't have the patience to move apps around, for me this makes apps harder to find.
I own this phone for a few mounts now and I used to it, but I still miss sense.
The hardware is great, I still can't believe how good the display is, everything works very smooth, but unfortunately touchwiz is light years behind sense.
Any way I'm sorry I didn't bought the sensation, but my next phone will definitely be a HTC.

You can always choose alphabetical listing option. Move to a custom ROM, the phone rocks.
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ionut.micu said:
I moved from desire z to sgs2, and I must say that touchwiz was a big disappointment to me.
It's not hard to get used to touchwiz, but it will be hard to get used with the missing features, for me the most annoying thing was that the dial pad can not search after the second name, I mean if you want to search for "combat goofwing" and you type in the dial pad 4663 for "goof" it will not find anything.
Another annoying thing is that in the app drawer the apps are not sorted in alphabetical order, they are sorted in the install order, and you can move them around but I don't have the patience to move apps around, for me this makes apps harder to find.
I own this phone for a few mounts now and I used to it, but I still miss sense.
The hardware is great, I still can't believe how good the display is, everything works very smooth, but unfortunately touchwiz is light years behind sense.
Any way I'm sorry I didn't bought the sensation, but my next phone will definitely be a HTC.
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Ditto for me, I think I will go buy a One S or X; there are just so many little things missing from touchwizz compared to sense ( I don't mean just the launchers but all the apps htc and samsung, include or modify); don't get me wrong touchwiz is not bad at all, especially compared to stock android but it's just not as good as sense.

Used to have a htc desire before my SGS2.. the only things I liked about sense 2.1 was the lockscreen that gives the caller/texter name at the bottom, instead of a little numbered flagged like touchwiz (being honest I know I could get widgetlocker and get that back but don't mind the sammy lockscreen that much) and I liked the screen unlock weather animations (which I have on my SGS2 courtesy of Beautiful Widgets)
The rest of sense wasn't that great, the contacts app is a little more intuitive than SGS2's but not really an issue
Oh, the touchwiz launcher is pretty useless, but I've been using LauncherPro since day 1

Beautiful widgets' superclock is just annoying, I disabled the animations because you see them everyone time you unlock unlike sense where you will only see it when the widget is visible. Also better in sense : keyboard (best touchscreen keyboard), friends pictures in the gallery, friendstream, sense unlockscreen with shortcuts, dialer, app drawers.

i dont really care because when i get a phone i just put cm on it')
Sent from my SGS2 powered by cm9 love

I have an amaze 4g and my wife has the tmobile sgs2. We both are from the htc g2 running sense. She loves how simple TW is, but she says its missing quite a bit of things she liked, all little things but none the less missing them.
I my self hate TW seems like a child's launcher in a way.
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I miss the dialer and contact screen from Sense. I can get everything else with some minor modifications and apps so it's not a big deal. Shame for the contacts and dialer though.

Touchwiz is fast, unobtrusive and smooth, but in stock form, very, very ugly and lacking in features.
Mind you I've always found HTC Android phones somewhat unresponsive and glitchy.
The only flavour of Android I get on with now is AOSP ICS. Its a big improvement to me. That said, my next phone might not be Android, I might give WP7 a go. I've had a few tries and it is starting to look like a fantastically polished OS, and flashing ROMs all the time is beginning to lose its appeal. It may not have the apps, or the flexibility, or capability, but it makes up for it in other ways.

I haven't seen or used sense, but I know how unfulfilling TW feels. For me, flashing and playing around with MI-UI did the trick. It's the perfect combination of neatness and usefulness. Combined with minor add-ons (such as a new keyboard, kernel, ...) it turns out to be the most stable and enjoyable rom I have ever used. Check it out (google miuandroid).

HTC all the way!
I had htc desire hd which i still have and love. I then got htc sensation and the missus got a sgs2 she hates the user interface and loves the htc user interface. If your looking for something that will in my opinion be comparable to the iphone then htc all the way.

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I had htc desire hd which i still have and love. I then got htc sensation and the missus got a sgs2 she hates the user interface and loves the htc user interface. If your looking for something that will in my opinion be comparable to the iphone then htc all the way.
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For an iphone-ish look I strongly recommend the previously mentioned MIUI rom.

For me, I don't know. I couldn't do Sense. I liked the graphics and what not - but I found the user-interface a bit stubborn. Touchwiz was clean and simple.

I have the desire s and SII, and I like sense better than TW.
Sense feels like it's more developed than TW.
For me software htc > samsung and hardware htc < samsung.
So SII with sense would be great for me personally.

ionut.micu said:
I moved from desire z to sgs2, and I must say that touchwiz was a big disappointment to me.
It's not hard to get used to touchwiz, but it will be hard to get used with the missing features, for me the most annoying thing was that the dial pad can not search after the second name, I mean if you want to search for "combat goofwing" and you type in the dial pad 4663 for "goof" it will not find anything.
Another annoying thing is that in the app drawer the apps are not sorted in alphabetical order, they are sorted in the install order, and you can move them around but I don't have the patience to move apps around, for me this makes apps harder to find.
I own this phone for a few mounts now and I used to it, but I still miss sense.
The hardware is great, I still can't believe how good the display is, everything works very smooth, but unfortunately touchwiz is light years behind sense.
Any way I'm sorry I didn't bought the sensation, but my next phone will definitely be a HTC.
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Download appzorter from market. Rearrange apps alphabetically. Simples
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Thx, unfortunelley "this app is not compatiblewith youre device" maby it's because I'm ussing LPH rom, but it's good to know.
And I forgot to say, I came from a long series of HTC phones (diamond, touch pro, touch pro 2, wildfire, desire z), all of them are still in use today and work great, guess wich phone needed to go to service becsause microusb port mallfunction after a few mount of use... exactly the sgs2.

Great feedback thanks,having seen the videos of the new HTC X1 now I may just stick with HTC still lots to look at
Thanks again
sent from my leedroid powered Desire HD

combat goofwing said:
Great feedback thanks,having seen the videos of the new HTC X1 now I may just stick with HTC still lots to look at
Thanks again
sent from my leedroid powered Desire HD
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I think it's a pretty tough choice between the X and S, they both have their pros and cons (S has the more powerful CPU(in spite of the 4 cores of the tegra3) and AMOLED; X the more powerful GPU, more storage and higher DPI)

galaxy s 2 vs desire HD question

i have the desire HD, my friend has the samsung, his screen looks absolutely amazing, its so clear, crisps and clean, my desire looks cloudy and nowhere near as bright side by side, do us HTC users have a rom that is going to make my phone as nice without having to pay for a whole new handset? i do find the sense overlay to be messy now, it was good at one point but now its just muddled...

I came from original galaxy s to my inspire and have always thought the display was horrible??
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Well Yes and No.
hardware wise
The screen is just plain LCD(or Slcd ) and will never be as vibrant as galaxy s2' S Amoled screen which is able to produce deep blacks and deeper colours.
BUT
Software wise: sense has this "glossy" theme which can be arguably clunky and ugly at times. The s2 A's software interface is more streamlined and less cluttered, which probably is more pleasing to the eye.
You can have a similar UI to the samsung S2 by downloading AOSp roms like CM7 OR MIUI.IMO this makes the screen seem "less cloudy" . Check it out at the development section?
Sent from my HTC Desire HD

currently running a miui rom, but just seems like an iphone port, have tried cyanogen before, but couldnt be bothered to tweak the home screen, saw some beauties around but dont have time to do much.
maybe i`ll book a week off work and have a mess around...
cheers guys.

try reducing your screen dpi if its supported by your rom. Its somehow a new handset experience...
To the Amoled Screens: my brother has the galaxy s and a friend the s2...both screens i find ether blueish or greenish. which they told me came with time.

t3rm3y said:
currently running a miui rom, but just seems like an iphone port, have tried cyanogen before, but couldnt be bothered to tweak the home screen, saw some beauties around but dont have time to do much.
maybe i`ll book a week off work and have a mess around...
cheers guys.
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Week off of work is not needed just look at all the themes miui has to off on miui.is and miuiandroid and you will be happy currently I'm on sense 3.5 but thinking to go back its alot faster and themes are endless
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