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Must See!!! Amazing!!!!

My friends sisters cousins boyfriends dog sitter just got back from the swampy region in Antartica, and you'll never guess what he brought back! A 15 inch widescreen iPhone which runs windows mobile! Other than that, it quad boots from those two monsters, to run the psp platform, linux, windowsVista, and atari! PLUS THATS NOT ALL!!! Its powered by a hampster in a wheel which come with a custom water bottle (for more SPEED)!!! And just when I thought it couldnt get any better, THERE WAS MORE!!!! When you hit the red button located on the atari screen, your able to use it as a can opener, screw driver, and hair drier! Plus we just downloaded a freeware program which unlocked the MICROWAVE & TOASTER OVEN FUNCTION! This thing is also equipped wth 22 inch Giovani spinners and two kenwood 12inch subs. Its also a good babysitter for those long nights out! Im no tech, but Ill post pics in 3564 years! Keep asking thou, I may do it tomorrow when I get off work from the multi million dollar company I own called Microsoft! By the way Can some one please tell me how to get coverflow to work with s2p while still having the artists listed as seperat folders?
I fig Id get a few hundred replies this way! Fu** you t.kilgore86, phillips_tech, and TechRev! I hope you all got to iPhone he** and steve jobs rapes you apple style! Sorry for the bluntness fellows!

What the heck is the point of this thread? You've posted pretty much the same thing in other threads and yet decide that it was important and funny enough to make a new thread, I disagree. You are spamming the forum just as much as the people you listed.

Stop spamming our forums and don't post on here again.

Apparently the full might of the Mod needs to be exercised.

No kiddn'
What the &*$# is with this lately?

Why not ALL?
Why not ban them all? That would solve it!

RaBBitHolE said:
Why not ban them all? That would solve it!
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not to be an a-hole or anything but you have 2 posts, lets leave the banning up to the mods

spencepu3 said:
not to be an a-hole or anything but you have 2 posts, lets leave the banning up to the mods
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And I have more posts than you... tada!

I am amazed !!!

Sorry, but I have to laugh! I thought it was witty

See the point
Im not disagreeing with the mods. This guy should have been banned. But I dont disagree with vogue_trip either. I mean look at it. This guy made up a post that everyone knew was fake. Apparently used three screen names to do it, and its still not closed. Its pulled alot of time away from peoples threads that were serious. XDA is by far the best sight around. Anyone with a PPC comes here for every answer there is. The guy who started all of this is a joke and in my opinion doesnt deserve the benefits from this amazing sight. I noticed he was doing similar things @ ppcgeeks as well. So I dont disagree with this guys frustration but h went about it all wrong. So Im sticking with my opinion, 2 posts or a milliion. They all need ban. They dont deserve the excellent services on this site.

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And I have more posts than you... tada!
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I don't remember claiming I had the most posts on this forum, I just said to leave the banning up to the mods

master athlon said:
Stop spamming our forums and don't post on here again.
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You guys have no sense of humor. That was one of the funniest posts I've seen on here in forever and you want to ban him?
Give me a break. We need more of that to break the air of seriousness over here. vogue_trip's ban will only serve to promote the lack of humor over here.

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You guys have no sense of humor. That was one of the funniest posts I've seen on here in forever and you want to ban him?
Give me a break. We need more of that to break the air of seriousness over here. vogue_trip's ban will only serve to promote the lack of humor over here.
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If u wanna have fun go to General , About and trash area of the Forum..better yet logout

neilson said:
You guys have no sense of humor. That was one of the funniest posts I've seen on here in forever and you want to ban him?
Give me a break. We need more of that to break the air of seriousness over here. vogue_trip's ban will only serve to promote the lack of humor over here.
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I have a sense of humor, that just wasn't funny at all.

spencepu3 said:
I have a sense of humor, that just wasn't funny at all.
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i too agree with that..if HTC releases its Drivers..now that would be Funny

New roms vs original

Hello,
I've been looking around at all the roms etc and their change logs. They look like big improvements, so I updated to CM stable (worked fine, a little bit slow now and then) now I'm using the latest one which is meant to be the fastest but I find it hangs a lot, and is slow quite often.
Is anyone seeing this or is it just my phone.
I also have a question, when I shake my phone I can hear this ratteling sound, is that normal? my phone isn't new
Thanks.

theoneonly said:
I also have a question, when I shake my phone I can hear this ratteling sound, is that normal? my phone isn't new
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No it shouldn't do that, everything should be secure.

theoneonly said:
I also have a question, when I shake my phone I can hear this ratteling sound, is that normal? my phone isn't new
Thanks.
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what a ridiculous question.

Well I bought it used, and I only hear it sometimes like if i move it in a certain direction then it stops.

theoneonly said:
Well I bought it used, and I only hear it sometimes like if i move it in a certain direction then it stops.
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yes that is weird

brian_v3ntura said:
what a ridiculous question.
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you strike me as the type of person who has a bunch of e-friends but few if any real ones.

DMaverick50 said:
you strike me as the type of person who has a bunch of e-friends but few if any real ones.
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how? becuz i think its dumb if something is moving and rattling and ask if its bad. but anyways ur make a personal attack =)
and i do have lots of friends made over . esp from playing sports. and i just got back from ufc 103 party hosted by lacrosse team member. just saying. maybe u need to brush up on things...and look at ur thread post...u posted a lot of useless threads.

In his defense it's pretty much common sense that if something is rattling when it didn't used to rattle it's most like not a good thing.

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how? becuz i think its dumb if something is moving and rattling and ask if its bad. but anyways ur make a personal attack =)
and i do have lots of friends made over . esp from playing sports. and i just got back from ufc 103 party hosted by lacrosse team member. just saying. maybe u need to brush up on things...and look at ur thread post...u posted a lot of useless threads.
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And you make a lot of useless posts.
You're one of the most **** trolls I've ever seen.
Go crawl back into your hole and stop hi-jacking threads.

ThrashWolf said:
And you make a lot of useless posts.
You're one of the most **** trolls I've ever seen.
Go crawl back into your hole and stop hi-jacking threads.
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actually my most recent post were influence from the "the wrecking crew" the other one are informative or opinion =)
and i only hijacked thread for about 2 or 3 days. 2 days sounds about right.
but okay thk u another personal attack. ur being watched by mods

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ur being watched by mods
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but isn't big brother always watching. because in the end, even he too, loved big brother...

To the OP: You might wanna try wiping your phone and maybe repartitioning your SD, see if any apk's your using have known conflicts with Cyan roms. Can you tell where the rattling is coming from? Also your phone is still under HTC warranty so you might be able to get them to fix it, just gotta pay shipping. Also if your on tmobile they might even do it for you for free.
Ok whatever homos are attacking brian quit your *****in. He has helped A LOT of people out here. Me and the other 2 are the ones who started the hijacking, not him. He is actually such a helpful member that he tried to help me when I was messing with him, he went as far as taking his phone apart to help me. So before you call him a troll or whatever else you should check yourself, the forum won't miss you or your retarded questions. Most of you herbs prolly drool over his girl.
One more person give brian **** and ANY THREAD OR POST you make with a stupid question or comment will get jacked, I will personally make you look like a fool, even if it gets me banned. Go back to howard forums you failures.

I'd risk a ban for that one too, brian is a very helpfull guy are here. All he did was point out something that many of us would have also made fun off. Don't worry bri, we got your back

crpercodani said:
To the OP: You might wanna try wiping your phone and maybe repartitioning your SD, see if any apk's your using have known conflicts with Cyan roms. Can you tell where the rattling is coming from? Also your phone is still under HTC warranty so you might be able to get them to fix it, just gotta pay shipping. Also if your on tmobile they might even do it for you for free.
Ok whatever homos are attacking brian quit your *****in. He has helped A LOT of people out here. Me and the other 2 are the ones who started the hijacking, not him. He is actually such a helpful member that he tried to help me when I was messing with him, he went as far as taking his phone apart to help me. So before you call him a troll or whatever else you should check yourself, the forum won't miss you or your retarded questions. Most of you herbs prolly drool over his girl.
One more person give brian **** and ANY THREAD OR POST you make with a stupid question or comment will get jacked, I will personally make you look like a fool, even if it gets me banned. Go back to howard forums you failures.
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gridlock32404 said:
I'd risk a ban for that one too, brian is a very helpfull guy are here. All he did was point out something that many of us would have also made fun off. Don't worry bri, we got your back
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thx thx =) but! i am good. i just LOVE arguing becuz more than likely i can comeback with a better rebuttal. hell i even argue a lot on youtube. i even argue with customers in the mall at work. lol. its just who i am.

brian_v3ntura said:
what a ridiculous question.
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There Are No Stupid Questions, Only Stupid Answers....and yours is one of those.

Actually no, around here there are plenty of stupid questions.

I know an I agree,but this one wasn´t ridiculous.

dta1974 said:
There Are No Stupid Questions, Only Stupid Answers....and yours is one of those.
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actually like one person said. its common sense to think something is wrong if something didnt rattle before but rattles now. so therefore it was a stupid question.
saying its a ridiculous question implies common sense.
maybe u need to rethink things before u speak since u practically contradicted urself. first saying there are no stupid question, but then agreeing that there are stupid questions here on XDA.

I agree both ways. Yea it is pretty obvious it shouldn't rattle, but you could have said it to him in a more polite manner, but if it was me I would of prolly posted a really degrading image or something.

i, too, love the subtle art of arguing.

always new complaints everyday

everyday there is some sort of new complaint about this phone. my question is, why do you still have it? get rid of the d*mn phone if you cant stand it. nobody is holding a gun to your head to use the phone. im not saying most arent justifiable but at this rate you are better of switching to samsung or motorola. i'm happy with this phone and ive been waiting for a phone like this since the g1 and it was worth the wait.
no phone company will ever make a perfect phone. if the do then what the hell are they supposed to make or add on when they come out with another phone. get rid of the phone or stick with it and stop your b*tching. im sorry people but its getting annoying and over the top.
and for those thinking of buying the phone. use those 14-30 days trial period and try the phone out yourself instead of listening to all this whining about how terrible the phone is. save your d*mn whining for your facebook and twitter friends. lets get serious again with this website.

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everyday there is some sort of new complaint about this phone. my question is, why do you still have it? get rid of the d*mn phone if you cant stand it. nobody is holding a gun to your head to use the phone. im not saying most arent justifiable but at this rate you are better of switching to samsung or motorola. i'm happy with this phone and ive been waiting for a phone like this since the g1 and it was worth the wait.
no phone company will ever make a perfect phone. if the do then what the hell are they supposed to make or add on when they come out with another phone. get rid of the phone or stick with it and stop your b*tching. im sorry people but its getting annoying and over the top.
and for those thinking of buying the phone. use those 14-30 days trial period and try the phone out yourself instead of listening to all this whining about how terrible the phone is. save your d*amn whining for your facebook and twitter friends. lets get serious again with this website.
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But... but... the phone has a root-kit! And an automatic system restore! And.. and the hinge sucks!

They have nothing better to do. I assure you that if these people actually did something during the day, they wouldn't have the time to write up 20 page letters to HTC about the hinge.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App

fixed.....
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...an git outta 'merica if ya 'gunna complain!
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Arcadia310 said:
They have nothing better to do. I assure you that if these people actually did something during the day, they wouldn't have the time to write up 20 page letters to HTC about the hinge.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App
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coolstorybro

krayshunist said:
But... but... the phone has a root-kit! And an automatic system restore! And.. and the hinge sucks!
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lol i can live with that. that hinge problem is really blown over the top. mine has is but it only happens when i mess with it. as annoying as this is, im pretty sure that the android modders dont mind a little challenge considering how easily other android phones have fallen under their rooting hands. only a matter of time

I'm surprised someone hasn't said that there should be a class action suit against T-Mobile for the "delay" of their OTA update.

robothouse said:
fixed.....
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yea idiot im as far from that stereotype as u can get so nice try lol

I called you a waaaahhmbulance, everything is going to be ok...

Foo_Blyat said:
I called you a waaaahhmbulance, everything is going to be ok...
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yo stfu, he actually has a damn good point. i bet ur one of the whiny lil babies. grow the hell up and stop with the middle school comebacks

while i agree with the thread, it didn't need to be started. i would rather not see any stupid posts but since i know that's not gonna happen i will settle for no stupid threads about stupid people making stupid posts. threads like this are the problem, instead of one thread of people *****ing about the phone and pushing important threads to the bottom of the page and onto the next page, now we have a thread with people *****ing about the people *****ing so now two threads are pushing the important stuff down and to the next page

bigstunta101 said:
yo stfu, he actually has a damn good point. i bet ur one of the whiny lil babies. grow the hell up and stop with the middle school comebacks
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Lol @ the pot calling the kettle black

Arcadia310 said:
They have nothing better to do. I assure you that if these people actually did something during the day, they wouldn't have the time to write up 20 page letters to HTC about the hinge.
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Spoken like a true unemployed person. Kudos!

And you complaining about the complainers is no better than the complainers complaining.

Reminds me of the movie PCU. Protesters protesting protesters not to protest. "We're not gonna protest"
I love my G2. If nothing more changed, I would still be a happy man. I guess I am just a simple man with simple needs.
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tubaking182 said:
while i agree with the thread, it didn't need to be started. i would rather not see any stupid posts but since i know that's not gonna happen i will settle for no stupid threads about stupid people making stupid posts. threads like this are the problem, instead of one thread of people *****ing about the phone and pushing important threads to the bottom of the page and onto the next page, now we have a thread with people *****ing about the people *****ing so now two threads are pushing the important stuff down and to the next page
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agreed, this thread should be deleted.

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agreed, this thread should be deleted.
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everyday there is some sort of new complaint about post on this site. my question is, why do you still read post? don't click on the d*mn post if you cant stand it. nobody is holding a gun to your head to read the post. im not saying most arent justifiable but at this rate you are better off switching to droidforums or alldroid. i'm happy with this post and ive been waiting for a post like this sense the OP and it was worth the wait.
no forum will ever make a perfect post. if the do then what the hell are they supposed to post when they come out with another post/ get rid of the post or stick with it and stop your b*tching. im sorry people but this is getting annoying and over the top.
and for those thinking of posting. think about your post for 14-30 days and try to post your self instead of listening to all this whining about how terrible the post is. safe your d*mn whining for your facebook and twitter friends. lets get serious again with this website.

ok, If someone hates the G2 so much, Just send it over to me.
I'll send u a nice new Vibrant in return

I am still amazed that people are *****ing about people *****ing about people *****ing.
Really?
Oh ****, I just *****ed about people *****ing about people *****ing about people *****ing? Or is that the next step?
Oh well.

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everyday there is some sort of new complaint about post on this site. my question is, why do you still read post? don't click on the d*mn post if you cant stand it. nobody is holding a gun to your head to read the post. im not saying most arent justifiable but at this rate you are better off switching to droidforums or alldroid. i'm happy with this post and ive been waiting for a post like this sense the OP and it was worth the wait.
no forum will ever make a perfect post. if the do then what the hell are they supposed to post when they come out with another post/ get rid of the post or stick with it and stop your b*tching. im sorry people but this is getting annoying and over the top.
and for those thinking of posting. think about your post for 14-30 days and try to post your self instead of listening to all this whining about how terrible the post is. safe your d*mn whining for your facebook and twitter friends. lets get serious again with this website.
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you sir, win the internets

Public apology

i apologize to any and everyone whose work i have used without getting your permission first i truely truely am sorry. i will be taking everything down that i have posted on xda that has other's work without them giving me permission to use it. and even once i ask them and they deny permission i will be taking the uploads down after that as well. again i'm sorry
as for everyone's comments about my HUGE MISTAKE I'M SORRY ABOUT....
LiquidSolstice said:
I never gave anyone permission to do this. You didn't ask me, you told me after the fact. I was planning on letting guitardoc take over, but this is just unacceptable.
Please take this down.
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i did post a comment on your thread asking you to pm me but you never did and i got impatient and hyped up about things and i just rushed things and posted finished stable builds of your rom without your permission thinking things would be okay if i emphisized 3x on the thread i didn't do anything but finish your rom all credit goes to you for all other work. but again i went about things the wrong way i wasn't trying to take full credit for your rom i thought i made that clear in the first post but i guess saying it 3x still isn't the right way to go about things, glad to see we're working things out (btw everyone check out the title of his thread now ) for the better now bro! so i'd like to say this publicly, SORRY FOR USING YOUR ROM WITHOUT YOUR PERMISSION LIQUID! (i wanted to say that on the forum so everyone saw lol ) do you accept my appology liquid? (impaler please ____ , you know what we talked about, after liquid post his reply)
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Uh-oh!
Sent from my Pedal to the Metal Hero
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I know i made a big uh oh!
LiquidSolstice said:
Let's get something straight here, because it seems you're all offended right now. You can stop fishing for pity or sympathy, because I have none for you.
"help" would have been PMing me what you tried to do, I could test it, and if it works, the links would get posted on the ORIGINAL thread with full credit to you. Hell, I would have put a goddamn donate button right next to links to you. That's how proper crediting goes. I credit with permission every single person who has tested or fixed something for me with the ROM, and that would not have been any different.
Instead, without telling me, you copied my thread, put up a modified version of my ROM, and told me only AFTER the fact that you did so.
You have some INSANE issues with understanding permission and crediting, and as I understand it, this isn't your first time. It doesn't matter if you put my name in 72 BOLD pt in this thread, you never asked me and you posted a whole damn new thread for it. That's just not ok.
If you really want to be "omg super-hero dev", you need to start earning your fellow dev's respect, and right now, that's not working out for you.
If you're still interested in being credited for this, PM me with the download links, I'll check them out, and if they are ok, I'll put it in my original 2.1.1 thread with full credit to you. That's how it works.
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i really want to earn my fellow dev's respect but i keep screwing up i'm sorry again bro. and i'm reading the forum rules about crediting as we speak right now.
laie1472 said:
LMAO I gotta post on this. Sup kifno man?? How can you post take down jasonmaloney and i's rom??? When in the op man you don't give him credit for anything. You state you have finished up ls's rom not jasonmaloney and you. And come on kifno you didn't even ask the man could you work on his rom??? Wow impressive.
Yea its me Again With the
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no i asked to take down jasonmaloney's build and my build (two seperate things) b/c we both posted our build's on liquid's thread without his permission.....which was a big no no....but i made things worse by making a seperate thread....again sorry liquid. so there was no need to credit jasonmaloney, laie i know i messed up big time smh stupid move on my part
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Not that it matters much, but his ROMs and jasonmaloney's are separate. jasonmaloney just put his in Liquid's original 2.1.1 thread here.
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exactly what i was saying about taking down our build's....
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At least jasonmaloney did not try to make a brand new thread about it. He would have asked me ahead of time, as a proper dev should.
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again i asked ahead of time on the thread but no reply but i did screw things up worse by making this thread again sorry....
il Duce said:
this is EXACTLY what I was talking about in the NFX rom that you put up as your own, you are officially a KANGAHOLIC, and people have been and should be banned for it. Every thread you posts seems to be less about development and more about popularity, you even say **** like "my rom" which you could only REALLY say if you built it from google source, which you obviously can't do. I sincerely hope liquid reported you to the Scotsman, and appropriate action is taken. you = sick. me = sickened.
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i said in my rom's thread that it was based of nfx rom and i gave him credit, i said what i did. i didn't do what i did with liquid's rom, two completely different things... il Duce ik i screwed up with this rom and again i won't be making any mess ups like this again (me = thinking before my actions from now on xda) sorry
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it's not even as though I would have minded him PMing me first or even do what Jasonmaloney did (posting it as a reply in the original thread )
My rom (I say that very loosely) is based on nfx, but only with full permission from nfinite and on popular request. Even further I credited (with permission ) anyone who helped in testing or debugging, and that is the proper thing to do.
I'm just disappointed. that's the worst of it.
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again my apologies are given to you, do you accept? i know i screwed up big time bro....smh big mistake here
33hfl said:
LS should be out of this and not to be so ofended or asking for any recognition about what someone did when he walked away from his own ROM.He sould thank this guy for finish what he started and never finished after a lot of promess and excuses
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no bro i screwed up...i can't even agree to anything you just said b/c all i wanted to do was help
il Duce said:
oh my god you cannot be serious. smh
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read what i said
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go kifno good work
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good work = yes did i mess up? = HELL YEAH!
FdxRider said:
FORUM RULES12. Using the work of others.
If you are developing something that is based on the work of another Member, you MUST first seek their permission, and you must give credit to the member whose work you used. If a dispute occurs about who developed / created a piece of work, first try to settle the matter by private message and NOT in open forum. If this fails then you may contact a moderator with clear evidence that the work was created by you.
Convincing evidence will result in copied work being removed. If there is no clear evidence you created the work then in the spirit of sharing all work will remain posted on the forums.
These rules apply to all software posted on XDA unless that software comes with a license that waives these rules.
Seek permission <---- What part of that do you or kifno not understand?
Doesn't matterr if it's been dormant for long time still LS's work. Follow the forum rules.
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i am reading and MEMORIZING the forum rules as of now
dpeeps74 said:
Oh man, I'm team Jacob!
Wait, wrong drama
~run, run, as fast as you can, can't catch me I'm the gingerbread man~
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lol wow
33hfl said:
I dont know why LS is crying right now when he wallked away from his own ROM after a lot of excuses and promises.he turned his back on his own son.He should thank this man for the woderful job done.Or he forgot his post.Kifno never took credit for what he was doing,he always gave it to LS
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i did give credit to him 3x throughout the post and said all i did was finish it as he planned to but i went about it wrong....
FdxRider said:
LMAO u sew funneeeeee! NOT!
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ik that was funny right?
jasonmaloney said:
Again with the hostility.
Folks, there is a report post button on every single post on this site. You would all do better to use it than to fill up the development forum with unnecessary drama.
Yes, it wasn't very smart to use LiquidSolstice's work without his permission AND to start a new thread for it with a misleadingly similar title. But the bickering and harassment isn't any more accepted by the rules, nor is it productive in any constructive way. It doesn't really matter who was originally right or wrong; this forum is getting flooded with way too much verbal diarrhea. This is not the XDA mantra.
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again i apologize for doing what i did to even create this drama....this wouldn't have happened if i did things the correct way....sorry
someonenewhere said:
What's the big deal?
The man gave LS credit and he said it "I'm just finishing what LS COULDN'T FINISH"
LS, if you don't want people to finish your ROM. Maybe YOU SHOULD TRY FINISHING YOUR ROM..
You left your ROM out there as a bastard child and that bastard child found a father to take care of it.
WHY CRY ABOUT IT?
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no no i went about things wrong i take full responsiblity for my mistake...sorry liquid
LiquidSolstice said:
Excellent contribution. It must be nice, sitting there just using other people's work and never really taking the time to find out how it all comes together. I'm sure you must be spoiled and basically taking all these custom ROMs you get for granted as most people seem to these days. Just a quick look at any tech blog concerning Android, and you'll find comments such as "oh I'm not worried, XDA will figure it out". People freeload off this place so willingly, paying nothing in either donation or even respect/appreciation (which is all most devs are looking for)
In the meantime, we'll just go with this; my rom = my rom. Whether or not I want to finish it, or whether or not I want it to be finished, or in this case, wehther or not I want someone else to do it, that would be my choice. I put in the hours, I put in the time, you did nothing.
I left the ROM because no one seemed to give a damn about it, and I'm finding out increasingly that I was very wrong about that. If you looked at Chef Central on the Main XDA Forum page, you'll find a few threads by me asking for help with the last bit of cooking, which was the kernel. I didn't notice that Kifno figured it out, and only realized what I needed to fo when jasonmaloney PMed me. I said I had every intention of making it stable, and I was indeed working on it.
Which means that it is my task and my right to put up the final update to my own ROM, not have someone else do it without even letting me know beforehand or asking me, and then posting my exact thread over again instead of PMing me the link to add it in the OP, and then telling me after the fact.
Kifno has already got in touch with me and we're working it out, you guys can relax now.
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again we talked things out and i'm sorry bro. and yes i may just be improving others work (the espreeso 2.1 rom i posted) and changing things, i never took full credit actually most of it goes to nfx b/c everyday i wake up he has a pm in my inbox helping me out with the espresso 2.1 rom, it wouldn't be where it is at without his help. only thing i can take full credit for is my build.prop's thats the only thing i actually did from my own work as for the espresso 2.1 rom that was from the help of many other members on this site, i never took full credit for that rom. i use the term my rom, when i refer to the espresso 2.1 rom, b/c i changed it, not b/c i developed it from scratch and did everything to it on my own, i'm not a super-dev yet lol. i'm just improving other's work and learning along the way and giving them credit and asking permission along the way from now on until i know enough to make something of my own again (besides text files lol) that will be of great help to the community....but for now i'm focuses on improving my rom (AGAIN IT ISN'T COMPLETELY MY ROM MANY OTHERS HELPED ME ALONG THE WAY) and helping others with their work for the hero and problems....first person on the list....liquid!!!!!! (we're pming each other now folks working this out for the better so its alright)
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So.....can we use the Rom or No.....Just seems like it was a mistake by the OP to reuse LS's unfinished work without permission, that obviously was a mistake, but if the rom is up and running and "stable" can we just not forgive and forget?
I'm just wondering, not taking a stance/side just a user asking a question.
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we're working on things right now...

You know what man, you're a smark kid, you just take things a bit fast.
You'll grow to understand what it means to command respect here, and I'm sure you'll earn it from everyone. This place is bursting with ideas and creativity, but just PM ROM devs in the future. Every ROM dev needs help, there's no denying that. Sometimes the help you have to offer isn't enough or isn't to their preference, but there's never any harm in PMing to find out.
As far as my ROM goes, with your help, we'll finish this up and finally put an end to all this over exaggerated madness.

E huuuuuuuuug
[dpeeps74]

I think we all learned something here (I sure did), and that's a positive.

Kifno:
I understand you're trying to help, but make it short and sweet. We don't need a full passive - aggressive rundown of events.
I think you would do a great service to yourself (and the people reading your long disjointed posts) if you learned to use some basic English language sentence structure. Your lack of punctuation and your paragraphs of run-on sentences makes you look uneducated and immature.
You're not a bad person, so please take this as constructive criticism.

Kifno,Way to walk this world in man's shoes! I have the most profound respect for you. Make a mistake and own up to it

FdxRider said:
Kifno,Way to walk this world in man's shoes! I have the most profound respect for you. Make a mistake and own up to it
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I AGREE with FDX.... RESPECT MAN!!
KIFNO, Admitted he was Wrong!!
That's Big in itself!! It's seems these days, People find it SO MUCH EASIER to just LIE, or BULL**** their way through MISTAKES and basically LIFE in general!
Kifno DIDN'T DO THAT! Instead he owned up to his MISTAKES....
"LIKE a MAN" Should do!
After the Fact, at the End of the Day, All that's Left to come to some sort RECONCILIATION is a TRUE from the HEART a APOLOGY!!
*Sent On My*
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"Sprint" Hero... Running My, *ExpressoEnergyHero*ROM, KIFNO's Build.Prop.Tweek, & The XDA.BLUE.apk! "Page:10"of My Thread!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957867

Hey kifno
Sent from my HTC Hero CDMA using XDA App

U no tjsy myvrnhlo
Sent from my HTC Hero CDMA using XDA App

Wow man great job kifno. It's tough to own up in the face of so many people watching this, you're really just a good person beyond the scope of these forums. I'm proud to call you a fellow human being. I've been watching this escalate and deescalate and I must say it's been a roller coaster ride. I must say some people have been a bit harsher than they should have, but it's understandable when looked at from a different perspective. Kudos to you again.
I'm excited about how the ROM is moving forward at lightning speed right now. Note, LS, that I'm actually using your ROM right now (2.1 stable) and I llllllllooooove it! keep up the good work, I bet it's time-consuming and frustrating to look through and optimize so much code!
~ Jake

Thanks everyone
And I'm not a grammar freak lol I don't treat my post as essays I just type what comes to mind lol that's why my paragraph structure and grammar look bad on the forums just like this very long run on sentence but really constantly working, and school, and keeping 5 roms (mine and ls 4 builds) and my tweak up to date with fixes and new tweaks and optimizations is very time consuming and hard to fit all in one day lol but I just want to help the community and I plan on doing that the right way, LESSON LEARNED HERE, BTW look out for kifno & ls projects in the future

Don't worry about the Grammar police brother. They're pretty tamed here.
Keep up the excellent work! We grow through our mistakes; damn glad you took the initiative. Stay motivated!!!!

Many thanks!!
In the aftermath of all this stuff, I just want to say that truly I appreciate ALL the hard work that you devs put into keeping our Heroes from becoming paperweights. Just the small amount of work I've put into making my own themes for myself makes me appreciate the scope of talent and sheer blood, sweat, and tears it takes to make this stuff work.
ALL YOU DEVS ROCK!!!

oohaylima said:
Don't worry about the Grammar police brother. They're pretty tamed here.
Keep up the excellent work! We grow through our mistakes; damn glad you took the initiative. Stay motivated!!!!
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You forgot a comma between "police" and "brother". You have been warned. The next offence will result in more badgering.
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Sent from my CDMA Hero. I got some hot Gingerbread-on-Hero action here!

Lol Ya got me cop'er.

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You forgot a comma between "police" and "brother". You have been warned. The next offence will result in more badgering.
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Lol.... Good **** Guys, Gotta Nice Laugh Outta Me!!
*Sent on My*
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"Sprint" Hero.... Running My, *ExpressoEnergyHero* ROM, KIFNO's Build.Prop.Tweek, & The XDA BLUE.apk!! "Page 10" of My Thread!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957867

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You forgot a comma between "police" and "brother". You have been warned. The next offence will result in more badgering.
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Uh oh better watch out for that Guy glad to see everyone getting along and joking with each other

kifno said:
Uh oh better watch out for that Guy glad to see everyone getting along and joking with each other
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Lol, I'm Not Really Sure Why?
But, For Some Reason, It Seems like Some of us Rather Stray Away from the Joking Level, to Instead be Uptight and Insulting!????
Especially when the Majority of us (Members) are Mainly Here to Learn, and Share Knowledge that these ****y Phone Companies Don't want us to Know!!
*Sent on My*
Fast as its Ever Been....
"Sprint" Hero.... Running My, *ExpressoEnergyHero* ROM, KIFNO's Build.Prop.Tweek, & The XDA BLUE.apk!! "Page 10" of My Thread!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957867
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WTMLMK6M
http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=/&gl=US#/profile?user=PMGRANDS

PMGRANDS said:
Lol, I'm Not Really Sure Why?
But, For Some Reason, It Seems like Some of us Rather Stray Away from the Joking Level, to Instead be Uptight and Insulting!????
Especially when the Majority of us (Members) are Mainly Here to Learn, and Share Knowledge that these ****y Phone Companies Don't want us to Know!!
*Sent on My*
Fast as its Ever Been....
"Sprint" Hero.... Running My, *ExpressoEnergyHero* ROM, KIFNO's Build.Prop.Tweek, & The XDA BLUE.apk!! "Page 10" of My Thread!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957867
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WTMLMK6M
http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=/&gl=US#/profile?user=PMGRANDS
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*LIGHTS AND SIRENS*
Sir, I'm here to confiscate your shift key, and for good measure I'll need your caps lock, too. Capital letters are a privilege, not a right. Don't abuse them.
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*LIGHTS AND SIRENS*
Sir, I'm here to confiscate your shift key, and for good measure I'll need your caps lock, too. Capital letters are a privilege, not a right. Don't abuse them.
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lmao! --> extra characters because my message was too short.

yay bootloader good news!

http://briefmobile.com/motorola-atrix-4g-bootloader-bypassed
big news
can't wait for some awesome roms... cm7 please?

Just curious why you would create a new thread linking to some blog about that which is already being discussed here on xda?

Oh no the forum police!
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App

..... Oh no, the anarchists of ignorance!
Seriously... why the hell does everyone get pissy when someone questions the logic of having multiple threads pointing out the same exact thing? You realise that if EVERYONE did that, there would be a post from everybody questioning why the bootloader wasn't unlocked... why HSUPA wasn't working... and so on and so forth.

elementaldragon said:
..... Oh no, the anarchists of ignorance!
Seriously... why the hell does everyone get pissy when someone questions the logic of having multiple threads pointing out the same exact thing? You realise that if EVERYONE did that, there would be a post from everybody questioning why the bootloader wasn't unlocked... why HSUPA wasn't working... and so on and so forth.
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Because they want to feel special. I think we need more then one mod for the atrix section.

Yea... especially when anything newsworthy with the words "boot", "loader", "Gingerbread", or "rom" pop up on the interwebz.

I understand the desire to keep the forums clean. But some people's over enthusiasm can sometimes come of as spiteful or mean. I shouldn't have said what I did, but we're all people here
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True.... but forums aren't a new concept. And it's rare to see a forum that welcomes multiple threads with the same topic with open arms.

I think this thread is a great idea. The other one is full of "this is a Dev thread, don't clutter it up with useless drivel"

actually, this thread is a great idea.
all the "this-is-a-dev-thread-elitist-nazis" can police and berate all the non-dev comments that pop up in the thread located IN THE DEV SECTION.
So what's wrong with having a corresponding thread in the general section that non-dev folks can post in, ask questions, etc without having to take a virtual, condescending ass chewing from the "this-is-a-dev-thread-elitist-nazis"?
*edit* rozzco beat me to the point...

Once again, you all can report and walk away without leaving any comment. It's that simple.

cellzealot just broke my heart and said that it won't work because the radio's won't be restarted under the custom kernel.

Breaking this on a news site was a bad, bad idea...It's completely and utterly premature. There's going to be 5,000 people over the next few days referencing this asking how to accomplish what's mentioned. It'll hit Engadget, and BGR, and then all hell will break loose but nothing will have changed [yet]. Frakking sheeple.

PixoNova said:
cellzealot just broke my heart and said that it won't work because the radio's won't be restarted under the custom kernel.
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He makes a strong case.
Do other phones (sections) get jerked around as bad as the Atrix? We've been told the bootloader was cracked, promised an OC mod, and now this? I sure hope this isn't normal.

rozzco said:
He makes a strong case.
Do other phones (sections) get jerked around as bad as the Atrix? We've been told the bootloader was cracked, promised an OC mod, and now this? I sure hope this isn't normal.
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But what cellzealot said is not fact until it is tested on our phone and viseversa with the "backdoor". We just need to look at the cup as half full and not half empty.