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Is it possible for an Android /MeeGo duel boot on our devices?
This would at least need a modified bootloader for dualboot and porting megoo would BA a major effort since all closed source drivers would have to be ported...
CJHolder said:
Is it possible for an Android /MeeGo duel boot on our devices?
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Everything can be possible
yes its possible here is some alternative
https://code.google.com/p/linux-on-android/wiki/BasicSteps
also check this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9zwd3r6UQQ
Mozilla have launched Firefox OS based on Linux kernel ... Its open source ... I would like any of our good developers to look forward towards developing this OS for our phones
More detail here: http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/b2g/
would be hard if there's no propietary driver kernel source..
It's possible.
Here's manifest: https://github.com/mozilla-b2g/b2g-manifest
I'm too busy to port it for now. Maybe someone else can do that.
i will give it a try to port it
This isn't android based... it's not a ROM it's an other OS... i think if it's possible it will be very hard
i have knowledge of unbranded os types
It's not android. But it is linux and android is also linux, so I think drivers can be ported from android to this, no (though no api stuff and such will be the same)?
I assume it'll be hard, much harder than ics and jelly bean, but still possible.
But I also think that it won't run as good/smooth as ics and in the future jb will run.
So it might run, but if it's useful is another question...
Nevertheless it would be awesome to see it running on the gio.
Also does it need to run on it's own or is it possible to run it on top of the android kernel? If this is the case then it becomes rather easy as we have enough stable android kernels for the gio.
Marcin, is that the purpose of the link you posted?
marcin1147 said:
It's possible.
Here's manifest: https://github.com/mozilla-b2g/b2g-manifest
I'm too busy to port it for now. Maybe someone else can do that.
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I think it's Android based, it uses AOSP repo besided Linaro repo and Mozzila repo!
Code:
<remote name="aosp"
fetch="https://android.googlesource.com/" />
bgm92 said:
I think it's Android based, it uses AOSP repo besided Linaro repo and Mozzila repo!
Code:
<remote name="aosp"
fetch="https://android.googlesource.com/" />
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but i see no apps in the manifest
tioammar said:
but i see no apps in the manifest
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Of course not. It's based on android, so the core shares a lot with the core of android. This doesn't make it android.
The whole os is (except for the core stuff) web based, which probably means all apps need to be written in html 5 or maybe other web standards.
So android apk apps don't work, and so it makes no sence including them.
Stannieman said:
Of course not. It's based on android, so the core shares a lot with the core of android. This doesn't make it android.
The whole os is (except for the core stuff) web based, which probably means all apps need to be written in html 5 or maybe other web standards.
So android apk apps don't work, and so it makes no sence including them.
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simple and great explanation.. thanks
currently trying to port give me some days
warface123 said:
currently trying to port give me some days
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https://github.com/MaclawStudios
Here are sources for android ICS on GIO. Since the manifest uses android 4.0.4 I think you may need to use some things from this (don't forget to mention Maclaw and Marcin if you do).
Soon this will be updated to JB I think, I don't know if FFOS works with JB as well or it specifically needs ICS though.
About firefox OS: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox_OS
So it's not entirely android based. It only uses some parts for some of the hardware.
thanks for the sourches
It's based android. Because s2 users can install it.
its dam hard but i am making progress what do you want guys odin or cwm just wanna now
warface123 said:
its dam hard but i am making progress what do you want guys odin or cwm just wanna now
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odin
alright it will be odin then now i gonna sleep but will continu tommorow
How much android is really in it? Mozilla made it so that it can run on devices that run android. So they probably just mean ARM with a certain ammount of ram etc...
Wikipedia says it's a linux kernel, some components of android for hardware communication, mozilla's own api's for app -> hardware communication such as phone, cam, speakers etc, and last but not least the gecko engine.
So if the kernel used is the same as the one used for android then you could use maclaw (and team)'s ICS kernel + the android stuff needed, merged with the b2g sources.
I'm not really a dev so it's probably a lot harder then what I'm saying here. But I think it's easier then a fully fledged android...
Were you able to boot something already?
Hi all,
Is there any chance to run Sailfish OS on a non-Jolla phone? I would prefer a bigger screen and I'd prefer to not wait for their phone.
Assuming that the drivers from Android are compiled for the same Linux kernel version as I want to run in Sailfish, they should be loadable.
So then it's just a question of whether Sailfish is written to use the same devices (in /dev) in the same ways.
Anybody know?
Cheers.
tabstop said:
Hi all,
Is there any chance to run Sailfish OS on a non-Jolla phone? I would prefer a bigger screen and I'd prefer to not wait for their phone.
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First of all, Sailfish is not yet released to public, and most propably wont be before Jolla phone hits markets. So you can't get it before
tabstop said:
Hi all,
Assuming that the drivers from Android are compiled for the same Linux kernel version as I want to run in Sailfish, they should be loadable.
So then it's just a question of whether Sailfish is written to use the same devices (in /dev) in the same ways.
Anybody know?
Cheers.
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Nobody knows yet, because nobody hasn't been able to have a look at it, since it hasn't been released. But I doubt that the kernel would match, since it doesn't even match on different Android phones. There are always some minor changes.
tabstop said:
Hi all,
Is there any chance to run Sailfish OS on a non-Jolla phone? I would prefer a bigger screen and I'd prefer to not wait for their phone.
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Yes i think it will be possible run Sailfish on non-Jolla phone, anyway you should wait because there is no image for arm cpu in public.
tabstop said:
Assuming that the drivers from Android are compiled for the same Linux kernel version as I want to run in Sailfish, they should be loadable.
So then it's just a question of whether Sailfish is written to use the same devices (in /dev) in the same ways.
Anybody know?
Cheers.
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in android devices in /dev very often is used from binary blobs.
and this blob compiled againts another libc called bionic and it is not compatible with glibc, but Jolla phone will use android drivers via special library.
Sailfish OS for Motorola XT910 ( Droid RAZR )
tabstop said:
Hi all,
Is there any chance to run Sailfish OS on a non-Jolla phone? I would prefer a bigger screen and I'd prefer to not wait for their phone.
Assuming that the drivers from Android are compiled for the same Linux kernel version as I want to run in Sailfish, they should be loadable.
So then it's just a question of whether Sailfish is written to use the same devices (in /dev) in the same ways.
Anybody know?
Cheers.
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Well, the Sailfish OS runs on linux kernel thats for sure and soon it will have the capability to run almost all of the android apks, which means it can not be totally different form android form 'under-the-hood' so there is always some room to try it on your android devices.
I haven't really tried to explore Sailfish OS much, but if u do, plz tell me and I would like to do it on my phone (Moto xt910).
If you come across any guide for installing Sailfish OS on non-jolla phones, plz post the links here.
sidbhatt11 said:
Well, the Sailfish OS runs on linux kernel thats for sure and soon it will have the capability to run almost all of the android apks, which means it can not be totally different form android form 'under-the-hood' so there is always some room to try it on your android devices.
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running apk doesn`t mean anything, i can run apk on my windows 7.
internaly it is GNU Linux, not android.
sidbhatt11 said:
I haven't really tried to explore Sailfish OS much, but if u do, plz tell me and I would like to do it on my phone (Moto xt910).
If you come across any guide for installing Sailfish OS on non-jolla phones, plz post the links here.
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you should understand that nobody care about your motorola or what ever device you own. 3.5 developers that can build nemo mobile image will not do it just because of your request.
If I remember right the first demo shown of it was on a nexus phone. so of course it will run on android phone.
tsaxda said:
If I remember right the first demo shown of it was on a nexus phone. so of course it will run on android phone.
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can you give URL?
EnErGy[CSDX] said:
can you give URL?
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I just remember seeing a video demo of it on youtube and the guy giving the demo said it was running on a galaxy nexus. I don't have the link but you could find it easily on youtube.
It's an open source,isn't it?
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It's an open source,isn't it?
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Silica components and that fancy home screen are not open source
I must admit I really like this OS.. even if it is similar to blackberry 10 for some aspects.. if this os will be avaiable for rooted android phones, i will certainly install it on mine!
I'd install it fast if my phone could get this (LG L5), but I think it's too weak on it. Maybe Sony Ericsson xperia neo would take this.
Sent from my LG-E610 using xda app-developers app
N9 arm port is here who starts porting?
EnErGy[CSDX] said:
Yes i think it will be possible run Sailfish on non-Jolla phone, anyway you should wait because there is no image for arm cpu in public.
in android devices in /dev very often is used from binary blobs.
and this blob compiled againts another libc called bionic and it is not compatible with glibc, but Jolla phone will use android drivers via special library.
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since the N9 port of Sailfish OS is now available:
h**p://jollausers.com/2013/12/the-comprehensive-guide-to-port-sailfish-to-n9/
and the arm chipset in the N9 (OMAP3630) is equal to many Android devices like the Defy+ h**p://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OMAP it would be nice to hear that someone begins with the porting to other Android devices. Hopefully also for my Droid 4 (OMAP4430).
https://github.com/KonstaT/sailfishos_kernel_jolla_msm8930
thx to Konsta @ talk.maemo.org
cvp said:
https://github.com/KonstaT/sailfishos_kernel_jolla_msm8930
thx to Konsta @ talk.maemo.org
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Would be great if it could run on Galaxy note 2 or 3.
Hello OPX community,
I started to work on the port and its progressing nicely, UI is up also Wifi works now, but many things still don't work, so help is defintly appreciated.
Current status: wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris
OLD:
I don't know if some of you know Sailfish OS, but its an OS that is not based on Android with an outstanding UI and UX.
And developers can port it to Android based devices like ours \o/
So I took the hand and compiled Sailfish OS and Android, but unfortunaly I don't really have the time to test since this is my only phone.
So I need someone to either test and report to me or what would be better someone that can develope further on its own after I shared my knowledge with him.
This thread is for talking about everything related to Sailfish OS.
Here are some useful links:
Jolla.com
Sailfish Porting
HADK
+1
This would be my dream coming true...
I might be able to test it, if You can make a flashable zip. Is this build supposed to support android runtime? If I flash it, my recovery and internal SD remains untouched?
osvatha said:
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This would be my dream coming true...
I might be able to test it, if You can make a flashable zip. Is this build supposed to support android runtime? If I flash it, my recovery and internal SD remains untouched?
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Android Support is currently not available for ported devices but there are some devs working on an open source solution.
Your recovery will stay the same.
Internal SD should stay untouched of you don't wipe it but it will probably not visible from sailfish but there was a fix for that, dunno if that is already upstream.
https://twitter.com/taaeem_/status/690475762609168384
UI is booting up on the OnePlus X!!
Still having Jolla with me and running Sailfish OS on OpX hw would make it sweet.
prarun2030 said:
Still having Jolla with me and running Sailfish OS on OpX hw would make it sweet.
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I can say it's really really smooth :victory:
I haven't heard about this OS, is this some custom ROM, CM based? or what? :silly:
FcoEnrique said:
I haven't heard about this OS, is this some custom ROM, CM based? or what? :silly:
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It's a completely different OS, it's based off Mer which is kind of a Linux distribution and on top of that sits sailfish OS. CM is only used on Android via libhybris to get the hardware working. In fact it's completely different from Android and NOT based on it like CM. It's real Linux as a mobile OS.
Wifi up
Bluetooth up
All sensors up
Audio up
\o/
Nice progression, thanks for effort. Had a Jolla-device before and loved it. The HW build quality just wasnt there. Altough, I'd love to get the opensource dalvik-emu to work some day, since I have a bad feeling about future sw development on SailfishOS.
Awesome. Sorry I haven't been able to get back to you on the latest build. I haven't had time lately. Life kinda showed up abf took my time with it. I'll try to observe it later.
taaeem said:
I can say it's really really smooth :victory:
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:good:
taaeem said:
It's a completely different OS, it's based off Mer which is kind of a Linux distribution and on top of that sits sailfish OS. CM is only used on Android via libhybris to get the hardware working. In fact it's completely different from Android and NOT based on it like CM. It's real Linux as a mobile OS.
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Sounds interesting, may have to look more about it.
Waiting for release to test!
Development would be much faster if we multirom for our device
taaeem said:
Development would be much faster if we multirom for our device
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Is there multirom for oneplus X ? ?
sankarshan said:
Is there multirom for oneplus X ? ?
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No sadly not
Sim is now detected and mobile data is working after adding your apn to settings \o/ video and music playback should also work now and RTC alarms are working so you never need to worry if your phone is off you won't miss that alarm
taaeem said:
Sim is now detected and mobile data is working after adding your apn to settings \o/ video and music playback should also work now and RTC alarms are working so you never need to worry if your phone is off you won't miss that alarm
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Lol! And when we will be able to test it?
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Lol! And when we will be able to test it?
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I could post it in a few hours, but than you don't have a camera, no LED and probably no calls (needs to be confirmed)
It would really be only a test build.
If I should do it, write it now
EDIT: Ah also Jolla Store is not working atm needs to be resolved server side. But there is still openrepos.
This poor device has been stuck on touchwiz 4.4.4 for a very long time, it would be great if somebody tried to port a good rom to it.
Please reply with updates, if there's any.
Scupake said:
This poor device has been stuck on touchwiz 4.4.4 for a very long time, it would be great if somebody tried to port a good rom to it.
Please reply with updates, if there's any.
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Sorry, But there not a lot of people workng on the Samsung Galaxy Tab 4 7.0.
DJABHipHop said:
Sorry, But there not a lot of people workng on the Samsung Galaxy Tab 4 7.0.
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This is really sad. :crying:
I would like to bring mine back to new live too.
Please, dear developers, take care of the 7" Tab 4 too. :fingers-crossed:
Best regards
Balze
I'm working on bringing a fairly new version to degas, probably Android 7 or 8.
im getting ready to refresh the kernel for this device and might be able to help with porting android 10
JohnnyStene said:
I'm working on bringing a fairly new version to degas, probably Android 7 or 8.
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beany23 said:
im getting ready to refresh the kernel for this device and might be able to help with porting android 10
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Presently sitting on an old build ROM
Pixelized-OS-v2.9-20180816-SM-T230NU-FIX
That has worked relatively well even on this device with limited storage, processor, and memory. Either way, I'd love to help my unit has been rooted for 3 or so years and please let all of us know if we can help.
Please also note, I use this device only as a backup, so starting over and trying something fresh can happen quickly.
Thanks for the help and support,
Sorli...
bsorli said:
Presently sitting on an old build ROM
Pixelized-OS-v2.9-20180816-SM-T230NU-FIX
That has worked relatively well even on this device with limited storage, processor, and memory. Either way, I'd love to help my unit has been rooted for 3 or so years and please let all of us know if we can help.
Please also note, I use this device only as a backup, so starting over and trying something fresh can happen quickly.
Thanks for the help and support,
Sorli...
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Android 10 should work with some optimization- porting the kernel to a relatively new version would likely be the hardest part.
JohnnyStene said:
Android 10 should work with some optimization- porting the kernel to a relatively new version would likely be the hardest part.
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can only try lol
I just found all device tree specific blobs and all that. Can start from there at least. Then once we get it booted and working then we can go for Android 8-10
beany23 said:
I just found all device tree specific blobs and all that. Can start from there at least. Then once we get it booted and working then we can go for Android 8-10
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How complicated is it to slim down the builds as much as possible?
I don't see needing all the extra TouchWiz crap that this device barely supports and had survived using Link2SD for storage. Something stable supporting at least basic apps is all I need, and most of those (Gmail, Chrome, etc) are now available from play store.
Thanks for trying and let me know if o can help! Sorli...
beany23 said:
im getting ready to refresh the kernel for this device and might be able to help with porting android 10
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Join Telegram there are a lot of Tab 7.0 uses out there and we could use more Developers for the tab 4 7.0
beany23 said:
I just found all device tree specific blobs and all that. Can start from there at least. Then once we get it booted and working then we can go for Android 8-10
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Hi, my advice is starting by taking sources from other variants (you can find them in GitHub S3NEO organization) and editing sources by starting from that base. For the kernel, it shouldn't be difficult to make a defconfig by always looking in matisse and millet ones. I advice you to start from Android 9 (lineage-16.0 branches) since they are the most stable. If you are really interested to work, you can write me in Telegram (same username as xda profile) and I can write you something more about what you should do.
Android 8, 9 or 10 will be nice, but right now I will be happy with Android 5. Are there any ROMs for degas higher than 4.4.4?
Are there any true Android 5 or Android 7 ROMs for this device?
BenGman said:
Android 8, 9 or 10 will be nice, but right now I will be happy with Android 5. Are there any ROMs for degas higher than 4.4.4?
Are there any true Android 5 or Android 7 ROMs for this device?
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For now most of the ROMs out there are based on touchwiz so they are 4.4 with themes. I hope devs can build proper Android 8+ ROM for our good old buddy
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For now most of the ROMs out there are based on touchwiz so they are 4.4 with themes. I hope devs can build proper Android 8+ ROM for our good old buddy
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We can't because degas has different SoC and nobody of the devs have this device. So, we can't do anything.
matteo0026 said:
We can't because degas has different SoC and nobody of the devs have this device. So, we can't do anything.
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Yeah that Marvell CPU and Vivante GPU is a real headache I guess. Why Samsung put them in it lol Maybe one day (when NewPipe stops fully working on my Tab 4) I'll grab a new Tab (probably S series this time).
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I have given up on porting brand new Android versions (for now) and right now I have Android 5 running. Quite unstable at the moment.
gediao15693xda said:
I ask developers to make Android 5 + ROM on Degas, because there are many apps in China that can't run on Android 4.4. Sorry, my English
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That problem is not only for China dude. That's why most of the people (incl. me) want newer Android to our loved Degas
Because Android development for this tablet seem to be DEAD I started to wonder if I could install Windows 10? I bumped to this thing claiming it can install WIndows to any android tablet but I'm yet to try it out...
https://www.changemysoftwares.com/