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Hey Guys at first sorry for my english i'm not good in it. And I'm a Android newbie I just gained a bit exerience with my Touch Diamond but it's broken now..okay but that's not the probleme....
If got a question:
After about 2 days of searching for an android 2.0 or 2.1 ROM I was a little bit confused of the diffrent news everybody was talking about. I'm root on my Hero. That was the first an last thing I made with my device.
1. Everybody is gonna talk about MoDaCo 3.0 but when I was trying to download his ROM my browser never got a request. Is the site down, where that ROM is hosted ?? Could someone give me a working link with this ROM ??
2. Is there a ROM with Android 2.0 or 2.1 outside or even not ??? And if yes are they working well ???
Would be nice if someone can help me =) thanks a lot.
Please answer soon if you know something about that =)
Greetz BassdoxXx
you can get modaco's roms at his website, www.modaco.com.
in the android development section there are some 2.0/1 roms, none of them works flawless, see for yourself if it fits your needs.
Thanks a lot for your fast answer. =)
The problem that i couldn't open the modaco page was my isp -.- i downloaded it at school
BassdoxXx said:
Thanks a lot for your fast answer. =)
The problem that i couldn't open the modaco page was my isp -.- i downloaded it at school
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What? Does ISP's block that site? Lol, would never happened in Norway
there is a few 2.0+ roms out there for the hero.
most seem to be very usable now.
best sense ui would be lox/behnaam community release on 1.6.
http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1448
there are two aosp roms worth looking at.
lox aosp ( im using that on a daily basis)
http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1416
jnwhiteh aosp
http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1528
Hello all,
I am having very specific request when it comes to choosing a proper rom for install on to my hero.
I am blind. Stock roms are only running Android 1.5. More robust accessibility features are available starting with Android 1.6 and improving even more with Android 2.0.
So for sure I am forced to upgrade my hand set.
There are various roms, some of their authors have even disable google specific features so I know I can't install such a rom.
All the accessibility efforts are being lead by the google developers.
Most likely these accessibility tools won't be usefull to most of you but please can anyone recommend me a rom where market is working and where the following applications can be installed and used?
- eyesfree suite of applications,
- talkback - the google screen reader for android,
- tts service.
All possible help is already appreciated.
sorry for the double posting. I've accidentally posted twice and I am unable to remove the post.
Hope anybody can help me please.
pvdeejay said:
Hello all,
I am having very specific request when it comes to choosing a proper rom for install on to my hero.
I am blind. Stock roms are only running Android 1.5. More robust accessibility features are available starting with Android 1.6 and improving even more with Android 2.0.
So for sure I am forced to upgrade my hand set.
There are various roms, some of their authors have even disable google specific features so I know I can't install such a rom.
All the accessibility efforts are being lead by the google developers.
Most likely these accessibility tools won't be usefull to most of you but please can anyone recommend me a rom where market is working and where the following applications can be installed and used?
- eyesfree suite of applications,
- talkback - the google screen reader for android,
- tts service.
All possible help is already appreciated.
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i am on mcr3.0, i looked in the market, i can find 8 apps for eyesfree, tts is one of these. i didn't try to install one of these, but usually it works. the search for talkback returned nothing.
not that i want to be rude, but wouldn't you be better off with another phone if you are blind? i can not imagine a touchscreen only phone would be suitable for someone who is not able to see... especially because there are great devices out there that have a full qwerty keyboard, and come with android 2.0 out of the box... imho this would be a better solution.
again, the last thing i want to be is rude, but maybe this was your mistake: you posted in the htc hero section of this forum, the hero is a touch screen only device, including a virtual keyboard on the screen. it has only six buttons and a trackball, and two rocker buttons for the volume. just to make clear we are talking about the same device
if you are still up for the hero you could try the 2.1 rom from here: http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=30418&posted=1#post30418
best you try for yourself, it has some drawbacks, but maybe in areas you don't need (afaik syncing with exchange does not work for example, which wouldn't be a problem for me...). otherwise it might be worth to wait another week or two, we all are waiting unpatiently for the official eclair release from htc
keep asking if you need to know more, but maybe open a new thread, since your problems are very specific, and might drown between all the newbies question about "how to root my phone".
Hello,
Thanks for your reply and a great attitude.
Yes it may sound strange I have really got HTC Hero here. I know I'll be having problems with virtual keyboard but also I am afraid accessibility features of Android phones are not really such mastered one can use it daily. For example reading emails and content from the web browser is not yet possible. I just want to try how things work and I would also like to touch the virtual keyboard. If I can memorize computer keyboard and use it daily, typewriter keyboard, nokia mobile phone keyboard, then perhaps I might be able to make some use of this too.
I am sory but here are some more questions:
I haven't yet verified with some sighted friends but... is it possible my hero is running even older version of android like Android 1.5? I've based the assumption that it's most likelly running 1.5 because majority of the devices I was reading on the net are running it.
You've been triyng to locate eyes-free applications on the market but you were unable to find talkback. Are you sure you are running newer version of Android than 1.5?
Talkback is supposed to be installed with Android 1.6 andd 2.0 by default and you should be able to find it in the accessibility menu of your phone. I am not sure how well this applies to the custom roms.
Talkback requires google's accessibility api which is reported to be available on Android 1.6 upwards.
To tell you the full story first I've asked on the eyes-free google group whether some accessibility experts from there can help me but no one knowledgeable enough has replied to my query, so I'm trying my luck here then.
Oh I am really excited since I've got really well formed informative reply.
Thanks again
Edit:
Also, I've seen somewhere in the forums here this leaked HTC rom does not support the market. Has this been rectified already? You know if market does not work then most likelly I won't be able to install these applications I am tallking about.
Also you are mentioning possibility to wait a few weeks until HTC guys role out the official update for Hero. Wouldn't that break chances I will be able to root my device later?
Edit2:
Ooops, I should read better next time. Market works on this rom. The problem is paid apps can't be installed which is hopefully not a big issue for me since most of the accessibility enabled applications are free.
Which of the downloads from Hero 21 do I need?
63.18.55.06JU_6.35.09.26) or No Wipe Download. I will need a wipe I am sure but since this link says nowipe I am ehmmm. confused.
pvdeejay,
Unfortunately there is not an 'official' update for Android 1.6, 2.0 or 2.1 as of yet. There are rumours of one coming out soon, but nothing cast-iron yet.
You are correct in that the Hero runs 1.5. It does say it under Settings | About Phone (bottom item on list)| Firmware Version (bottom on list again), although without a working screen reader, there is probably little use in knowing how to find that.
If you did want to upgrade, I'm sure plenty of people could help find a ROM that would suit. The only issue with that is that you would need a rooted phone with a custom recovery image installed. Unfortunately, a lot of the procedures would not be easy for you, as the software that you might need to use to go through the procedure is probably not designed that well for accessibility tools. I don't know what kind of software you are using, but some of the instructions for making goldcards are quite complex, and involve editing some numbers in a 'table' which could be quite difficult for you, I would imagine.
I'm sure a friend would be able to help you out with making a goldcard/rooting if you did want to install a custom ROM (you'll probably be waiting a while otherwise ). They could even root their phone while doing yours (just share the goldcard between the devices).
Nonetheless, there is probably a ROM out there with little removed from it. I'll have a look just now, but you would need to have your phone rooted to do anything just now.
When it comes to rooting and installing custom recovery image. Do you thing the following instructions might work for me?
These instructions don't require a gold card:
- How to Root HTC Hero and Install Amon Ra Recovery Image
- How to install a custom rom on a HTC Hero
Hello,
Here are some numbers I've asked my friend to read from system -> about screen. The phone interface is in czech so I am unable to get some names translated to english, but I believe some of the geeks will understand these identifiers and might be able to help me what is best:
Code:
firmware: 1,5
63.118.55.O6U|6.35.04.25
2.6.27-a5504199
Build number: 1.76.405.6 146733 CL# 47214 release-keys
Software version: 1.0.0.A6288
pvdeejay,
to sum it up:
the hero definitly runs on android 1.5. there are no roms for older android versions, and a few homebrewn for newer versions, as we said already.
i searched for talkbalk on my 1.5 rom, so it is obvious that i couldn't find it...
about rooting of newer roms: it is just a matter of time, sooner or later there will be always methods of rooting a rom. what i meant by waiting is: wait until the official update is out, then wait a few more hours until the first rooted and customized rom is out
@pvdeejay,
I would have to agree with kendong2 that waiting for the official ROM is probably the best idea for you at the moment. There are no guarantees that an unofficial ROM would help, and it would be another user interface to try and learn.
@kendon,
I noticed he has the original, easily rooted version of the hero. IIRC, that is what I had on my G2 (and had the security unlocked bootloader out the box). If that's the case, would pvdeejay be able to 'fastboot boot' a full system img file for the purposes of testing it out to see if it meets the requirements.
The reason I ask is that I've only ever fastbooted my AmonRA recovery (I didn't flash it, because I never felt any need to). I'm guessing you could fastboot a full img, but I'm not sure about the practical issues of where it would be stored in memory...
Sorry guys originally I believed I am slowly getting into the matter and am begining to understand how flashing / rooting / upgrading home brew firmwares works on these phones.
After these 2 posts I feel like a total noob again.
Now again some very concrete questions:
What about these 2 guides I've posted links to?
Can I somehow got [Recovery] [13-Dec-2009] RA-hero-v1.5.2 installed so I will be able to do nandroid backup and then possibly flash some new roms?
Can I really brick my phone by trying to install amon ra?
Originally I thought the process works as follows:
1) get the custom recovery image installed (that's the amon ra in this case),
2) do a nandroid backup which will dump everything usefull on to the memory card,
3) backup and reformat the card,
4) download a rom, rename it to update.zip, put it onto the root folder of the cart, reboot the hero in recovery mode, do the wipe of the data partition, and run update,
5) reboot again and believe it's good.
Also some very significant bit is the thing you are all calling the radio. I am afraid I've not identified this bit thus it's missing in this summary.
Which files will I need to download if I decide to try Android 2.1 community edition 1.8? Are these files I've copied links to a few posts earlier both needed?
Can you please check this list, identify the things I am missing, and make suggestions and corrections why this may not work on my device based off of those number I tried to put down here?
Even if I won't be able to do this right now I'd be happy to get corrections as I can learn something new.
Of course I won't be doing all this on my own. I will ask my bro to read all the stuff to me and we'll do it according to your advices.
To give some bits about me and my computer skills, I believe I am a Windows power user, Basically I do also understand unix, I know what's bash how the files are arranged in a file system, can use command-line tools, telnet, ssh. I am working as a network administrator here so some background is there really.
Hi pvdeejay,
Answers to your questions here.
You can actually use fastboot to 'temporarily' load up the AmonRA recovery image into memory and run it from there. I do that on my phone, for the simple reason that I can't be bothered ) ) to flash the recovery. Once you get AmonRA running, the first thing you should do is make a Nandroid backup. It will be saved to your SD card, so then get the nandroid directory of your card and save it to your PC (just in case!)
So, here's how you'd go about this.
(Make sure you have the android sdk installed, and that adb and fastboot commands are working). USB cable should be plugged in throughout.
Before you begin, put the ROM you want (ie. Android 2.1 community edition 1.8) into the root of the microSD card (a .zip file).
Code:
adb devices
Should list your phone's serial number
Now turn off the phone, and turn it on with the back key held down (the one at the very bottom right of the device).
You should enter fastboot mode. Now type
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fastboot devices
and you should see the serial number again.
Now type
Code:
fastboot boot AmonRA.img
where AmonRA.img is a file in your present working directory that is the filename of the latest custom recovery image. This does NOT flash your phone, it merely runs the image (pretty much as close as you get to risk free, other than sitting there with a tinfoil hat on )
See screenshot of the recovery image here:
http://www.sizzledcore.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/RA-hero-recovery-image-500x375.jpg
Make the Nandroid backup by choosing 'Nandroid Vx.x Backup' and waiting a while.
If your ROM needs a wipe first (most new ones do), select Wipe data/factory reset. You will lose all your user data on the device (but you've got a nandroid backup just in case)
You're now good to go. So choose "Apply sdcard:choose zip"
Now select the custom ROM zip file you downloaded. It doesn't even need to be called update.zip! Choose it from the list and push trackball.
Wait for the update.zip to go in. Do NOT turn off the device or pull the battery. First boot can take a very long time (upto 30 minutes). Just keep it plugged in via USB and wait...
As for radios, see http://android.modaco.com/content/h...-24-11-hero-roms-radios-in-update-zip-format/ and look at the section titled radios. The latest one is in bold. It is a .zip file as well, that you use these exact same instructions for to install (don't do the wipe or anything like that. Just install the .zip file)
anon2122 said:
@kendon,
I noticed he has the original, easily rooted version of the hero. IIRC, that is what I had on my G2 (and had the security unlocked bootloader out the box). If that's the case, would pvdeejay be able to 'fastboot boot' a full system img file for the purposes of testing it out to see if it meets the requirements.
The reason I ask is that I've only ever fastbooted my AmonRA recovery (I didn't flash it, because I never felt any need to). I'm guessing you could fastboot a full img, but I'm not sure about the practical issues of where it would be stored in memory...
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this is correct so far, i did the same, except i installed the recovery. i play a lot with my phone, the installed recovery image with the nandroid backup is the best i have ever seen for a phone...
@pvdeejay
you always write so much...
i try to answer everything:
the two guides you posted are good for your situation. i never tried flashrec, but from what i read it is safe to use. i installed my recovery image through fastboot, the guide is here: http://android.modaco.com/content/h...ng-the-patched-recovery-image-on-your-device/
i have no idea how this works out for you, but my honest suggestion would be that you have someone seeing assisting you, you CAN brick your phone, though it is not likely if you follow the instructions precisely. the process is not very time consuming at all, so you don't need to bother anyone for days of their time.
edit: and now i read your post to the end and saw that your brother will be helping you, so you are on the right track
once you have the recovery installed you can make nandroid backups, and i would suggest that you do this first thing after installing the recovery, better make a backup too much than one too less...
the 5 steps you described are correct, except there is no need to rename the zipfile anymore, you can select any .zip from your sdcard.
the radio part is the number that begins with 63.18.55.06, then comes two letters and then more numbers. as by now the version can be identified by the letters, with JU being the up-to-date one. in general you can say the newer the better, but you have to try for yourself. start with the newest one, if you have problems go back.
thanks this seems to be pretty doable plus I will easily be able to restore the current data backed using nandroid backup.
Which android SDK do I need the latest one?
The commands I need to type are supposed to be typed on the PC or on the phone? I assume on the PC but I just would like to ensure.
Hero21 1.8 community edition has a recommended radio listed in the first post. Is it necessary to install that one as well? What should I install first the actual rom or the radio? Do I need installing radio at all? Should i do the same with radio i.e. renaming it to update.zip and using amonra to install it?
Also will I be able to use this method even if I install another rom (running amonra without actually flashing it)?
Edit:
sorry guys did not realize renaming to update.zip is no longer needed.
Edit2:
is there an easy way on how to access sd card from windows? I can't just remove the card from phone and insert it into my laptop because I don't have the proper adapter. Previously my boss was using the hero and perhaps it would be nice to backup the sd card first.
Edit3:
uhmmm, installing android sdk is perhaps not as simple as it sounds.
I have just seen this article.
I am on a limited gprs internet connection, can you please suggest sdk features I won't need to save some download bandwith?
- you need only the adb binary (thats adb.exe for windows) from the sdk, the rest is not needed for this.
- install the radio from the 2.1community-rom-thread, it is the newest. install the radio first. DO NOT PULL THE BATTERY until the phone has rebooted completely. if you pull the battery during radio upgrade your phone will be dead. it takes a few minutes, do not panic!
- you can copy the contents of the sdcard via the usb-cable, plug it into your pc and pull down the notification bar...
Do I need to run SDK Setup.exe when I have downloaded android sdk for windows?
Or can I simply run that binary from the command-line without the installation?
Do I need any USB drivers so my phone can be recognized?
Hey guys,
First and foremost, I would like to say I have no idea about anything, and everything on this website is in a foreign language to me (can't understand anything), so please bear with me. I set up a new thread because after reading everything, I still don't get anything (being a noob).
I just signed up with vodaphone in australia to get a HTC Legend (my first android and smart phone after using n73 for the last 3years). Everything is going fine until I wanted to get apps from the android market. I didnt have a gmail account, so I signed up for one through my computer. However, when i tried signing in through the phone google account set-up wizard, after waiting 5mins for the phone to communicate with google servers, it fails and the phone would not let me, citing that it cant establish a reliable data connection to the server, being a temporary problem (Tried it with both 3G and wi-fi, also with 2 other friend's log-in). Any help on this would be good. Also, with HTC sync 3.0, I was unable to sync and backup all my sms for a factory reset. Is there any other ways to do this without the apps? Additionally, I cannot update my software to Froyo (Firmware 2.2) FOTA or finding a download for it onto my comp as the phone says my software is up-to-date (But HTC Australia shows that there is an update for Software 2.2 FOTA).
Alright, I know what goes through your mind, get the apps to do that, but without the sign-up for gmail settings, I cant access Market, cant download apps, basically cant do anything (and mind you, I dont know about programming or xda or anything of that sort to check the shell script or whatever that goes on in the forum).
I've went around looking for answers but never really got a definition, mostly about how-to's which I am not interested as I have no idea what they are.
What is flashing?
What is rooting?
What is un-branded or Vodaphone branded (in my case, if it makes sense)?
What is a goldcard and what's it for?
Is RUU or custom rom or rom the same thing? does that have to do with my firmware? and what is it?
What's with downgrading and upgrading for other stuff (to versions 1.1/1.3)?
What is Clockwork and Fastmode and all those other stuff?
What's the latest firmware/software for Legend (2.2 or 3.0) as I have read threads with firmware 1.3 or 3.3 (or something of that sort)?
I know I AM the biggest noob you guys will ever find. Seriously, no websites actually explain all these stuff, and I'm getting paranoid over using an android phone. I know you guys might just tell me to get a simpler phone, but I upgraded to an android to know more about it.
Thanks in advance guys, if any help can be provided. I have a cool phone, but I wanna use it fully.
Regards,
William
Firmware version
2.1-update1
Baseband version
47.39.35.09U_7.08.35.21
Kernel version
2.6.29-8d705e0d
[email protected] #1
Build number
2.10.178.1 CL211993 release key
Software number
2.10.178.1
Browser version
Webkit 3.1
http://lifehacker.com/5717356/set-u...tm_campaign=Feed:+lifehacker/full+(Lifehacker)
^ To know more about your Android.
Try various Wi-fi settings till you get proper Wi-Fi signal.
http://zubu.ca/legend/fota_check.php shows that there is no update available for your build, I suggest you debrand.
I just helped about with the basics, the more experienced people will be able to answer you better. Did you get a black Legend?
hey man, thanks for that. mightily helpful.
however, wat do u mean by various settings for wifi? there arent much to set.
also, what do u mean by debranding as well? like not go vodaphone or smtg like dat?
btw, i have a silver Legend i think? the metallic case.
marder101 said:
Hey guys,
First and foremost, I would like to say I have no idea about anything, and everything on this website is in a foreign language to me (can't understand anything), so please bear with me. I set up a new thread because after reading everything, I still don't get anything (being a noob).
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Be prepared to learn, and to become less of a noob
marder101 said:
I just signed up with vodaphone in australia to get a HTC Legend (my first android and smart phone after using n73 for the last 3years). Everything is going fine until I wanted to get apps from the android market. I didnt have a gmail account, so I signed up for one through my computer. However, when i tried signing in through the phone google account set-up wizard, after waiting 5mins for the phone to communicate with google servers, it fails and the phone would not let me, citing that it cant establish a reliable data connection to the server, being a temporary problem (Tried it with both 3G and wi-fi, also with 2 other friend's log-in). Any help on this would be good.
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Hmm, I got that once before. If there's a different wifi network that you can get access to, try that.
marder101 said:
Also, with HTC sync 3.0, I was unable to sync and backup all my sms for a factory reset. Is there any other ways to do this without the apps?
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There are apps on the market, if you can sort the issue above then check those out.
marder101 said:
Additionally, I cannot update my software to Froyo (Firmware 2.2) FOTA or finding a download for it onto my comp as the phone says my software is up-to-date (But HTC Australia shows that there is an update for Software 2.2 FOTA).
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Yes, some users still haven't received the update. A debrand will help
marder101 said:
Alright, I know what goes through your mind, get the apps to do that, but without the sign-up for gmail settings, I cant access Market, cant download apps, basically cant do anything (and mind you, I dont know about programming or xda or anything of that sort to check the shell script or whatever that goes on in the forum).
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You are correct, I have said about apps. If you temproot using visionary you can install Titanium backup which can backup everything. Both of these are available for "sideloading". Without a file manager on your phone I can't think of an easy way to install them. What I'd do is go to the settings, make sure USB debuging is on (Settings --> applications --> development) and then use adb to install it:
Code:
adb devices
adb install Visionary.apk
adb install Titanium-Backup.apk
This is assuming that you rename the files to Visionary and Titanium-Backup, and have them in the same directory as ADB. For an easy installation of ADB do this:
Download this file and unzip it to C:\Android\ADB\
Open cmd (start orb/button, type "cmd" and hit enter)
In cmd do this:
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cd C:\Android\ADB
Now you can use the adb command listed above. If you have the apk files in the same folder you can pretty much copy-paste those commands
marder101 said:
I've went around looking for answers but never really got a definition, mostly about how-to's which I am not interested as I have no idea what they are.
What is flashing?
What is rooting?
What is un-branded or Vodaphone branded (in my case, if it makes sense)?
What is a goldcard and what's it for?
Is RUU or custom rom or rom the same thing? does that have to do with my firmware? and what is it?
What's with downgrading and upgrading for other stuff (to versions 1.1/1.3)?
What is Clockwork and Fastmode and all those other stuff?
What's the latest firmware/software for Legend (2.2 or 3.0) as I have read threads with firmware 1.3 or 3.3 (or something of that sort)?
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Flashing is the process of writing a new operating system to NAND (internal) memory, otherwise known as flash memory
Rooting is like gaining administrator rights on a Windows PC. On Unix-like systems (Android, Linux, OSX) this is known as the root account, hence "rooting"
Vodafone branded means that Vodafone has it's logos and apps on there. Think of the ROM on your phone as a custom ROM, made by Vodafone. You need to wait for Vodafone to update it. Un-branded simply mean that all of that is gone, it's like having the ROM that HTC meant for it. So we only need to wait for HTC to update it
A goldcard is an SD card that has been specially prepared for making the phone think it's CID is different. I don't fully understand how it works, all we need to know is that it does, and that we need one for rooting
ROM and firmware are the same thing RUU is "ROM Upgrade Utility". It's a method made by HTC for upgrading the phones firmware. A custom ROM is simply a ROM that's been customised. It may be based on the official ROM from HTC, or the open source version of Android
ClockworkMOD is an open source recovery image. It allows us to do full backups of the NAND memory (nandroid backup), as well as easily installing new ROMs/updates. These come in zip files Fastboot is a way to test stuff quickly. It allows you to flash certain parts of a ROM without the need to flash the whole thing, as well as boot from a kernel that isn't flahed to the device. It's a dev thing
The latest version of Android for the Legend (officially) is 2.2. HTC firmwares follow a different numbering scheme. HTC ROMs v. 1.x and 2.x are based on Android 2.1, and v. 3.x is based on 2.2
marder101 said:
I know I AM the biggest noob you guys will ever find. Seriously, no websites actually explain all these stuff, and I'm getting paranoid over using an android phone. I know you guys might just tell me to get a simpler phone, but I upgraded to an android to know more about it.
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Get learnin'
I hope this helps
@GrammarFreak:
Thanks for your post! Even though I thought I kinda understood most things, this cleared a lot up for me!
RMWessels
No worries
ishan_rulz said:
http://lifehacker.com/5717356/set-u...tm_campaign=Feed:+lifehacker/full+(Lifehacker)
^ To know more about your Android.
Try various Wi-fi settings till you get proper Wi-Fi signal.
http://zubu.ca/legend/fota_check.php shows that there is no update available for your build, I suggest you debrand.
I just helped about with the basics, the more experienced people will be able to answer you better. Did you get a black Legend?
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Hello her last day i got a new legend and it was black and it looks like my old htc hero
Hello every one of us
After test more roms of WP7, i have all days same problem
One time the SDCARDS runs and others not
So, i think the problem provides from MAGLDR to make the first initialisation and detection of sdcards
I view the new CLK for Android, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1114053
My problem i'm not programmer and don't can create a EXE to run CLK with a WP7 rom.
Can any of you view that?
Thanks for all cooker's rom
And excuse me my english language
dAV84 said:
Hello every one of us
After test more roms of WP7, i have all days same problem
One time the SDCARDS runs and others not
So, i think the problem provides from MAGLDR to make the first initialisation and detection of sdcards
I view the new CLK for Android, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1114053
My problem i'm not programmer and don't can create a EXE to run CLK with a WP7 rom.
Can any of you view that?
Thanks for all cooker's rom
And excuse me my english language
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sorry, do you mean that you think its MAGLDR that stops WP installing on some SD cards?
Yes, sometimes the MAGDLR detects the SD card or not, this may be why the Rom's do not have WP7 use
If someone is interested in writing a new/modified bootloader for WP7 one should do it in such a way that Zune believes the HD2 is actually truly a HD7. This would make it a lot easier for everyone to install updates like Mango and NoDo.
Perhaps more importantly, it also allows one to backup the phone's content with the updatewp.exe trick (making zune "install" an update to the phone so it makes a backup before that and killing the update process before it starts updating).
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If someone is interested in writing a new/modified bootloader for WP7 one should do it in such a way that Zune believes the HD2 is actually truly a HD7. This would make it a lot easier for everyone to install updates like Mango and NoDo.
Perhaps more importantly, it also allows one to backup the phone's content with the updatewp.exe trick (making zune "install" an update to the phone so it makes a backup before that and killing the update process before it starts updating).
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bad idea that,
if you make the HD2 look like an HD7 to allow updates you run the very real risk of MS updating a driver or two that may screw your device, the HD2 and 7 are very similar but they do contain hardware differences and thats why we have several issues. I dont think its anything to do with magldr, the random restarts and wifi issues are a symptom of SD card issues WITHIN windows,
EvilWhiteDragon said:
If someone is interested in writing a new/modified bootloader for WP7 one should do it in such a way that Zune believes the HD2 is actually truly a HD7. This would make it a lot easier for everyone to install updates like Mango and NoDo.
Perhaps more importantly, it also allows one to backup the phone's content with the updatewp.exe trick (making zune "install" an update to the phone so it makes a backup before that and killing the update process before it starts updating).
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Ok so this magic bootloader with turn all your hardware into HD7 hardware and magically wave a super duper wand and allow you to use M$ update to install software/drivers for the HD7 on your HD2?
Are you on LSD?
How do you expect to be to install official updates meant for the HD7 if your hardware is a HD2?
Custom roms are CHANGED so they work on your hardware, DFT didnt just bung the official HD7 rom on the phone say a magic word and have WP7 running on the HD2
Please go back to sleep.
PS. Oh btw, last time I checked Zune DOES see the HD2 as the HD7, aslong as you install the reg tweak or use a rom that has it already in.
i never say i want a super HD2 with WP7 uncid or MS fake super mango and free apss for always.
Simple a other bootloader with can use when a sdcard fait with magldr
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i never say i want a super HD2 with WP7 uncid or MS fake super mango and free apss for always.
Simple a other bootloader with can use when a sdcard fait with magldr
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i get what you mean but i have several SD cards that are not compatible with WP7 and they all work with magldr, perhaps im wrong but i just dont think that is the issue, magldr IS a big problem with battery charging and it messes up the date and time too but i dont think ive seen anything that says the SD issues are to do with MAGLDR, there is an alternative bootloader addon for android, but WP isnt supported, it does however fix the battery charging though
dAV84 I think you just have a non-compatible sd card. I had a lot of issues with my 2GB SanDisk in WP7. It was running, but it was rebooting sometimes and wp7 didn't see sd card then.
Changing sd card helped.
Behind open this topic, i read all topic about SDCARDS problems with WP7.
The problem with bandwitch and type of class
So, i tested differents version of W7 Rom's.
With 5 differents SDCARDS
And change with magldr 1.12 and 1.13,
i have 3 card no visible in magldr one time and after it's run, but's bloqued in wp7
TO 2x2GB no name class 2, 8gb kistong class 6, scandisk, 16G class 4
SO,for 1 of no name, and kistong, not view in magldr (can't change partition in service mode) but's when i insert in a WP6.5 i have view
I use the SDFormater, and the easeus to change partition to FAT.
I'm understand the problem, perhaps provides from WP7, but's not total sure for me.
People say that the most common sd card's classes that work with wp7 are 2 and 4.
I don't know what class are mine cards, both are 2GB though. SanDisk was quite a lot faster (changing apps, settings, using ui in general), but wasn't fully compatible (reboots etc) and Kingston is working fine, but slower.
I used SDFormatter as well. You don't have to change anything with Easeus unless you aim at dual-boot with SD Android. Just use SDFormatter and go on with WP7 setup.
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Ok so this magic bootloader with turn all your hardware into HD7 hardware and magically wave a super duper wand and allow you to use M$ update to install software/drivers for the HD7 on your HD2?
Are you on LSD?
How do you expect to be to install official updates meant for the HD7 if your hardware is a HD2?
Custom roms are CHANGED so they work on your hardware, DFT didnt just bung the official HD7 rom on the phone say a magic word and have WP7 running on the HD2
Please go back to sleep.
PS. Oh btw, last time I checked Zune DOES see the HD2 as the HD7, aslong as you install the reg tweak or use a rom that has it already in.
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I know they're changed in order to work, but afaik MSonly updates the new bits don't they? Because if they are it would work with things like the cert updates from april/early may.
Ofcourse if with an update the entire device is reflashed this wouldn't work. However it would still be likely that the zune backup system could work, which would help when trying new roms.
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it wouldnt matter what kind of update MS did, if you were able to update via zune and device drivers changed it would screw the device.
who knows what might get changed, radio, SPL, drivers anything could, any one of those could mess things up, that could just mean a simple reflash but if the Radio/SPL was messed with then its possible it could give you a really bad day
That's why I go with reverse engineering the Zune. Its a thread that is started by me yet no one has yet to comment on. It would be nice if we can takeover something like it and make it exclusive to HD2 updating! If there was a way we can extract M$ updates and take a look what is in it and take out stuff that is not necessary, take out stuff that can be dangerous to our phone, put in updates that is for HD2, and then repackage it to Zune (Hacked or Spoofed) for end user updating. It will be effortless for end users but I bet it will be a challenge to the coders.
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That's why I go with reverse engineering the Zune. Its a thread that is started by me yet no one has yet to comment on. It would be nice if we can takeover something like it and make it exclusive to HD2 updating! If there was a way we can extract M$ updates and take a look what is in it and take out stuff that is not necessary, take out stuff that can be dangerous to our phone, put in updates that is for HD2, and then repackage it to Zune (Hacked or Spoofed) for end user updating. It will be effortless for end users but I bet it will be a challenge to the coders.
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Im not a software engineer but im guessing saying, let go with reverse engineering zune, is kinda like saying, yeah course, we'll just fly to Mars
Cyanogen has released the 7.2 version OS for HTC Hero GSM. I've seen a lot of people talk over the CDMA version, but none on the GSM one. Has anyone tried it out? I wanna hear the bad and good remarks that you have to say about it , by "you" I mean those who have tried it.
To be sure, this is the tipe of HTC Hero I'm referring to: spinei.hotnews.ro/wp-uploads/2009/10/htc_hero.jpg
I runned it for a week or two. As for stability it's the same as CM7, CM7.2 just has some ICS backports, nothing bad
What do you mean by ruining it?
People who own the CDMA version claim that on their phone it's a performance improvement from 7.0 to 7.2.
I have 2.1 official version on it. It's stable and somewhat ok in terms of flow in the menus. Will 7.2 be an improvement over the the official 2.1 version on my phone?
P.S. I didn't test any other version of Android, it never used anything except the stock version.
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What do you mean by ruining it?
People who own the CDMA version claim that on their phone it's a performance improvement from 7.0 to 7.2.
I have 2.1 official version on it. It's stable and somewhat ok in terms of flow in the menus. Will 7.2 be an improvement over the the official 2.1 version on my phone?
P.S. I didn't test any other version of Android, it never used anything except the stock version.
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It;'s not ruined, I had it on my device for a week or two. I thing it will beat your 2.1 official. It will not have HTC Sense. You get 2.3 version of android some ICS goodies. I didnt run official 2.1 on hero so i dont know how it is
What does HTC Sense has and cyanogen 7.2 doesn't have as equivallent?
From what I saw in youtube videos, cyanogen pretty much has something almost equal to HTC Sense as GUI. Are you referring to the HTC specific apps and widgets?
P.S. I misread "runned" for "ruined" )
Yup that fancy weather widget and all that stuff, but you wont miss it trust me, that raw android look is way better
One more question.
How functional are these:
- WIFI
- Bluetooth
- Camera
- basic phone functions(calling, messages)
- sound
? Did you have any problems with these in terms of errors or functionality(loss or low of signal, automuted, etc.)? And did you had any random restarts issues?
Nope they all work awsome, it's a stable release, those releases dont have problems with that. And you shouldnt be too scared to flash your device. So far I had 4-5 android devices that are rooted and flashed a million times without any losses, you may encounter a soft brick sometimes but you can fix that easily. You cant know how good is a ROM until you test it. So stop being a girl and flash it . No offence If you dont like it, there is a lot more ROM's on this forum, you dont have to choose CM7.2....
First time to install Cyanogenmod was not entirely easy
Hey all,
I just created an account to be able to post my experience with CGM 7.2 on the HTC Hero GSM. Everything I checked so far works fine, however there's a slight jaggedness in scrolling.
For me as a complete newbie it took about 6 hours to get it to run, mainly because I had to get straight what I actually have to do. There is no paucity of TO-DOs, just no individual one worked for me - I got it sorted out only by combining all kinds of posts from everywhere. That's why I want to share my viewpoint on this - without all kinds of different people airing their piece of the puzzle I would surely have given up!
The specs were as follows; starting with the "fastboot-info":
HERO CVT SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-1.76.0007 (HERO10000)
MICROP-010f
TOUCH PANEL-SYN0104
RADIO-6.35.15.11
Aug 4 2009,19:43:30
And software-information:
Firmware-Version 2.1-update1
Baseband-Version 63.18.55.06PU_6.35.15.11
Kernel-Version 2.6.29-7527f009 [email protected] #1
Build-Nummer 3.36.405.1 CL199109 release-keys
Software-Nummer 3.36.405.1
Browser-Version WebKit 3.1
So here's what I did:
0) I wrongly assumed that I need to unlock my bootloader directly, i.e. using the software from HTCDev. As I am using Ubuntu Linux, this meant quite a hassle in itself, and I did not manage it after all. The reason was due to an error when trying to get the Identifier Token needed by HTC to send you some clearance-file to unlock the bootloader:
Code:
fastboot oem get_identifier_token
...
(bootloader) [ERR] Command error !!!
OKAY [ 0.007s]
finished. total time: 0.007s
I found no solution to this problem, but tried to up- or downgrade my HBOOT-version. Luckily that wasn't necessary after all. A side-effect of it was that I installed adb and fastboot, which I happened to use later on (but are not necessary either).
Let me assure you: Unlocking the bootloader directly (in the HTC-way) is NOT necessary!
1) Getting root access:
I used UniversalAndroot-1.6.2-beta5.apk to do that, and conveniently installed it using
Code:
adb push, adb install
though if you don't want to install this nice utility, you can just install a File Browser and then install the package.
Now here's a quirk that cost me about an hour: Using the default settings, UniversalAndroot only claimed to successfully get root-access, but left everything unchanged! Only after finding a comment on some website did I try to check both check-boxes (log and temporary install) - this time it worked (it installs yet another app called SuperUser)! (I then ran it again without the temporary setting enabled, which at least did not revoke the SuperUser-Account). Anyways, adb is handy in this case again because you can just log in with
Code:
adb shell
and check if
Code:
su
gives you root access or says "Permission denied".
2) Deleting /system/etc/install-recovery.sh I got that idea from androidforums.com, and will probably never know whether it was really necessary. That just shows how desperate I became after 3 hours of poking around in the dark.
3) Installing ROM Manager from Google Market There's probably a quicker way to install recovery images, which does not involve a damn Google account! Or maybe it is not even neccesary.
4) Downloading and installing ClockWorkMod Recovery I did this using the ROM Manager. Again, there might be a more direct way. In any case, I was paranoid enough to install it twice, as it was recommended that way somewhere.
5) Downloading cm-7.2.0-hero.zip and putting it on /sdcard/ Again, I just used
Code:
adb push cm-7.2.0-hero.zip /sdcard/
to accomplish this, but my guess is you can just as well do it via USB.
6) Format cache, /data/factory, /boot and /system By that, I mean do this in ClockWorkMod (you get there by booting up with HOME+POWER). The last two locations to reformat are "hidden" in the menu partitions. This step is very important because without it, Cyanogenmod did only loop infinitely (for more than 10min) in its loading screen! I got this idea from the more detailed description at droidforums.
7) Install Cyanogenmod using ClockWorkMod That's straight forward; just select the image from sdcard and you're done!
Hope I didn't forget a vital step, and maybe it is helpful to somebody; at the very least my future ME will maybe find it useful again .
Hello all. I am very sorry to bother you all but I have been trying to upgrade my phone for the last 4 months and have almost given up. I saw the film about noods and really left it to the last resort! have an OMNIA 7 on:
7.10.7740.16 trying to go to 8107 for now but would like to go to windows 7.8 if possible
Fimware: 2424.11.112
Boot loader 6.4.09
I tired Zune: got error 80180008
Asked Microsoft: no help
Read forums and tried cab sender to send 8107 (+ languages) by Heathcliff: got same error but now know a bit more helphowto.cab.pkr ERROR CODE: 0x80180008 invalid signature ) (. (thanks Heathcliff!)
Tried sending firmaware: worked!
Tried sending just language packs (got 6 on my phone) only partial loaded to 7.10.8099
I Read more on forum: tried sending certificates to phone by e-mail. Tried installing various certificates on computer. Tried sending a previous help how to cab (from previous O.S. cab via e-mail to phone (thought it might be missing). Tried partial unlock but, as expected, did nothing.
After reading more on this site, I have seen that the certificates have expired on the CAB files (downloaded from "force ugrade") and so guess it has nothing to do with phone or windows (tried windows xp, vista and 7 ultimate). Asking for a new cert. seems like playing tomb raider to me.
.details about error:
ERROR: 0x80180008 : Updatevalidator in ULDR reported this error. Update cannot continue.
ERROR: E_INVALID_SIGNATURE: Signature validation failed for following Delete Package.
Package: \OSRoot\Application Data\Microsoft\DeviceUpdate\Packages\FB6757FA-7853-4C50-9239-A2C975F81FC4.1.pks\helphowto.cab.pkr FROM Version: 0.0.0.0 TO Version: 0.0.0.0 GUID = {6A540B21-B5C0-4D24-8903-B5B5EB97DF58}
1980-03-21T19:45:43Z:: VerifySignatures failed for graph with base name of HelpHowTo. Trying to find another path.
1980-03-21T19:45:43Z:: BuildReturnValues: Returning HRESULT 0x80180008
=====================================================================
1980-03-21T19:45:43Z:: GOOD PACKAGES AND BAD PACKAGES LIST
=====================================================================
1980-03-21T19:45:43Z:: BAD PACKAGE 1
1980-03-21T19:45:43Z:: : helphowto.cab.pkr ERROR CODE: 0x80180008
1980-03-21T19:45:43Z:: Total number of Bad Packages: 1
1980-03-21T19:45:43Z:: Process Failed with code 0x80180008
Phone works OK except for key board drop so it is not the end of the world I guess. As a last chance I would be to try seven eighter. I have seen that some people even stuck on 7720 have been able to upgrade. However, In one thread you said we can’t roll back. Another one you said it SHOULD be possible to burn a back up back to the phone.
I have seen other questions on ths and other forums about error 8018008 but I have not found an answer that helps.
I Know it is my problem but if someone could find the time to help to answer these questions:
1. to burn a back up back to the phone, will cab sender work ? I have read that zune does not.is there another tool? The tool heathcliff mentioned, does not work with the latest version zune.
2. I have seen other people on 7720 been able to go to 7.8 with seven eighter but I have seen they have had someproblems (I think mainly due to wrong language pack selection issues)-. Do you think it would work for me even if I get this error? If there was not a problem of rolling back I wold gve it a go.
3. Is there something else I can do (except buy a new phone)
Thanks and sorry if this is in the wrong place or I have broken any rules un- intentionally !
Martinxp
Hi,
If you want 7.8, switch to custom rom => look at my signature.
hBk0dY said:
Hi,
If you want 7.8, switch to custom rom => look at my signature.
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Thanks I will read carefully and let you know. However, If I understand correctly though, the Magldr software unlocks my phone so I can load the immage ROM?
The only other doubt I have is about the memory on my phone. the Samsung site says nothing but an test report I found in WINDOSTECA says it should have 576mb RAM and 512MB ROM. Any one know if it is valid and if it is enough?......also where is the thanks button?
thanks again Misterxp
Yes Magldr unlocks your phone. Samsung omnia 7 as 512Mo of RAM and 8Go of memory, that's enough to install a custom rom.
512MB ROM is the size of the Rom (thus the system). This size can vary depending on the rom.
Thanks Button => http://i70.servimg.com/u/f70/17/66/30/68/captur14.png
problem solved
yippeeeeee
I solved the problem!
I decided that if flashing a custom ROM would solve it then so would flashing the official ROM. Hence I read all I could about official Samsung ROMS, chose the one which was not so old "I8700XXKC1_Many_PROVIDERS_NODO (7.10.7390), Chose the CSC for Italy because I live in Italy and then woke up one morning and went for it.
I followed all the instructions to the letter but had read them 100 times before! I formated the phone holding the Power + Volume DOWN + Camera buttons, followed the instructions in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=973420 by Heathcliff and then, after all was done (went very smoothly, I connected to Zune and went all the way to 7.8. I had to cancel the update a couple of times because zune blocked but all went well in the end.
In between updates, I changed the names of the back up folder, so that zune created another in case I had to go back. I made this a habit in the past and meant I was sure I Always had a back up. (sometimes zune will cancel a backup if the process does not go correctly and, if you don't save back ups you end up with no back up!). When I finally got to 7.8 I used CAB SENDER to send an old CAB which I knew could not be installed and in that way I got a back up of my final version with all my apps installed. I did this because, once there are no more updates, zune does not install anything and so does not make a back up either. It is the easest way I have found but there may be another, I tried the various back up programmes but could never get them to work. I don't think my way does any harm to the phone but some one else more expert than me might know. The main thing I learnt is how important it is to have a back up and save the back up. It saved me a few times. Once, when trying other ways to fix the phone, I tried to restore with zune, but it kept giving an error. However, I managed with CAB SENDER. Once, another time, I got as far as 18% and even Cab sender kept giving an error. I took out the battery and waited a few minutes (before shooting my self!) and it worked! Anyway, thanks to you all at Xda and I will send a donation as soon as I get the chance to load Paypal. bye from Mister Xp