It is getting harder to work out if something will work due to not knowing what country it is for. I have wasted a lot of time trying to get something to work that won't and I can only guess it is not for my country.
It is also getting harder to find the real helpful information in topics with all of the "i love this build so much even though I have not downloaded it yet" carp.
It is a shame because there is so much great work gone into this but it is hard to find updates or which kernel to use etc.
As far as I know, the only country specific builds are US ones (T-MOBILE) ... all the other are worldwide
I haven't been able to figure out the differences or benefits of going from US to WW ROM. I am interested since the Primordail 3.1 released a patch and I have no idea why this is a good thing.
Also, from past experiences, does WW unlock more apps in the market or something? Is there a way to do this? I am unable to find some apps in the market and remember a mod that showed everything on my Galaxy Tab awhile back.
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I haven't been able to figure out the differences or benefits of going from US to WW ROM. I am interested since the Primordail 3.1 released a patch and I have no idea why this is a good thing.
Also, from past experiences, does WW unlock more apps in the market or something? Is there a way to do this? I am unable to find some apps in the market and remember a mod that showed everything on my Galaxy Tab awhile back.
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According to Roach - there's no functional difference at all. My understanding is that he released it for those UK users who jumped the gun to the US-based Primordial release - and wanted to get on the "proper" WW release.
This is just a guess - but there are probably some region coding meta tags somewhere that may affect Android market.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14445397&postcount=270
Awesome, thanks. I will keep looking around for the market tags because I feel like I have different app results on my DroidX vs my TF
I keep seeing info about people receiving incremental updates from 4.010.0x - yy and I'm trying to understand why one user would get an update versus another.
I have an unrooted Iconia that was running 3.0.1 GEN1, when the 4.010.07 update came through it was then listed as a GEN2. Not sure if this is relevant or not, but I figured I would at least ask.
I'm not sure if the updates are anything to worry about, but I wanted to get more of an idea as to what would make my device different than others so as to not receive updates, even the smaller incremental ones.
When you figured it out... let me know !
Personally... I am a little pi$$ed at how a major company like Acer is handling this particular area.... no relevant whatsoever of why there are so many different versions of build numbers and updates... and who get what or when....etc
and when we are faced with so many variables mentioned above.... take all that to a conversation with tech support is just going create more confusions.... better get some aspirin before sitting down for a session with their tech support !
**EDIT** This thread is about the Chinese SM-N9006 ONLY.
I just picked up this phone last weekend, (imgur.com/Js8e4FI or see "deviceinfo.png" below), which seems to be similar to all the other Chinese N9006s out there, but after further examination, I'm not so sure.
I rooted it with Framaroot and checked it with a new version of Antutu, (I think I had one of the adjusted versions before), and CPU Identifier, and it showed a very different processor than the others I've seen online. (imgur.com/caapx2o or see "cpu identifier.png" below)
Evidently, the Quad-core 1.2Ghz MTK6589 is actually a dual-core MT6572 which I'm not sure even uses both cores.
I'm not that surprised about that, but I am surprised that the RAM seems to actually be close to 3GB! When I check the running apps tab it shows almost 3GB total RAM, (imgur.com/7B4jFRx or see "running apps.png" below), which is backed up by both Antutu, (imgur.com/0OMilGl or see "antutu.png" below), and CPU Identifier.
So, have they made a new N9006? One with a crappier processor but more RAM? It only got an Antutu score of 8115, but it seems to run relatively quickly. The main reason I'm curious is that I want to be able to try out other roms, but I'm not sure I can trust anything from this phone to figure out which roms are safe for it. I'm not sure that it's even correctly reporting the rom info you can see in the device info picture.
In case you can't see the device info, this phone seems to have: (This is all the info I've been able to scrounge up from this phone)
Star Note3 n9006
Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 Cortex-ARM7
Adreno 330 GPU
MT6572 x2 1.3GHZ
Model Number: SM-N9006
Android Version: 4.3
Baseband Version: N9006ZCUBMI3
Kernal version: 3.4.0-1590669 [email protected]#1 Thu Nov 7 10:38:17 CST 2013
Build Number: JSS15J.N9006ZCUBMI5
Custom build version: i7208.pip.02.02.a.a-v0.0.9b1107
Supposedly, I can be sure of the rom info from booting into factory mode, (power + vol. down), but I'm getting the same menu in Chinese that others have gotten.
Factory Mode menu (sorry about the quality): (imgur.com/ivDFE4s or see "screencrap.png" below)
Does anyone know what the options are in that menu, or how to change the menu to English, OR another way to get the rom info from the bootup screens? Thanks!
MediaTek Cpu ?? impossible i guess you got a Chinese knock off
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MediaTek Cpu ?? impossible i guess you got a Chinese knock off
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Yup, I know it's a knockoff, I identify it as a Chinese model in my first sentence. That's why I'm not surprised that the specs are faked. Even after rooting it, deleting the un-upgradeable version of Antutu they had locked on it (I'd heard about the "adjusted" versions), and installing a new version of Antutu, it is still faking the processor.
I'm not sure any info can be trusted from the current rom on this phone, which is one reason why I want to figure out which roms are safe for it.
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Yup, I know it's a knockoff, I identify it as a Chinese model in my first sentence. That's why I'm not surprised that the specs are faked. Even after rooting it, deleting the un-upgradeable version of Antutu they had locked on it (I'd heard about the "adjusted" versions), and installing a new version of Antutu, it is still faking the processor.
I'm not sure any info can be trusted from the current rom on this phone, which is one reason why I want to figure out which roms are safe for it.
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There are not ANY ROMs other than the one it shipped with which are safe for it. If you tried to flash a real stock or custom Note 3 ROM onto it, it probably wouldn't flash at all, and if it did, it would brick the device.
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I just picked up this phone last weekend, (imgur.com/Js8e4FI or see "deviceinfo.png" below), which seems to be similar to all the other Chinese N9006s out there, but after further examination, I'm not so sure.
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So, have they made a new N9006? One with a crappier processor but more RAM?
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First of all - in the world there ARE true Samsung N9006 Note 3 phones - which are completely different devices! So your phone is NOT a Samsung N9006, so it can't be referred to as a "new N9006". At most you can say it is a new fake N9006.
And regarding the RAM - the problem is that even on real N9005 you don't have close to 3GB RAM reported, you only get listed about 2499 MB or so, the rest is mapped to video/3D and similar stuff and does not get listed. The fact that 3000 MB are listed seems to suggest that in the kernel there is another hack so it reports much more than reality.
Also the screen captures suggest that the real screen is nowhere near 1920x1080 so that info also seems to be faked
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First of all - in the world there ARE true Samsung N9006 Note 3 phones - which are completely different devices! So your phone is NOT a Samsung N9006, so it can't be referred to as a "new N9006". At most you can say it is a new fake N9006.
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Sorry for the confusion, the only discussions I've seen on xda which refer to the N9006 are in reference to the Chinese version. I've changed the title accordingly.
I agree with you that the resolution is definitely faked, as well as the RAM. Are there any apps that can accurately judge the true amount of RAM? Antutu gives a RAM Operation score of 435, and a speed score of 712, but I'm not sure how that corresponds into real world amounts.
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There are not ANY ROMs other than the one it shipped with which are safe for it. If you tried to flash a real stock or custom Note 3 ROM onto it, it probably wouldn't flash at all, and if it did, it would brick the device.
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If there is success with any of the attempts being made, I want to know if my phone is the same as theirs. There are threads which reference another Chinese version where attempts are being made. (I'm not allowed to link URLs yet but you can cut and paste: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2460126 forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2495375)
With the increasing interest in the Chinese versions, even if there isn't one now, I'm sure there'll be one eventually. That's why I'm interested in finding out how to gain info about the rom I'm using. Even if I don't change roms, it would be nice to see the real specs of the phone, and be able to use some things like Xposed.
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Sorry for the confusion, the only discussions I've seen on xda which refer to the N9006 are in reference to the Chinese version. I've changed the title accordingly.
I agree with you that the resolution is definitely faked, as well as the RAM. Are there any apps that can accurately judge the true amount of RAM? Antutu gives a RAM Operation score of 435, and a speed score of 712, but I'm not sure how that corresponds into real world amounts.
If there is success with any of the attempts being made, I want to know if my phone is the same as theirs. There are threads which reference another Chinese version where attempts are being made. (I'm not allowed to link URLs yet but you can cut and paste: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2460126 forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2495375)
With the increasing interest in the Chinese versions, even if there isn't one now, I'm sure there'll be one eventually. That's why I'm interested in finding out how to gain info about the rom I'm using. Even if I don't change roms, it would be nice to see the real specs of the phone, and be able to use some things like Xposed.
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The point is that real Samsung firmware won't work on a clone. The real Samsung devices don't use the same chipset as the clones do.
You're phone is not a Chinese Version, the chinese versions are made by Samsung.
your phone is a copy product.
There is a real chinese note 3 SM-9006 made by Samsung...what you have is just a crapy copy made in some backyard factory. STOP thinking you have anything else. Just be happy that it can even make a phone call.
Teleported from my SM-N9005 from the Enterprise
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**EDIT** This thread is about the Chinese SM-N9006 ONLY.
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A number of people including myself already told you - this is NOT a SM-N9006!
Searching for the CPU and resolution will get you to one of the appropriate threads (or you can start yourself one BUT NOT IN ANY NOTE 3 FORUM)
Here is for instance one about the fakes with MTK6589 and I believe 1280x720:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2460620
This one seems closer to what you have:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2549036
Search around http://forum.xda-developers.com/android there might be other!
Your screenshot clearly show it is fake, the color, everything is wrong.
This is NOT a real SM-N9006 but FAKE.
You should change your title.
Not a Note 3.. doesn't belong here... Thread closed
A quick question, DOES the build number of each rom released (of the same android version) really matter?
over the years from trying out different versions etc I have not really seen any difference apart from battery (however this might have just been myself or the way I updated/ either fresh or dirty).
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A quick question, DOES the build number of each rom released (of the same android version) really matter?
over the years from trying out different versions etc I have not really seen any difference apart from battery (however this might have just been myself or the way I updated/ either fresh or dirty).
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There are some little changes in the system. And Samsung is fixing problems in it.