The Captivates Screen is Much brighter and Vibrant, than our Vibrants...WTH and they have voodoo color and everything we have...
So why is their screens brighter?
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I just checked against my neighbor's couldn't see any difference. If you use the codes you can look at the highest brightness setting for the display maybe yours set below 100%
I'm actually using a captivate and I have my vibrant beside me. Both are stock 2.2 and actually, my vibrant is brighter. The captivate looks yesllowish while the vibrant is white and has a more crisp and clear look, especially the 4 touch buttons on bottom.
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Is the captivate you're comparing your vibrant to newer?
Captivates capacitive lights (from the 3 my friends have) are MUCH dimmer than vibrants
Super Amoled, and all Amoled screen for that matter are not as consistent as LCD screen. For example, some screens display a blue tint, other brown, others red when at low brightness. Yes, it is partly due to color balance issues with the software, but amoled screens are organic particles which will inevitably vary.
The backlights suk on the cappy, i have one that i dont use but its on stock 2.1 and the screen is just brighter on it like?...and my friends cappy with voodop color is brighter with our brightnesses set to the max...i was like wtf?!?!
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Quality control...
Would anyone like to participate in a discussion on what capabilities sAMOLED+ affords this tablet? I noticed from my other thread that several photographers use this a view finder for their HDRi cameras--which fascinates me. Here's what BLOWS MY MIND about this deisplay: contrast ratio and color gamut.
I want to explore the notion of reproducing colors available to vision, but not to painting or print. Basically this thing can emulate light, color and shadow like NOTHING else in the world...(aside from other devices sporting AMOLED and OLED displays.) And, unlike its smaller bretheren, is large enough to be hung on a wall, and almost as expensive as a archival canvas/paints/solvents/brushes/finished product painting...
Has anyone taken a jeweler's magnifying glass to this display yet???
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Coming from a Galaxy Nexus, my main concern is - How are the black levels gonna be? I absolutely LOVE SuperAMOLED - Mainly, the blacks - I LOVE THEM and I'm sure many other users do. I don't know if the LG's black levels are gonna be as good or better? Does anything know that?
I have a choice to jump from the Gnex to the Nex4 but if the screen's black levels aren't as good - I probably won't.
What's your opinion about the screen?
Go look at a One X, it'll be similar to that (which is SO much better than the GNex screen - IPS ftw!!)
Yeah but the black levels
It definitely won't be as good. The question is, will it be good enough.
The apparent high end screen on my laptop has a rubbish black level. So I'm also hoping the Nexus 10 has good blacks, so I can use that for media instead.
But did you look at the Htc One X screen, or atleast youtube it?
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Yeah I've used the One X a lot of times and I'm not impressed at all. The color reproduction is good but the black levels don't amaze me, at all. I feel that my nexus' screen is much better than the OneX (Just my opinion, don't pounce on me)
With AMOLED, the blacks are black because the led's are switched off, it doesn't try make the colour "Black".
LCD screens do not do this. So blacks will be grey, but colours and viewing angles WILL be better. Another thing, AMOLED is a battery drain with anything other than the colour black.
OLED screens will always have darker blacks than LCDs. That's just due to the nature of how each type of screen technology works.
I very much know how AMOLED works. Guess the blacks won't be that good on the Nex4. :| Hard decision to make now :\
arzbhatia said:
I very much know how AMOLED works. Guess the blacks won't be that good on the Nex4. :| Hard decision to make now :\
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But your question meant that you don't. If you know this, then you should know about LCD too...
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I very much know how AMOLED works. Guess the blacks won't be that good on the Nex4. :| Hard decision to make now :\
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They will probably be as good as any IPS LCD on the market. LG makes very good smartphone displays, including iPhone 4/4S/5 displays.
Just look at the present ips screen on the LG top model phones, i'm sure the nexus 4 will be similar.
The blacks will not be the same as others mentioned but it's a tradeoff. Super amoleds have good contrast and blacks but the ips lcd's I've seen had better color accuracy and sharper images. I like amoleds but the whites and other colors aren't that good and the brightness isn't high enough for my taste. I look forward to seeing the n4 up close
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I have mixed feelings as well regarding the screen of the new Nexus 4. I also own a Galaxy Nexus, and aside from the black levels, there is another area where the AMOLED screens shine: motion handling. LCDs tend to blur images in fast motion, motion resolution isn't usually very good. This is very noticeable when watching action films or sports, for example.
However, AMOLED screens are very fast thus their motion handling is on par (or even better than) with plasmas, which gives you crisp and clear images even when moving (blur ocurring depending on the shooting conditions but that's a whole different story).
So, to summarize the differences between the screens:
- The screen of the Nexus 4 will be slightly clearer, the pentile matrix used in the AMOLED screen makes it slightly more "blurry", although due to its high pixel density that's usually hard to see.
- The screen of the Galaxy Nexus has perfect blacks, the screen of the Nexus 4 doesn't. The point is, will its blacks be "black enough" even for multimedia? "Black enough" is very subjective...
- The screen of the Nexus 4 will probably handle motion worse than the Galaxy Nexus one. The point again will be if it handles motion well enough.
It seems that the screen of the Nexus 4 is slightly better for reading and web browsing but slightly worse for multimedia. I only have a Galaxy Nexus (no access to HTC One X, etc) so anyway I can't really compare.
Well it all depend on taste. I think the IPS screen for me will be better for contents consumption. Text clarity is a very important factor for phones and RGB array IPS excel here. Better color accuracy is the most important factor for me, without the banding, retention and dark spots that I deal with on AMOLED. I only fear of the chance of backlight leakage that can happen with regular LCD.
I know the response time of the OLED screen have very fast, but I don't do heavy gaming on small mobile devices. It also have ultra wide angle view and wider color gamut (poorly tuned however). I also like its performance outdoor and contrast. But it can be s battery eater.
Also I missed the curved glass of the AMOLED screen, before anyone say the Nexus 4 screen is curved, by what I see from the verge video it isn't, only the external glass seems to be and just a little by the edge, not the same effect.
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eksasol said:
Well it all depend on taste. I think the IPS screen for me will be better for contents consumption. Text clarity is a very important factor for phones and RGB array IPS excel here. Better color accuracy is the most important factor for me, without the banding, retention and dark spots that I deal with on AMOLED. I only fear of the chance of backlight leakage that can happen with regular LCD.
I know the response time of the OLED screen have very fast, but I don't do heavy gaming on small mobile devices. It also have ultra wide angle view and wider color gamut (poorly tuned however). I also like its performance outdoor and contrast. But it can be s battery eater.
Also I missed the curved glass of the AMOLED screen, before anyone say the Nexus 4 screen is curved, by what I see from the verge video it isn't, only the external glass seems to be and just a little by the edge, not the same effect.
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The Nexus 4 will have better viewing angles than the AMOLED.
Sunlight will probably be better too. Colours will be more realistic, and battery life will be lower apart from on a black screen.
I don't like the oversaturated colors of amoled screens, and true colors are important in my work, so I much prefer a good IPS screen. Too bad about the blacks though.
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I hope the Nexus 4 display will be better. On my Gnex whenever I watch videos with dark scenes or blackground, I get this noise/artifact thing in the background. Do you guys get that? Also, black is technically not completely black on the Gnex because the pixels do light up a little for faster switching. There are a few threads in the Gnex forum that talk about that. It is only noticeable when there is very little or no ambient light. You can test it by going to a dark room and open an image that is completely black. You will see some dim light coming out from the AMOLED.
I would have to say my biggest concern is how the screen will perform in the direct sunlight. Of the phones I've had the gnex does best in direct sunlight. Very easily readable and use able in direct sunlight. All my other phones have been washed out in the sun. They where some form of lcd's, but not any of the newer generation super performing lcd's that are out now. The HTC Rezound I had was the best LCD screen I've owned. Amazing picture but suffered in the sun.
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I hope the Nexus 4 display will be better. On my Gnex whenever I watch videos with dark scenes or blackground, I get this noise/artifact thing in the background. Do you guys get that? Also, black is technically not completely black on the Gnex because the pixels do light up a little for faster switching. There are a few threads in the Gnex forum that talk about that. It is only noticeable when there is very little or no ambient light. You can test it by going to a dark room and open an image that is completely black. You will see some dim light coming out from the AMOLED.
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I think that's either black crush like the original note had or the black spots which nearly all amoled screens get because of the way they are produced.
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So I just got one and I'm somewhat surprised with the viewing angles of the display. Brightness and/or color shifts with just a few degree angle move. Is it normal? I don't really care about the fact that the screen looks good at 180 angle, but color differences with slight move do annoy me (it makes left and right eye see different image)
I tried to catch the brightness/color difference in photos (see attachments)
You are serious?
It is just the type of display it is.. Have never noticed this and think viewing angles are very good for a tablet like this. I mean it is a 7 inch tablet.. I think most hold it in front.
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So I was in currys today comparing my black 16 gb samsung note with there white version, I put both on the same screen mode and full brightness, and put both on the same settings page, there white one had much better whites and a but nicer and mine looked more yellowish and not so white, considering trading it for a white one, but is mine faulty or could it be the black bezel and agains the whites on the screen makes it look warmer, any ideas??
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Sounds like a coincidence concerning normal LCD screen variance that you're attributing to what you can see without that knowledge. The truth is that the only difference is the plastic color. The components are identical, though through the manufacturing process LCD screens are more sensitive to variation than other things. I've had several iPads of the same color and generation side by side and the screens all vary in terms of yellowing, light bleed, dead pixels, et cetera.
My Note 10.1 has more yellowing on one side than the other, and when the screen is black I can see light bleeding along the edges. On my iPad Air I have the same exact yellowing problem. Hell, on my iMac I can see it on a pure white screen.
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Sounds like a coincidence concerning normal LCD screen variance that you're attributing to what you can see without that knowledge. The truth is that the only difference is the plastic color. The components are identical, though through the manufacturing process LCD screens are more sensitive to variation than other things. I've had several iPads of the same color and generation side by side and the screens all vary in terms of yellowing, light bleed, dead pixels, et cetera.
My Note 10.1 has more yellowing on one side than the other, and when the screen is black I can see light bleeding along the edges. On my iPad Air I have the same exact yellowing problem. Hell, on my iMac I can see it on a pure white screen.
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Agreed. Screens are produced at one plant, probably multiples, and shipped to wherever final assembly is. The different color devices are all made on the same assembly lines with the only difference between them being the small subset of colored components. Now if someone said certain batches of either color had screens that were "off" that would make sense because if a screen manufacturing plant put out a bad run an entire sequence of devices would be affected. Hitting production tolerances on a 10" 299 PPI display is dramatically harder than the old 147 PPI display. I'd bet yields are probably in the 90% range with the balance ending up in the garbage.
There has been known for over yellow screen, I haven't noticed mine being yellower on one side though, I do have light bleed, but I don't mind that as much, just I like good whites for reading etc
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Or, the ambient contrast of the white bezel gave the impression.
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Or, the ambient contrast of the white bezel gave the impression.
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That's was my point when I said about the lighter and darker bezels
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