Will the Cloud replace SD Cards? - Galaxy Tab 10.1 General

I have the 16 gb model and with all the talk about these new Cloud services and tablets coming without SD card slots, is that the future?
I am currently using dropbox, sugarsync and Box.net, to a limited degree and using these services like splashtop, playon, and both music cloud services-google and amazon. 95% of my music is on google music beta.
Can one really use the Cloud for everything only with a wifi model tablet
Or would you rather stay in the plug and play world of card storage?
Any insight from both sides anyone?

Doubt it. SD cards and storage are meant for you to be able to move data quickly and "the cloud" is very restrictive. Ever try listening to a song from 'the cloud' on an airplane or in a building with no reception? 'The cloud' is more of a compliment to real memory and it will never change, unless the whole world is covered in free high speed internet, so never. I believe 'the cloud' is another gimmick like 3d TVs or hybrid cars. Once the cool factor is gone, they fade away into nothing more than a memory.

I would NEVER upload my data on the Internet !
Better stick to this:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref...01&h=cefd5e766e61ad5429757eb1db99c245d074da15
Just plug it into your router and your set.
In the Android market you have the LinkStation Player to access this buffalo thing but there are more and better apps for that.
Those with the WIFI only Version: Use your smartphone as a hotspot
There are also routers with built in NAS support. In Germany we have the pretty popular "Fritzbox" which is some kind of multifuncial router (wifi router, cable internet, phone plugs, usb slots etc.). It can do that NAS streaming too and much more.

I totally agree with you the cloud cannot replace SD card due to speed problems

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Slightly OT: External HD for Universal

I'm after (read-only) 40+gb of storage for the universal, mainly as a WMA/MP3 player in the car and at work. How about this:
Cheap pentium-class laptop from ebay, wifi access point and Personal Web Server or IIS? Would the streaming audio application just work with files hosted (ie put in shared directories) on the laptop or would I need something a little more clever?
Any thoughts on the matter?
WL-HDD
A MUCH cheaper option is a WL-HDD with an external PSP battery (or a car adaptor for in-car storage). Files are accessable with resco file explorer easily or from windows file explorer with a little more difficulty. There is also a huge WL-HDD community with rom updates and so forth. Using it myself with great results, battery life is good for 4 hours streaming, but a bigger 5v 1Amp+ battery could be purchased. The battery I recommend is good as it comes with the USB-Barrel connector you need to power the drive.
WL-HDD:
http://www.microanvika.com/product.asp?TXT=INFO&PNO=ASU54305A
(or ebay it but less reliable)
Battery I use, others could work.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/External-batt...QQihZ005QQcategoryZ127742QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Interesting... Wireless Snap server...
Not too expensive either!!!!
Nice piece of kit. The only thing, though, how will this cope with streaming? I mean, won't this just present files to download completely before playing? And I guess I wouldn't be able to use playlists or a next track/next album type function in media player
Or is there any way to mount the partition as a drive (like a storage card) on the Universal?
Just to add, one of the MP3 files I have is 10gb (don't ask) so it really would need to be streamed.
xiasma said:
I'm after (read-only) 40+gb of storage for the universal, mainly as a WMA/MP3 player in the car and at work. How about this:
Cheap pentium-class laptop from ebay, wifi access point and Personal Web Server or IIS? Would the streaming audio application just work with files hosted (ie put in shared directories) on the laptop or would I need something a little more clever?
Any thoughts on the matter?
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i did exactly this at home with my first iPAQ so i could lie down and listen to any music i had on my network at home. back then 64mb flash card didn't store much music. early versions of WM needed network playlists to get the files, i haven't tried it on later version as local storage of 4gB is enough... finally.
If 4gb was enough I'd be happy, but another 200 CDs arrived yesterday and I won't get many of those on a single SD card
I just found this item which looks interesting, especially as it appears to be able to utilise 2.5" notebook HDD and USB Pen Drives!
http://www.qtds.com/products.asp?recnumber=855
Not a bad proce either, although you would obviously need to add in the cost of the HDD or Flash Drive.
Regards,
Colin.
The WL-HDD allows direct streaming, can act as a Wireless Access Point, and has a usb port so you can plug in USB storage and either make it network accessable or automatically copy the contents to the internal drive (which can be up to 100gb, IIRC). You can even plug in a webcam and set to take a photo when motion is detected, or at an interval. It can even email the photo to you!
Honestly, it is the best bit of kit I have, but you will need another power source or extended battery for the exec to handle the constant streaming for any length of time. I get about 4 hours out of it, same life as the WL-HDD .
techtalkonline said:
I just found this item which looks interesting, especially as it appears to be able to utilise 2.5" notebook HDD and USB Pen Drives!
http://www.qtds.com/products.asp?recnumber=855
Not a bad proce either, although you would obviously need to add in the cost of the HDD or Flash Drive.
Regards,
Colin.
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This seems very similar to the WL-HDD, but the power consumption is 3A. This would be a challenge to run by battery. It also has no homebrew software/bios.
xiasma said:
Nice piece of kit. The only thing, though, how will this cope with streaming? I mean, won't this just present files to download completely before playing? And I guess I wouldn't be able to use playlists or a next track/next album type function in media player
Or is there any way to mount the partition as a drive (like a storage card) on the Universal?
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As I said earlier in this post, it automatically streams files unless you choose to copy them.Through Resco, the drive is mounted just like the storage card, under the "Network" heading. To access it you simply have to log onto the drive using Wi-fi, and map the network drive by tap-holding and choosing the option "map network drive" over the network icon in resco. I use Wisbar advanced desktop (which I also recommend) so I have an icon on my desktop that goes straight there. Listening to music off it is just like from a storage card.
Pyrojester,
That sounds perfect, many many thanks.
No problem, anyone feel free to PM me or post about it, I feel like sharing the love. It works perfectly, I couldn't beleive it.
This is interesting.
My point is, my daughter fried my ipod but i am thinking of using my "spare" M5000 as an alternative, i currently have a 1gig sdd in it but was thinking of using its wifi technology to aceess my music from the pc, is this possible with this wireless drive or is there a drive that the M5000 can hook up to and access my library.
One point i would like to mention though, my ipod was hooked up to my hifi unit via its dock (which basically is the headphone socket) when i use the same lead coming out of the headphone socket of the M5000 and into the aux port of the hifi the i have to crank the volume right up to hear anything. Is there something i am doing wrong hear, just thought it would be same output as the ipod??
Pyrojester said:
The WL-HDD allows direct streaming, can act as a Wireless Access Point, and has a usb port so you can plug in USB storage and either make it network accessable or automatically copy the contents to the internal drive (which can be up to 100gb, IIRC). You can even plug in a webcam and set to take a photo when motion is detected, or at an interval. It can even email the photo to you!
Honestly, it is the best bit of kit I have, but you will need another power source or extended battery for the exec to handle the constant streaming for any length of time. I get about 4 hours out of it, same life as the WL-HDD .
This seems very similar to the WL-HDD, but the power consumption is 3A. This would be a challenge to run by battery. It also has no homebrew software/bios.
As I said earlier in this post, it automatically streams files unless you choose to copy them.Through Resco, the drive is mounted just like the storage card, under the "Network" heading. To access it you simply have to log onto the drive using Wi-fi, and map the network drive by tap-holding and choosing the option "map network drive" over the network icon in resco. I use Wisbar advanced desktop (which I also recommend) so I have an icon on my desktop that goes straight there. Listening to music off it is just like from a storage card.
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I use wisbar adv. and desktop ,b/ my question is this.how long did it take before you received your merchandise?and is there a translation in dollars for US users?
Regards
Pyrojester said:
A MUCH cheaper option is a WL-HDD with an external PSP battery (or a car adaptor for in-car storage). Files are accessable with resco file explorer easily or from windows file explorer with a little more difficulty. There is also a huge WL-HDD community with rom updates and so forth. Using it myself with great results, battery life is good for 4 hours streaming, but a bigger 5v 1Amp+ battery could be purchased. The battery I recommend is good as it comes with the USB-Barrel connector you need to power the drive.
WL-HDD:
http://www.microanvika.com/product.asp?TXT=INFO&PNO=ASU54305A
(or ebay it but less reliable)
Battery I use, others could work.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/External-batt...QQihZ005QQcategoryZ127742QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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I have looked high and low for something as suffice as the one mentioned and the only finding that i could locate is the one below:
http://www.iomega.com/direct/outlet...SORTMENT<>ast_id=26890319&bmUID=1162521361616
But its not wifi capable.I would like to order the one in this thread if someone could give me better detail on the travel time from the UK to the US.
Regards
Another Option...
I use this device : http://www.photographyblog.com/reviews_vosonic_xs_drive_super_vp6210.php (review)
I originally purchased it as a backup device for photos, as you can insert a memory card and copy its contents to the internal hard drive.
The 6210 uses laptop hard drives (any size) and it's easy to swap drives (it's supplied with a keyring screwdriver to open it up and detach drives).
It can also format your memory card.
Unlike most devices of this type, it can also write from the hard drive to your memory card, so just pop your SD card in and transfer any files you want to it, then pop your SD card back in your Universal.
Also, it has basic MP3 player functions, so I have it hooked up to my car stereo, using a standard 3.5" connector. No more listening to moronic radio jocks, bliss! Mine was supplied with a car (cigarette lighter socket) charger.
The device normally lasts about 3hr on a single charge and it has a sleep function, that switches off the screen and/or the hard drive if not being used, so it can last a fair bit.
It can also connect to a tv and play .avi or .mpeg-2 movies...
The company that makes these is bringing out a new version with an 8hr battery and a 3.6" screen, so I'm saving my pennies!
That is kind of pricey.I like the idea of being able to travel and change the options of what is stored on my SD card.Thank you.What does the amount transfer to in US dollars?
Regards
southernint3l said:
I have looked high and low for something as suffice as the one mentioned and the only finding that i could locate is the one below:
http://www.iomega.com/direct/outlet...SORTMENT<>ast_id=26890319&bmUID=1162521361616
But its not wifi capable.I would like to order the one in this thread if someone could give me better detail on the travel time from the UK to the US.
Regards
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I bought mine from a friend, but as I work for micro anvika I know they are reliable . As for shipping to america, i would recommend scanning ebay, or just googling it to purchase.
Best Mp3 player for streaming
By far the best mp3 player for both songs and audio books including streaming through wifi networks is Mortplayer. You'll love it. I imagine it will work perfectly with your wifi HD drive also. Big buttons for no stylus use. For net work drives to show up just map drive in built in file explorer first then Mortplayer picks it up. Mortplayer is free but i recommend donating as it is one of the best apps i have seen.

Tips on how to get around Kindles small memory

Just thought I would throw out there some methods my family uses to keep our kids Kindles active despite its very small memory. We have children 12 and 4, and they love their Kindles.
First our Kindles are rooted and run cm7 w/ ics theme.
We don't use Amazon anything because of root, but we have everything already in place to cover that. We have a Netflix account for video (My 4 year old son loves the plethora of cartoons available) and we use Google's FREE streaming music application.
Now this is pretty basic stuff, and works great where you have WIFI. However what do you do when you are on the road? Our solution is based around our mobile smartphones. My wife and I both have them, and luckily are grandfathered into unlimited data plans. Which is important if you are going to be using them to also support Kindles.
While in the car my wife will support one kindle, and I will support another. Are phones are also rooted and we use two Apps to do this Wifi Tether and Wifi File Explorer. If you are not familiar Wifi Tether will allow your phone to be a mobile hotspot without paying for the extra plan fees. Wifi File Explorer simply allows your device to explored by another device. You also can put this app on the Kindle.
We use the Wifi Tether app to provide internet service to the Kindles allowing them to function fully. Kids can download apps, surf web, netflix, stream music etc.
We use the Wifi File Explorer to take advantage of our phones larger and changeable memory. You can store anything on your phone such as movies not available on netflix, and your kids can then watch them on their kindle. You can buy a large memory card to support this, or even use multiple smaller ones. You would just have to switch them out like you would a cd or dvd.
You of course can place your own movies on a file streaming service. However Wifi File Explorer, and using phones memory doesn't require a signal to work. So if your somewhere where is cell service is weak you may have problems streaming.
I am sure others may have some thoughts or tips for what they do. I just thought I would share ours. Also a verizon 3g signal will support two kindles watching netflix, but it gets pretty choppy. That's why we try to use one kindle per phone. Plus while drive the wife and I are usually using Google Music for ourselves.
I have a HTPC with 16TB of storage. I use Emit to stream video to my Android devices (including 3 Kindle Fire's). It works pretty well with video up to 720p, my wireless infrastructure is 802.11g though.
I use Emit to also stream outside of my local network, my Kindle Fire's while tethered (using ZT-180 Adhoc Switcher & WiFi Tether) to the 4G LTE connection of one of our phones stream video pretty well.
I use File Expert to access SMB shares on my HTPC over WiFi. It works great. I can copy files to/from my HTPC. I can install .apk files over WiFi. I pretty much only use the internal storage of my Kindle File for apps and books. I even copy my ROM backups to my HTPC using File Expert, no reason to keep them on the KF since I can copy them back over if I need to during recovery.
On the road though I have an 80GB iPod Classic connected to the AUX port of the built in DVD player in my truck. It has pretty close to 80GB of childrens content in .mp4 - more than my kids will watch during a single ride anyway.
I'm not a big fan streaming services like Netflix. I rarely use the Amazon instant streaming service on my Kindle Fire (unroot with OTA Rootkeeper) or on the Roku 2 I bought just to stream video from Amazon since it's include with Prime.
I love the Popcorn Hour and Squeezebox remote apps that I side loaded on my KF. The Roku 2 one that I bought (Roku Remote 2.16) is alright, the keyboard is pretty meh and kind of ruins it for me. I guess I'm just not a fan of the Roku 2.

[Q] Anyone have a wifi hard drive solution?

I'm looking for something that will let me access all my music and movies from my nexus 10. Something that won't need any PC set up our access. I gave my laptop to my girlfriend and use my nexus 10 and galaxy nexus exclusively. I bought a GoFlex 3TB Home yesterday thinking that I could plug it in to my router and a ton of storage fit music and movies. I returned today because after a day of trying to set it up I could not get anything close to a smooth experience. It took me half the day just to register it with seagates servers (the drive is unusable until registered) and the go flex android app is a joke.
Does anyone have a Wi-Fi hard drive set up that doesn't go through a PC? I thought about picking up a go flex satellite but after the goflex home I have no faith in seagates system.
kosmab said:
I'm looking for something that will let me access all my music and movies from my nexus 10. Something that won't need any PC set up our access. I gave my laptop to my girlfriend and use my nexus 10 and galaxy nexus exclusively. I bought a GoFlex 3TB Home yesterday thinking that I could plug it in to my router and a ton of storage fit music and movies. I returned today because after a day of trying to set it up I could not get anything close to a smooth experience. It took me half the day just to register it with seagates servers (the drive is unusable until registered) and the go flex android app is a joke.
Does anyone have a Wi-Fi hard drive set up that doesn't go through a PC? I thought about picking up a go flex satellite but after the goflex home I have no faith in seagates system.
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I was looking at these. They have a bridged mode as well so you can maintain the Internet connection.
http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Wi-D...id=1356746901&sr=8-3&keywords=wifi+hard+drive
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I just picked up one of the Kingston 64gb with drives. Really liking it so far and have had a good experience streaming movies from it, not a ton of storage but would recommend. I got it mainly for traveling with the kids for them to watch movies.
My router has some sort of DLNA thing and a USB port; not entirely sure if it would be usable for storage though, but it should be fine for media streaming.
I use BubbleUPnP to stream media from my PCs to my nexus 10. Its available in the Google Play Store
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Maybe this is what you're looking for :
Sorry - wasn't allowed to post a link. But look out for CloudFTP.
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I picked up the seagate goflex satellite for $100 during the holidays. Stock, It's definitely hindered by the lousy software/firmware, but you can replace it, either on your own or for $35 you can get a package from www.hackseagatesatellite.com. Essentially, you are installing a linux server system on it. You can run SMB, webDav, FTP, iTunes server, or DLNA system. Multiple devices can also stream from it simultaneously.
I haven't tried it, but it also has dropbox and eyefi integration.
The hardware is not fast enough to stream a 30 gb 1080p mkv file. But if you transcode it with handbrake to a reasonable size, it streams well with only an occasional stutter with the stock player.
If you use BS player in LAN mode, and set the buffer to large, It plays the entire 1080p movie without any hiccups or pauses. (Avatar plays beautifully. I am also undervolted and underclocked with the KTmanta kernel)
I'm not quite sure if this would fit your situation but try using a NAS (Network Attached Storage). Then just find an app on the play store that supports streaming from one and viola! You can even take it a step further and download movies onto your N10, then transfer them to the NAS, allowing anyone with access to view/stream content.
I know Newegg has a dedicated section for NAS setups, but I'd consider buying a NAS enabled hard drive bay and tossing in a few old drives. Upgrade-ability + Customization :good:
An additional bonus to using NAS is you do not need a router that supports it in comparison to DLNA /USB support.
I would agree with this, I have the same setup - using an old version of Dlink's DNS-323.

[Q] Interested in Nexus 10 - Thoughts & Questions

Hi everyone,
I was looking at both the Nexus 10 and the Samsung Note 10. I saw the specs for both and obviously the Nexus has better specs aside from the lack of SD card slot.
I was wonder from other users if they could clue me into short comings for a few of the things I would like to get this tablet for.
1. I have lot of tutorials videos that I would like to use to tablet to see. They come in various formats including wmv, mov, flv, and sometimes other formats. Will viewing tutorials on this tablet be a problem? One thing I am concerned about is how will I be able to store them on the tablet considering the storage is so small. I did some brief searching online and apparently I can get some wire and hook up an external thumb usb drive. I rip a lot of movie dvds for my home theater (Usually movies are around 2GB+ .mov).
2. Is tethering from lets say an HTC EVO (3G) ok for surfing the web when on the road?
3. If you don't have a working wifi connection, can you still use the tablet and google maps for directions? GPS should work without wifi no? Guess the question becomes can you download google maps before hand.
I would suggest getting the N10 and popcorn player for your videos that way you take notes while watching videos usig either freenote or any of the other good handwriting apps
the lack of SD card slot can be easily overcome by using an OTG cable and installing the Nexus Media Importer app. You can connect any USB flash drive or SD card reader to the OTG cable.
I would still suggest getting a 32GB version. You can't store games on a SD card.
Mine tethers fine with a Galaxy S2 wifi hotspot. No reason yours won't.
Not sure about the GPS thing.
Thanks for the feedback and info guys!
Good point on using popcorn player and having a note taking app open!
1. My N10 managed to play every video I threw at it using VLC player. Also you can connect not only USB drives and SD Card readers but also certain 2.5" or 1.8" hard drives. I use a WD MyPassport 500GB and it works as long as the tablet's battery is above about 75%.
2. Tethering works fine. WLAN or Bluetooth, whatever you prefer. Bluetooth tethering is fairly easy on the battery.
3. You can download Maps for offline viewing and GPS works offline as well. I saved my home city (Berlin) and some areas I often go to and it takes up about 150 MB.

Nvidia shield as a fileserver/torrentbox/Kodi-box?

Hello there peeps!
Im thinking of getting rid of my old laptop as my torrentbox/Kodi and fileserver. Its noisy, draws lots of power and it can barely handle 1080p HEVC movies. So Im really longing to buy a Nvidia Shield TV 16GB
Im thinking of buying the 16GB version, putting a 128GB micro-sd card in it and use a powered usb3.0 HUB to connect my current 3 external HDDs to it.
My plans is to let the 128GB micro-sd card act as the torrent partition and storage for the games and apps. When the apps are finished Im moving the stuff to the three external NTFS HDDs and store it on them. All this would be nice to be able to manage with my Android phone. Im thinking that it might be hard on the unit to handle torrents at the same time we watch movies or play games. Is there an app to paus the torrents if the rest needs more resources, or make some kind of script?
Will all this work? Ive read that the Shield TV cant handle more than two external USBs thanks to the limitatons of Android but this can be fixed by rooting it. Is it correct?
You need to get a SMB server app working on it. Google: Funkyfresh Samba
uTorrent has an Android version.
I think Android can handle more than two ext HDD's. My sister has 4-5 HDD's connected to her AFTV, same with my cousin. Try StickMount.
I don't know but I think it's going to be hard to do what you want. I'd buy an Asus ChromeBox, put Win10 on it and use that for Kodi MySQL server, torrent, media, etc.
Ive been curious about this, when you say your sister had 4-5 HDDs connected to AFTV, im assuming she has them connected via some sort of usb hub?
I wouldn't use an SD card for long-term torrenting as they're not very good at handling frequent writing.
hobs0n said:
Hello there peeps!
Im thinking of getting rid of my old laptop as my torrentbox/Kodi and fileserver. Its noisy, draws lots of power and it can barely handle 1080p HEVC movies. So Im really longing to buy a Nvidia Shield TV 16GB
Im thinking of buying the 16GB version, putting a 128GB micro-sd card in it and use a powered usb3.0 HUB to connect my current 3 external HDDs to it.
My plans is to let the 128GB micro-sd card act as the torrent partition and storage for the games and apps. When the apps are finished Im moving the stuff to the three external NTFS HDDs and store it on them. All this would be nice to be able to manage with my Android phone. Im thinking that it might be hard on the unit to handle torrents at the same time we watch movies or play games. Is there an app to paus the torrents if the rest needs more resources, or make some kind of script?
Will all this work? Ive read that the Shield TV cant handle more than two external USBs thanks to the limitatons of Android but this can be fixed by rooting it. Is it correct?
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So heres my experience so far: Currently I have 1 external usb 3.0 HDD connected to my shield tv. using an android app called servers ultimate pro, I was able to create multiple file servers. The nice thing is that shield tv is already low powered, but can even go into sleep mode and still run the server (i have a feeling sleep mode just turns off the screen). with servers ultimate, you can get lots of configuration options, limiting the amount of users, ip addresses that can access, you can set up basic rules, and notifications for things like if the server stops or starts, to email, text, pop up a notification, etc. Its pretty nice.
But heres the catch: I've been searching for a solution for over a month now, but transfer rates are slow im getting 5-10MBps on average, but i know the network is capable of more. after searching, it seems to be a limitation of either android, or the protocols the app is using. Another user on here pointed out to me that the SMB protocol for instance, seems to be running SMB v1 (which is already up to like V3- or V4, which are more feature rich and capable of much faster speeds)
then theres the issue of what devices will be accessing it. So far, ive tried my android phone, my windows 10 PC, and an iphone. the android phone can see the servers just fine when configured properly, iphone didn't seem to want to work without any sort of specialized app (which honestly i didn't even try after that point), and windows 10 works, but if you want to map a network drive, your going to need the SMB protocol, and even then it took several weeks of google searching until several tweaks, registry settings, etc finally allowed windows 10 to see my server.
I don't torrent, so unfortunately can't help you on that front, but like another user pointed out, using the sd card will just wear out the amount of times it can read/write. if it does work out for your needs, why not just save directly to the external HDDs?
For the record, I was able to stream using things like kodi or another media player, but i do notice that any initial loading takes several seconds. for example, initial playback will take several seconds to load, but once the video plays, it plays smooth and doesnt stutter or pause, UNLESS i were to try fast forwarding or skipping to another section, then the video takes several seconds again. this all works for my personal needs (for now) but other users might want more demand.
hope any of this helps.
unvaluablespace said:
Ive been curious about this, when you say your sister had 4-5 HDDs connected to AFTV, im assuming she has them connected via some sort of usb hub?
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Yea, both my sister and cousin have the 10 port USB 2.0 hub from Amazon working fine on their Amazon Fire TV's.
Cool, thats good to know. I've been kind of curious about this for in the future (i don't see myself using more than 4 HDD's for whatever server setup i use) Hopefully the shield wont have an issue with this, either. Now just trying to figure out my transfer speed issue. lol
Thank you very much for the experience and help!
This certainly learned me very valuable points
what is the point of putting a server on shield tv?
can you download torrents directly to the shield (hd)?
and would plex be able to see these files?
I have personally done exactly what you are looking for with one of my shield boxes. I installed a Linux chroot on my shield tv (I ended up flashing foll android as it was easier), installed transmission-cli in there, and ran kodi on top then enabled media sharing, and put an ssh server on the machine. Works fantastically.
what does this all enable to do?
This is pretty close to my plans, minus the torrent box and fileserver.
my plan is to load up my new external drive and copy everything from my laptop and existing externals into one location (so I can eliminate duplicates) and then move it to the SHIELD TV and setup KODI so it sees all my files and use it for playback (I can always routinely plan file transfers to it manually thru the USB and computer when I need to add new content), but it would be nice to be able to access the external over the network if possible.
kdb424 said:
I have personally done exactly what you are looking for with one of my shield boxes. I installed a Linux chroot on my shield tv (I ended up flashing foll android as it was easier), installed transmission-cli in there, and ran kodi on top then enabled media sharing, and put an ssh server on the machine. Works fantastically.
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Uhm so you are running some kind of Linux or what is foll Android?
unvaluablespace said:
So heres my experience so far: Currently I have 1 external usb 3.0 HDD connected to my shield tv. using an android app called servers ultimate pro, I was able to create multiple file servers. The nice thing is that shield tv is already low powered, but can even go into sleep mode and still run the server (i have a feeling sleep mode just turns off the screen). with servers ultimate, you can get lots of configuration options, limiting the amount of users, ip addresses that can access, you can set up basic rules, and notifications for things like if the server stops or starts, to email, text, pop up a notification, etc. Its pretty nice.
But heres the catch: I've been searching for a solution for over a month now, but transfer rates are slow im getting 5-10MBps on average, but i know the network is capable of more. after searching, it seems to be a limitation of either android, or the protocols the app is using. Another user on here pointed out to me that the SMB protocol for instance, seems to be running SMB v1 (which is already up to like V3- or V4, which are more feature rich and capable of much faster speeds)
then theres the issue of what devices will be accessing it. So far, ive tried my android phone, my windows 10 PC, and an iphone. the android phone can see the servers just fine when configured properly, iphone didn't seem to want to work without any sort of specialized app (which honestly i didn't even try after that point), and windows 10 works, but if you want to map a network drive, your going to need the SMB protocol, and even then it took several weeks of google searching until several tweaks, registry settings, etc finally allowed windows 10 to see my server.
I don't torrent, so unfortunately can't help you on that front, but like another user pointed out, using the sd card will just wear out the amount of times it can read/write. if it does work out for your needs, why not just save directly to the external HDDs?
For the record, I was able to stream using things like kodi or another media player, but i do notice that any initial loading takes several seconds. for example, initial playback will take several seconds to load, but once the video plays, it plays smooth and doesnt stutter or pause, UNLESS i were to try fast forwarding or skipping to another section, then the video takes several seconds again. this all works for my personal needs (for now) but other users might want more demand.
hope any of this helps.
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Thanks for the all the valuable info!
Using the Shield TV as a torrentbox/fileserver/NAS is only temporary until I can afford a real NAS, or preferably get a mini Linux box running as a VPN server and router but that's in the future, in fact Shield tv is also in the future since I can't afford it now =)
But back to your comments, I checked out Ultimate Pro and it seems it's dead but maybe some of its servers works good Regarding SMB I'm thinking of getting another app for SMB sharing.
Another thing I'm wondering is the multitasking abilities of the Shield TV, sure it's by far the most powerful Android TV box but how can it handle torrenting, SMB sharing, running Kodi at the same time? Or do you have to manually manage it? Or get some apps that let you set up certain priorities? And will it be able to game on the Shield while Kodi/SMB/torrents running in the background?
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Thanks for the all the valuable info!
Using the Shield TV as a torrentbox/fileserver/NAS is only temporary until I can afford a real NAS, or preferably get a mini Linux box running as a VPN server and router but that's in the future, in fact Shield tv is also in the future since I can't afford it now =)
But back to your comments, I checked out Ultimate Pro and it seems it's dead but maybe some of its servers works good Regarding SMB I'm thinking of getting another app for SMB sharing.
Another thing I'm wondering is the multitasking abilities of the Shield TV, sure it's by far the most powerful Android TV box but how can it handle torrenting, SMB sharing, running Kodi at the same time? Or do you have to manually manage it? Or get some apps that let you set up certain priorities? And will it be able to game on the Shield while Kodi/SMB/torrents running in the background?
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I don't torrent, so unfortunately I can't help you there, but I have tried using my file server in multiple ways: file transfers & streaming video, while running another app, even streaming games. Here are a few examples of things i've tried:
file transferring a big file to my pc, while gamestreaming on the nvidia shield tv at the same time (worked great. I saw no issues during this time)
file transferring a big file to my pc, while running a local app such as netflix, emulators, youtube, (as you can see i tried both maximizing bandwidth, while even testing lag with cpu intensive tasks. again, worked great)
streaming a 1080p movie from the shield tv, to my pc, while gamestreaming from the same pc, back to the shield tv (seemed to work fine. honestly didnt test this for extended period.)
streaming a 1080p movie from the shield tv to my pc, while running local apps on shield tv such as netflix, emulators, youtube, etc (once again, seemed to work fine)
So as you can see, the shield tv seemed to handle everything i threw at it rather well. i even tried multiple apps for multitasking on the shield and i just honestly did not see any performance hints with the media server, aside from anything youd normally expect on the shield tv. keep in mind i am running on a gigabit ethernet network, wired on both ends, from the shield tv to the router, and router to the pc.
my only issue with it all is as mentioned before: transfer speeds are just barely fast enough, even though i know my network and the device is capable of much faster speeds, but the cpu and ram on the shield tv seemed to handle everything i tried rather well.
as for your comment about trying other smb apps, ive gone through several, and the ones i was able to manage to get working, all ended up with the same speeds as with ultimate servers pro. :\ If you can find something that gives you faster speeds, i would love to hear about it so i can try it. i tried ftp server, smb server, webdav server, etc and all seem to max out at about the same speed.
Thanks for your reply!
It really seems the Shield is awesome and powerful to handle multitasking! I'm longing to get my own!
Crappy about the SMB speeds, let's find solutions to that problems
Hm I havent found any real data on the speed between a computer and an Android device when it comes to SMB...
When I transfer between my old gaming laptop from the external usb2.0 HDDs to my Xperia Z3, I get between 700KB/s to 1100KB/s.
The laptop is connected with Ethernet cable to the Netgear CG3799 router and the Z3 is connected with full connection on 802.11N 5Ghz. Altho the laptop is pretty sweaty atm, its converting old DVDs to HEVC and downloading around 15 torrents
Ill compare speeds later when the laptop isnt as busy
What kind of speeds do you peeps get when transfering between Android devices other devices?
Which Samba app are you using?
Hey folks,
I'm trying the same now. Had an Odroid XU4 as file and MySQL Server and try to replace it for an all in one Shield TV Solution.
I'm running a rooted Shield with SambaDroid for the SMB Share which works fine. And KSWEB Server for MySQL and ftp.
Sometimes it seems like the apps are closing in the background, I don't know why, seems to be a android multitadking problem to free up RAM.
But my biggest problem is the transfer speeds. No matter what protocoll (smb/ftp) I'm not getting more then 8 MB/s read out of the box. I tried to read from internal memory, sdcard and my external HDD. All came out with the same speed connected over GBit LAN to my PC.
Write side it much faster with 20 MB/s what I do not really understand but you need root to write to external memory like sdcard or usb.
So far it works, but it is less then optimal compared to my Ordoid XU4 what did 80MB/s but has no HDMI 2.0 output :/
Maybe Android 6.0 brings more speed for the network because It has to be bottlenecked somewhere in the OS, FTP and SMB showing the same speeds.
What's funny is I was actually doing the reverse of what you're doing. I got my Shield as an Android media center device since my Odroid U2 never seemed up to my standards with Kodi. When HardKernel came out with the XU4 I scooped it up and made it my webserver, after seeing an Android TV rom out for it, I flashed it and now Kodi's UI will lag like crazy after about a half hour of usage.
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