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[Q] Full version android?

I read that Fire will have a stripped/modified version of android. Would the devs eventually be able to load the full version of android on to fire? Right now I'm paranoid by the possibility of having limited usage due to the modified version of android.

Its got the Amazon interface, but it will be running over 2.3
Plus, amazon has said they will not stand in the way of rooting the device, so its very likely that within a month or so some ROMS will be out for it.
Speculators say that the specs have potential for Android 3.0

512MB of RAM = kinda sucks.

Same as in ipad 2
Samsung Galaxy S Dos indeed

Honestly. I'm more worried about ice cream sandwich than honeycomb.

churro7 said:
Same as in ipad 2
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Completely different OS with a significantly different style of memory management. Apples and oranges.

Yeah but 512MB certainly isn't lacking, especially considering it's a device that's under $200. It would've been hard to put in any more and keep it at that price point. Also ICS is supposed to be pretty memory efficient.

Once its able to be rooted and loaded with custom roms I'm buying three. One for me and one for each of my kids. IM getting an Htc Flyer for the wifey.
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A little caution here might be in order. The android devs are a wickedly creative crew BUT...until the AF is rooted (consistently) I would NOT presume it can or even will be!
Note how the Transformers were rootable up to the later B70 models. Then after that....nada so far. It's all about the SDK, bootloader, etc.
Wait and see if the AF can be rooted is all I say.

EDIT: Disregard.

i hope it has full android

seriousneo said:
i hope it has full android
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No its a heavily modiefied 2.3 android. And putting full android ob there will break the cloud storage one has, and 6gb is not enough to have all the apps you want.
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HaloMediaz said:
No its a heavily modiefied 2.3 android. And putting full android ob there will break the cloud storage one has, and 6gb is not enough to have all the apps you want.
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Unless you only plan to use it as an ereader and for watching movies.
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It's possible?

Any chance of having the Nook Color Tablet OS on the original Nook Color?
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Isn't the 1.4 update that is coming out the same thing?
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I don't know that is why i'm asking.
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Not 100% sure, but I do think the NC will get 1.4

Any chance of having the Nook Color Tablet OS on the original Nook Color?
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No. No one is going to take apart the tablet o/s and port it to the color.

patruns said:
No. No one is going to take apart the tablet o/s and port it to the color.
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Really? Like for sure all knowing patruns?

You can run a Lincoln with a 4 cylinder but I wouldn't brag about it.

Neckberg said:
Really? Like for sure all knowing patruns?
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You are welcome to head up a project, but I'd bet my first born that none of the regular devs are going to be interested in doing it.
And your sarcasm is duly noted......

As patruns has said, the two devices use different processors, have different partitioning setups, and different memory configurations. As the nook tablet is only $250.00 (the original price of the nook color), I would say that if you wanted the functions of the nook tab, buy a nook tab.
While it might be possible to port it, there is no need.
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Worth trade my LG Optimus 3D P920 for a Moto Atrix 4G?

Well, this is it.
Is it worth trade? I was thinking about use the webtop and try to buy a vehicle dock and lapdock for a better use of the phone... But seeing on another way I have an ipad 3 and its better than the docks for Atrix, I can just plug my iPad via hdmi on my TV and I get a better "webtop".
But I still getting it on my head, is it really worth? Maybe is just excitement now with the docks that Atrix have.
Sorry my bad english btw.

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i dont really use the hdmi of the atrix but im excited to do so when i get my new tv. its a quite good phone and i hate lg but the screen quality is extremely bad (rgbw pentile matrix)... plus no 3D. the hardware is good enough, but the lack of official ics is not very positive
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Looks like Optimus 3D will get official ICS...
So you think better keep my LG? Because it have the hdmi function as well, only not the webtop, but I really dont think it is that better when compare with my Ipad 3.

Hmm...not so sure. One thing that its actually better on the Atrix is the development support. Last time i checked when i was looking to root and update my friend's O3D, the development was kind of dead at the moment. Not so sure how it is now, but it usually slows down with time, so my guess its that it must be kind of dead right now. Atrix's development is not the best one, but its great. And the community here is great. If you are OK with not receiving official ICS, i would do the trade.
I would look for something better though. Maybe a Galaxy Nexus if you can find a deal for it.

djluis48 said:
Hmm...not so sure. One thing that its actually better on the Atrix is the development support. Last time i checked when i was looking to root and update my friend's O3D, the development was kind of dead at the moment. Not so sure how it is now, but it usually slows down with time, so my guess its that it must be kind of dead right now. Atrix's development is not the best one, but its great. And the community here is great. If you are OK with not receiving official ICS, i would do the trade.
I would look for something better though. Maybe a Galaxy Nexus if you can find a deal for it.
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The thing is that O3D community is kind waiting the ICS uptade... But I dont know, Im really confused about trade it.
Cause the O3D can not get the ICS and stuck on 2.3 forever, thats my fear, on the other hand In Atrix I would get enough custom roms as I can.
Any additional info would be appreciate!
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SanderVisions said:
... the O3D can not get the ICS and stuck on 2.3 forever, thats my fear, on the other hand In Atrix I would get enough custom roms as I can.
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It seems like you've answered your own question :good: go for it!!

Noway i will go for an android phone with less than 1Gb ram.
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balintmaci said:
i dont really use the hdmi of the atrix but im excited to do so when i get my new tv. its a quite good phone and i hate lg but the screen quality is extremely bad (rgbw pentile matrix)... plus no 3D. the hardware is good enough, but the lack of official ics is not very positive
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voncount said:
Noway i will go for an android phone with less than 1Gb ram.
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O3D is dual-channel 512mb = 1GB.

SanderVisions said:
O3D is dual-channel 512mb = 1GB.
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Nope, total is 512 and you have 2 channel with 256mb each.
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voncount said:
Nope, total is 512 and you have 2 channel with 256mb each.
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Really man? Argh... I Just tough it was 1gb.
Now im really considering to trade it.

If I look at my Atrix here, I wouldn't choose it again. Honestly, I love the fingerprint scanner - and due to that + the chipset we're pretty stuck on gingerbread. A ton of apps do require ICS and JB and we're pretty stuck; Don't want to sound desperate or pessimistic, but even my P1 runs on JB by now - so I wouldn't swap if I were you.

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If I look at my Atrix here, I wouldn't choose it again. Honestly, I love the fingerprint scanner - and due to that + the chipset we're pretty stuck on gingerbread. A ton of apps do require ICS and JB and we're pretty stuck; Don't want to sound desperate or pessimistic, but even my P1 runs on JB by now - so I wouldn't swap if I were you.
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LG Optimus 3D won't gonna get any ICS it appears... And the Atrix can use JB from custom roms right? So it won't be stuck forever.

If it was me I'd do the trade but I think you should look at other phones too maybe ones with ICS and JB support. But you should also look how active the development is. Luckily us atrix users have great developers
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inaudibly said:
If it was me I'd do the trade but I think you should look at other phones too maybe ones with ICS and JB support. But you should also look how active the development is. Luckily us atrix users have great developers
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I don't have any other options, and for me... I use my phone to SMS, calls and a little bit web search, but I use alot the HDMI feature to see some movies on my girlfriend's house, so webtop would be cool too.
If I can upgrade, even from custom roms to JB or ICS Im going to be happy anyway, I dont need a powerful smartphone, only one which dont freezes and lags when im texting or awnsering an call like my old Moto Milestone (hate it).

Atrix can do all of them things perfectly and webtop on ICS is looking promising. Or you can use tablet ui which is quite good. If you have no other choice I'd recommend the atrix I'm running epinters latest CM10 build, the battery is great and it is a great daily driver would highly recommend that.
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inaudibly said:
Atrix can do all of them things perfectly and webtop on ICS is looking promising. Or you can use tablet ui which is quite good. If you have no other choice I'd recommend the atrix I'm running epinters latest CM10 build, the battery is great and it is a great daily driver would highly recommend that.
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Yea, I just want an good phone to daily uses... If the customs roms from Atrix grants this, Im happy to make the deal.
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i have just gone from evo 3d to atrix 4g, my opinion the atrix is better ,great phone

It is just not funny to have more workarounds than features due to nvidia and Motorola

And also the lapdock is so useful, I can even plug my PC on it and use.
Atrix is really a good deal, Im going to make it if my friend still wants.

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I love the fingerprint scanner - and due to that + the chipset we're pretty stuck on gingerbread.
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Lies. The ICS leak has semi-good drivers and FP support.

I also think that the Atrix is a better phone. Only issue with it is that the Atrix tends to damage the digitizer by itself. It happens suddenly. One day you are using your phone normally, 100% ok, and the next one you have a dead strip on your digitizer with no response at all. Look that issue up before you make the trade.
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Firefox OS for Kindle Fire

Is there by any chance we will get to ever see the Firefox OS on the kindle fire? Firefox OS will be released on Mid-2013 and is there by any chance will a developer will work on this OS? It would Bree awesome if we get this ported to the kindle fire, after all it is made to run on ARM processors.
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Its very possible.
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What I wonder is of there will requirements similar needed to run Ubuntu.
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I was looking into it and it doesn't look hat to build it for the kindle at all. Once I he a new computer next week ill try it out. (Testers?)
And it doesn't need nearly as much power of Ubuntu. It can function on a lot less, it's made for new low end devices.

That would be very cool to see run on the kindle. Would make me thing about getting one for my self

It would be very nice to see it run, it sucks that im not good at editing kernels though

I'am interested more in Ubuntu Tablet

lsab4007 said:
I'am interested more in Ubuntu Tablet
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I don't think the kindle will ever get near Ubuntu.
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JRBX550 said:
I don't think the kindle will ever get near Ubuntu.
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Don't be so sure about that. It has recently been discovered that Ubuntu uses CM10 as it's base for Android devices. Hashcode's kernel has made this device much faster and much more capable than it was ever intended to be so it's not too hard to imagine, after the bugs are ironed out for the official full release, that it could be ported to the Kindle Fire rather easily and without too much of a drop in performance.

tobiascuypers said:
I was looking into it and it doesn't look hat to build it for the kindle at all. Once I he a new computer next week ill try it out. (Testers?)
And it doesn't need nearly as much power of Ubuntu. It can function on a lot less, it's made for new low end devices.
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Count me in as a tester if you get it built.

soupmagnet said:
Don't be so sure about that. It has recently been discovered that Ubuntu uses CM10 as it's base for Android devices. Hashcode's kernel has made this device much faster and much more capable than it was ever intended to be so it's not too hard to imagine, after the bugs are ironed out for the official full release, that it could be ported to the Kindle Fire rather easily and without too much of a drop in performance.
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It will probably take time before that happens. Maybe a lot.
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Another t thing is of this is a OS for Low-End Devices(-$200), then could this have some Enhancements, I mean the Kindle Fire came from a OS(v.2.3) that was for Low-End devices, so maybe it will run smoothly.
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Firefox OS is being primarily developed for under developed countries and so for low end devices in mind (so I read). If this is true, I would imagine that it would be screaming fast on a Kindle Fire.
Wouldn't mind playing with it if someone could figure out how to make a ROM for it.

I'm up to see it on the Kindle also. I don't particularly care for the concept of web based apps but if they make stand alone HTML5 software w/o a data connection required, that'd be sweet.

Same here. I been trying to get the Linux on Android app to work and its not work for me. So a Ubuntu on table would be awesome.
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justrobd said:
Same here. I been trying to get the Linux on Android app to work and its not work for me. So a Ubuntu on table would be awesome.
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What??? Please explain you post.
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I don't think the kindle will ever get near Ubuntu.
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Look up ubuntu touch otter and otter2

This would be intriguing.

bubbly193 said:
Look up ubuntu touch otter and otter2
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Those are previews and they barely work. This is not Otter 2. And Officially you need at least a 1GB of RAM and a bigger processor plus a lot more memory. Its way easier to build on Otter2 but this is Otter
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Getting back on topic...
Firefox OS is currently being ported to the Kindle Fire HD7 and from the looks of it, we'll start seeing alpha releases within the next week or so. I'm not sure if there are any plans to bring it to the KF1, but I imagine it wouldn't be that hard to make it happen.

Ubuntu Touch for the TF300 - Possibly a BOUNTY?

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install?action=show&redirect=TouchInstallProcess
I would happily throw any dev 20 bucks that could get this going, looks really interesting. Anyone else interested in this yet?

I'd be interested as well
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That would be really awsome!

don't know 'bout 20 but 10 for sure, 100%

I am currently working on this I will report back soon
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keeganmccallum said:
I am currently working on this I will report back soon
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Good luck
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keeganmccallum said:
I am currently working on this I will report back soon
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Also working on it. Can boot fine and get in via adb, but screen stays black.
Are you interested in joining efforts? Please feel free to PM me, if you are.
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You guys working on a dual boot method or a port replacing android?
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msd24200 said:
You guys working on a dual boot method or a port replacing android?
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Well, one step at a time. First get it to work, then dual boot is the next step.
Finally, it might be possible to run them "together", for example running CM apps in Ubuntu Touch.
I mean by transforming the base Android system into a fully-fledged CM and connect it up to Ubuntu.
Not sure that is feasible yet, but there might be a chance. And it is sure a while down the road.
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I don't think that's possible because none of the Java code is in Ubuntu mobile.

arnarg said:
I don't think that's possible because none of the Java code is in Ubuntu mobile.
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Well, not now. Once we have achieved dual boot, all the Java code will be back there.
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Really disappointed that it's only a "skin" on top of CM10.1, proper ubuntu is what we need, to actually run linux apps but still, every advancement is positive but I'm not interested in another android port, I like jelly bean as it is, AOSP ftw.

crossmission said:
Really disappointed that it's only a "skin" on top of CM10.1, proper ubuntu is what we need, to actually run linux apps but still, every advancement is positive but I'm not interested in another android port, I like jelly bean as it is, AOSP ftw.
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It's not running on top of CM10.1 is running on top of the CM10.1 kernel (and some drivers for the hardware) and I wouldn't say it's fair to call that a "skin". That's like calling every linux distro a linux skin.

true, my frasing is wrong but it doesn't change the fact that it's not capable of running linux apps, it's just another take on android, and on a tablet such as this I'd love to be able to dual-boot into android/linux, let's see where archlinux will take us but with the way things are changing and people upgrading to newer devices this will be left behind as well eventually, and to think that since the first quad core device a year ago today we call the tegra 3 a low-powered chipset compared to the powerhouses coming out, and people still don't have a quad core cpu at their home pcs and laptops, anyway, offtopic, let's see...

as far as I heard from many different people now it is just something to show the skin as main features like wallpaper, rotation and others aren't working yet although they should... Basically I would prefer a dualboot solution with stock ubuntu and android, but just my personal opinion...