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Pulled the trigger, and made a change

Just wanted to say hello from socal, pulled the trigger on a g2 last night to replace my trusty mt3g 1.2
Hoping I made the right choice over the mt4g and for the forseeable future ...free express shipping so ill be around these parts more often...
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You defibetly made the right choice. You'll be glad about the high development support and/or stock android later on.
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Welcome home. ....... from all of us ehre here (oops, my dyslexic tourettes)

Put it this way, the only thing that the mt4g has that the g2 doesnt is a FFC and a crappy version of sense.... I believe the other hardware is the same? (processor etc.) also the g2 has a keyboard, which is always a plus

Much better choice over the mt4g.. unless you wanna take pics of yourself easier.. then I guess you'll miss out on ffc. Not a day goes by I don't miss my mytouch..
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You made the right choice.

what part of Socal you from?

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what part of Socal you from?
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San Fernando Valley Area...You ?

My dad had a MyT4G. He returned it cuz he hated the expressio look about is now waiting first the Nexus s to be released.
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I'm bout to be one I want the MYT4G but I cant use to the look of it

Don't want to thread jack, but I also placed an order for a free g2 yesterday to replace my g1. It should be coming this week. If not, next week for sure.
I had the g2 when it first came out, but afraid that it wasn't going to get fully rooted (droidx), returned it. And now I'm picking it back up.
To me, it's the fastest android phone out right now, and the keyboard is always a plus.
I will miss the form and the keyboard on the g1 though.
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Regreting htc evo shift?

Nobody take me wrong but at times I kinda regret not going with the evo just because its forums are fast moving and really active. like I said none take me wrong because I love my shift its so smooth. I thought all android was like this but I'm proud to say my phone runs android smooth. I thought this phone was going to be a hit like the evo. I'm hoping in general things take off. Anyone having the same feelings about the evo shift?
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Development is going fine, most of the development goes on behind the scenes and there are a lot of non-public builds out there.
Most of the action is in the IRC right now. I'd say about 1/2 of the builds are on the irc only. Some of the best builds are on the irc, or released early with bug fixes in irc. Things have taken off, but it's mostly behind the scenes.
I don't regret getting a shift at all =P

In no way do i regret getting a shift

No regrets here! My girlfriend has the evo so I've played with it since it came out and this was my upgrade from the hero. I love this phone! Lol
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I'm rooted but still running the stock rom. The phone runs smoother than the Evo (especially when running live wall papers) and battery life is much better when the phone is in use. I'm not blown away by the phone like when I first purchased the Evo, but I still think the Shift is a better phone. I thought I would miss the bigger screen of the Evo, but the sharpness of the Shift's screen almost makes up for it.
All I'm waiting for in a custom rom is one that has toggle switches in the pull down notification bar.

My perception of the Shift is that development does move slower than I had hoped/expected. That's just my perception coming from the Hero. (Not slighting those doing the good work.) However, my "regret" comes from personal tastes.
- I don't need a physical keyboard and the added bulk has started to bug me
- The keyboard slider isn't as tight as I feel it should be, and makes the phone feel a little more cheap that I'd prefer.
- Small design elements bother me (Chrome trim and circles, blue...)
The main "regret" feeling now comes from the Nexus S 4G that's rumored to be announced at CTIA. Likely selling the Shift to pick that up if it's released relatively soon.

Shadodragon said:
- The keyboard slider isn't as tight as I feel it should be, and makes the phone feel a little more cheap that I'd prefer.
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Did you remove the plastic from the back? If you did, that's probably why. I left it on and it's pretty tight.

Ahh me too!i wish i would have waited for the nexus from sprint but my heros charger port failed so i had to get something fast.=/ im have faith for the shift development.the hero rom development was amazing!!it made me love the phone.Im just looking forward to what everyone can do with the shift also im hoping in a camcorder mod or something like the nexus one did =] im sure it is possible.im starting to get into cooking some roms and everything but i just havent gotten it all down yet.my shift makes me wanna learn though!alot more than my hero!and the keyboard does feel a bit loose after a while but ive always had that problem with phones with slide out keyboards.i just hope it doesnt mess up like one of my old phone that caused the screen not to be touch able anymore.Dont Regret!give it time!
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My perception of the Shift is that development does move slower than I had hoped/expected. That's just my perception coming from the Hero. (Not slighting those doing the good work.) However, my "regret" comes from personal tastes.
- I don't need a physical keyboard and the added bulk has started to bug me
- The keyboard slider isn't as tight as I feel it should be, and makes the phone feel a little more cheap that I'd prefer.
- Small design elements bother me (Chrome trim and circles, blue...)
The main "regret" feeling now comes from the Nexus S 4G that's rumored to be announced at CTIA. Likely selling the Shift to pick that up if it's released relatively soon.
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It could be that I came from a touch pro 2 and we were spoiled with roms and options for android annd unbuntu. But I am glad I switched to the evo shift as it is smooth I've never had a phone this smooth.
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Jesus, Muhammed, Mary, and Buddha all use the Evo Shift..and they're rooted..loving their phones..that's the reason you should lol
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Development has been slow to start, but the phone is still pretty new. I'm glad I'm here for the beginning of it all personally.
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abanh said:
All I'm waiting for in a custom rom is one that has toggle switches in the pull down notification bar.
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Widgetsoid. Download it. Your wait is over.
I'm very happy with my phone. It's as if HTC remade my Moment awesome.
^ Shift Faced

The Shift is still a young platform, give it time. The EVO has had almost a year head start on the Shift as far as development goes, so it's no surprise that the community would be booming over there.
I too had this same question when it came time to upgrade. As a Hero CDMA user, I enjoyed a fantastic, active community, even for a phone that was based on ARMv6. If a phone of that caliber STILL has a community as vibrant as it is, the Shift is SURE to foster a wonderful kitchen of ROM creation and hacking. We've already got some excellent folks on board (I'm looking @ you NFX!) and more will come as people upgrade their phones.
I much prefer HTC builds to the likes of Samsung. The slide on my Shift is taught and feels solid - I too left the plastic on the back / edges. When the time came to select a phone, I tried everything at T-Mobile and Sprint and the only phone that would have enticed me away from the Shift would have been the G2. That second gen Snapdragon / Adreno 205 rocks my socks. So fast, so smooth.
I love this phone.
(ps. I also did not want a physical keyboard, but I'm falling in love with it, ESPECIALLY when ssh'ing into a box or using the terminal emulator)

Im running mikfroyo on the evo. I just got my girlfriend a shift. Has anyone tried the mikshift beta yet. Ill be rooting her shift in the next few days
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Im running mikfroyo on the evo. I just got my girlfriend a shift. Has anyone tried the mikshift beta yet. Ill be rooting her shift in the next few days
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It's good, but not themed and no mods really. He said he is getting rid of his shift to which makes me sad as I was looking forward to a lot more from him.
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royshero said:
Im running mikfroyo on the evo. I just got my girlfriend a shift. Has anyone tried the mikshift beta yet. Ill be rooting her shift in the next few days
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Its a fast rom..if you head to the and dev you can read all the compliments..also he is ditching the shift but he said he'd still develop for the shift so no issues there..
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Damn. Thats to bad hes the man
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JKILO said:
Its a fast rom..if you head to the and dev you can read all the compliments..also he is ditching the shift but he said he'd still develop for the shift so no issues there..
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Cool
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No regrets here, but I came from a g1 so anything is better than that lol
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sethb0529 said:
No regrets here, but I came from a g1 so anything is better than that lol
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You're crazy...G1 was my best android phone...
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Evo to Evo Shift. I have a few inquiries.

On the difference between the Evo and Evo Shift.
Hello ladies and gentlemen, I am currently on the illustrious HTC Evo 4G, I am looking to make a prospective trade with a gentleman in my area from the trading site, craigslist. Now I have a few questions, first and foremost, have any of you fine people come from the Evo to this tiny beast? If so then what are your sentiments on said phone, the Evo Shift. Second, what does the battery life have in store for myself? Last and certainly not least what is the development of said device surmount to? I may have further question as my transaction draws nearer, until then I take my leave and await your replies with gratitude.
Cordially
Blitzpwnage
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I switched from the evo to the shift. I'm happy with the switch. The phone is faster, and smoother than the Evo. Adjusting to the smaller screen size does take a little bit. I almost miss my evo because of the difference in screen size. Battery life has been about the same. Maybe slightly better, but I'm rooted, and running an overclock kernel, so the min speed is lower than on a standard kernel. Overall, I'd say battery life is a wash. I would gladly switch again.
Development isn't as voracious as the Evo, but you can have CM7, the Kingdom rom, with sense 3.0, and other various kernels, which allow for much greater overclocking than the evo ever had.

+1 on that. My wife has the EVO 4G. I like it, but I prefer my Shift a lot more. Another thing your going to want to do is check the ESN of the Shift your getting. Don't want to get something you can't activate. There are free online ESN check sites.
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I came from the evo to the shift and i would never look back the shift actually fits in your pocket nice its faster than the evo and the battery life if you have the right set up is just amazing and kills the evo

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+1 on that. My wife has the EVO 4G. I like it, but I prefer my Shift a lot more. Another thing your going to want to do is check the ESN of the Shift your getting. Don't want to get something you can't activate. There are free online ESN check sites.
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I'm doing the trade at a sprint store and having the phones switched then.
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Make sure he doesn't install the 2.3 update, or you won't be able to root for who-knows-how-long. I bought one from a guy today who updated right before we met up, so I have to put it right back on eBay or CL if a new root method isn't found soon.

You can try the ginger bread root app... You'll have to google for it. Then hope you'll be able to flash the engineering hboot afterwards.
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Buying an EVO--Seeking Advice

Hey,
I have a samsung epic right now, and I'm interested in buying this evo someone offered to me. I would only be interested, however, if this phone was able to be rooted. How can I check if it is possible or not?
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Art2Fly said:
Hey,
I have a samsung epic right now, and I'm interested in buying this evo someone offered to me. I would only be interested, however, if this phone was able to be rooted. How can I check if it is possible or not?
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If its running android 2.3.3 and when you load into the bootloader it says "s-on" next to the radio version then its not rootable yet.

Thanks man, really appreciate it.
Also, if it wasnt able to be rooted, I read on the news that HTC was going to release a universal unlocker for the newer phones, will they also release one for the EVO?

Art2Fly said:
Thanks man, really appreciate it.
Also, if it wasnt able to be rooted, I read on the news that HTC was going to release a universal unlocker for the newer phones, will they also release one for the EVO?
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The general consensus is that they will not be unlocking older phones so as to encourage consumers to buy the newer ones.
EDIT: There is always of course the possibility that an independent developer will find an exploit and give us the ability to gain root access to our phones. Some devs are known to be working on this now. There's no guarantee of course, but there is hope for those of us who were feeling hopeless.

OK, so the phone has android 2.2, so I automatically assume it can be rooted. Now, can someone recommend me a good rom? I know about cm7 and miui, but what do the devs here have to offer?

Art2Fly said:
OK, so the phone has android 2.2, so I automatically assume it can be rooted. Now, can someone recommend me a good rom? I know about cm7 and miui, but what do the devs here have to offer?
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My wife is using Mikg, and her evo runs awesome. Can't wait to root mine...
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Art2Fly said:
OK, so the phone has android 2.2, so I automatically assume it can be rooted. Now, can someone recommend me a good rom? I know about cm7 and miui, but what do the devs here have to offer?
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I really liked Deck's ROM; lightweight, few issues; great battery life when combined with Tiamat 3.3.7. It's basically CM7 with a lot of the extra clutter (language packs, etc) removed. It looks and acts almost exactly like Android on the Nexus S.
That was my daily driver. I also really liked playing with Synergy; it's feature-packed and has a lot of bells and whistles, and is a fun toy. I didn't like it for daily use, though. I am really into the KISS philosophy when it comes to my smartphone.

And what about kernels? Is there a good choice of kernels to sift through, or for the most part do the roms already come with the best kernel for the job..?

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And what about kernels? Is there a good choice of kernels to sift through, or for the most part do the roms already come with the best kernel for the job..?
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Do alot of reading in the development thread. There is plenty to learn about.
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Alright, I'm doing some thinking on whether to do this or not.. .Should I trade my epic 4g for an evo or not?

Bump
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Art2Fly said:
Alright, I'm doing some thinking on whether to do this or not.. .Should I trade my epic 4g for an evo or not?
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Well that's a question that is dependent on a few things:
Do you prefer physical or virtual keyboards?
Is the loss of a nicer screen worth a bigger screen?
The Epic could be a great phone if it had the developer support that the Evo had/has.
They don't even have an AOSP ROM.

YES, trade, then load synergy rls1, then freedom kernel, for root use unrevoked,
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Yeah, I could get by without a keyboard, but i'm just iffy

Art2Fly said:
Yeah, I could get by without a keyboard, but i'm just iffy
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My personal opinion is that developer support is what makes the phone.
The Epic has a better core for performance and for battery.
If I recall correctly the GPU is better too.
The screen is nicer.
The keyboard sucks [because I hate physical keyboards]
But the developer support, comparative to the Evo, is nil.
Now, there have been signs of an increase in support but with the SGS2 coming it's hard to say how much will come to the Epic itself.

I actually just came from an epic to the evo since mine was stolen (which really sucked I loved that phone) but with the evo I've never looked back. I really liked the physical keyboard since I'm not a fan of soft keyboards but swype and mods alongside a much larger screen make up for it. Speaking of the screen, its no super amoled but its definitely one of the nicest I've used and and the phone overall is just beautiful. Battery is about the same for both in my experience. But like others have said the evo has MUCH better developer support. I remember I was using frozen syndicate Rom 1.2 before my epic was stolen ( back in end of may/ beginning of June) and they still didn't update I believe. Plus Samsung still hasn't released gingerbread for it and its being discontinued October I think. So all in all you should trade for the evo, definitely much better software support especially for a phone reaching its EOL, not to mention hardware (i.e. cases) Plus sense is just great
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Ive had both phones, I had the epic then i traded it for my evo<3 which i love so much. I dont regret trading it at all. Personally, i like the evo more it is greater over all

Leaving my Evo. Parting is such sweet sorrow.

About to leave to go get my Epic 4g Touch using my dads upgrade. ( I'll have mine in a month to get a new LTE phone ) Just wanted to thank everyone that helped me learn about android by answering my stupid questions and for being a wonderful community of people. Gonna miss my Evo alot, but I'll still have it around for random business such as PC remote and whatnot. oh no.... I told myself I wouldn't cry... *sniff sniff* I LOVE YOU GUYSSSSSS

I 2nd this post. Hard to imagine leaving my Evo, even tho it's 21mo old. I doubt any other device I get will stay relevant this long. And the community has been great.
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Yea agreed imma feel sad in November when I use my upgrade its still crazy that the evo is still better than some phones I'll miss it tho
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Its OK, yaw jes keep passin them fine phones down to us cheapos! I plan on enjoyin my EVO till the newer phones are down to a Benjamin. hehe

I switched to the NS4G after my Evo **** the bed, and I still miss it.
The Nexus has been far more reliable and has a slick form factor, but I have large hands and miss the brutish size of the Evo. Not to mention the dev support - with the nexus, you get your choice of AOSP, modded AOSP, or the single Sense 2.1 rom.

can u please elaborate on that pc remote thing?
thanks

that is the biggest reason I rooted my phone. I was getting tired of it and still have about 8 months to my upgrade since Sprint did awway with the yearly upgrade on the primary line. The ability to flash different ROMS has given it a totally different look n feel, improved my battery life and brought about new love for my phone. i have decided im not upgrading now until I can get a 4G LTE device and have 4G service in my area.

Having similar feelings. Will be getting something new very soon. Everything I know about android I learned from my Evo and this community. Pretty awesome.
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that is the biggest reason I rooted my phone. I was getting tired of it and still have about 8 months to my upgrade since Sprint did awway with the yearly upgrade on the primary line. The ability to flash different ROMS has given it a totally different look n feel, improved my battery life and brought about new love for my phone. i have decided im not upgrading now until I can get a 4G LTE device and have 4G service in my area.
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Just wondering if u have tried v6 supercharger yet? It did wonders for my og evo.
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atljatl said:
Just wondering if u have tried v6 supercharger yet? It did wonders for my og evo.
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no. i havent tried v6 yet. im still pretty new to all this. what exactly does v6 supercharger do?

It sets different OOM values. Essentially telling androind when to kill processes if they're bogging down the rest of your system. That is my understanding from reading, if anyone cares to correct, I'd be more than happy.
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It sets different OOM values. Essentially telling androind when to kill processes if they're bogging down the rest of your system. That is my understanding from reading, if anyone cares to correct, I'd be more than happy.
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That's about right. I'm on tapa right now, and I don't have the v6 thread in front of me. Google "v6 supercharger" and the thread pops right up. I highly recommend it. It's not a difficult process either. Great dev with easy install instructions in the op of the thread.
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^Here ya go.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
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I just wanted to chime in to give credit to the DEVs for keeping the EVO bad ass for so long. I got mine the day it came out (almost 2 years ago, which is an ETERNITY for a technology product) and I would still much rather have the EVO than my wife's I-Phone 4S. Every time I get bored with it I find a new ROM and it's like getting a brand new phone for the donation I make.
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I just wanted to chime in to give credit to the DEVs for keeping the EVO bad ass for so long. I got mine the day it came out (almost 2 years ago, which is an ETERNITY for a technology product) and I would still much rather have the EVO than my wife's I-Phone 4S. Every time I get bored with it I find a new ROM and it's like getting a brand new phone for the donation I make.
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yea same here man haha, i dont think ill ever get rid of my evo as long as they keep up the amazing roms

I upgraded to the epic touch but kept my evo and upgraded my 2nd line with it but now my evo seems so slow and compared to the super amoled + screen the lcd looks like straight up dookie :-/
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
I upgraded to the epic touch but kept my evo and upgraded my 2nd line with it but now my evo seems so slow and compared to the super amoled + screen the lcd looks like straight up dookie :-/
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I've noticed a few of your threads after u got ur et4g. It seems u really like it. That's fantastic.
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Man i loved my evo but comparing them is like comparing a ford focus to a ferrari enzo lol this thing flies and has the best batterylife stock of any smartphone ive ever owned after my dad gave me the et4g i actually waited 2 weeks to activate it cuz i didnt wanna give up my evo but after i switched i wasx kicking my own ass for waiting
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I actually read some posts about he et4g on here after seeing your posts about it. Have you experienced any bugs?
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Not yet i havent tried the ics builds yet but they are getting close to an ota there are very few bugs left in the leaks from what everyone is saying, im using the dark ics rom from mijjah and team nocturnal and havent had a single issue yet
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Good bye
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