Well with all the hype going on about custom (and sometimes stock) firmwares. I thought I would start a discussion and Perhaps a poll to see if you are using stock or custom ROMs.
As for my 2 cents: Samsung makes great hardware (at least to my experience) but sinks it down to sleep with the fishies with poor software support including bad very bad software suites (like Kies or Media studio the latter which installed a nasty rootkit on my laptop believe it or not for DRM), prematurely axing support to its newly launched devices (I remember hacking my samsung MP3 with korean firmware as I was really angry at samsung for axing the device 2 months after its release whats up with that ).
So what about you: Do u use custom ROMs or stick to late to almost never released stock ROMs?
Stock rom.
It does what I want. Internet-games-programs. It is fast and good.
I do not see a reason to go with a custom rom.
I use modaco. because its sooooo fast.
Overcome. Hands down the best rom/kernel IMHO.
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okay ... dumb question ... i've just ordered a Tab from T-Mobile, should have it Monday or Tuesday, so ... just what is a custom ROM/Kernal going to do for me?
Thanks,
pat----
Im sticking with stock atm...
As posted above, it does what i want.
Im on Overcome 1.3, undervolted, not overclocked
what it does for you is it removes bloatware, includes fixes to known bugs that samsung has not addressed with a proper firmware update, allows for overclocking and undervolting if you're into that, formats the file system to EXT4 making IO faster, installs a full backup and restore facility from recovery, and provides better battery life*
quadrant score from original firmware: 1000-1200
quadrant score from Overcome 1.3 no overclock: 1690
so yeah, custom IS better than stock until samsung gets all these tweaks into their official ROMs.
(*I don't know how it does that, but it does )
It should be said that in reality the split isn't just between stock and custom, but stock, "unreleased', and custom.
Most of the custom ROMs you can find here are based on Samsung's own unreleased test/dev builds (e.g. MoDaCo is based on JMI, Overcome is based on JMK). Even in their "raw" form, these unreleased ROMs are far better than those that actually ship on the device (BEWARE LOCKED BOOTLOADERS IF YOU ARE THINKING OF FLASHING ONE!!!).
If you take say Rotohammers build, it is stock JMI (JMK now?), without the locked bootloaders and pre-rooted. MoDaCo and Overcome go quite a bit further as they have completely rebuilt kernels and are tweaked for speed. Then you have Technomancers Gingerbread ROM, which is completely custom and based on CM7 rather than an existing Samsung build.
In my opinion, staying on a shipping Tab ROM means you are not getting as much out of your device as you could. Even the Samsung unreleased dev builds are way better than the shipping ROMs, so I don't know why Samsung haven't actually formally released them.
Regards,
Dave
I user overcome 1.4.4
Its much faster than the stock rom and seems to use less battery power in my particular use case.
Custom, as indicated in my signature. I have a T-Mobile Tab and in stock form, it was extremely slow. It sucked.
chicken roms is better ever
For those who say stock is fine i say you have no idea what you are missing. Try both, then make a decision. Custom all the way baby!
T-Mobile tab running latest Overcome
As a bell mobility tab user, i used the stock one (jj3) i think for about a month.
After that i decided to go with roto jme then jmg and after that went to modaco.
Was on modaco for about the last 3 months and i have decided to flash overcome.
There is a significant speed difference between modaco and overcome. I noticed lag in angry birds seasons with modaco but with overcome, barely any.
I am happy with flashing a custom Rom and would never go back to stock.
If only i could get a copy of the stock Rom just in case of any issues.
Hope that helps.
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The hardware is superb but it's let down badly by Samsung in not keeping it up to date with firmwares.
Using Custom roms solves this and provides an all round quality tablet so, yeah, custom roms for me.
I use a stock rom for now, but once my download for Overcome is done, I'll switch to it.
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I use a stock rom for now, but once my download for Overcome is done, I'll switch to it.
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Read the guides before flashing.
I had stock. It was excellent, good multi-language support, excellent hardware support.
Tried MoDaCo. Lost most of language support. Hardware support only for the basic stuff.
Replaced with Overcome. Language support even sketchier. Battery performance awful. Hardware support still only basic stuff.
Tried going back to stock. I could not find the stock firmware that was originally available on the device. All «stock» firmwares in the wild had the same issues as the MoDaCo and Overcome. I was shocked and seriously puzzled!
Went to the repair shop and asked them to flash the device with the original.
- Two days later I was told, that they need some special cable to flash the device, and it's going to take a week to get it from Korea(!).
- One week later I was told, that the device needed motherboard replacement.
- One more week later I got the device.
Now my device has Excellent language support, but still fails to report Neighbouring GSM Cells.
Eventually I installed a Winblows in a VM (Bleh!) to try Kies.
To my greatest surprise after eventually connecting Kies says that my device is 'Not Upgradeable'.
So my adventure with custom firmwares is MOST unfortunate.
My ¢2: new users should NOT replace firmware unless they BADLY need something that SUPPOSEDLY a custom firmware would give.
Lachezarian said:
I had stock. It was excellent, good multi-language support, excellent hardware support.
Tried MoDaCo. Lost most of language support. Hardware support only for the basic stuff.
Replaced with Overcome. Language support even sketchier. Battery performance awful. Hardware support still only basic stuff.
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Can you please elaborate more what do you mean by "hardware support", what would be the difference between "basic stuff" and "excellent"?
AFAIK, the custom ROMS are based on stock ROM, thus I can't understand there will be any difference over hardware support level.
With custom ROMs you are more free!
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Read the guides before flashing.
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I did. I ended up installing Rotohammer's instead, though. It works fine.
Hello XDA,
I recently acquired a Samsung Telus T959D Fascinate and have anxiously waiting for a ICS release.
In order to use ]teamhacksung's ICS Port for Galaxy S (BUILD 9) for my fascinate, I used >>This Thread<< to flash a i9000 kernel to use the ROM.
Now I am confused a bit. I've done some research on XDA and google, but for some reason can't get a straight answer on what to do in order to flash back a regular Samsung Fascinate ROM, such as CM7.1. I want to flash back, but I don't know which kernel to use because I am currently using the i9000 kernel.
I could flash one by Glitch and try CM7.1 from there, but I'm not sure what the voodoo lagfix option is and why it would brick my phone.
If any of you could recommend a kernel to flash to use regular Fascinate ROMs, and a kernel to use for i9000 ROMs, it would be greatly appreciated
Telus fascinate roms are not compatible with verizon fascinates and vice versa. I would use glitch v13 for telus and whatever aosp rom of your choice thats compatible. Search function is your best friend lol.
Hi Everyone first post since owning my i9000 since it came out and have followed xda since then. I would like to thank all the devs for everything they have done for this phone as the amount of improvements we have seen.. have been nothing short of brilliant... many thanks.
I am currently running aokp and it's excellent and also have cwm backups of other Roms on the phone. These are all Mtd Roms.
I have looked all over xda and it seems to me that we could convert the many good gingerbread roms to run in the new MTD partiton without reverting back to odin and wiping the phone only to have to do it all over again if we want try the many good custom and stock gingerbread Roms.
The flexability we would all gain from being able to flash other Roms without reverting back to odin would be great for everybody ... but there isn't a kernel to do this unfortunately.. I know I've looked back to the begining of all of the threads and can't find one ... or make one.
I have researched how these roms could be converted to run in the MTD partition and have a good idea how to pack them to run, I am not a rom chef or a dev so it would be just a re-pack. But the rom chefs would do this themselves if we had a touchwiz-MTD kernel made for this task.
I will not show how you go about re-packing a rom to run cause everyone would
try it without the necessary kernel and probably mess up their phone .. so best not.
Could we have one last missing -link kernel just to square the circle and run a stock samsung gingerbread rom in the MTD Partition... we would the be able to keep these as cwm backups and switch to any rom we like.
One last plea for the end of life galaxy S . . Great Phone
Not a slagging of match about which custom rom is best as devs spend hour's cooking and testing roms for us. Just want people to share what rom they're using and why. It might be useful if we mention the very things that attract us to the various roms. This will help new users to pin point a rom if they prefer the same things. For me what matters apart from anything else is a rom and kernel that is blazing fast and I don't care at all about the battbNot a slagging of match about which custom rom is best. Just want people to share what lollipop custom rom they're using and why. It might be useful if we mention the very things that attract us to the various lollipop roms, for instance am on cataclysmic due to the smart radio mostly which is the main reason am attracted to cataclysmic and code blue kernel, because this combination offers me the best performance. I have previously used franco kernel, but since it hasn't been updated for a while, code blue is the way for me battery. I am still new to s6 edge so cannot share much yet but once I have found a rom and kernel combination that gives me the power and fluidity I require will then share.
Im using the renegade rom because it has some features that my original G925P stock rom doesnt like smart manager. I cant use it on my phone without flashing a rom. And It has funny/cool on/off boot animations.
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What is the best rom to go with that has the modem and gapps included? also one with good tethering/hotspot so I dont gotta be subject to carrier extortion and rape... LOL.
I want something easy to flash and stuff since I am not the best with this sorta thing and money is tight. So can't afford to buy a new phone.
Stock based ROM.
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Which stock based one?
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Which stock based one?
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So many. Just let your brain choose.
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I don't have a lot of time.. That's why I posted here.
Ordering phone on Monday and going on a trip wed.
Wanna have the ROM by then with the least amt. of issues with straight talk.
Stay with the stock rom then. Most custom roms don't have gapps included.
Also, most custom roms require you to have a custom recovery. This requires additional flashing and time.
well I know about that but just some roms don't have modems or other things and I don't wanna have to search manually for stuff that's why I asked here !!
They're recommending stock because of the amount of time you have available to you before your trip. If you seriously want to flash a custom ROM prior to your trip, then you want to flash a Cyanogenmod-based or AOSP ROM. The question is, which version of Android do you want?
If you want Android 5.11, install Optimized CM12.1 + GApps.
If you want Android 6.0, AOSP 6 + GApps. If you want the goodies normally found in a Cyanogenmod-based ROM, then you want Synergy or CrDroid + GApps.
All the ROMs recommended install quickly with TWRP as your recovery. Keep in mind however that every ROM, even stock ROMs, will have bugs. However the bugs in the aforementioned ROMs will not prevent you from using the device. The good news is that unless you use a CDMA device such as a Verizon or Sprint Galaxy S4, you should not have to worry about which modem you have. The same cannot always be said for the Touchwiz ROMs, but even then, unless you have a pre-Android 5 modem you should be OK.
For Touchwiz-based ROMs, look at the ones available from Albe95. Regardless of which one you install, keep in mind that the package is much larger than Cyanogenmod or AOSP, and thus will take longer to install. Albe95 generally recommends the latest modem for your device, so if that is a deal breaker, then go Cyanogenmod/AOSP.
I want 4.4.x or 5.o for some of the betas I'm testing.
Will the ones you recommended have the modem included. I'd hate to have to hunt n peck n trial n error with that.
Custom ROMs do not include modems, period. If a ROM recommends a modem, you'll have to get it from the appropriate thread. I can tell you that AOSP and Cyanogenmod do not require a specific modem. For example, I'm running AOSP 6 on Straight Talk as we speak. I never upgraded the modem from the Android 5.0.1 version I installed seven months prior.
so CM doesn't include it? that sucks. what one do you recommend? and how is that flashed?
As mentioned, no custom ROM includes the modem in its download, because unless the ROM specifies otherwise, you use the one already on the phone. So in the case of Cyanogenmod, there is nothing special to do. Simply install the recovery through Odin, boot into the recovery, and install the ROM.