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Does anyone have an expected release date for this yet? I may be moving from the UK to the US soon so just wondering what to get and where to get it!
HTC insn't going into full scale production untill autumn.
And it's usefullness in the USA wil be somewhat limited.
It only has Tri band GSM so will be incompatible with some networks, also the 3G radio is a different standard in the USA to the Euro 3G - CDMA V W-CDMA I believe, but I'm sure someone will highlight what the acronym is. Thats why no USA networks have expressed any desire to release the Universal - maybe there will be another model bought out for the USA markets...
There will be a USA release eventually. HTC would be stupid to not make a version of the Universal that worked well in the USA.
There's lots of speculation on various message boards that HTC has already created a USA version of the Universal. Supposedly, it's being called "Apache" while it's still in testing.
There are lots of people in the USA using HTC devices right now. I can't imagine HTC deciding not to accept anymore money from those USA customers.
Pretty much everyone with an HTC device (or any other brand of Pocket PC for that matter) will give the Universal serious consideration when it's released. If HTC just ignored them, well that would not be a sound business decision.
Expect a version of the Universal to be released in the USA for use on the new EVDO networks (Sprint and Verizon).
Now Sprint and Verizon may decide not to carry the device, but I fully expect HTC to at least offer it to them.
do sprint and verizon even offer gsm(sim) cards? i bought my jam from dubai when i was over there for summer vacation and now i'm using it with cingular. and if the device is released in the US it would be a while after its released in the UK and rest of the world. If you haven't noticed USA is really behind in the cell phone market.
USA may be behind in the cell phone market, but all of the previous HTC products were released in the USA, so I don't see why the Universal would be any different.
The Wizard will be released in the USA, so why not the Universal? I could definitely see HTC ,aking a version for the USA. And probably making a CDMA version as well.
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Sorry Guys, But Cellphone Networks in USA sux! Your mobile phone carries got the "older model" planns to sell devices. Europe and Asia is at leats 5 years advanced than USA.
Here in Brazil GSM Networks are since 2002 so we got euro carriers with new terminals, 3G is already here.
HTC is preparing a special edition for you guys
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What are you talking about? USA networks may be behind, in general, but both Sprint and Verizon have EVDO networks. That is pretty up to date technology.
HTC may very well be preparing a special version, but I highly doubt Brazil is getting anyting more technically advanced than the USA (from HTC at least)...
HTC sent the same Harrier and Blue Angel to the USA that they sent everywhere else. HTC is also sending the same Wizard to the USA that they sent everywhere else. Why should the Universal be any different?
Well, it might be a little different (hopefully it will be made for CDMA/EVDO).
your carriers are well behind the uk and most of the rest of the world-maybe not 5 years though!the universal will be the same as the jam release wise-asia then europe then the us.just a shame your carriers are so slow that they cannot utilise the new technology the universal bringsand what is with using a different frequency (850) is it just to be awkward?!lol.l have no doubts the universal will be available everywhere including the us
First off, I have to say that the Apache is not a CDMA version of the universal. Rather, it is a CDMA version of the wizard.
Second, yes the USA networks are a little behind the rest of the world. It sucks that we have to wait for new devices months after they have been released to the rest of the world. However, that may be changing. Check out the last couple pages of this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=22813&start=125
It is looking more and more like the new 6700 sprint will be releasing is the Apache. Right now the target release date is sometime from August to October. This would be amazing because it would be (as far as I know) the first 5.0 device released anywhere. It would be released in the US before Europe and Asia, and it would even be release before the wizard was released anywhere.
So maybe the US is catching up. Here's hoping
The USA networks are not lagging behind Europe and Asia. At least not all of them. Again, both Sprint and Verizon have EVDO networks. That is not lagging in any way. EVDO is a 3G technology, and it fully supports all the features on any of todays cell phones (even the Universal). The only thing is the networks are CDMA. But CDMA is not lagging behing the rest of the world either.
Actaully saltydawg, only verizon has EV-DO right now. Sprint won't be lauch there's till the end of the year. We should start seeing EV-DO phones coming out soon though.
As for what I said abou the USA being behind, that was mainly in reference to the delay in getting new phones to the US.
Zach
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Sprint does have EVDO right now man. Currently the only devices that officially support it are laptop data cards. People have got it working on their PPC-6600's as well though.
But yes, we should start seeing lots more EVDO devices released soon...
You have got to be kidding me if you think US networks do not lag behind European networks. By the time we get something new, Europe is already moved on to the next best thing. We are at least 2-3 if not 5-7 years behind.
SaltyDawg,
That makes more sense. I guess they just aren't really promoting that. It's pretty cool that some of the 6600s have got that to work though. There is supposed to be an official sprint update for the 6600 coming out in october I think.
Zach
We can argue all day about whether or not the US lags behind in mobile network technology. Whan I can say is that when US carriers decide to go with a technology, it does take awhile to rollout.
HOWEVER, let's think about this. All of the countries we're being compared to are approx 10% of the size of the US. Individual European countries and their respective carriers have NO IDEA what a rollout in the US takes in terms of material, resources, and most importantly, money. Even the whole of Europe doesn't compare in size to the Continental USA.
Cut us a break, guys...
GSM Technology in the US
well, you can argue all day about this but i would say that the US is way behind but we've been catching up some how ... the three main countries which keep on using CDMA is the US, Japan& Korea ... so if anybody really wants a really good phone for the verizon and sprint networks just look at what's available in japan ... they actually have 8.0Mp camera phones out ... while everybody's working on catching up here in the US ... Verizon is actually owned by VODAFONE that is why verizon was first in coming out with 3G with the help of their cousins across the pond ... which i am wondering why t-mobile doesn't use their connection being t-mobile ... the largest global wireless company (they have service in most of the countries in the industrialized world ... they even have dibs on singtel which is one of the powerful wireless carriers in asia) ...
t-mobile usa and t-mobile uk don't even work together (as per comment by one of the tech support people from t-mobile usa) ... i was trying to set up blackberry connect on my Sony Ericsson P910i which was from T-Mobile UK but our friends from T-Mobile US told me that they can't assist me ... so i ended up doing it myself ... as usual ....
hopefully the US gets hold of more phones, marketing somewhat sucks y'know ... i guess it's all about the blackberry over here in the US .... which, personally has an ugly interface and worse conventional phones which are almost as expensive as Palm, Pocket PC, and Symbian devices ...
Well the bottom line is not all USA networks a lagging way behind Europe and Asia. At least not anymore. Sprint and Verizon both have EVDO. EVDO is a 3G technology. So no way can anyone say Sprint and Verizon are lagging way behind Europe and Asia.
Now the phones they release on those networks may be a different story. But again, that has nothing to do with HTC. HTC releases the same phones in the USA that they release in Europe and Asia. So anyone saying HTC won't release the Universal in the USA is not looking at the recent history. And anyone saying all USA networks are lagging behind Europe and Asia is not looking at the present. Sprint and Verizon, with their EVDO, specifically.
UMTS in the USA
All I can say is soon, as in September/October UMTS will be deployed in 9 major cities in the US. The carrier in question already has a re-branded BlueAngel for sale. Word from marketing is that shortly after UMTS is deployed they will start carrying one of the re-branded HTC Universal devices .
does anyone think it sounds fishy.. if you check on samsung firmware site every other i9000 has froyo update. including african/arabic.. why no north american? I am begining to wonder if it is they know that the newer froyo hastens the bringing to light the defective memory in our phones, and are witholding it for this reason.
The GT-i9000m is a Bell phone, and the firmware will probably be released once Bell tests it and adds their own branding and software.
Its just like down here in AU. Samsung don't release the firmware. Optus will take the firmware, modify it, test it, send it back to Samsung for distribution.
their are more places that don't have 2.2 then that do... so I don't know why you think its fishy...
Agreed, all firmware releases are by the individual carriers who all have their own quality control standards and network testing to conduct. Froyo seems to be progressively being released from East to West so I would expect North American carriers to be amongst the last to officially release. Another thing of consideration is the fact of their being almost all of the Galaxy S variants being carried on Canadian and US carriers.
Sent from my GT-I9000M using XDA App
Other than the software maybe working better with the m modem there will be nothing new or worth having over some of the current cooked roms. Even then, give it a couple weeks and we will use a cooked rom with that modem and all will be just fantastic. Dont see any reason right now to get worked up over froyo delivery schedules.
Sent from a Bell I9000m running Froyo.
Non for us!!
I live in New Zealand and have a unlocked unbranded i9000 and we have no update. I called samsung and according to the guy they havent worked out how to distribute it/there having trouble rolling it out. Dam it i want it so bad!!!!
Hi there,
I am interested in the A501 as I need a 3G connection. I wrote to the Acer Support in Germany and they just said that the release was put back but they make a secret out of a possible release date.
So, I am really angry and thinking about buying another device. However, before I do that, I wanted to know if you guys have some more information about when it will be available in Germany or Europe or even somewhere else in the world.
Thank you!
I live in New Zealand and I just bought one yesterday. So it's available here.
Samsung Galaxy S I9000T
(Telecom NZ)
you can buy an Acer A501 in France it's available since almosts 4 weeks... I assume there are no compatibility problem between French and German release
It's already available at amazon germany.
Hi,
I'm interested in buying a A3 (2017) phone.
The model sold in my country (France and rest of Europe) is the a320f, however I may go to Canada next year and I want a device compatible with LTE bands from Europe and Canada. The model a320y sold in Asia and Australia is the same as a320f, except it supports a few more bands (not less), including the ones I need for Canada.
Did one of you manage to buy a different model from a shop? Do you think some shops will be able to ask Samsung to send them a different model? Otherwise, did one of you succeed in importing from other region, for not too expensive, and where did you buy it? I would like to think of importing as a last solution since there will be double tax + shipping costs…
Thanks in advance,
Galaxy A320Y 2017 dual sim
Dear Yurien
This model would be availiable in Chicago USA by the end of February, I am waiting for it as well. Here is the address for you welectronics.com
Good luck to you
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This model would be availiable in Chicago USA by the end of February, I am waiting for it as well. Here is the address for you welectronics.com
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Unfortunately, this website only ships within the USA.
Plus, 400 USD + shipping + border taxes is high, considering it costs 330€ in France
Is there any place to buy the A320Y? When I contacted them, welectronics said they are selling the A320F. Only markets I have come across selling A320Y so far are Chile, Mexico, Indonesia, Thailand and New Zealand. I haven't found a source to get one in the US though. I really wanted this phone for its size but if I am not able to get the A320Y I may just go for the S7 after the S8 is released.
*Also don´t forget that sometimes the Data Bands change depending in the carrier!*
A320YD
Hi to All,
I too am trying to get the famous A320Y model. It is obviously better, not only in Canada but in France too because one of the major operators, Free, is developing the LTE 4G band 28(700) which is not on the A320F models.
I contacted Samsung in France and they simply said that only the A320F is available in France and that it would not be possible to get the A320Y.
I have seen some A320Y models on sale in NZ but not in Australia. They seem to be available in Vietnam but I don't speak Vietnamese and I suspect it would be difficult to buy them without some knowledge.
The 320Y I saw on NZ sites was not the dual sim model that I want.
Any more information on this would be most welcome.
Thanks in advance!
What really is the difference between "International" and "Latin America" variants?
Same phone - G975F D/S.
Latin America is for, well - Latin America.
"International" version can be EMEA, Middle East, etc.
So pretty much 3-4 different world markets and the only two differences, from what I can see, is:
1. Where warranty is given (which countries)
2. How often and quick f/w updates are being pushed by Samsung.
A "seller" from NY (top notch reputation seller. No, it's not the eBay guy, it is a major electronic store) sells a Latin America variant and also an "international" version. There is no indication on the box which is which, so if you order an International phone it can be middle east, can be EMEA, etc. The phones are 100% genuine. As I said - top notch seller that has been in business for decades.
Am I correct, or am I missing something?
Thank you.
I think there is only one international model. The Hong Kong, China, Japan and Korean models are separate variants--not international models. On the other hand, the Latin American model seems to be exactly the same as the International Model with the exact same band support and specs. The Latin American model is basically the International Model specifically packaged for sale in Latin America.
As for updates I'm not sure what policy Samsung follows. Some people seem to think the international model receives updates based on region and claim to have gotten updates more quickly by using a VPN.
I've never read anything to indicate that the Latin American model doesn't receive the same updates as the International Model so it probably doesn't matter which one you purchase.
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I think there is only one international model. The Hong Kong, China, Japan and Korean models are separate variants--not international models. On the other hand, the Latin American model seems to be exactly the same as the International Model with the exact same band support and specs. The Latin American model is basically the International Model specifically packaged for sale in Latin America.
As for updates I'm not sure what policy Samsung follows. Some people seem to think the international model receives updates based on region and claim to have gotten updates more quickly by using a VPN.
I've never read anything to indicate that the Latin American model doesn't receive the same updates as the International Model so it probably doesn't matter which one you purchase.
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I believe that there are different "international" versions.
The seller I am referring to is B&H, by all means a top tier reputable seller.
They offer an International version and a Latin America version.
The Latin America one comes with literature in English and Spanish and the warranty card lists several central America countries where you can obtain warranty service.
The International version - at least the one they currently have - has Arabic printed on the box (in addition to English of course), and the literature inside is both English and Arabic. This version's warranty card lists middle east and African countries where service is provided. This phone also comes with a Type G power adapter which is used in the UK, as well as some middle eastern countries, Singapore and others.
I don't have have first hand knowledge but I am willing to bet money that phones sold in Europe for example have European countries listed in their warranty cards.
Again - both phones are G975F D/S.
So the logical conclusion is that there are several international versions of this phone which are probably similar to what you stated above (packaged to sell in a specific part of the world).
In regards to the updates - I didn't mean some don't get updates but rather how often/frequent and how soon. For example, TPA (Panama) received ASIG update on Sep. 24 and then ASJD on Oct. 29, whereas European phones (BTU, DBT, AUT, for example) received ASII in between and they are already on ASJG.