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[Q] FroydVillain or CronosFroyo?

I've currently settled down with CronosDroid 2.13 the last few weeks and it's been ok. A little unstable at times (OC to 670ish MHz) and keep having to kill tasks all the time but it's not bad I suppose.
I wanted to try Froyo out and was looking at FroydVillain and Cronos Froyo.
I will try them both myself, but I was wonder what you guys think of FroydVillain 1.4 vs Cronos Froyo 1.02?
Any particular positive or negatives?

Froyd over Cronos
Positives:
Active Development
Dedicated Support
Probably as simple as that really.

Just try Cronos once, then you will come to know !

dreaswar said:
Just try Cronos once, then you will come to know !
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and what exactly is he meant to do when (and it is definitely a when) something goes wrong?
I love you're argument - it is so based in faith that it is a superfluous statement. You haven't provided a single reason for the OP to use the rom aside from your own arrogance. Please provide something useful to the discussion or don't bother to post. (Edit: sorry to bash you but there are so many cronos users who have no idea what they are talking about and have never even tried another rom)
I would love to hear some genuine reasons for using Cronos (from users who have tried both, like myself) because I actually respected it as a rom, but I do believe with the most recent release of Froyo that the unsupported Cronos release is obsolete.

btdag said:
and what exactly is he meant to do when (and it is definitely a when) something goes wrong?
I love you're argument - it is so based in faith that it is a superfluous statement. You haven't provided a single reason for the OP to use the rom aside from your own arrogance. Please provide something useful to the discussion or don't bother to post. (Edit: sorry to bash you but there are so many cronos users who have no idea what they are talking about and have never even tried another rom)
I would love to hear some genuine reasons for using Cronos (from users who have tried both, like myself) because I actually respected it as a rom, but I do believe with the most recent release of Froyo that the unsupported Cronos release is obsolete.
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OK OK OK I will accept Froyd was, is and will be ever superior Rom
Sorry to hurt you mate
For your information, I have tried all 4 Froyo Roms (available at present)

btdag said:
Froyd over Cronos
Positives:
Active Development
Dedicated Support
Probably as simple as that really.
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+1 FroydVillain

I think both are being actively developed and have dedicated support. The thing is all the roms are getting so good now that it really comes down to personal choice. Try both and see which one you like would be my advice.

Neo Cortex said:
I think both are being actively developed and have dedicated support. The thing is all the roms are getting so good now that it really comes down to personal choice. Try both and see which one you like would be my advice.
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What guys are you saying : Cronos = Hate, what's that ?
Try the 2 Roms and you will have your personal idea.
(Cronos have their site for support and it's very active)

O interesting news that the Cronos project is back. Just be careful as the developer hasn't released his source code (which is against the GPL agreement which the Android platform is a part of, and his linux code isn't available either - once again illegal...). But lets not get into that again.
If Feeyo is providing support on his site I would keep all discussion there as you won't find much favour for the project on XDA at the moment
Edit: I take that back, just seen info about his sources - will see how things work out, maybe Feeyo will come back to XDA in the future and things can move on
This new all makes my first post mostly superfluous now too. My advise is now to try them all (froyo builds) and see which one suits you the most.

Well I've had FroydVillain 1.4 installed all day.
Trying to get used to Launcher Pro... Its cool, but just different. The dock makes a lot of other short cuts obsolete! Maybe thats why it comes with 3 homes screens as default... no way you need 7 with that dock.
What a shame there aren't more icons for it.
I'll let you guys know what I think after a few days time.
Thanks for your input!

Boogwee try here:
http://launcherpro.droidicon.com/

try both and pick. i used cronos for longer as froyd seems to have constant fix-patches which may be good but seems bad.
that said, i'd recommend elelinux.

btdag said:
O interesting news that the Cronos project is back.
It came back the day after he took it down.
Edit: I take that back, just seen info about his sources - will see how things work out, maybe Feeyo will come back to XDA in the future and things can move on
Doubt that. Personal opinion no real reason.
This new all makes my first post mostly superfluous now too. My advise is now to try them all (froyo builds) and see which one suits you the most.
I agree which ROM is better has alot to do which what you like I personally like Cronos better but before there was Cronos I tried the Villain stuff but I PERSONALLY never really cared for their ROMs they always lagged with me but I haven't tried any of their newer ones so the problems I experienced are probably solved.
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10char.....

I have only ever used the Cronos ones.
I thought about trying a villain rom once, but i don't like the way the devs waffle on like the wideboys of XDA, so i never tried it.
Before Froyo, i only ever used the SenseHero 5.1 roms, which after some previous searching, gave me links and messages from the VR team *****ing about Stickman,

Well I stuck with Cronos for a few weeks but the last update 2.14 slowed it waaaay down do instead of going back to 2.13 I thought I would try the new FroydVillain 1.5 and I have to say it's pretty awesome! SUPER fast.
I'm even getting used to Launcher Pro instead of sense..
Thanks for the link spamianspoon, that's an awesome site..

Hi guys,
my 2 cents:
I used Feeyos Rom from the beginning, cause for my felling they were the fastest.
Since Froyo is out, i tried both, Cronos and Froyd. Till release.. i thin it was 1.0.3 or something, i was not really happy with Cronos. So i tried Froyd, which was bette at this time, but not perfect. It's just a feeling that things in the Froyd Rom take a ( really just) little bit longer.
Since Cronos 1.1.0 my opinion is clear: Go and take Feeyos Rom. It's just as fast as no Rom before at my Hero. Everything is fast and responsive.
Ah but i know one thing i miss in the Cronos Roms: MORE THEMES If you want to have very much nice looking themes you should try Villain.
But since Computerfreak ported his theme to Cronos i'm happy again I think they will be more Themes in the future.
So my opinion: Cronos Froyo
Cheers

Froyd 1.5 would have to be the fastest rom. But then again I've never tried Chronos.

Gotta say ive found Cronos Froyo to be the fastest without lag.
Hopefully MrBang will release a froyo rom, as his 1.5 was the fastest rom ive used.

did someone try the cronos 1.1.1 and froyd 1.5?
bb.

apesgrapes said:
try both and pick. i used cronos for longer as froyd seems to have constant fix-patches which may be good but seems bad.
that said, i'd recommend elelinux.
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I prefer elelinux also
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[DEV DISCUSSION/Explanation] MIUI

The reason I am writing this thread is because of this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=883222
The OP raised his concern regarding Cyanogenmod not being the biggest concerns for the Dev's. But I honestly think that during the times of CM6 the Dev's could have played a bigger role of bringing it to our Vibrant. I know Eugene tried to do something with it, but i think the release of Gingerbread 2.3 made his work not worthwhile because it was based on 2.2.I am aware that CM7 is in"heavy development cycle" due to Gingerbread 2.3, and most likely will be coming to our Vibrant. With that being said, I feel it is necessary because since we were not able to get CM6 to our phones then why not go for MIUI.
Honestly it is one of the greatest ROMS out there and sometimes i feel that our Vibrant should be getting some more love.Keep in mind that I am in no way bashing TW/Eugene or any other Dev's. Their work is nothing short of quality since I have been a very heavy user of both the Nero and Macnut Series. But I am sure that most people wouldn't mind having MIUI on their phones since its the best of both worlds. (Iphone/Android) Also, I wouldn't know the full process porting such a ROM because it is not an easy task and I am in no way a developer. Maybe it is being worked on with a 2.3 Base? Idk? I am just seeking for answers as I am sure most of other people are as well. I really hope that MIUI really comes to our phone and it becomes one of those projects where many Dev's were in the process to port the SenseUI (back in the day). Just trying to make our community better.
For Those who are unaware of MIUI ROM, here's a demo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0U8ISI8YXM
Flame me, Hate me, w.e.. I just think its a debatable subject.
Ty.

What is this? A new trend?

hopefullu for the good.

Here is why, in my opinion.
If 25% of the masses want cm or miui, 25% want 2.2.1, and the rest want 2.3 - 2.3 it will be.
I like miui, I even had a barely working version of it for a little while. But, the guys who use my releases know what they want, those who use TW want their roms bionic, etc for master, eugene et al.
Nowdays, with leaks once a week, I think it will be tough to get a dev to drop everything else and start a port like miui.
But, if I could do it, I would, I think.

jellette said:
Here is why, in my opinion.
If 25% of the masses want cm or miui, 25% want 2.2.1, and the rest want 2.3 - 2.3 it will be.
I like miui, I even had a barely working version of it for a little while. But, the guys who use my releases know what they want, those who use TW want their roms bionic, etc for master, eugene et al.
Nowdays, with leaks once a week, I think it will be tough to get a dev to drop everything else and start a port like miui.
But, if I could do it, I would, I think.
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Wow, that was the exact answer I was looking for. Like I mentioned before I am no Dev and you being here longer than me and more experienced I will take yourword for it. Your also right about these leaks coming very fast. Hopefully after a full port of 2.3 is done maybe just maybe we can get MIUI.
Thx Alot.

Yeah I Was Gonna Start Working On MIUI But I Need A Cyanogen Source, There Isn't One So I Kinda Hit A Wall
Maybe If Jellette Can Send Me What He Started I Can Just Port MIUI

Erickomen27 said:
Yeah I Was Gonna Start Working On MIUI But I Need A Cyanogen Source, There Isn't One So I Kinda Hit A Wall
Maybe If Jellette Can Send Me What He Started I Can Just Port MIUI
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There are some serious problems with it but I think it is still on my computer, I'll let you know
Later.

Its Cool If Theres Some Problems, All I Need Is A Starting Point And I'd Be Able To Go From There

Does any other dev have a working cyanogen source??
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What's MIUI?
Couldn't figure out what MIUI is from this post or the one linked in the OP.

Its A Chineese Rom
Its Basically The Best Rom Ever
I Have It On My Droid Incredible Its Super Quick And Looks Like Iphone Kinda

os2baba said:
Couldn't figure out what MIUI is from this post or the one linked in the OP.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0U8ISI8YXM
Demo of the ROM.

[Q] best rom

in this thread i want to read your views and suggestions about the best rom wich is for our beloved atrix.
waiting...?

I've just been using the stock AT&T Gingerbread Rom with LauncherPro installed. It makes navigating the homescreens and app drawer a much better (and smoother) experience. I'd like to try CM7 sometime but won't bother until its out of beta and Webtop is supported.
To answer your question, I've heard both Alien and Aura are good, but I haven't tried them personally.

It's better that using roms originated from stock if you are not friendly with custom roms.
CM7 is light & fast but it makes problem sometimes.

demolatorul said:
in this thread i want to read your views and suggestions about the best rom wich is for our beloved atrix.
waiting...?
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try them all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! see what one is best for you

Best Gingerbread ROMs: Darkside and Aura (not updated as much as Darkside)
Don't use Alien anymore.
RedPill is my favorite ROM though. If you don't need webtop then use RedPill. It's much better than CM7. Smoother, ICS transitions, certain tweaks that just make it plain better.

kshiuan said:
Best Gingerbread ROMs: Darkside and Aura (not updated as much as Darkside)
Don't use Alien anymore.
RedPill is my favorite ROM though. If you don't need webtop then use RedPill. It's much better than CM7. Smoother, ICS transitions, certain tweaks that just make it plain better.
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Not sure why you'd tell people not to use Alien...its one of the best ROMS available for our device. Is it older than a lot of the newer roms? Yes. But I've tried every rom available for this device, and keep going back to Alien. Why? Cause its still fast, does exactly what I need it to do, and the most important factor? Its STABLE. It just plain works. Until ICS or MIUI are ported over this will remain one or the best roms out there.
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Not to hijack this thread, but I am also looking for a better-than-stock ROM that still supports webtop and the other docking modes...The OP didn't say whether or not he wanted/needed that.
I've been looking through the descriptions of the various ROMs, and nothing has grabbed my attenion, except maybe CherryPi.

i am using an international Atrix and tried all of them (except ninja) and i have to say that my favourite is Homebase with honeyatrix theme. Its the fastest rom on my phone propably faster than cm7 and supports both fingerprint scanner and webtop.

it was a simle question just to see your opinions and to find out wich is the most popular rom for the atrix

Some one opened a thread like this before and it was closed down by Ken saying XDA doesn't allow "what's best" threads I would check the rules carefully and if you want to compare ROM just read the OP of each ROM and do the comparing yourself. Im Not trying to be rude or mean just trying to look out for our community. And im sure the way I put it was alot nicer than some of the people on here would of(The stuff I read on this forum wow...)
CM7 Newest Weekly faux123 1.45ghz, thanks AtriXDA Developers!!

^^Agreed^^ What is best for one is not best for all, threads like this have been closed in the past. If you want opinions on ROMS try maybe reading their threads.

WiredPirate said:
^^Agreed^^ What is best for one is not best for all, threads like this have been closed in the past. If you want opinions on ROMS try maybe reading their threads.
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+ 1 every forum I've been in "best rom" threads are not allowed!
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cjrhoades said:
I've just been using the stock AT&T Gingerbread Rom with LauncherPro installed. It makes navigating the homescreens and app drawer a much better (and smoother) experience. I'd like to try CM7 sometime but won't bother until its out of beta and Webtop is supported.
To answer your question, I've heard both Alien and Aura are good, but I haven't tried them personally.
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CM7 has been out of beta for quite some time now....
As for the OPs original question... the 'best' ROM is whatever you like the most... everyone has their own favorites. No single ROM can be labelled as the 'best'. They all have their own pros and cons, your best bet is to just unlock your bootloader, root, and experiment for yourself.

kshiuan said:
Best Gingerbread ROMs: Darkside and Aura (not updated as much as Darkside)
Don't use Alien anymore.
RedPill is my favorite ROM though. If you don't need webtop then use RedPill. It's much better than CM7. Smoother, ICS transitions, certain tweaks that just make it plain better.
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just fyi, I know you're new around here, but Darkside IS Aura rom. If development on Aura has slowed so has Darkside. The only difference is theme updates. Please check the changelogs before guessing in the future.

NetTheter said:
just fyi, I know you're new around here, but Darkside IS Aura rom. If development on Aura has slowed so has Darkside. The only difference is theme updates. Please check the changelogs before guessing in the future.
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3rd post, WINNING.

WiredPirate said:
3rd post, WINNING.
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unless you disagree prove me wrong. changelogs are posted for a reason. CM7 is a completely different rom, so are ASOP roms, but ALIEN, AURA, DARKSIDE, are all form the motoblur series, with the difference in DARKSIDE, starting directly off of AURA's shoulders.
v2.1
Fixed: Account FCs
Fixed: Talk on 3G (I think)
Updated: Aura 1.2.1.3 Scripts
Updated: hosts (Ad-Blocking)
Updated: Gmail, Market, SuperUser
Added/Restored: DLNA, Blur Account Authenticators, Task Manager, Files, BlurSetup, Music 4.0.1, Videos, News & Weather
Themed: BlurCamera, Settings
Updated: Camera thumbnail now calls 3D Gallery (Thanks to bullghost)
Removed: HDMI from Settings until a fix is found
Tweaked: SystemUI, LatinIME, Others
v2.0
EXT4 Formatting
Re-based on Aura 1.2.1.1 By Diviance.
App Install Location Option Added
Theme Tweaks
Many Useless Apps Removed
Updated to Faux123 v2.0 Kernel (1.3Ghz)
Other Things I Forgot
*****TRIMMED
edit: compare AURA's full feature list to DARKSIDE's. CM7 on the other hand is actually a completely separate rom.

NetTheter said:
unless you disagree prove me wrong.
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^^thats^^ all I read out of your post. I have no desire to start splitting hairs over ROMs. I dont think its a stretch to say for that NetTheter's third post he is on point. Just saying.

WiredPirate said:
^^thats^^ all I read out of your post. I have no desire to start splitting hairs over ROMs. I dont think its a stretch to say for that NetTheter's third post he is on point. Just saying.
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haha thanks, I just wanted to remove FUD that's thrown around in the forums here. It seems our general audience here requires the color red on a theme to start calling the entire rom fantastic and pushing other roms below.

I am not here for the pissing match.
ALL Android Roms are based on AOSP.
AOSP is the source that all Android Roms are built from.
CM7 is based on AOSP.
CM7 = AOSP + CM7 parts and tweaks minus the manufacturer and carrier bloat.
Motorolas 4.591 blur roms are also based on AOSP
Alien\Darkside\etc = alot of work
All of the Blur Roms are built on Moto ATT 4.5.91 with blur.
These dev's have tweaked 4.5.91 removing blur and adding aosp apk's and framework hacks to deblur the blur roms. also alot of other tweaks.
All of the BLUR/AOSP/CM7 Rom devs in the Atrix Dev Threads deserve a lot of big thanks on their threads. They have listened to all of the requests and demands and built just want you wanted. I do not know how many hours I have spent in logcat
Please read each of the Rom features and Donate to the Atrix Rom Dev's that provided "the rom you like the most" ..... please buy them a few beers.

joe ferreira said:
I am not here for the pissing match.
ALL Android Roms are based on AOSP.
AOSP is the source that all Android Roms are built from.
CM7 is based on AOSP.
CM7 = AOSP + CM7 parts and tweaks minus the manufacturer and carrier bloat.
Motorolas 4.591 blur roms are also based on AOSP
Alien\Darkside\etc = alot of work
All of the Blur Roms are built on Moto ATT 4.5.91 with blur.
These dev's have tweaked 4.5.91 removing blur and adding aosp apk's and framework hacks to deblur the blur roms. also alot of other tweaks.
All of the BLUR/AOSP/CM7 Rom devs in the Atrix Dev Threads deserve a lot of big thanks on their threads. They have listened to all of the requests and demands and built just want you wanted. I do not know how many hours I have spent in logcat
Please read each of the Rom features and Donate to the Atrix Rom Dev's that provided "the rom you like the most" ..... please buy them a few beers.
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try not to take things so literaly. You'll get further in life. AOSP as in pure.
OFC ALL ROMS ARE BASED ON AOSP. however blurred/sensed/wized roms are the vanilla rom with malware, garbage running on top. Bull**** that you can live out and honestly your phone performance just suffers from the "extra's".
However other than some minor tweaks in AURA/ALIEN they are AOSP + BLUR + MODS.
Oh and DARKSIDE is AKA AURA + RED THEME, plus anything else he can scrape from the forums. As I read in other threads, he's not a developer but a "blender". Dev's are one that bring innovation to the scene and not simply copying and pasting mods all into one clay ball.

CM7 & MIUI, whats the hype?

Am I totally missing something with these 2 roms? They seemed to be all the rage and everyone's is so happy we have them, but I don't see what's so great. Both threads for these list numerous bugs and issues. The CM7 has a nightly update for god's sake! If it needs nightly updates it sounds like it doesn't work all that great. And MIUI looks like an iphone.
I'm not trying to start a riot in here either lol. I just don't see what the hype is for.

I would suggest trying them for yourself before knocking them To answer your question in a short manner. The answer is options. You have numerous options and tweaks on both roms that you won't find anywhere else. CM blazes through everything for the most part. MIUI, I hear that iphone excuse all the time. With all the mtz files there are you can make it look like anything you want to. Mix n match like no other rom. Look at the threads started by me and you will see one called "One Stop Shop" with some good info on MIUI.
---Jay---

goblue30093 said:
Am I totally missing something with these 2 roms? They seemed to be all the rage and everyone's is so happy we have them, but I don't see what's so great. Both threads for these list numerous bugs and issues. The CM7 has a nightly update for god's sake! If it needs nightly updates it sounds like it doesn't work all that great. And MIUI looks like an iphone.
I'm not trying to start a riot in here either lol. I just don't see what the hype is for.
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Whoops. You got a free thanks
Anyways, if u want a shorter answer instead of reading thru these 2 paragraphs, either read Jay's response above, and/or drop to the last paragraph in my response.
Now, let's begin with CM7. We are an officially supported CM7 device, but we still do not have a close to 100% RC yet. There are still some very small quirks that need work, hence, nightlies. All nightlies are, are EXPERIMENTAL builds that contain the most recent advancements. They may or may not be as stable as an RC, which means they can both include fixes, and bugs. The reason for the hype if because its an AOSP ROM. Some ppl aren't very fond of Samsung's TW UI and would rather run on AOSP. The other side to that is updates. We were "lucky" to receive official GB, but we probably won't be "lucky" with ICS, which its safe to say, we will eventually be receiving thanks to CM and our CM Team.
As for MIUI, its based off of CM. This ROM is better known for a greater "customizable" experience. With MIUI you get a similar AOSP experience except with more themes. With MIUI you are able to choose a specific theme for SMS, another theme for the dialer, and another for contacts, etc. So you can basically mix n match themes here n there. The things with MIUI is that it kinda "piggybacks" on CM's proggress, so updates will come a bit after our CM ROMs/Kernels are updated.
****Bottom line: CM7 & MIUI offer a minimilistic AOSP experience, including support, which may or may not include updates that could extend your phones lifespan****
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The nightly updates are feature updates.
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Ceelos09 said:
****Bottom line: CM7 & MIUI offer a minimilistic AOSP experience, including support, which may or may not include updates that could extend your phones lifespan****
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You just earned a thanks
---Jay---

I wasn't knocking them, just didn't see the overwhelming hype. Thanks for the info though. I do love an AOSP rom and use them often. at the moment I am running the clean GB which is sort of aosp. I didn't know about the MIUI themes, that might be interesting if i can get away from the iphone feel.
I am looking forward to the CM9 ICS rom.. now THAT i will be excited about lol.
thanks for the info everyone.

goblue30093 said:
Am I totally missing something with these 2 roms? They seemed to be all the rage and everyone's is so happy we have them, but I don't see what's so great. Both threads for these list numerous bugs and issues. The CM7 has a nightly update for god's sake! If it needs nightly updates it sounds like it doesn't work all that great. And MIUI looks like an iphone.
I'm not trying to start a riot in here either lol. I just don't see what the hype is for.
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The nightly updates are a feature, not a bug, CyanogenMod is supported by at least 20 different devices, with heavy development on just the base code too, when something for our device, or something in the base code is updated, it is immediately released every night so that everyone is completely current with the latest features and bugfixes
My personal favorite enhancements that were brought with CM7 are Themes that change immediately (No restarts needed, or a visit to clockwork), hundreds of themes available at a moments download from the market (or xda and other places), DSP sound enhancement, moving the status bar to the bottom of the screen (really handy, right by the buttons), performance-wise it is top notch (besides a few bugs that don't really effect me), gestures on the lockscreen (write a G and BAM gmail), Swipe to remove notifications, and I could go on...
Point is, Touchwiz can lick my ***, it offers nothing to me that isn't done better in CM7...
Never used MIUI before, so I dunno about that one...

goblue30093 said:
I wasn't knocking them, just didn't see the overwhelming hype. Thanks for the info though. I do love an AOSP rom and use them often. at the moment I am running the clean GB which is sort of aosp. I didn't know about the MIUI themes, that might be interesting if i can get away from the iphone feel.
I am looking forward to the CM9 ICS rom.. now THAT i will be excited about lol.
thanks for the info everyone.
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I'm looking forward to MIUI4 You can always run adw, go, etc., over miui if you want. There is also an app called "altdrawer" that I have linked, if you want to keep all the miui mtz icons and launcher.
---Jay---

I wouldn't use MIUI for the Epic4g (Even though MIUI itself is great) due to bugs.
However, CM7 and eventually CM9 are something I'd highly recommend on any device supported.
Do some research, use Google. Cyanogen Mod has a website itself full of information.

Both represent things that Samsung and Sprint consider not possible with this device.
CM giving you the pure Google experience minus all the Touch Wiz/carrier/Sammy bloat.
MIUI which was/is a very popular ROM across quite a few platforms showing yet another stripped down, minimal experience.
As far as nightlies go... That is progress in the works. Things get implemented, tested by users and then tweaked/fixed/eliminated as the product progresses forward.
I think the best thing ever is CM9 coming to the Epic 4g. This shows that Sammy and Sprint are full of it when it comes to ICS-Android 4.0 on this device. CM team deserves a huge pat on the back for making this happen.

Ceelos09 said:
As for MIUI, its based off of CM. This ROM is better known for a greater "customizable" experience. With MIUI you get a similar AOSP experience except with more themes. With MIUI you are able to choose a specific theme for SMS, another theme for the dialer, and another for contacts, etc. So you can basically mix n match themes here n there. The things with MIUI is that it kinda "piggybacks" on CM's proggress, so updates will come a bit after our CM ROMs/Kernels are updated.
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Thanks for that write up. I got CM, but didnt get MIUI. I was thinking it was a CM clone that lagged behind CM in updates, and was made to look like an iPhone.
Your explanation clears up my confusion rather nicely!

I have ran the last 15 cm7 nightlies and they are pretty solid other than a few volume issues I haven't had problems. I am currently trying out miui and it's nice. Packed full of options and everything is working well for me. Miui can be made to look any way u want. I have a gs2 lock screen, some ics theming, s2 boot animation. GPS got a 2 meter lock first try...no complaints

The reason for all of the bug reports is because they're in development threads - we'd be preaching to the choir if we always reported on the benefits (the developers know those things, that's why they took up the porting project). It doesn't mean that the rom sucks, not by any means
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Definitely doesn't suck. To the op...make a backup and try out some stuff. Clean gb is not aosp some tw still there. I oddly like tw bit having variety has brought life back into the epic. I was sure it would be a dead phone until recently when I found out cm and miui became available. Whether people like it or not...once these developers came aboard it helps the entire development process.

Best argument for CM7, as someone already mentioned, is the nightly updates. Remember how long it took to get Froyo? It was due to Sprint/Samsung adding their bloat. Cyanogenmod eliminates those 2 middle men. Thank you devs.
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I was exactlyyyyyyy like youuu
Until I flashed cm7 and seen how amazing it really is
I still do think about other tw roms tho cuz every rom is unique and amazing in its own way
But cm7 it really great you could literally do anything u want there's settings for everythingg and themes in the market is amazing
And I never tried miui but as soon as it gets 4g ill b one of the first ppl to flash it lol
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I wont whore up this thread but my gripe w cm7 currently is the camera and the volume bug. Its tolerable but damn the camera takes a while to open compared to tw and the volume bug, since I use speaker phone a lot is rather annoying. Still fantastic work. Almost there and its so close. It weird how the volume bug only attacks calls. Media volume control is perfect. But whatever, they will get it. Had this phone since launch day and been Modding it since then lol. This is the best time for the epic now that so many options are available

As a couple others have stated, my only gripe with CM7 is the volume issue on phone calls. If that ever gets squashed, it's damn near perfect for me. My phone runs so much smoother and faster on CM, and the amount of options available to customize your phone (profiles, themes, quiet hours, interface tweaks, etc) makes it even more worth it. I was a CleanGB user for a long time until recently as it is my favorite TW based ROM out there until it ceased being so "clean" with all the continued added stuff so I made the jump to at least try CM (especially since Toad made an MTD version of CleanGB to ease flashing back and forth) and haven't looked back.

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Am I totally missing something with these 2 roms? They seemed to be all the rage and everyone's is so happy we have them, but I don't see what's so great. Both threads for these list numerous bugs and issues. The CM7 has a nightly update for god's sake! If it needs nightly updates it sounds like it doesn't work all that great. And MIUI looks like an iphone.
I'm not trying to start a riot in here either lol. I just don't see what the hype is for.
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There's so many nightlies because of new features being added, new improvements if you want something stable but miss all the goodies then stick with a stock rom. Simple as that man. MIUI I do agree is iPhonish but does have android implemented but I don't care for it good to those who have it but that's my opinion. And CM7 is a great AOSP rom no will ever be able to beat it
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Cm7 is great with all the added features and the fact that installing a new theme is one market search away, but its not the end all be all of all roms imo! I do like it but I like all of the ei22 tw roms also... my favorite is the viper rom (for now) and imo it is better than cm7... great battery life and super snappy... I haven't tried cm7 since the rc0 w/ wimax hit so I am probably missing out though.. I know a lot has been fixed since then but I just can't bring myself to flash it yet... cm9 will be the end all be all for me! Looks amazing in the videos, can't wait!!!
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Now TDJ is gone, what's the best Rom in terms of stability?

HI everyone,
I'll start by acknowledging all of the answers to questions OTHER than what is in this title.
- Yes ROM's are personal choice.
- Oh, thanks now I know that it is a matter of preference on how I use my phone and how I want my rom to look.
- Sheez, there are other amazing developers on here besides TDJ?
Ok, so for a while Mr Derek dominated this forum with his superb skills (is that dude really in his early 20's!)
and so now I have no idea who are the up and coming superstars.
I have a busy life so trolling every post to see what people think of the new guys isn't an option for me (especially as I am not an employee where I can surf while at work and get paid for it - you know who you guys are lol
I was a die hard MIUI user and found great battery with the TDJ kernels.
I tried Darkside CM7 and Sense 4.0 and they sucked out more juice.
So I'm looking for a stable "daily" and I found MIUI 2.35 by TDJ to start FC a lot.
I am now on MIUI 2.3.9 and it is pretty good - so great job to Cnote and Jhutson
for that.
I am still finding quite a lot of FC's even though I have fixed permissions and only ever flash after full wipes etc.
I'd love to hear what you guys think. Developers - Time to promote yourself and tell me why you rock...
Users- time to share your thoughts and cheer for your faves.
Look forward to hearing from you all soon!!

Check out team Inferno's roms, those are pretty stable. If stability is your major concern, i would steer away from the ics roms for now because, in my experience, the launcher is very destable or they lack some features. I personally use darksense, just because tdj has left the forums doesn't mean that you can't use his roms.

Personally, I enjoy using CoreDroid v1.3. I installed DianXinOS on my wife's phone for the eye candy (it also has great battery life with it's battery manager), but it's still in development being ported over & translated from Chinese. I was getting frustrated using DianXinOS as a daily driver, so I had to change, but I think it's a viable option once it's up & running to its full capabilities. It's a project from Team Inferno I believe, so I expect great things from that ROM.

Team Inferno's ROMs are very stable. Although, CoreDroid is good as well. If you're an AOSP fan, I'd stick with either faux123's CM7 or MIUI. Team Inferno is working on Sense + ICS, but you say Sense 4.0 (think you meant 3.6) didn't work for you. I'd go with either Android Revolution HD or HoneySmartDroid for Sense ROMs. Hope this helps you.

Most stable is vu 2.39 for me. Can't be beat, and has excellent battery life.
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@eqjunkie829
Are you getting this direct from miui.us?
I know that TDJ was doing some considerable tweaks to make it better and I think he had mentioned there were some new amazing devs coming up to take over.
Now I see quite a few different MIUI roms and not sure what is the optimal etc.
Thank you to everyone who gave clear, honest and respectful comments - I hit your thanks buttons!

iphonetraitor said:
@eqjunkie829
Are you getting this direct from miui.us?
I know that TDJ was doing some considerable tweaks to make it better and I think he had mentioned there were some new amazing devs coming up to take over.
Now I see quite a few different MIUI roms and not sure what is the optimal etc.
Thank you to everyone who gave clear, honest and respectful comments - I hit your thanks buttons!
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...he said VU... Virtuous Unity, version 2.39. it's a Sense 3.0 ROM... very stable, very fast, very good.