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Opening the a500

Just wanted to post my .02 about opening the a500. Its pretty easy to open, as its just a few clips. I just got through doing a quick teardown of it and wanted to warn anyone who tries to open it of two things,
1. Make sure you eject your microsd card. I didn't and I ended up breaking the sd card (and almost the slot).
2. Use the sdcard cover section for your first pry. If you pop it open you can see a small gap between the plastic and metal. Use a VERY small flat head to pop it up. from there you should be good.
I learned both these the hard way, so hopefully you should be able to open your Iconia without damaging it.

Could you take photos of the interior, particularly the fabled "sim slot". Just to put to rest the rumours of it not being activated.
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suomaf said:
Could you take photos of the interior, particularly the fabled "sim slot". Just to put to rest the rumours of it not being activated.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13906139&postcount=5

Thanks much appreciated. I just wish I knew what I was looking at. Lol
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It DOES NOT have a sim slot. The metal bracket is not attached. Go search under my name, I've started a group to get a 3/4g modem working internally

http://m.techrepublic.com/blog/itdojo/acer-iconia-tab-teardown-easy-to-service-3g-ready/2861

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http://m.techrepublic.com/blog/itdojo/acer-iconia-tab-teardown-easy-to-service-3g-ready/2861
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There idiots. Look at the pci-e slot. Do you see a riser bracket to hold the card. Take it from someone who has actually opened his. Its not 3g ready

3g Iconia
Just inquiring .. Did anyone ever find the correct 3g card and bracket to actually install, download drivers and for it to function ???( Inconia A500)
Mary M.
QUOTE=suomaf;17576682]Could you take photos of the interior, particularly the fabled "sim slot". Just to put to rest the rumours of it not being activated.
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nateleduc said:
Just wanted to post my .02 about opening the a500. Its pretty easy to open, as its just a few clips. I just got through doing a quick teardown of it and wanted to warn anyone who tries to open it of two things,
1. Make sure you eject your microsd card. I didn't and I ended up breaking the sd card (and almost the slot).
2. Use the sdcard cover section for your first pry. If you pop it open you can see a small gap between the plastic and metal. Use a VERY small flat head to pop it up. from there you should be good.
I learned both these the hard way, so hopefully you should be able to open your Iconia without damaging it.
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XOOM Meltdown - Literally

I was about to update my ROM on my wifi xoom when I noticed that the edge of my SD Card opening was bubbled from heat, further investigation, my xoom had melted just behind the top of the SD card, causing the SD card to melt a little as well. Sounds like a manufactured flaw, is this something anyone has experienced? I hope I can get it replaced if I simply put it back to stock...

Photos!
I think we are all curious about photos .
But you should also make photos for yourself to documentate the damage. The problem should be covered by warranty. But Moto might say that SD card was the root cause of the problem, or that you inserted SD card wrong and generated a shortcut.
If the SD card would still work, Moto should not have much arguments to reject warranty. However, most cases I heard off Moto exchanged defect devices whithout any problems.
Chilli

>I hope I can get it replaced
The battery pack is the only component that can output any appreciable heat, and it's not at the edge of the tablet. Whatever caused the plastic to melt sounds like an external source.
It may well be chemically related, ie a liquid (solvent?) coming into contact with the plastic and causing a reaction.
You can hope for the best, but getting the manufacturer to foot the bill for external shell damage is just slightly easier than RMA'ing a cracked screen. Good luck all the same.

Damage... I sent them an email and will probably call them this weekend.

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Agree with could have been external heat source.
Disagree with agressive fluid (plastic is very resistiv against all kinds of fluids and no residues of fluid seen)
Disagree wirh battery explanation (would be bad if power plant generator gets warm, but your hair dryer stays cold)
Moto has the option to check if a GND and battery layer are one above the other in that area. Than a crack in the PCB could lead to such a damage. Just interresting that it finally stopped itself so soon.
Chilli

Chilli71 said:
Agree with could have been external heat source.
Disagree with agressive fluid (plastic is very resistiv against all kinds of fluids and no residues of fluid seen)
Disagree wirh battery explanation (would be bad if power plant generator gets warm, but your hair dryer stays cold)
Moto has the option to check if a GND and battery layer are one above the other in that area. Than a crack in the PCB could lead to such a damage. Just interresting that it finally stopped itself so soon.
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External heat source? It's always in my backpack when not in use... That doesn't make sense.

From the pics, it looks like a short that generated enough heat to cause the surrounding plastic to malform. PCB also looks charred. I'm surprised the slot still works.
Doesn't look like a manufacturing defect from here. Foreign (conductive) contaminant is most likely culprit.

e.mote said:
From the pics, it looks like a short that generated enough heat to cause the surrounding plastic to malform. PCB also looks charred. I'm surprised the slot still works.
Doesn't look like a manufacturing defect from here. Foreign (conductive) contaminant is most likely culprit.
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The slot does not work...that's what brought my attention to it, trying to place a new ROM on the external card would just freeze in the copying process. How is a foreign contaminant even possible when the plastic little insert was on, keeping the bad stuff out?

@Brad: Just ment I could not exclude external heat source by the pictures. Did not mean that you left your soldering iron unattanted on the table .
I would leave the root cause analysis up to Moto.
Although the PCB has no formal coating, the are no SMD parts or contacts in the burned area. So solder resist should give a basic protection against pollution from outside.
Chilli

Since the SD card was in the slot at the time, it may well be the culprit. Suggest inspecting the card to see if the card's melted portion is extensive and includes the center of the card, or if it's only minor and at the periphery. If the first, the thermal issue likely starts at the card's. If the second, then the card's damage is likely collateral.
It's academic, at any rate. I'd be surprised if Moto would repair this under warranty, so be prepared for that likelihood. If not covered, the repair job would involve swapping out the mainboard, which may mean buying a new tab may be the more prudent option.

I would guess the card won't come out without dismantling the tab. And than warranty would be void. So we well not know the pattern of the cards damage.
I would assume one would need at least 5W for minutes to get this heat. I know it gets really academic, but I wonder if the cards bonding wires would support the needed current so long...
Chilli

Hey dude sorry about the melt down but where did u get the Droid pissing on apple..
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Seems to be a sticker and not a protection foil
http://www.androidstickers.com/android-decals/27-android-pissin-on-apple-decal.html
I guess, you will find your way using the (or similar) keywords from the site above.
Chilli

The SD card was in but the top part of the card is the only thing melted. The SD card came out, sounds to me that Motorola should replace a device that is unable to manage standardizes equipment, ie: SD card.
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Probayblity of internal SD card failure is higher than probability of wrong handling by Xoom. I would still send in the Xoom with the card and see what Moto says. But you can probably only hope for good will.
Was it the best quality SD card you could find, or the cheapest one, not even with a brand on it?

I realize this thread is a little old- but I'm kinda curious as to how it turned out. Even though it was in your backpack and had a card inserted doesn't mean a paperclip, stray staple or similar couldn't have somehow got jammed in there. When I look at the pics, it didn't look like the sd card was the culprit and like you seemed to imply- it wasn't so messed up that you tried to copy files to it (the sd card) after the fact? Anyway- just curious what motorola did...

is this a 3g or wifi only Xoom?

Have to send it in still...wifi xoom. I'll let you know. Been very busy this month.
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UPDATE: He told me that Motorola replaced his xoom.

Broke My first Pi

Well, I dropped my pi with a sd card in and it broke the little pieces of plastic that hold the sdcard down. have it rednecked for now with a small plastic clamp and another pi on order but that sucks.

If anyone has any idea how to fix I am all ears. I have emailed element 14 about USA repair options
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It would appear you are not the first.........
http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=18069
If you are a card carrying member of the Hardware Jockeys' Association, i.e. you are reasonably skilled with a fine soldering iron and know a bit about repairing surface mounted components (Google) - you can get the part for a couple of pounds/dollars/euros and replace it.
It appears to be surface mounted - not soldered through the board, which makes it easier. It is still not an easy job, but it is not impossible.
You may wish to wait until the new one arrives before having a go at a repair.

stephj said:
It would appear you are not the first.........
http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=18069
If you are a card carrying member of the Hardware Jockeys' Association, i.e. you are reasonably skilled with a fine soldering iron and know a bit about repairing surface mounted components (Google) - you can get the part for a couple of pounds/dollars/euros and replace it.
It appears to be surface mounted - not soldered through the board, which makes it easier. It is still not an easy job, but it is not impossible.
You may wish to wait until the new one arrives before having a go at a repair.
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Had that happen too. They may do it under warranty so avoid fixing yourself until you get a clear answer back.
One solution will be to glue a micro sd card adaptor into the slot permanently and use micro sd cards (there are even half size adaptors available too). Less chance of additional damage that way.

I have emailed element 14 The makers. I live in the USA so ordering the part posted on the Rpi forum makes no sense. I did find this http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150932200123
and for 1.50 USD It will be good to have incase they dont email me back.

and just ordered one of these http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350629703528

When it comes to the point where you are actually going to wield a soldering iron at it, you may find one of these things invaluable, if you do not already have one in your armoury.
http://www.amazon.com/s/url=search-alias=aps&field-keywords=helping+hands

I used the credit card fix. Still have another one coming. May sell it as they are hard to get in the US
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unbelieveable said:
my ideal solution is go to buy another one, because the pi was dropped then it is hard to fix, so i think just buy another one
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Even if you do get another one for normal use, the old one can be used for something or ebayed.

meltwater said:
Even if you do get another one for normal use, the old one can be used for something or ebayed.
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Use the credit card fix http://raspi.tv/2012/how-to-fix-a-broken-sd-card-slot-on-your-raspberry-pi I added an extra piece to help hold the card down works fine. I used crazy glue

Or solder a mSD to SD adapter like that (I broke a RPi too)
See my Photo

Will it be too much for a $35 item?

My SD card slot broke too when I tried to place my RPi in my new case.
So I folded a piece of thick paper and placed it on top of my SD card so the top of the case itself does push on the card that remains in the slot.
As long as I dont't use an other card it works

[Q] How to open the Nexus 10?

I want to open my N10 up, but I really don't know how much force to be using to separate the back from the screen (seems like it would require an extreme amount of force).
I have a suction cup attached to the screen, and I have the screw off the back. From there, I assume I would start at a corner and just press it downward to try to get the back off? Should it require a lot of force? Does the back bend, or should it?

Do a search, got to be videos on you tube.
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rbeavers said:
Do a search, got to be videos on you tube.
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Only thing I can find is the PowerMedic teardown, which doesn't explain how much force should be needed still...
I'd rather hear from someone personally how hard it was to open their N10.

espionage724 said:
Only thing I can find is the PowerMedic teardown, which doesn't explain how much force should be needed still...
I'd rather hear from someone personally how hard it was to open their N10.
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Search youtube( google nexus 10 gets clean) shows the rear cover being removed. I couldn't post a link because I don't know how to! Hope it helps if

Lipp24 said:
Search youtube( google nexus 10 gets clean) shows the rear cover being removed. I couldn't post a link because I don't know how to! Hope it helps if
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Found it
Hmm, I'll have to see if I have a separating tool, but that doesn't look like too much force was used at all.

Finally got it open. Was a huge pain to do with a credit card (basically destroyed it mostly), but I started with the top-middle edge, and worked my way around from there. Biggest pain was to get the bottom edge off, but I managed to get that off after a while.
So, I just noticed that my Pogo connection area, there's a pin broken. From left-to-right, it's the 5th pin. Why is this?

espionage724 said:
Finally got it open. Was a huge pain to do with a credit card (basically destroyed it mostly), but I started with the top-middle edge, and worked my way around from there. Biggest pain was to get the bottom edge off, but I managed to get that off after a while.
So, I just noticed that my Pogo connection area, there's a pin broken. From left-to-right, it's the 5th pin. Why is this?
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Do you mean on the inside of the N10 there is a pin broken? I looked at those powerbook medic photos which its hard to get an angle on that area, but it didnt look like any of the inside pin connections were missing, so are you saying it looks intentionally not connected/separated?

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Do you mean on the inside of the N10 there is a pin broken? I looked at those powerbook medic photos which its hard to get an angle on that area, but it didnt look like any of the inside pin connections were missing, so are you saying it looks intentionally not connected/separated?
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It's like a 3-piece system in the Pogo cable area. The N10 shell has the 5 pin area and has metal contact sheets on the inside for those pins. The N10 itself then has strips of metal I think above metal contact points. The strip of metal that should come in-contact on the N10 itself is cut-short on the 5th pin.
Probably not the best explanation though. I think I saw a post on the Pogo cable thread of someone mentioning this.

espionage724 said:
It's like a 3-piece system in the Pogo cable area. The N10 shell has the 5 pin area and has metal contact sheets on the inside for those pins. The N10 itself then has strips of metal I think above metal contact points. The strip of metal that should come in-contact on the N10 itself is cut-short on the 5th pin.
Probably not the best explanation though. I think I saw a post on the Pogo cable thread of someone mentioning this.
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I know there was a post about the pogo charger that included pictures, and in the picture one of the pins was either missing or shaded. the discussion assumed it was missing and gave theorys on why. (all perfectly reasonable as I remember.) BUT I just got a pogo in the mail a couple days ago and, at least this vesion, has all its pins. im guessing there is a couple ways the pogo "port" could be utilized, so a variety of combinations would certainly make sense.
but as for that cut short you're talking about, does it look machine done? like if its a ribbon-like material does the notch made in it look perfectly made such that it was done by machine? or does it look jagged or snagged? if it looks machine made Im sure its intentional. if it looked jagged or snagged Id be concerned that is on accident.
EDIT: i ask/say "ribbon like material" but same basic thought process for me re: metal extensoin posts - does the "cut" look like it was done with some sort of grinding device that would leave the pins as "not sharp" or does it look cut like when you flex metal a bunch and it snaps or if you use wire cutters how it leaves a jagged edge.
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Dual sim with SD card

Just wanted to start a centralized thread for those attempting this. I seen one guy claim with pictures that show both sim active and also SD card, but no write-up. Can someone please post a good instruction set. I am sure people would be willing to donate for your time and effort. I know I would. I have a 64gb card dying to get cut up!!

I tried to dock an sim to sdcard, no success tho. SD card was shown but not the sim. I tried the sim after mounting in an old phone and it was functional.

You mean something like this?

That is exactly it...awesome link. Thanks!!! Now see if I have the gonads to do it. Worried the sim/SD card gets stuck in phone and I can't pull tray out...

Juuls said:
You mean something like this?
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I was looking for that: awesome !!! Thank you for the link !
Has anyone had success trying it ?

I guess this is not just for the Edge but also for the normal S7, right? The trays and software should be the same?

On their website the topic says,
HOW TO INSERT 2 NANO SIM (DUAL SIM ENABLED) AND MICRO SD CARD IN SAMSUNG GALAXY S7 EDGE
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I guess this is not just for the Edge but also for the normal S7, right? The trays and software should be the same?
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So tried tonight and the sim card would not fit while trying to close sim tray. Do you think the 128 GB micro SD card from sandisk thicker than maybe a 64 GB one from different brand? Suggestions guys?

mikereyes01 said:
So tried tonight and the sim card would not fit while trying to close sim tray. Do you think the 128 GB micro SD card from sandisk thicker than maybe a 64 GB one from different brand? Suggestions guys?
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I managed to make it work with a Sandisk 128 gb. Had to grind it a little bit and put a small drop of olive oil on the non contact side to help
getting in and out. After 2 days it still works.
I was also wondering if all micro sd cards had the same thickness, it might be interesting to compare.

Shouldn't it be possible to sand off the SD card a little to make it thinner without destroying it?

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Shouldn't it be possible to sand off the SD card a little to make it thinner without destroying it?
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This is just what I did on the side of the card where it is written the size and speed of your micro sd card.
I did it with a small grinder but sand paper should be more adequate. Do it lightly and try many times
till you think you can totally insert the tray with difficulties. Then add a drop of lubricant (i used olive oil) on the non contact side
and it should work. After several hours of the tray inside the phone, I found it was a little easier to insert/remove the card.
The combo 2 nano sims + 128 micro sd has been working well for 5 days now without problem.
Good luck and take your time to sand it slowly and blow the dust so it does not come inside the phone on the contacts..

I finally got my sandisk 128 to work without sanding. The backside of sd card has a hump so trying to get it to sit flush was hard with double side tape so it would stick up and slide away. So read that best way is just glue it down especially side that goes in phone first. I used plastic chip clamps to wait for it to dry. Sat great on SD card. Have it a good wiggle in. Bam all good with T-Mobile ATT and 128gb storage. Thanks again XDA community!!

mikereyes01 said:
So tried tonight and the sim card would not fit while trying to close sim tray. Do you think the 128 GB micro SD card from sandisk thicker than maybe a 64 GB one from different brand? Suggestions guys?
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Yes! - Refer this Image