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Hey got my transformer today but no joy, It wont even power on . I charged it via wall socket for an hour, still wont power on so I tried charging it through usb on my desktop and still no dice. I tried the button combinations listed here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1032374 and was able to get a reproducible click noise but no screen movement what so ever. I unplugged it once in the beginning and it made a low battery noise but have not been able to make that happen again. Any ideas?
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timinator94
P.S. Should I try this? http://tabletroms.com/forums/showthread.php?976-Nvflash-Unbricking-and-forever-root!
It couldn't hurt to try. It supposed to unbrick bricks.
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Tried it. Windows does not recognize the device. Then clicking on properties it states that the device is not working. I'm guessing faulty cable. Will look for a replacement tonight.
As per the instructions charge it for 8 hours with the OEM charger and cable. Charging via the USB is pretty worthless. The charger is rated at 1.2 Amps at 15 volts. A USB port is .5 Amps at 5 volts, way less.
You need to install the Windows drivers to have ir recognized.
Sounds like a dead screen.
Does the power adapter feels hot/warm when you do your charging? Did you push in the power adapter until you hear a click sound?
@greeny2010 Yes and yes,
I will let it charge all night tonight and let you all know in the morning.
Ok I let it charge overnight and attempted to power it on. First I pressed the power button for ~10 seconds then waited ~5 seconds and pressed power again. This time the speakers made a pop noise and I heard the camera click but still no screen D:
Any other ideas? I really don't want to rma I have my final essay due Thursday and I stupidly sold my laptop to get this thinking it would get here and just work.
I read in another post where someone had a similar issue which was due to a bent pin where the transformer connects. I would inspect that carefully.
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Ok I let it charge overnight and attempted to power it on. First I pressed the power button for ~10 seconds then waited ~5 seconds and pressed power again. This time the speakers made a pop noise and I heard the camera click but still no screen D:
Any other ideas? I really don't want to rma I have my final essay due Thursday and I stupidly sold my laptop to get this thinking it would get here and just work.
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do you have a mini hdmi? IF so see if you get a picture on your tv. I was able to get a picture on my tv but not on my TF. Turned out my display was dead.
Dead screen The backlight is out. Is there any fixing this or is rma the only option?
sux, RMA it yo
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Dead screen The backlight is out. Is there any fixing this or is rma the only option?
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Within 30 days you can always return it, if you can find another one in stock somewhere. Otherwise RMA is your only option
bricked transformer
i have asus tranfrormer 9.x.x.x, recovery 5.8.x.x, after i did superwipe , every thing is gone and i cant flash any rom through adb/nvflash saying cant write to sdcard (read only). any suggestions?
Didn't even flash or root yet and my 32 grey GT died last night. It had been working great and was getting ready to flash pershoots kernel this weekend. Last night I plugged in after shutting it down like I do every night. Today when I went to turn it on nothing. I tried holding down the power button for a while and still nothing. I tried holding down volume buttons with power for extended period still nothing. I even tried plugging into different outlet to see if something happened with outlet and maybe drained the battery overnight. Luckily I got it from Fry's two weeks ago on Friday right when they came out and Fry's has a 15 day return policy but this makes me a little concerned... and that's cutting it a little too close.
Has anyone heard of things like this happening with the GT? I'm thinking I may need to see if they'll still sell me the extended warranty. I babied this thing and hadn't even flashed anything on it yet. I'm a little concerned about the reliability of the hardware... I'm not usually the one with the needle in the haystack device that goes bad but who knows... I'm already in withdrawal without it.
Is there anything else I can try before I take it back? Maybe try plugging it into the computer instead to see what happens? I can't really see what else I could do since this thing doesn't have a removable battery. If it won't power on I can't imagine there's much I can test with the SDK dev tools from the PC using the usb cable?
plugged it in with usb...
I do hear the sound of a device being plugged in on win7 when I plugged GT in and got the driver message in tray. GT still won't turn on. When I hold down the power button every about 6 seconds my windows machine machine makes the same sound you get when plugging in a usb device in addition to an extra sound at the end.
[email protected] well I guess it's going back tomorrow.
You got the sleep of death. This is a honeycomb bug that i have personally experienced in the xoom, transformer, and the GT. The way to fix it is to unplug the GT, press the power button down by itself and hold it until the you see the screen turn on and startto boot up. It may take 15 seconds or more.
If that doesnt work, plug it into the wall outlet and try the process again. If that fails also, unplug it again and try the process once more.
That combination seems to work for everyone. The only exception would be if the battery is completely drained. You would need to plug it into a wall charger for a few hours and let the battery charge, and then try the process again.
I dont know why this hasnt been fixed by google yet, its really annoying. I thought 3.1 would fix it but it didnt.
you should have post this on the general thread, but why dont you return it for a different one? problem solve...
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I think you got the battery drained .. for some odd reasons the android has leaky power consumption even when shutdown on occasions ..
Charge it up for a while .. wait .. correction LONG while ..
Hope that is the problem
Exactly the same problem, I have tried the hold power button but it is not working... any other work around?
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I chatted with a rep from Samsung last knight and he told me that I needed to leave the Tab charging for at least 6 hours and then try again... so I'll let you know if that did the trick... hope it does...
I've actually had this happen on two different 32GB Galaxy Tabs (the original one I purchased and its replacement). After powering the device down it would not boot up.
In both cases it happened about 3 days after receiving the tablet and with 80-90% battery charge remaining. I tried additional charging, holding the power button down for an extended period of time, and attempting to boot into download mode - everything failed to bring it back to life.
I'm not sure what triggers this condition my only suspicion was that it may have something to do with enabling encryption on the device. On the second tablet I didn't have time to do much customization or install many apps but it ended up dying shortly after enabling encryption.
Wow. This happened to me yesterday with my 16gb from Sprint. Had come unlocked,yesterday 3 days in, died. I tried all the suggestions above to no avail.
Took it to corporate today. Now waiting on replacement.
bumming*
Hope next one is unlocked
Edit**** worked. Lol. Guess I didn't try it again today after I tried charging it last night.
About 15 to 20 seconds and she's back!!! Excellent! ! Thank you so much.
Not sure now whether to replace it.
With another.
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Hi, I start this new thread as a new user and my first message because I'm really really worried about my samsung galaxy 10.1 tablet, It is a wi-fi only tab I bought through Amazon, and has just arrived to my country, Costa Rica, so, as any normal person, I opened the box, readed the manual and turned it on, and started checking everything in the tab, and when finished, (because I don't have wi-fi yet) I turned it off, and started to charge it with the factory charger (AC conector) it has been 5 hours since then... It has not turned on again, no matter if I press the On button 30 seconds, nor turning it on conected to a computer, or to the AC, or without anything, so I called support, and they said the same thing I was expecting, charge it and see what happens, and nothing happened, I'm really really worried about my tab, 600$+shipping is a BIG amount of money to have invested, the computer is brand new, as you will buy it from the second link availabe in amazon when you type samsung galaxy tab 10.1.
Can you help me?
Tab does not turn on..
What finally happen did it turn on...If not there is a why to reboot it by holding the vol. button and the Power.
Hope it went well, don't give up..
That is why I made this thread, I already tried the volume technique, with +, with -, with both, with + and shaking, with - and shaking, and all those with also touching the screen, an nothing!!
when you turned it off and plugged it in to charge, did you notice anything appear on the screen indicating that it was charging? Normally when turned off and plugged in a battery will appear on the screen. even if the screen turns off you can touch the power button to show the battery again.
If no battery ever appears, then it looks like you were not receiving a charge in the first place so the tab can simply be dead of juice.
Yes, the first time I turned it on I saw the battery, but when I turned it off, I never saw it again, even in this 10 hour period that has been charging on different outlets to see if the outlet is the problem.
Even I used a pencil tipe voltage tester, that tells if an outlet has voltage current, and the voltage could be felt around the tablet when charging.
But the screen does not turn on when pressing the button, nor touching the screen.
as a test, use just the usb plug and connect it to your computer. it shouldnt receive alot but see if that will initiate the screen turning on displaying the battery.
No, it does not turn on even when conecting it to the computer, it appears a message of no controlers found in the computer, but the divice does not turn on at all
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No, it does not turn on even when conecting it to the computer, it appears a message of no controlers found in the computer, but the divice does not turn on at all
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idk then man, it could be the wire or it could be the tab itself
Besides something wrong with the GTab, I guess it could still be a defective cable.
Yes, it could be a possibility, that the wire is bad, but also, I can mention that in the time it was on, and working, I exchanged a couple of photos for my wallpaper, photos that I took with my camera long ago, so, if conection means, the cable I think works ok.
this happened to me.. tab is finished, send it in for repair and you will receive a refurb....
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Yes, it could be a possibility, that the wire is bad, but also, I can mention that in the time it was on, and working, I exchanged a couple of photos for my wallpaper, photos that I took with my camera long ago, so, if conection means, the cable I think works ok.
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Did you press power and volume down at the same time for at least 31 seconds for samsung logo to come on?
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I've tried with the volume key and the power key at the same time for almost a minute, without being conected to the charger, and being conected, also tried conecting it to the computer, and downloading the drivers that samsung offer in the support page, and samsung kies, but they don't recognice the device, when checking the hardware of my computer, I see inside the tab of "other devices" one called APX that I know that is my tab, and says no controller is assigned to it.
Mackie, yesterday (today) I chatted with a support agent of samsung until 2am, trying to see for a solution, but he couldn't find one, so, we ended up in making a request for service, to use the warranty for them to repair/give another machine to me, but, I don't want to do it, because, it would be enormously expensive for me (100$ for a Costarrican is very expensive) so, I'm trying to find a solution to the problem before I send the tab to the US with a friend that lives there, so I can use the warranty, but that courrier charges would be really expensive for me.
In summary, I'm trying and trying to look for a solution, testing your comments and suggestions, and also at the same time looking for myself for an answer.. before december 8, when I plan sending my tab if anything works.
Once, this happened with my nokia e71, but because it ran out of battery, and won't turn on again, but... cellphones are easy, you can change the battery, and actually, it worked, and when I had time to take him to repair, they checked him with the old battery, and it worked again... Tabs are horribly sealed tight and I would lose the warranty if I try to open it to change the battery, and it might even not solve the problem!
i don't know if this would help.
I had the same situation and i thought mine was dead.
I pressed the volume button as long as i can. Took about almost a minute.
Sorry if this doesn't help
people please read previous comments, Coliner has stated numerous times in different posts that he has tried the power+volume method and has had no luck so please stop suggesting it
Coliner, the only other thing short of paying the money for the exchange/repair is to attempt using a different cable. you stated before that you used both the usb partial charge and the actual A/C charge method and have received no results. The only thing I can suggest is to try a different cable, if anyone else you know has pretty much any of the galaxy tab (7", 7+, 8.9", 10.1", 10.1v) then you can attempt to charge it. Or hell, see if any store has any of them on display charging, explain your situation and ask to let you give it a shot and if it works buy the cable from them if possible.
Short of prying the thing open to play surgeon, these are your only options.
NyPlaya, today, I'm going to the capital (the only place you could find something similar) and look for stores with tablets, and also directly to a samsung store, ask for a charger, and to see what happens, and try again to turn it on at my house, I've let her charging for 2 days now, continuosly, lets hope it worked!
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NyPlaya, today, I'm going to the capital (the only place you could find something similar) and look for stores with tablets, and also directly to a samsung store, ask for a charger, and to see what happens, and try again to turn it on at my house, I've let her charging for 2 days now, continuosly, lets hope it worked!
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I re read your post and i think we missed a big clue. You said you can see APX device in control panel. Apx is nvidias debug mode and in this mode (usually reached via power and volume up) the screen is blank. it is waiting for nvflash command. Check this thread for more info http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1324461
So wonder if volume up button might be stuck
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Well, I tried the procedure, and got to step 17... How do I run that command, how, where? so I then uninstalled the controler, and now not even the APX error appears, and tablet is still dead!
Also I went looking for chargers in stores, and they did not have chargers! so I couldn't test it!
I was searching in other forums and found this other clue:
Taken from http://www.htcmania.com/showthread.php?t=274687 post #14:
"What you run "dead" after having it at night charging, is something that unfortunately is still quite common. It happened at the beginning and pulled by soft reset, ie power button volume button -. It has happened a few times and this has been solved. I think it is related to removing the charger. Unplugging from the wall and then the tablet does not usually fail, but if you disconnect first tablet, it "dies." I tried also to turn on the screen before unplugging and so has not failed me to unplug the tablet first. Clearly a bug, I do not know if Samsung or Honeycomb, but obviously it is a pretty annoying bug. regards"
I remember I did that same thing! because my tab was conected to the PC, and I discovered it was not charging, I conected her to the AC in the wall, and without taking the 30 pin conector out, and boom, never again it has turned on!
I continued searching and found another method, power button plus volume- 10 seconds, release and volume + for some seconds, then conect to PC, and the driver appeared again, in this case Nvidia USB boot recovery
I continued to try the method shown to me by animatechnia, and typed nvflash --bl bootloader.bin --go, it says then:
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
C:\Windows\system32>cd C:\nvflash
C:\nvflash>nvflash --bl bootloader.bin --go
Nvflash started
rcm version 0X4
Command send failed (usb write failed)
C:\nvflash>
READ THIS, IT'S HAPPENED TO ME
Shortly after buying my tablet, before rooting, my tablet was charging and would NOT turn on. I read somewhere to do this:
Put your finger on the screen while holding the power button for as long as you must.
Don't let go til it comes on.
Edit: best of luck if that doesn't work. Things like this suck.
First time I tried with the finger, I forgot to disconect it, so, my pc started making sounds of conected device, disconected device, just like an USB stick, then I took the cable off, and tried for more than a minute both finger and power, and nothing happened
I think I have fried my Nexus 7.... didn't even think about what I did how stupid am I....
I decided to wire up a Hella connector to a USB cable the idea being to plug it into my phone for charging on the road... I then had a not so smart idea to use my OTG cable to connect the USB A connector to my Nexus 7 to see if it worked...
Nexus 7 booted past the bootloader and then nothing.... I realised then how stupid I had just been...and still nothing...
Presumably I've run a shed load of power down one of the data line..... what a fool.....
ARGH!!!!!!! anything I can possibly do to salvage it.... please!! :crying::crying::crying:
you could try something ASUS support told me, press all buttons (volume + & -, power) for 30 seconds, and if it won't boot after that, you should get a RMA
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you could try something ASUS support told me, press all buttons (volume + & -, power) for 30 seconds, and if it won't boot after that, you should get a RMA
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Going the RMA route would be costly. If it is dead, he'd be better off just bring a new N7.
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Thanks for the suggestion but no it hasn't worked...
I've had the N7 plugged into the charger for the last 30 minutes or so and when I went back to it the screen backlight was on slightly (you can see if you look at the screen from the side)... but the whole unit was really really hot... I've obviously disconnected it but now can't get the thing to turn off, if I hold down the power button the screen flicks off but then back on.
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Going the RMA route would be costly. If it is dead, he'd be better off just bring a new N7.
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I would think that "broken display” units on eBay/CL probably have working mobos and batteries, as the owners are trying to dump them because of the broken screen. But, buying used is a crap shoot.
Nice that Google is selling N7s at cost (or even a loss) - but it does mean that any oem component replacements will be a significant fraction of the original price.
I was reading in Play Books when my N7 shut down due to low battery. I plugged it in and it wouldn't charge or boot and I noticed a faint light bleed and faint dots streaming from right to left on the display. I tried things like holding the power button for 30 seconds to reset, holding vol down and power to try to get to recovery, but it wouldn't take. Finally, with it plugged in, I held down the power button for just about 10 seconds and backlight and dots stopped. A few seconds later without pressing anything, it booted up. It would start to charge, but if the screen timed out, I was back to the earlier state and it wouldn't come on. So I got it started again and immediately went to developer options and checked Stay Awake while plugged in. Eventually the charge built up and I'm back to normal, at least my N7 is normal. I only mention this because the OP talked about the faint backlight and it may be worth trying.
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Thanks for the suggestion but no it hasn't worked...
I've had the N7 plugged into the charger for the last 30 minutes or so and when I went back to it the screen backlight was on slightly (you can see if you look at the screen from the side)... but the whole unit was really really hot... I've obviously disconnected it but now can't get the thing to turn off, if I hold down the power button the screen flicks off but then back on.
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A standard hella charger outputs 5V at 2A which is the same as your N7 original wall charger.
I doubt your problem came from the charger, it might be softbrick at an unfortunately moment.
I came across a similar problem when i was editing a custom kernel.
If you tried every method to shut down the device and failed do the following:
1. Open the case (it's quite easy to open with a plastic card)
http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Installing+Nexus+7+Battery/9895/1
2. Unplug the battery and hold the power button 30 seconds (with the battery detached)
3. Let it soak for 10 minutes
4. Reconnect the battery and close the lid.
5. Put your nexus 7 in the wall charger, and you should see the battery bar on the screen.
After that, let it charge a few minutes and boot the device.
My wife's Nexus 7 suddenly won't turn on... It still had juice when she went to charge it, but the next day found it was totally dead.
I've tried different chargers, tried to get to the bootloader, opened it and unplugged the battery, hooked it up via USB to my computer, etc and nothing will get this thing to power on.
Any ideas?
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My wife's Nexus 7 suddenly won't turn on... It still had juice when she went to charge it, but the next day found it was totally dead.
I've tried different chargers, tried to get to the bootloader, opened it and unplugged the battery, hooked it up via USB to my computer, etc and nothing will get this thing to power on.
Any ideas?
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I mean, how long did you leave it on AC power? I know when I drain mine since coming to KitKat, it takes as long as a half an hour to respond again.
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I mean, how long did you leave it on AC power? I know when I drain mine since coming to KitKat, it takes as long as a half an hour to respond again.
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Sorry, it spent more than a day on the charger. Still nothing, cannot get it to respond at all.
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Sorry, it spent more than a day on the charger. Still nothing, cannot get it to respond at all.
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If you haven't already, try holding the power button for a while until *hopefully* the Google splash appears.
A good way to tell if the device is accepting a current is by using a charger that can verify this somehow, like with an embedded LED. One like this: http://www.verizonwireless.com/accessories/rapid-wall-charger-with-6-ft-cable-for-micro-usb/
I used this for my HTC Rezound when it still worked to make sure it was taking a charge because it would report it was charging in the OS but the charger module itself reported otherwise (the red Verizon ring didn't illuminate unless the charger was positioned a certain way in the device thus this was the only way I could supply it a charge and not hope it wasn't dead in the morning). When my Nexus 7 is drained, it draws enough voltage to get the charger to illuminate so maybe try one of these to really make sure it's still responding.
For the meanwhile, if you do decide to buy one, what was the last thing you/your wife had done? Was there root access?
U need press power for 2 min and need to be pluget into wall
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If you haven't already, try holding the power button for a while until *hopefully* the Google splash appears.
A good way to tell if the device is accepting a current is by using a charger that can verify this somehow, like with an embedded LED. One like this: http://www.verizonwireless.com/accessories/rapid-wall-charger-with-6-ft-cable-for-micro-usb/
I used this for my HTC Rezound when it still worked to make sure it was taking a charge because it would report it was charging in the OS but the charger module itself reported otherwise (the red Verizon ring didn't illuminate unless the charger was positioned a certain way in the device thus this was the only way I could supply it a charge and not hope it wasn't dead in the morning). When my Nexus 7 is drained, it draws enough voltage to get the charger to illuminate so maybe try one of these to really make sure it's still responding.
For the meanwhile, if you do decide to buy one, what was the last thing you/your wife had done? Was there root access?
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Interesting about the charger -- don't think I have one that does that. Maybe I'll see if my VZW store has one, not sure yet.
She had just used her tablet as normal, and plugged it in like she does every other day or so -- the next morning grabbed it and went to work only to find out that it was dead. IE: not turning on.
- No root access (totally stock)
- I've tried holding the power button for up to 2 mins. - nothing
- Even tried holding the down volume and power for up to 2 mins. together - nothing
- Removed the back and unplugged the battery (plug was really tight) and left it undone for 5 mins and reconnected - nothing
- When plugging in to a USB on the computer, the computer dings like I connected something but - nothing
Perhaps I'll take it apart again and see if I can get a voltage reading on the battery with my multimeter... didn't do that before, but would be good to know if it is charged and not turning on or what.
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Interesting about the charger -- don't think I have one that does that. Maybe I'll see if my VZW store has one, not sure yet.
She had just used her tablet as normal, and plugged it in like she does every other day or so -- the next morning grabbed it and went to work only to find out that it was dead. IE: not turning on.
- No root access (totally stock)
- I've tried holding the power button for up to 2 mins. - nothing
- Even tried holding the down volume and power for up to 2 mins. together - nothing
- Removed the back and unplugged the battery (plug was really tight) and left it undone for 5 mins and reconnected - nothing
- When plugging in to a USB on the computer, the computer dings like I connected something but - nothing
Perhaps I'll take it apart again and see if I can get a voltage reading on the battery with my multimeter... didn't do that before, but would be good to know if it is charged and not turning on or what.
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Remove the back cover, locate the plug to the battery, disconnect plug by sliding from right to left, then replug. Should be fine after that.
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Remove the back cover, locate the plug to the battery, disconnect plug by sliding from right to left, then replug. Should be fine after that.
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Thanks but I already did that. Nothing changed. If I don't get it going soon I'll be forced to buy something else as she is getting impatient.
I have the same issue.
I bought a refurbish one and it was working great for 2 days and yesterday when I tried to open it, it won't turn on anymore and I was able to browse on it 5 min before.
I tried everything but I cannot find any solution...
When I plug into a wall I cannot see the charging icon and when I plug it into my computer it will do the noise that a device is plug but nothing happen... I wonder if its the battery that is crap
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I have the same issue.
I bought a refurbish one and it was working great for 2 days and yesterday when I tried to open it, it won't turn on anymore and I was able to browse on it 5 min before.
I tried everything but I cannot find any solution...
When I plug into a wall I cannot see the charging icon and when I plug it into my computer it will do the noise that a device is plug but nothing happen... I wonder if its the battery that is crap
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I own 3 of these N7 tablets and this has been the number one issue. Sent one for repair when it was under warranty. The supplied Nexus wall charger burn out quick, and aftermarket cables last only 3 months. I've had better results using the Samsung wall charger and cable.
OP, it sounds like your wife's N7 is in APX mode. Connect it to your PC via a USB cable, and open Control Panel's devices and printers panel. If it sees an APX device, and you didn't make NVFlash blobs, your only recourse is a motherboard replacement.
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OP, it sounds like your wife's N7 is in APX mode. Connect it to your PC via a USB cable, and open Control Panel's devices and printers panel. If it sees an APX device, and you didn't make NVFlash blobs, your only recourse is a motherboard replacement.
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Well, that sounds interesting. Tell me more about the APX device thing. I didn't quite understand.
new nexus 7 2012
Me0211 said:
Well, that sounds interesting. Tell me more about the APX device thing. I didn't quite understand.
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I just got my new N7 32gb GSM 2012 in the mail today. Won't turn on at all. I'm not going to bother. Going to return it. Quite disappointed, as I didnt realized this issue (apparently with the battery) was so common. Was looking forward to flashing cyanogenmod. Poop. Might just get a samsung tab now, which I think is quite overpriced for its specs.
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I just got my new N7 32gb GSM 2012 in the mail today. Won't turn on at all. I'm not going to bother. Going to return it. Quite disappointed, as I didnt realized this issue (apparently with the battery) was so common. Was looking forward to flashing cyanogenmod. Poop. Might just get a samsung tab now, which I think is quite overpriced for its specs.
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If you're seriously looking for something other than an N7 then I'd suggest you look at the LG G-Pad.
I bought one for my Dad at Christmas and was amazed by how good the screen is, and the tablet generally, for the price. The LG skin is minimal and can be changed obviously with another launcher, and the battery life is better than my N7.