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Hi all,
The battery life of my 4month old SGS is becoming shorter every week! I can 'almost' last a work day (8 hours) with a fully charged battery and minimal use.
I had this problem also on the stock firmware, Darky's rom 8.x was a slight improvement (much faster tho!), Light-ning rom and Darky's rom 9.x.
Everyday I charge my battery untill it is full, when my alarm goes off it's already at 98% (it's still hooked up). When I'm in the train to school, my battery already dropped around 86% (being idle). I check some mobile websites, my e-mail and read some twitter messages.
Because I know services as Twitter (I'm using Tweetdeck) uses alot of resources and battery, so when I'm done looking I always shut down those programs. And I often do an 'end all' task in the 'System' app which I purchased from the market lately to monitor my battery.
During the day the only thing I do is check my mail and some websites, but not for long, mostly it would be around 5minutes or so. So WiFi is turned OFF, GPS is turned OFF, and only GMail synchronizes with default settings. So what's the deal? Is my battery slowly dieing because of oldness, or is there another problem?
Thanks in advance for helping me! You're doing a great job!
Sincerely yours,
S1GNZ
after flashing your custom roms of choice... did you ever do a battery calibration?
like let your phone drain till it dies on its own... turn it on againa nd let it die again to completely drain it to the point where u cant even turn it on.
Then plug your phone in to charge and let it charge to 100%. Keeping the phone plugged in turn on your phone into recovery. Then clear battery status.
Then reboot your phone into normal mode and let it continue charging till it says 100%. WHen you unplug your phone it SHOULD say 100% still.
This normally fix the problem but if you notice that your phone is dying quickly still then PM me.
One small advice,try logging out google talk,of-course if you are not on it much,it will give you at least 2-3 hrs more.
Also,there is already a thread active on this forum 'dont kill your phone
,give it a life' give that a read.
Mainly this battery drains are there because of apps doing sync. or polling.identify them and adjust settings.
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cripez said:
after flashing your custom roms of choice... did you ever do a battery calibration?
like let your phone drain till it dies on its own... turn it on againa nd let it die again to completely drain it to the point where u cant even turn it on.
Then plug your phone in to charge and let it charge to 100%. Keeping the phone plugged in turn on your phone into recovery. Then clear battery status.
Then reboot your phone into normal mode and let it continue charging till it says 100%. WHen you unplug your phone it SHOULD say 100% still.
This normally fix the problem but if you notice that your phone is dying quickly still then PM me.
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I've been browsing these forums lately, and I've also come across a thread which advice is just the opposite and that you should NOT do this, any advice if that's true? And is it also true that deleting the batterystats helps?
GreenSGS said:
One small advice,try logging out google talk,of-course if you are not on it much,it will give you at least 2-3 hrs more.
Also,there is already a thread active on this forum 'dont kill your phone
,give it a life' give that a read.
Mainly this battery drains are there because of apps doing sync. or polling.identify them and adjust settings.
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Am I auto-logged in on Google talk? If so, how do I log myself out :$? So Google sync might drain it? (Mail, Agenda, Contacts?)
Thanks for the quick replies! I really appreciate it!
Sincerely yours,
S1GNZ
I am not 100% sure if you auto logged or not.I believe not but if not so , then open app,press menu/setting button on phone,select logout.also if you not intending to use data network,press power key till you see a menu turn off,data network,turn it on when you need it.These small things saves some power.
If you dont want to mess around with this little twiks then 'juice plotter' is the app for you.it will manage lots of things and defi. saves battery.
BTW based on your usage desc., I think I use it in similar way ...almost and yet phone makes ~2 days.
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S1GNZ said:
I've been browsing these forums lately, and I've also come across a thread which advice is just the opposite and that you should NOT do this, any advice if that's true? And is it also true that deleting the batterystats helps?
S1GNZ
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You of course wouldn't be doing this alot nor should you NEED to do this often. It's only something you do when you're experiencing what you currently are.
Personally I have no idea why anyone say u "Should NOT" do this.. it's not like you're altering anything hardware wise. It's mainly software and power usage aspects.
Like I said to each their own. Some people say custom roms are a "No-No" cuz it messes with the phone in more bads than good and some says stock roms are for noobs. You dont HAVE to try what I said, it's merely a suggestion of fix or methods that seems to solve the problems others have encountered.
Clearing the battery status pretty much resets it's counter to 100% and from there it will "calculate" the life of the battery from full to empty. It's a calibration thing.
Now on regards to usage, keep your data plan off and auto-sync off when you're not using it. Leave your wifi off and gps off as well.. pretty much keep anything you dont need off until you need it. Some samsung apps does a background run thing where it'll auto turn on and auto run in the background which drains ur battery quite badly. If you don't use goggle talk or samsung chat apps, there are many ways to remove them completely so it won't mess with your battery life
Simple you installed a rom with multiple posts on battery drain problem .
A rom that also tells you about battery drain problems /fix on its front page .
jje
GreenSGS said:
I am not 100% sure if you auto logged or not.I believe not but if not so , then open app,press menu/setting button on phone,select logout.also if you not intending to use data network,press power key till you see a menu turn off,data network,turn it on when you need it.These small things saves some power.
If you dont want to mess around with this little twiks then 'juice plotter' is the app for you.it will manage lots of things and defi. saves battery.
BTW based on your usage desc., I think I use it in similar way ...almost and yet phone makes ~2 days.
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Okay! And you're right, it logs me on when I start the app. But I logged me out, just to be sure. I know about turning of the mobile data traffic, I'll see how much it saves. I think I came across juice plotter, but I'll look into it. Thanks!
cripez said:
You of course wouldn't be doing this alot nor should you NEED to do this often. It's only something you do when you're experiencing what you currently are.
Personally I have no idea why anyone say u "Should NOT" do this.. it's not like you're altering anything hardware wise. It's mainly software and power usage aspects.
Like I said to each their own. Some people say custom roms are a "No-No" cuz it messes with the phone in more bads than good and some says stock roms are for noobs. You dont HAVE to try what I said, it's merely a suggestion of fix or methods that seems to solve the problems others have encountered.
Clearing the battery status pretty much resets it's counter to 100% and from there it will "calculate" the life of the battery from full to empty. It's a calibration thing.
Now on regards to usage, keep your data plan off and auto-sync off when you're not using it. Leave your wifi off and gps off as well.. pretty much keep anything you dont need off until you need it. Some samsung apps does a background run thing where it'll auto turn on and auto run in the background which drains ur battery quite badly. If you don't use goggle talk or samsung chat apps, there are many ways to remove them completely so it won't mess with your battery life
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Don't be offended by what I said! . I only wanted to make sure I'm doing the right thing, I appreciate your criticism though. I did what you said and fully drained my battery yesterday, kept it charging overnight, cleared the batterystats through recovery mode and at the moment it's charging till 100%. I will see if it helps!
And according to my usage, I have Wifi and GPS turned of as default. And because I reinstalled a new ROM inclusive data wipe I don't have much chat apps installed, maybe there are some default apps that don't show up in the 'System panel' app though?
JJEgan said:
Simple you installed a rom with multiple posts on battery drain problem .
A rom that also tells you about battery drain problems /fix on its front page .
jje
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Care to explain a bit further?
FYI, I installed these ROMS:
past: Stock firmware 2.2.1
past: Darky's ROM v8.0 Gingerbread edition
past: Light-ning ROM 2.2 (if I'm correct, it's probably the latest)
current: Darky's ROM v9.2 Extreme edition (9.2 should've fixed the battery drain, am I right?)
Can't thank you enough for the replies!
Sincerely yours,
S1GNZ
im having similar problems too. calibrating doesnt really make a difference.
i installed an app called task identifier which is brilliant it tell me whats happening when the phone is asleep. the only trouble is i dont understand what these processes are so i cant disable them.... is there any sort of app out there that completely logs / signs you out of every app ??
i have 108 apps (not including system apps) and its hard trying to eliminate the battery drainers
Care to explain a bit further?
As it says post lots of with battery problems big big percentage running Darky rom .
current: Darky's ROM v9.2 Extreme edition (9.2 should've fixed the battery drain, am I right?) You would have to ask on dARKY Post .
Look at Battery drain thread LAST POST OR SO MAY BE OF INTEREST .
I am of the opinion that if a rom breaks something then installing more roms will often not fix the problem . I prefer a blank completely wiped phone in such cases with no trace of any rom left on it .
jje
@azzledazzle 108 apps? really ????
I don't have that much on my PC!
I think we should start narrowing down which apps drain most juice. I've been using Advanced Task Killer just to narrow down a couple.
example:
Sound Hound - starts on its own
Facebook had an issue with notifications push, when disabled, it still sent notifications to my phone. But I think they fixed it in the latest version.
We could start adding versions to know which app is a 'juice drainer'
It seems that our beloved Samsung did it again!
Now we can enjoy a fully functional, long waited, Gingerbread 2.3.4.
Although some sources say that it is only a leak, the JVP build seems to behave really well, according to the reports of many users.
Gingerbread 2.3.4 was build in order to fix some Android bugs and make the interface even faster. We have seen that the second task is a success, the user experience and crazy Quadrant scores being the best witnesses. But what about the first task, are there any android bugs in this build? Maybe we could find out together.
The key purpose of this thread is to find out if that Android OS bug, which made Gingerbread users a hard life, is still present.
You can help this investigation by keeping an eye on the battery stats and reporting the consumption (in percents, of course) of the Android OS. It is even better if you can add some screenshots.
Please don't forget to mention:
- The ROM and kernel you are using.
- Some apps or games you are using (known to fire this bug on previous builds).
- Whether you have autorotation on or off (some users reported they had no drain if kept off on 2.3.3 builds).
- What type of usage you applied to the phone (not really necessary, only you are kind enough).
If you have any kind of suggestion regarding some modifications for this thread you are welcomed to post them. It will helps us become more efficient.
Thank you very much for your effort!
EARLY CONCLUSIONS*:
- Battery life is indeed an improvement on JVP 2.3.4
- The Android OS bug is less aggressive. The reports show a maximum consumption of approx. 20%. We can't say for sure if we can talk about a bug anymore. Anyway, the drainage is not so bad, comparing to 2.3.3 versions.
- The Android System consumption is a bit scary (15-20%) especially after a flash. However, it tends to stabilize in time.
- A clean flash, factory resets, avoiding apps restoration with Titanium or similar, reducing consumers when you don't need them always helps. With or without battery draining bugs.
- JVP is a better alternative for previous versions due to improvements for battery life, speed and stability, even if it's a beta release. So you should go for it, it really is an upgrade!
*The statements above are based on reports and poll results collected until now and they may change. I take no responsibility if you will find those informations incorrect or incomplete. Flash JVP at your own risk, you could loose data or brick your phone, although there aren't reports that say that. Follow the instructions and you should be ok!
is this a new craze insted of train spotting or stamp colecting ....battery watching ....most of us have got a life and have better things to do then watch how much a battery uses ...do what i do charge the phone and enjoy these phones do use loads of battery
Updated with 2.3.4 I9000XXJVP,CSC = I9000OXAJVP and kept it on without sim and without even touching but fully charged. The battery life was just for one and half days.
Android OS running at 3%
using Damian's GTO Alpha kernel for JVP and Brotuck's gingerMod ROM.
Autorotation off.
Consistent q scores in the 2600 range, phone running very smoothly and very fast in daily use (internet, twitter, pics, camera, messaging, phone), 130+ apps installed, no issues. Seems a much better base firmware than any of the 2.3.3 variants.
It's a bit early to investigate this stuff.
Wait for Samsung to release 2.3.4 sources and devs to make some stable kernels based on this.
Until this time many stuff can be broken (well, you're free to beta test though ).
batery is much beter in 2.3.4
no since i flash JVP 2days ago!
anukilimanoor said:
Updated with 2.3.4 I9000XXJVP,CSC = I9000OXAJVP and kept it on without sim and without even touching but fully charged. The battery life was just for one and half days.
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Keep in mind that after a reflash the battery life will stabilize after a while.
In my opinion, the cell standby may be the cause. If left without SIM, Airplane mode off, your phone will continue to search for signal and this really drains the battery.
If you can make a test again, check the battery usage and post your conclusion.
Thanks for your contribution!
got-petrol said:
is this a new craze insted of train spotting or stamp colecting ....battery watching ....most of us have got a life and have better things to do then watch how much a battery uses ...do what i do charge the phone and enjoy these phones do use loads of battery
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This kind of activity is normal in community, especially here in XDA.
It will be useful for those kind of people who don't like to experiment in order to find some answers.
We could do like you but, what if we need to charge it again, after 8 hours, without using the phone?
That's why this "new craze" exists, because we want to avoid that kind of problems.
Tatsuya79 said:
It's a bit early to investigate this stuff.
Wait for Samsung to release 2.3.4 sources and devs to make some stable kernels based on this.
Until this time many stuff can be broken (well, you're free to beta test though ).
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You're right but the 2.3.4 concentrates on fixing bugs, so even in beta stage we should see some changes.
Anyway, the thread is intended to test the firmware regarding this problem, so it can become an indicator for people asking weather they will experience this problem of they can enjoy using their phone without even thinking about this.
lgsshedden said:
Android OS running at 3%
using Damian's GTO Alpha kernel for JVP and Brotuck's gingerMod ROM.
Autorotation off.
Consistent q scores in the 2600 range, phone running very smoothly and very fast in daily use (internet, twitter, pics, camera, messaging, phone), 130+ apps installed, no issues. Seems a much better base firmware than any of the 2.3.3 variants.
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Thanks for your feedback, happy user!
I must say that 2.3.4 battery is performing better than 2.3.3 so far.
After 11 hours with gps and auto rotate on, battery still have 30% of juice left.
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Comming from Froyo JPY to stock deodexed JVP, I have noticed a higher battery drain.
I lost 13% overnight, I had 21% battery use on cell standby (6hours of use). and I noticed something very strange, android system has a 18% battery use with only 5 minutes running, WTF???
I'm using stock deodexed rom from ramad, Dark core kernel and screen off animation. that's all I've changed to this rom, no games, and a few apps like titanium backup and atk.
When I tapped on the android system there was a huge list of included packages, I will list them here, maybe one of them (or all together) is causing that huge battery use:
com.samsung.InputEventApp
Service mode
Software update
Google Backup Transport (actually, I turned off google backup, idk why this is here)
Settings Storage
Mobile tracker
Account and Sync Settings
EncryptApp
Task manager
Error
Perso
com.sec.android.app.lcdtest
VPN Services
Factory Test
wssyncmlnps
PopupuiReceiver
Preconfig
BluetoothTest
Self Test Mode
WlanTest
Status Bar
Settings
Mobile tracker settings
Android System
DRM content
MTP Application
PhoneSetupWizard
Security Storage
Licence Settings
PhoneUtil
Those are all......
gtluis said:
Comming from Froyo JPY to stock deodexed JVP, I have noticed a higher battery drain.
I lost 13% overnight, I had 21% battery use on cell standby (6hours of use). and I noticed something very strange, android system has a 18% battery use with only 5 minutes running, WTF???
I'm using stock deodexed rom from ramad, Dark core kernel and battery off animation. that's all I've changed to this rom, no games, and a few apps like titanium backup and atk.
When I tapped on the android system there was a huge list of included packages, I will list them here, maybe one of them is causing that huge battery use:
com.samsung.InputEventApp
Service mode
Software update
Google Backup Transport (actually, I turned off google backup, idk why this is here)
Settings Storage
Mobile tracker
Account and Sync Settings
EncryptApp
Task manager
Error
Perso
com.sec.android.app.lcdtest
VPN Services
Factory Test
wssyncmlnps
PopupuiReceiver
Preconfig
BluetoothTest
Self Test Mode
WlanTest
Status Bar
Settings
Mobile tracker settings
Android System
DRM content
MTP Application
PhoneSetupWizard
Security Storage
Licence Settings
PhoneUtil
Those are all......
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It seems that you have a normal consumption on Android System. Also that app list is present on every ROM which has all system apps. On lite ROMs you can get a smaller list, because some of those apps are removed by the chefs.
Maybe your network coverage is not that good
After a flash, the battery needs stabilization, until then it can drain fast. Try to recalibrate it. Please tell me if you need a good guide.
Try a lite ROM. Maybe you will experience a good Android System consumption.
Thanks for the feedback!
Look at the poll results so far 72% say they have no battery issue, so it must be the apps on your phone that are at fault for any unusual battery drain.
Look at your own apps first before you blame the rom, mostly it's not the rom that's at fault.
gtluis said:
I lost 13% overnight, I had 21% battery use on cell standby (6hours of use). and I noticed something very strange, android system has a 18% battery use with only 5 minutes running, WTF???
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When you're not really using your phone, Android System will have a higher battery use percentage, because nothing else is using battery.
Long periods of idle, you will see higher Cell Stanby and Android System percentages.
The more you use the phone, those percentages will lower.
mammenj said:
I must say that 2.3.4 battery is performing better than 2.3.3 so far.
After 11 hours with gps and auto rotate on, battery still have 30% of juice left.
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Good job! Enjoy your phone!
turn off data connection or wifi when youre not using them
and it will least even longer...
This is what i had with the previous JVO (2.3.3) and not using any task killer anymore. I moderately used the phone, made some calls, wrote some SMS, had blutooth on in the car, listening mp3. Ah, and i set display brightness to "auto" always, i don't use the manual setting with lowest brightness value anymore.
But i also can get the battery down in less than a day...
I'll give the new 2.3.4 a try.
It's funny to see that there is always somebody who needs to torture the board with reinventing the battery wheel. Strange battery behavior usually shows up (and is often dependent on them) in threads with special roms or kernels. The only thing this thread will brings us is more of the same on how to save juice if you don't want to fork for a larger/extra battery.
My galaxy note is constantly displaying Android OS use between 50-70%.
Anyone else experiencing this issue?
Flash a Custom Kernel based on 2.6.35.14 (2 are available). This solves the problem.
thanx for the suggestion.
But i'd rather keep the stock firmware, for now, as this is my first android..don't wanna risk a brick.
From other threads i've read, there's a newer firmware 2.3.6 available for the germany galaxy notes. Any idea if it fixes this bug...its really annoying..i've already done factory resets thinking it may fix it .
I bought my note in st Louis USA . It had european charger and strange language that I don't recognize . it came as KJ4 build . So I don't know from what european country my note came but I downloaded and flashed Hong Kong rom 2.3.6 and its pretty good with battery , wifi , etc . I am just really disappointed with camera . My battery usage for android OS = 8% and Android system 7% . This link might help you . http://leemn.wordpress.com/2011/11/13/rooting-and-installing-cwm-for-the-samsung-galaxy-note/
abirsharda said:
thanx for the suggestion.
But i'd rather keep the stock firmware, for now, as this is my first android..don't wanna risk a brick.
From other threads i've read, there's a newer firmware 2.3.6 available for the germany galaxy notes. Any idea if it fixes this bug...its really annoying..i've already done factory resets thinking it may fix it .
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It definitely fixes it on the German Note... at least mine
I had/have the same issue. I flashed the latest KKA ROM which flahes the KK5 modem. I deodexed it and turned off some unwanted system apps. Running the CF-Root KKA kernel and Android OS spikes to about 30-40% at times. I don't think it really has much affect on battery life. From what I understand and have read, it has to do with wifi Scanning repeatedly. You can adjust your wifi sleep policy to help this.
abirsharda said:
My galaxy note is constantly displaying Android OS use between 50-70%.
Anyone else experiencing this issue?
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If it's keeping your phone 'awake' then you should install BetterBatteryStats which monitors Wakelocks. It'll tell you what OS services are going nuts.
It's happened to me a few times with rogue programs and USB host going crazy when I don't unmount correctly.
- Frank
Same thing happening to me? Do you experience heavier drain on wifi than 3g?
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budalica said:
I bought my note in st Louis USA . It had european charger and strange language that I don't recognize . it came as KJ4 build . So I don't know from what european country my note came but I downloaded and flashed Hong Kong rom 2.3.6 and its pretty good with battery , wifi , etc . I am just really disappointed with camera . My battery usage for android OS = 8% and Android system 7% . This link might help you . http://leemn.wordpress.com/2011/11/13/rooting-and-installing-cwm-for-the-samsung-galaxy-note/
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thanx but for now i don't wanna flash a custom rom.
kramdens said:
It definitely fixes it on the German Note... at least mine
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So you got the update through Kies or OTA?
ookba said:
I had/have the same issue. I flashed the latest KKA ROM which flahes the KK5 modem. I deodexed it and turned off some unwanted system apps. Running the CF-Root KKA kernel and Android OS spikes to about 30-40% at times. I don't think it really has much affect on battery life. From what I understand and have read, it has to do with wifi Scanning repeatedly. You can adjust your wifi sleep policy to help this.
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How do you adjust the sleep policy exactly, rooting ?
ChodTheWacko said:
If it's keeping your phone 'awake' then you should install BetterBatteryStats which monitors Wakelocks. It'll tell you what OS services are going nuts.
It's happened to me a few times with rogue programs and USB host going crazy when I don't unmount correctly.
- Frank
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So how did you fix the rouge programs and the USB host ?
lipsin said:
Same thing happening to me? Do you experience heavier drain on wifi than 3g?
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Yup...weird that wifi uses more battery than 3g..should be other way round..
abirsharda said:
thanx but for now i don't wanna flash a custom rom.
OK than follow THIS guide to install official 2.3.6 . I did and than I rooted with superoneclick with zergrush exploit
http://jjpda.blogspot.com/2011/11/n7000-how-to-flash-n7000zskk1-236.html
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Any misbehaving program either got their settings adjusted (stuff like sync frequency) or uninstalled. The USB host issue was, I think, because I unplugged the USB host cable without unmounting first. I just rebooted my phone in that case.
Well after countless number of hard resets....Android OS use in now around 11 %...
the difference i think was because of some apps....i'm not really sure...but this time i didn't install skype, winamp and viber...cuz every time i installed em...Android OS would be like upto 90%...
I currently have 2.6.35.7 with the KK1
would it be safe to update to the 2.6.35.14?
high OS battery is my only real problem.
Suzook1 said:
I currently have 2.6.35.7 with the KK1
would it be safe to update to the 2.6.35.14?
high OS battery is my only real problem.
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I have the same kernel but with kk3....dunno if 2.6.35.14 will help with Android OS battery usage...my note still has no update available....
The only thing i can suggest for now its most definitely an app you installed which is causing high android OS usage...read my previous post....i hard reset my note installed all apps i had before but not winamp, skype and viber....i've kinda narrowed it down to these 3 after many hard-resets...
When i had them installed....my phone lost about 2% battery per hour on standby....But now it loses 1-2% in 8 hours on standby...
I'm having the same this with the high OS battery drain and have skype installed. Going to remove it and see if I get the same result. I didn't have the other two.
I've got the 2.3.6 KKA firmware installed but the drain just suddenly started one time (not when I installed it). I figured it can't have been the firmware itself, but much more likely an application I had installed or had updated.
Doesn't ICS have a better breakdown of service usage etc? Should be perfect if they have done this. Just have to wait and wait and wait for the ICS version.
Surely there is an app out there that can tell you what in the "Android OS" is causing the problem?
As an indication of how bad mine is at the moment, I was 100% at 9am this morning, 11:30am now and its down to 84%.. That's really awful!
I want to reset the battery stats as it could simply be that, but don't have CWM installed on this firmware. I'm rooted though.
[update] I've removed the battery stats file and restarted to see if that will help too.
Adam_S said:
I'm having the same this with the high OS battery drain and have skype installed. Going to remove it and see if I get the same result. I didn't have the other two.
I've got the 2.3.6 KKA firmware installed but the drain just suddenly started one time (not when I installed it). I figured it can't have been the firmware itself, but much more likely an application I had installed or had updated.
Doesn't ICS have a better breakdown of service usage etc? Should be perfect if they have done this. Just have to wait and wait and wait for the ICS version.
Surely there is an app out there that can tell you what in the "Android OS" is causing the problem?
As an indication of how bad mine is at the moment, I was 100% at 9am this morning, 11:30am now and its down to 84%.. That's really awful!
I want to reset the battery stats as it could simply be that, but don't have CWM installed on this firmware. I'm rooted though.
[update] I've removed the battery stats file and restarted to see if that will help too.
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Yea...let us know if removing skype helps....
oh and i installed Asphalt 6 from the samsung apps store.....its not available in the market....i had also installed it before hard resetting my note.......and guess what....high Android OS usage again.....damn....removed it....and i think its back to normal....but still have to see if removing fixes it for sure......
I guess the battery manager will count power used by all hidden processes and services as Android OS...
I had exactly the same experience with Asphalt 6 too. Good game, but why it sucked so much power when not even in use, hell knows!
Skype not made a big difference that I could tell, but resetting the battery stats made an immediate difference. 2 hours since charged and only down to 98%. Usually it would be 90-92% by now.
How do you reset battery stats
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Same Boat
Hii,
Following are my stats
Android OS at 35% (Awake Time 1 hr 36 mins)
Display at 25% (on for 3 hrs @ 12% brightness)
Voice Calls at 13% (34 mins)
I don't know if the Android OS is a bit of a drain. Feels so. I think the Wifi Sharing and Wifi always remain on. So does Social Hub - use it to sync FB pictures to contacts as Social Hub offers great quality pictures unlike FB app or Friendcaster.
I do have Skype installed, but its never been initialised, never logged into.
I use GO Launcher, with 9 home screens. TouchWiz has been rendered empty (no widgets, short-cuts whatsoever running there)
I do use APW widget pack - Twitter & FB updates at 3 hours. GReader (with Google Reader syncing every hour). 2 Contacts widgets.
In addition to it, I also have the PowerAmp 4x2 music widget. Homescreen has Simple Calender widget, A "Make youw own clock" widget, a 1x1 Beautiful Widget Weather.
Dunno if the widgets are causing the drain or not.
Like you remarked, my battery drain ATM is around 1-1.5% per hour, with Wifi On and everything running and syncing (as above)
The standby time has been pretty decent. Whereas I am happy with charging everyday, if I could reduce the AndroidOS overload, I cud brighten up my screen a bit more
Dunno wat to do now. I don't wanna root now or try any techy stunts. The phone is only 2 days old yet.
Wud appreciate if anyone can guide me around. I will try to FORCE STOP the Wifi Sharing and Wifi Sharing manager, along with Social Hub, and EMail apps/services tomorrow.
Wud be amazing to lose 2% over 8 hours on standby. Awesome.
Screenshot of battery app is at twitpic.com / 7m4b7y
Running Android 2.3.5
Kernel [email protected]#2
Build GINGERBREAD.XXKK3
Good day to you all,
Recently after a small android update (still having version 4.4.2) I noticed the battery was draining faster than I'm used to. Before that, it was consuming roughly 1% per hour in idle. This has changed now to 3-5% per hour. Looking at the battery info I noticed the Android system was the biggest batterysucker here. Not only that, there are even TWO Android systems shown and I began to think there's something wrong here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2908920&stc=1&d=1408796626
Also looking at the wakelocks shows that my phone is barely able to get into sleepmode.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2908921&stc=1&d=1408796626
Before posting this thread I have literally tried every option to see if it could lessen the battery consumption:
- Disabled Google location reporting services
- Disabled GPS
- Disabled Google sync
- Disable Wifi when in Sleep mode
- I don't use Google Now so it's disabled
- Widen the Facebook refresh intervals to 4 hours
- Wiped the cache partition
None of the above worked and I started to think that the second Android system here might be the cause.
Should there be a second Android system consuming battery? What could be the problem here??
JohnnyGui said:
Good day to you all,
Recently after a small android update (still having version 4.4.2) I noticed the battery was draining faster than I'm used to. Before that, it was consuming roughly 1% per hour in idle. This has changed now to 3-5% per hour. Looking at the battery info I noticed the Android system was the biggest batterysucker here. Not only that, there are even TWO Android systems shown and I began to think there's something wrong here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2908920&stc=1&d=1408796626
Also looking at the wakelocks shows that my phone is barely able to get into sleepmode.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2908921&stc=1&d=1408796626
Before posting this thread I have literally tried every option to see if it could lessen the battery consumption:
- Disabled Google location reporting services
- Disabled GPS
- Disabled Google sync
- Disable Wifi when in Sleep mode
- I don't use Google Now so it's disabled
- Widen the Facebook refresh intervals to 4 hours
- Wiped the cache partition
None of the above worked and I started to think that the second Android system here might be the cause.
Should there be a second Android system consuming battery? What could be the problem here??
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Hi ,
is hard to tell with what you show here...get an app like Better Battery Stats
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
Let it run for 3-4 hours and check it , the app will tell tell you what is going on....is the only way to find the real culprit
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Hi ,
is hard to tell with what you show here...get an app like Better Battery Stats
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
Let it run for 3-4 hours and check it , the app will tell tell you what is going on....is the only way to find the real culprit
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Will this app also show the needed info even when my phone isn't rooted? Because I'm really not into rooting it.
JohnnyGui said:
Will this app also show the needed info even when my phone isn't rooted? Because I'm really not into rooting it.
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Hi mate
This is from the thread :
Q:Why installing BBS as a system app as everything works with root?
A: Starting with Kikat BBS has 3 modes: without root a limited mode provides a minimal set of stats. With root the set of stats is complete but some stats (other, partial wakelocks, processes) still use a workaround. Finally with the system app BBS is fully featured without any workaround.
For this cases root is good to have as it gives you a better access to all the process running , try without root and see what kind of info you get
If it's a conciliation, my android (currently on AOSP) is also running two android systems. Not exactly the same name (Android-System and Android-Besturingssysteem), but you get the idea. You mentioned quite a few things you've already tried, but what about existing widgets and or android apps you've installed? Usually (for me anyway) battery drain is an installed app not exactly behaving nicely.
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Hi mate
This is from the thread :
Q:Why installing BBS as a system app as everything works with root?
A: Starting with Kikat BBS has 3 modes: without root a limited mode provides a minimal set of stats. With root the set of stats is complete but some stats (other, partial wakelocks, processes) still use a workaround. Finally with the system app BBS is fully featured without any workaround.
For this cases root is good to have as it gives you a better access to all the process running , try without root and see what kind of info you get
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So does this mean I'm not able to see the exact cause of my wakelocks since my phone isn't rooted?? I have installed Gsam Battery monitor from Google Play, hopefully it will give me (and you guys) the relevant information after keeping my phone on idle for a while.
@Skyrider: The weird thing is that in my case, it DOES display the same name twice. Doesn't that seem weird? I can't see any Android OS (besturingssysteem) displayed.
Also, if I have a battery heavy app, shouldn't it be displayed in the battery info screen as well? I only have the Weather widget and a News widget (NU.nl) on my homescreens. Haven't installed many apps except for Facebook and a few games that barely use background processes.
JohnnyGui said:
So does this mean I'm not able to see the exact cause of my wakelocks since my phone isn't rooted?? I have installed Gsam Battery monitor from Google Play, hopefully it will give me (and you guys) the relevant information after keeping my phone on idle for a while.
@Skyrider: The weird thing is that in my case, it DOES display the same name twice. Doesn't that seem weird? I can't see any Android OS (besturingssysteem) displayed.
Also, if I have a battery heavy app, shouldn't it be displayed in the battery info screen as well? I only have the Weather widget and a News widget (NU.nl) on my homescreens. Haven't installed many apps except for Facebook and a few games that barely use background processes.
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Let us know what you find ....good luck
JohnnyGui said:
The weird thing is that in my case, it DOES display the same name twice. Doesn't that seem weird? I can't see any Android OS (besturingssysteem) displayed.
Also, if I have a battery heavy app, shouldn't it be displayed in the battery info screen as well? I only have the Weather widget and a News widget (NU.nl) on my homescreens. Haven't installed many apps except for Facebook and a few games that barely use background processes.
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In my opinion, that's the problem with the default battery information. In my years of experience, it usually never knows the information that you need what exactly is braining the battery. If your battery is still being drained, I suggest to remove most of your apps. Only for a day orso. It should be enough to gather the information to know that at least one of your apps was the cause of it.
It's a pain to do it. But It always has helped me rather than relying on apps of which usually doesn't work out for me.
Also. Might be a good idea to alter your system language from Dutch to English and check the battery info again to search for the duplicate running system on google. You'd expect "Android System" being enough, but who knows that a different language might show a different name.
Ok, I don't have the slightest idea what happened but my battery duration is amazing now. After installing Gsam Battery Monitor and charging my phone to 100% I went to sleep and after 10 hours of standby I looked at my phone and it was on 93%. My phone doesn't consume more than 0,6-1,0% per hour now in the last 3 days!!
I haven't changed anything except choosing to use Wifi and mobile network for location services but not GPS. Weird thing is that I tried that option before without success.
I'm happy now
I'm still confused about the 2 Android systems in my battery info screen though. That might be a good idea to try @Skyrider but I do remember that "Android OS" was displayed differently in Dutch a while back. I'm guessing you have your phone language in Dutch as well since you're seeing "Android Besturingssysteem" on the battery info screen?
JohnnyGui said:
Ok, I don't have the slightest idea what happened but my battery duration is amazing now. After installing Gsam Battery Monitor and charging my phone to 100% I went to sleep and after 10 hours of standby I looked at my phone and it was on 93%. My phone doesn't consume more than 0,6-1,0% per hour in the last 3 days!!
I haven't changed anything except choosing to use Wifi and mobile network for location services but not GPS. Weird thing is that I did try that option before without success.
I'm happy now
I'm still confused about the 2 Android systems in my battery info screen though. That might be a good idea to try @Skyrider but I do remember that "Android OS" was displayed differently in Dutch a while back. I guess you're having your phone language in Dutch as well since you're seeing "Android Besturingssysteem" on the battery info screen?
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Kudos for the battery mate.
JohnnyGui said:
I'm still confused about the 2 Android systems in my battery info screen though. That might be a good idea to try @Skyrider but I do remember that "Android OS" was displayed differently in Dutch a while back. I'm guessing you have your phone language in Dutch as well since you're seeing "Android Besturingssysteem" on the battery info screen?
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Yea, I'm using the Dutch language. But I'm not using the stock ROM of the phone, so hence I am seeing different systems running in the background. But I'm glad the battery is semi-fixed.
Ok, so I changed my phone to English and behold, one of the "Android Systems" indeed changed to "Android OS"
I could have sworn it was like that when my phone was in Dutch.
Perhaps someone with the stock ROM in Dutch could check that out?
No idea if this helps but i thought might as well contribute what it sais on my phone
Edit : i have a very high idle battery drain so any advice is welcome btw
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Stefan0vic said:
No idea if this helps but i thought might as well contribute what it sais on my phone
Edit : i have a very high idle battery drain so any advice is welcome btw
Sent from my GT-I9505 using XDA Free mobile app
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Thanks a lot for confirming this! I guess Android OS is indeed translated to "System" for Dutch S4's.
Have you tried my suggestions in the opening post?
Just want to add on here for more battery saving tips
Guys I may have found an easy way to curb Google play services or any other spyware app to stop them from doing things like Access location or mobile networks which may further wreck yr battery life There are 2 guides here , Guide 1 (maybe redundant) and guide 2[updated] . if u think one of these guides works better than the other in yr bbs or gsam results, u want to use just only or a combination of both
App: Guide 1(maybe redundant)
LBE security master ( english translation is xposed module, so install that first)
Install and open the app
Go to permissions , Google play services all permissions , location and choose block or prompt
U can do this for WiFi and 3g too
I can also set all apps to prompt this way u know which apps want to access what when not opened . And deny them when they are running in the background . Also u will know if Some apps will access eg. Location when opened .. as o fnow i have made all apps to prompt mode so i can identify which app is running wild,. So far none
this part here may significantly save battery
first get this app : disable service
choose google play services and untick
analystics service
checkin service
NLPlocationreceiverservice
google location service
dispatching service
2) Then using app system tuner
go to google play services - receivers
checkin.checinservices$reciever
checkin.checkinservices$triggerreciever
checkin.checkinservices$tSecretCodeReceiver
checkin.eventlogservices$receiver
update.SystemUpdateService$SecretCodeReceiver
update.SystemUpdateService$Receiver
loginservice.migrateToAccountmanagerBroadcastRecei ver
*After this u wil only see GCM service runing in settings-apps -running
yr apps should work fine using battery saving location type
3) Disable Google syncing , u tick individual items in settings - accounts and sync - yr Google account
4) get greenify paid version
Tick wakeup timer colescaling in experimental features
Update:Guide 2 . this guide here may do all a of the above in a better way
1) install paid version Greenify and latest xposed
2) go to experimental setings and tick "reveal hidden sync"
3) go to phone settings , autosync, clik on yr google account and u will see new options with a *.Now can choose watever u want to be disabled
4) Also u can do the same for Facebook app or any other app with * entries . . U don't need Facebook acting independently . BlinkFeed will update for u the feeds
5) use Disable Service app from the Play store to disable:
Google Play Services
com.google.android.location.reporting.service.Repo rtingSyncService
(ReportingSyncService)
Google Services Framework
com.google.android.gsf.subscribedfeeds.SubscribedF eedsSyncAdapterService
(SubscribedFeedsSyncAdapterService)
here is the screenshot in phone settings for google and facebook example
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Are whatsapp notifications affected?
Hey thanks a lot!Just a couple of doubts. .I dont care about any other push notifications but i use whatsapp a lot so will this affect/delay whatsapp notifications?Secondly,Does the LBE security master come with an english translation coz its all chinese!Thanks again!
balag59 said:
Hey thanks a lot!Just a couple of doubts. .I dont care about any other push notifications but i use whatsapp a lot so will this affect/delay whatsapp notifications?Secondly,Does the LBE security master come with an english translation coz its all chinese!Thanks again!
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For what's app I don't think so .
Lbe security English translation is an xposed module . Look for it in the exposed download section
battery goes down while sleeping
lewonsky said:
For what's app I don't think so .
Lbe security English translation is an xposed module . Look for it in the exposed download section
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Thanks!I implemented everything u said above and also use greenify for most of my apps..But when i go to sleep for 8 hours after switching off data and wifi my battery goes from 100% to 85%. .that isnt normal right?battey stats show that my phone has been in deep sleep for 98% and awake only for 2%. .yet my battery seems to drain at a minimum constant 1.9% per hour. .any advice?Thanks again!Also find a screenshot for reference.
balag59 said:
Thanks!I implemented everything u said above and also use greenify for most of my apps..But when i go to sleep for 8 hours after switching off data and wifi my battery goes from 100% to 85%. .that isnt normal right?battey stats show that my phone has been in deep sleep for 98% and awake only for 2%. .yet my battery seems to drain at a minimum constant 1.9% per hour. .any advice?Thanks again!Also find a screenshot for reference.
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well i think something else is drainign yr vbattery u need to check for kernel wakelocks and apps which have in built in ads constantly pulling data
anyway LBE security has option to block all ads in apps. look for that section and do that
and also in LBE security under 'location: main section put all apps to prompt and see which one is doing something when u never opened it
lewonsky said:
well i think something else is drainign yr vbattery u need to check for kernel wakelocks and apps which have in built in ads constantly pulling data
anyway LBE security has option to block all ads in apps. look for that section and do that
and also in LBE security under 'location: main section put all apps to prompt and see which one is doing something when u never opened it
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ok thanks!I shall do all that. .but after having done everything else my battery life should have improved atleast a little right. .that too being in deep sleep for 98%. .i checked the partial wakelocks and they dont seem to be many. .anyways if you want any other battery stats from my phone that can help you better analyze the issue then i can do that also. .thanks again!
does GPS in Apps and Google+ Location Sharing work properly after doing this`?
darkarvan said:
does GPS in Apps and Google+ Location Sharing work properly after doing this`?
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i tested only google maps and it works , not sure about google + as i dont use it
re-enable the google location manager service if something does not work. I think this service controls the settings- location where u choose the 3 different gps options
edited my first post to reflect this
balag59 said:
ok thanks!I shall do all that. .but after having done everything else my battery life should have improved atleast a little right. .that too being in deep sleep for 98%. .i checked the partial wakelocks and they dont seem to be many. .anyways if you want any other battery stats from my phone that can help you better analyze the issue then i can do that also. .thanks again!
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just realised that yours could be a batery calibration problem ( if on custom kernel )
what rom are u using and the version ? all i know is that some roms/ kernels have a battery bug reporting problem or they have not adjusted to the battery cycle. try to recalibrate the battery . u dnt have to full charge it and drain to zero, just drain to zero a few times around 3x . see how that goes .
lewonsky said:
just realised that yours could be a batery calibration problem ( if on custom kernel )
what rom are u using and the version ? all i know is that some roms/ kernels have a battery bug reporting problem or they have not adjusted to the battery cycle. try to recalibrate the battery . u dnt have to full charge it and drain to zero, just drain to zero a few times around 3x . see how that goes .
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Oh yeah i had the same doubt. .im running paranoid android 4.6 beta and stock kernel. .im doing the calibration now.thanks!Il do that and let you know
Well my battery drains 1.2% per hour when idle.. I'm running Google edition with elemental kernel.. Downclocked to 1.5 GHz and undervolted a little too.. WiFi is always on!
Btw the best I can achieve is 0.8% idle but that's on 1.2 GHz and it's not worth it, things feel kind of slow!
I haven't tested the suggested tweaks, maybe sometime.
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I will suggest the synapses kernel
Better battery life especially during standby or when screen is off
Hi Lewonsky!
Since you seem to know a lot about achieving a better battery life i thought i would take your help if you dont mind.i decided to try out the HTC extreme power saver mode last night since its supposed to disable all syncing of background data and save a lot of battery.And i'm not sure where the problem lies here but it seems to be even more worse with the extreme power saver mode turned on.It's lost 17% during the 8.5 hours i was asleep and for the entire time it was on extreme power saver mode only. .Ive even attached a screenshot below where it indicates that it was in deep sleep for 99% of that time. .taking this into consideration is it really supposed to lose so much battery overnight on extreme power saver mode?any help would be really appreciated thanks!Im on viperone 7.0.1 and stock kernel.I also tried draining my battery to 0% a couple of times as you advised me to calibrate battery. .If you have any other advice or suggestions on how to get a better battery life especially during standby or when screen is off it would be great. .i already am planning to follow that you have mentioned in a couple of threads of yours regarding this. .Thanks again for all the help!
balag59 said:
Hi Lewonsky!
Since you seem to know a lot about achieving a better battery life i thought i would take your help if you dont mind.i decided to try out the HTC extreme power saver mode last night since its supposed to disable all syncing of background data and save a lot of battery.And i'm not sure where the problem lies here but it seems to be even more worse with the extreme power saver mode turned on.It's lost 17% during the 8.5 hours i was asleep and for the entire time it was on extreme power saver mode only. .Ive even attached a screenshot below where it indicates that it was in deep sleep for 99% of that time. .taking this into consideration is it really supposed to lose so much battery overnight on extreme power saver mode?any help would be really appreciated thanks!Im on viperone 7.0.1 and stock kernel.I also tried draining my battery to 0% a couple of times as you advised me to calibrate battery. .If you have any other advice or suggestions on how to get a better battery life especially during standby or when screen is off it would be great. .i already am planning to follow that you have mentioned in a couple of threads of yours regarding this. .Thanks again for all the help!
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I have noticed the extreme power saver is buggy in 4.4.3 Rom . At times it didn't turn off the data . So I have reverted to 4.4.2 5.11.661.8 Rom . This is the only version according to me in which extreme power saver node works correctly .
Try reflashing the firmware
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I have noticed the extreme power saver is buggy in 4.4.3 Rom . At times it didn't turn off the data . So I have reverted to 4.4.2 5.11.661.8 Rom . This is the only version according to me in which extreme power saver node works correctly .
Try reflashing the firmware
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Thanks!Currently im on a 4.4.2 based firmware only. .5.12.707.105. .the latest Indian firmware based on 4.4.2. .only my rom(viperone 7.0.1) is 4.4.3 based. .so what do u suggest i do?Also my battery seems to drain 10-15% overnight in 8 hours after switching off wifi and mobile data. .Is there some other problem here?My standby battery life seems really bad.
balag59 said:
Thanks!Currently im on a 4.4.2 based firmware only. .5.12.707.105. .the latest Indian firmware based on 4.4.2. .only my rom(viperone 7.0.1) is 4.4.3 based. .so what do u suggest i do?Also my battery seems to drain 10-15% overnight in 8 hours after switching off wifi and mobile data. .Is there some other problem here?My standby battery life seems really bad.
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I am using 5.11 Rom. Try that . It's the telsus Rom released months ago . My device seems to like this Rom best
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I am using 5.11 Rom. Try that . It's the telsus Rom released months ago . My device seems to like this Rom best
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So do you want me to change my firmware?Also i wanna keep using the viperone rom. .Any way i can check first if its a problem with my battery?I first want to confirm that there is nothing wrong with my battery so that i can try other things. .any ideas on how i can check that?
balag59 said:
So do you want me to change my firmware?Also i wanna keep using the viperone rom. .Any way i can check first if its a problem with my battery?I first want to confirm that there is nothing wrong with my battery so that i can try other things. .any ideas on how i can check that?
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sometiems rom and firmware xcombination may cause problems but very rarely unless there is a bug with the firmware released by HTC
the battery i think uneed to input some codes in the dialer it will shhow u battery health .
anyway not sure how reliable is that.
try to change roms and see if the battery still behaves that way.
lewonsky said:
sometiems rom and firmware xcombination may cause problems but very rarely unless there is a bug with the firmware released by HTC
the battery i think uneed to input some codes in the dialer it will shhow u battery health .
anyway not sure how reliable is that.
try to change roms and see if the battery still behaves that way.
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Ok thanks!Will keeping in flight mode overnight help?If i do keep it in flight mode for 8 hours how much battery should i ideally lose?
balag59 said:
Ok thanks!Will keeping in flight mode overnight help?If i do keep it in flight mode for 8 hours how much battery should i ideally lose?
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I don't know. But try to use the firmware Intended for yr device like 6.13.707.1 . I just flashed it. Avoid the European firmware,, in my opinion it doesn't work well on Asian devices and causes a bit of battery drain.