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Good news and bad news
Good news: Just been into Carphone Warehouse. And discovered Talk Mobile do a tariff. 12 month, £30/month, 400 mins, texts and Unlimited data with no fair usage limit. Handset £179. That in my eyes is a cracking deal.
Bad news: Handset looks nice, but has the ergonomics of a shoe box. Does not feel nice in the hand at all. Compared to my HD2. I maybe use to how my fone feels, but the edges just felt too square.
Also i tested both phones on moneysavingexpert.com homepage. The colours were perfect on the SG2. HD2 colours looked washed out. But I was testing clarity of the small letters. Both were identical. Iphone 4 is the yardstick for this and it fails.
So im passing on this and waiting for the HTC Sensation. The look and feel is paramount, u cant touch memory, so shouldnt miss it too much.
SG2= ergonomic fail.
I want to view pages without having to zoom all the time and read pdfs. Nice phone but no cigar, this time
Sorry.
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to each its own. I couldnt stand my hd2 after having my galaxy s for a year. But it comes down to persoal preference. Im pretty sure theres some happy people enjoying there devices.
I agree. Nothing wrong with the phone, I just have a specific requirement to be able to use service manual pdf's on the move so i dont have to dig out the laptop.
Dont wanna troll. Just thought people who havent handled one yet maybe interested.
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Having just upgraded from a HD2 yesterday I don't agree at all - the Galaxy S II feels a lot nicer in the hand. However, thanks to it's plastic construction, there is no doubt it feels less sturdy than HTC's offering. I get the impression that, despite the Gorilla Glass, one drop of this thing onto a hard surface would lead to a world of hurt. I'm not saying that is definitely the case but it feels that way.
I have a FlexiShield skin on order and I will feel a lot more comfortable once my phone is in it. I bought one for my HD2 18 months ago when I first got it and it saved it from at least a couple of drops. Superb cover.
On a side note, is anyone going to bother with a screen protector? I have never had a Gorilla Glass phone before so don't know the likelihood of it scratching. I much prefer touch-screen phones with no protector but for obvious reasons it's not a good idea.
lots of people aren't bothering with ascreen protector. they bring a good point that... anything that can scratch the gorilla glass will probably pass through any screen protector anyway. having said that... i'm getting one. i have one for my GS as well.
as for the GS II i just may not put it on yet
I like the shape of the sgs 2, very thin and light makes it ideal shape.
Yeah, we really needed to know this. Nobody is forcing you to buy anyone phone so if you don't like this one there is no need to run home, jump on the interwebz and make a thread on the forum about it.
I hope you like which ever phone you do get.
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Having just upgraded from a HD2 yesterday I don't agree at all - the Galaxy S II feels a lot nicer in the hand. However, thanks to it's plastic construction, there is no doubt it feels less sturdy than HTC's offering. I get the impression that, despite the Gorilla Glass, one drop of this thing onto a hard surface would lead to a world of hurt. I'm not saying that is definitely the case but it feels that way.
I have a FlexiShield skin on order and I will feel a lot more comfortable once my phone is in it. I bought one for my HD2 18 months ago when I first got it and it saved it from at least a couple of drops. Superb cover.
On a side note, is anyone going to bother with a screen protector? I have never had a Gorilla Glass phone before so don't know the likelihood of it scratching. I much prefer touch-screen phones with no protector but for obvious reasons it's not a good idea.
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Dropped my SGS multiple times on hard flooring, concrete and Asphalt and despite thinking one drop and it was a goner the thing doesn't have a scratch on the screen, body still looks new and works perfectly. I wonder if the SGS II is the same way but I will not be dropping it anytime soon to find out.
I love my Galaxy SII but it seems that you might be better off with a 7in tablet such as the Galaxy Tab or maybe a bigger tablet such as the Advent Vega or iPad.
I personally couldn't read PDFs on a screen smaller than 7in for very long.
This is good info for me. Nexus One owner and I sported an HD2 for a few weeks and loved the feel and size, knowing it had the dimensions of my next phone (G2x was a failure for me).
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Good news and bad news
Good news: Just been into Carphone Warehouse. And discovered Talk Mobile do a tariff. 12 month, £30/month, 400 mins, texts and Unlimited data with no fair usage limit. Handset £179. That in my eyes is a cracking deal.
Bad news: Handset looks nice, but has the ergonomics of a shoe box. Does not feel nice in the hand at all. Compared to my HD2. I maybe use to how my fone feels, but the edges just felt too square.
Also i tested both phones on moneysavingexpert.com homepage. The colours were perfect on the SG2. HD2 colours looked washed out. But I was testing clarity of the small letters. Both were identical. Iphone 4 is the yardstick for this and it fails.
So im passing on this and waiting for the HTC Sensation. The look and feel is paramount, u cant touch memory, so shouldnt miss it too much.
SG2= ergonomic fail.
I want to view pages without having to zoom all the time and read pdfs. Nice phone but no cigar, this time
Sorry.
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OP must have small hands, and you know what they say!
Small hands...........
Small gloves...
yeh I know what your on about I went from iPhone 4 to gs2 and text is so hard to read with no reflow option, but I gain so much more with customization, and the weight is great, the iPhone feels like such a brick now.
in saying that I had a hd2 and really missed it after I got the iPhone, thought I could get that feeling back with the sgs2 but it's not the same hd2 is a quality product.
enjoy your sensation and thanks for being honest in the lions den lol
i do agree with the [OP] regarding the "ergonomic fail" thing.
..and this is coming from a Samsung phone fanatic like me
personally, i don't like at all the shell design of the SGS2, i'll definitely not use the SGS2 naked, it looks simply disgusting... seriously, for the lack of a better word to describe its design.
unfortunately i love all the technology packed inside that "disgusting" shell so is either take it or leave it, and i choose to take it
so the ergonomic fail became a non issue for me, as i'll be replacing the case, and using with a protection case, and other accessories i always slap onto all of my phones; i praise the after market accessories people to make the impossible possible
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personally, i don't like at all the shell design of the SGS2, i'll definitely not use the SGS2 naked, it looks simply disgusting... seriously, for the lack of a better word to describe its design.
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Disgusting? Seriously? Dear me, it takes all sorts I guess and the world would be a boring place if we all had the same opinions.
IMO: I like very much the design, I can hold it in one hand and even type with one hand, it holds perfectly in my right hand... Even ergonomically I like it. It's simply perfect for me.
It's up to you to choose another phone. I would never choose another now. Especially HTC sensation which have many things less than Galaxy S2.
+10 I find the design very nice unlike some here
And I would never change it for nothing on the market that's just a piece of beauty, a very thin piece actually
What I don't understand is the point of this topic ? If you feel it not as you want anyone else could feel it in the hand differently like me. And many peeps have already said they like the feel in the hand in this thread so your opinion can't be taken for facts until someone interested in it hold it for real :/ anyway...
Pitching in on the ergonomics of the device being awesome, for me anyway. If you have really small hands then this will probably be a pretty bad phone for you, since it wont fit comfortably into a normal grip. That aside, for people with average or large hands, this design works very well. You can keep a very firm grip on it easily, and one handed operation works too, all while having a 4.3" screen.
Not sure about the people saying it feels cheap or anything, unless you correlate cheap with light - because it's very light. If this is the case, you can buy a nice big heavy cover for the device to make it feel heavier and sturdier - but that seems really stupid to me. A phone is meant to be mobile, the lighter the better.
Phones won't be perfect until they're razor thin, bendable, and weight as much as paper! And the SGS2 is firmly on the right track.
To me I'm loving everything about the phone, ergonomics included. I don't have huge hands but find the phone very easy to hold and use for one handed operation.
As for a screen protector I will say a big NO. I work for a Verizon retailer and we have a demo line hooked up to their version of the first galaxy s, the fascinate, that also has gorilla glass. Being inquisitive and it being a demo line, I decided to test the durability of gorilla glass. Grabbed a phillips head screw driver and preceded to try and scratch the screen. Repeatedly I scraped it, scratched back and forth quickly, and somewhat violently tried to stab it. Wiped off the screen with a micro-fiber cloth and not one scratch or mark on it, gorilla glass is really some remarkable stuff.
I'm not saying its impossible to damage it, but it will take some serious effort. Since most of you guys probably take care of your phones anyway, with gorilla glass your screen will be fine. A screen protector on gorilla glass just seems redundant .
Problem is... the old galaxy didn't have an oleophobic coating. You try taking a screwdriver to that and the coating WILL come off. The screen will be resilient, but not the coating, sorry.
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To me I'm loving everything about the phone, ergonomics included. I don't have huge hands but find the phone very easy to hold and use for one handed operation.
As for a screen protector I will say a big NO. I work for a Verizon retailer and we have a demo line hooked up to their version of the first galaxy s, the fascinate, that also has gorilla glass. Being inquisitive and it being a demo line, I decided to test the durability of gorilla glass. Grabbed a phillips head screw driver and preceded to try and scratch the screen. Repeatedly I scraped it, scratched back and forth quickly, and somewhat violently tried to stab it. Wiped off the screen with a micro-fiber cloth and not one scratch or mark on it, gorilla glass is really some remarkable stuff.
I'm not saying its impossible to damage it, but it will take some serious effort. Since most of you guys probably take care of your phones anyway, with gorilla glass your screen will be fine. A screen protector on gorilla glass just seems redundant .
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At the end of the day, apart from it going dark. I entered the store but left
The HD2 is such a class act to follow, it's replacement has a to be nearly as iconic.
And only then will I splash the cash.
We are all Android fanboi's so whatever we rock is cool.
I was reading a book on my spiffy new 10.1 and it slipped off my lap... 20" or so on to the tile floor. Just enough to flip it on its screen. BTW, the tile won
Now to wait until they ship the tab officially, and hopefully a replacement screen is available.
Totally bummed out.
20" is noting. even regular sodalime glass should be able to survive that. that is very disappointing to hear!.
Doesnt look like gorilla glass to me!
Whenever I see Gorilla glass strength demonstrated, it is always using impacts on the front of it. Not on the edges. This tablet looks like it landed on it's edge where the glass is weakest.
Also, Samsung advertises "Easy Grip" as a feature of the tablet. I'm hoping that is just something the Galaxy Tab IO Edition is missing, because it sounds like people that have that tablet have grip problems.
FWIW.. you can probably replace the front glass only (from what it looks like). As far as I recall.. the front glass/touch panel is not bonded to the LCD.
The slipperiness gets a mention here too. http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2385353,00.asp
I've had the 10.1 since I/O and have had no "slippery" problems. Don't know how you guys are holding it, or not paying attention when you have a 10.1 inch tablet that's worth over $600~ in your lap or hands, but I'm a little bit more attentive.
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I've had the 10.1 since I/O and have had no "slippery" problems. Don't know how you guys are holding it, or not paying attention when you have a 10.1 inch tablet that's worth over $600~ in your lap or hands, but I'm a little bit more attentive.
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Way to kick a guy when he's down....and just lost his irreplaceable tablet. Have a heart man.
ouch.. that sucks, dude. I feel for you. I sure hope you can repair it.
Damn, after the video on youtube of the Russian guy beating the hell out of the tablet, You'd think it would survive a 20" fall.
Maybe if you email Samsung, they may take pity on you. Besides, it would be good for their image.
I knew it wasn't gorilla glass before i bought it, but i read the ifixit teardown and it seems people think its gorilla glass 1... its not.
Anyway, i broke my screen. very easily, i might add - set something on it, which i unfortunately do all the time with my transformer p, but anyway,
does anyone have replacement screens for sale yet? or anywhere can get it fixed? i love it, but at $200, not quite disposable priced yet.
Thanks everyone
.....and please don't say ebay.
should I post this in Q&A instead?
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should I post this in Q&A instead?
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You should've but not any more as I've just moved your thread.
thanks.
so, anyone here see replacement screens anywhere yet?
With a product this new it is going to be awhile sorry bud
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After I shed a tear for you and your now broken toy I looked around online and didn't see anything yet either.
I'm sure there will eventually be some for purchase but as the other post said it's really early in the game.
Who sets things on top of their tablet anyways?
dumb arseholes like me who got spoiled by the indestructible transformer prime. I use it for work as a book and paper replacement, so I always put stacks of paper or books on it like its one of them. the nexus, I had the stylus on it, then put books on top of that, and it cracked it like a rock was thrown at it.
I feel nothing but shame and embarrassment
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dumb arseholes like me who got spoiled by the indestructible transformer prime. I use it for work as a book and paper replacement, so I always put stacks of paper or books on it like its one of them. the nexus, I had the stylus on it, then put books on top of that, and it cracked it like a rock was thrown at it.
I feel nothing but shame and embarrassment
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Ok ok, it makes a little more sense now, just books and paperwork... I was hoping you weren't using it to rest power tools or something on it. That stylus is what really got it I'm sure, bummer.
I'll keep an eye out (as I'm sure you will too) for replacement screens.
Is it even usable in the meantime?
its usable, except where the crack point is, there is no film or anything so that spot has like little shards of glass that get in your finger. but its still amazingly responsive and useable,I guess if I kept it flat and used capacitive gloves or put a film sheet protector over it.
and yes, the shatter point was the rear end of the stylus, the pocket-clip one. its a metal bamboo one, so oddly, the quality is what did it. I'm sure a cheap plastic one would have survived my screen!
May I ask the quantity of papers or books that was placed on top to cause the damage?
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dumb arseholes like me who got spoiled by the indestructible transformer prime. I use it for work as a book and paper replacement, so I always put stacks of paper or books on it like its one of them. the nexus, I had the stylus on it, then put books on top of that, and it cracked it like a rock was thrown at it.
I feel nothing but shame and embarrassment
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Just a warning. While Gorilla Glass is very scratch resistant, it's not indestructible or really any less prone to cracking than regular glass.
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Who sets things on top of their tablet anyways?
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I do all the time on the iPad 2.. Pen/stylus with paper documents on top. Heck, my (merely) 20-pound dogs even walk and play on it (with a screen protector of course, and a film on the back). No problems at all. This is quite shocking. Thanks for the warning. I'll remember to keep it out of harm's way.
yes, with the transformer,I barely give it any thought, its just one of the books. iPads seem able to handle this just fine too, its what everyone else has around here. it was just second nature to handle the nexus the same, and, well, lesson learned.
it wasn't anything ridiculous, maybe about 3 inches, about 2 inches of folders and papers and one code book maybe an inch in height. nothing crazy! just the pen caused a stress point for the weight I suspect, and poor nexus couldn't handle it
So I cracked my screen juggling to many things in my hands(phone energy drink, keys, ecig etc) tablet slipped right out of my hand. Funny thing is I am not even upset. I am usually OCD about cracks, I have $500 balance on this via T-Mobile EIP, got rid of jump so I am essentially screwed. Touch screen is fully working so it's still usable. I wonder how much Samsung will charge me to send it in for repair. May just sell it and make put it towards EIP plus make big payments. Idk. It really sucks but what can you do. Glass breaks, Samsung build quality sucks and so much more important things in life to worry about. Maybe this is a sign I should get the nexus 9. After all HTC is known for build quality and even though it's not likely going to be aluminum due to Nexus wireless charging I have a sneaking suspicion it will be miles ahead of anything Samsung produce anytime soon.
Anyone else rocking a cracked screen or repaired it either yourself or by Samsung/3rd party repair shop?
@md1008 feel for you mate and everyone else that this happens too.
There is a dissasembly thread few pages down in the "Help and Troubleshooting section".
From what I have gathered is that it will cost about $200 for Samsung to fix but its impossible to do yourself....here is a comment from shart from that exact thread kinda explains it well tbh....
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So I have a p600 (Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 Ed) and I dropped it on the corner. shattered the digitizer. I bought a new Digitizer and in the process of repairing it learned the hard way that it is next to impossible to separate the Digitizer from the LCD. Bottom line is that I now need a replacement LCD for my tablet now also. FYI, there is a Gummy adhesive, much like industrial rubber glue between the digitizer and the LCD and the surface adhesion is too great to separate the two without damaging the LCD, try as you might it's next to impossible.
For the Sake of science I have just busted my tablet. I blame nobody but myself in this mess, but let it be a lesson learned for everyone else after me.
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Yeah I am too clumsy for self repair. Samsung quoted me 260 I believe. Really think I will wait to see what Nexus 9 brings to the table and price range. I wish Samsung would release a successor to the note 8.0 so far I have not read anything. Seems Samsung is mostly focused on their "tab" series
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Yeah I am too clumsy for self repair. Samsung quoted me 260 I believe. Really think I will wait to see what Nexus 9 brings to the table and price range. I wish Samsung would release a successor to the note 8.0 so far I have not read anything. Seems Samsung is mostly focused on their "tab" series
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Yep, the screen is the most expensive in tablet or cell phone. Currently Ebay is selling $200 for the screen assembly, $140 for Hong Kong made and you have to do it yourself. The price for the note 10.1 2014 is dropping fast so it's not worth to repair. Save your money for the Nexus 9 would be the right choice....
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Yeah I am too clumsy for self repair. Samsung quoted me 260 I believe. Really think I will wait to see what Nexus 9 brings to the table and price range. I wish Samsung would release a successor to the note 8.0 so far I have not read anything. Seems Samsung is mostly focused on their "tab" series
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Not worth paying 260 ... thats crazy. I'd jist keep using it as its only on the corner and see what your options are with the newer tablets and then either try give it a go yasel or just sell it on ebay or do what my brother did with his cracked Blackberry Tablet ... he put on a screen protector on (mind you there was no glass or sharp bits anyway) and gave it to his 3 year old kid to play games with haha.
I will probably put a screen protector the cracks spread through the whole screen. The thing that sucks is that it's the spen why I bought this bloody screen and using spen on cracked screen is not ideal. Otherwise I would never buy Samsung. I hate touchwiz(unless on note) and I hate even more how cheap Samsung products feel(they got better and the note 4 did have some praise in early review)
Personally I think on the original note they gave it a more premium build with crappy specs where as on this bad boy they cut cost and gave it the best specs(at that time) the og Note 10.1 I feel had an all round better build to it
http://m.yelp.com/biz/lord-of-the-phones-san-diego-9
These guys quoted me at $190 and have excellent yelp reviews. I think I may go with it.
Try putting a glass screen protector on it.
md1008 said:
http://m.yelp.com/biz/lord-of-the-phones-san-diego-9
These guys quoted me at $190 and have excellent yelp reviews. I think I may go with it.
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Well if you tried a DIY job then I think if you buy a digitizer it will cost you about $50 and then probs $30 for delivery. So about $100 for labour isnt bad considering its a bigger job than I initally thought tbh.
Reading more and more it does seem like Samsung have made it impossible for an average joe to fix. And then atleast you have a tablet back.
I guess only you really know if its worth the cost for you or not. If I were you I'd wait and see what stuff is coming up and then put the $190 towards a newer tablet.
Anyhoo hope it works out whatever you do mate.
Yeah kinda what I am thinking, what sucks is I have a $500 left on this. I think I may go with it. I don't care about tablet specs as much as phones. I would have kept the original note 10.1 if it the software didn't such so bad. I figure if something did come around that is better I would get more money back if the screen is not cracked. Making the $200 lost almost a wash. I know no matter what I am getting an Otterbox. I know you drop tablets they break but I believe if was more durable the damage would be far less
Yeah cases do provide some protection for falls not sure how much protection my Official BookCover provides. What case did you have on it ... Can't tell what type of case it is from the picture you uploaded.
Its a generic case from eBay. I actually hated it, somehow when it was in the case I often couldn't use external buttons like power, home, or the menu/back. Pie solved the problem.
Looked on eBay and it doesn't look like a cracked note would get me much money so repair it is!
Put a screen protector on and although it's more usable smooth glass surface it actually looks worst. The glass shards and uneveness causes bubbles worst is that I had to keep reapplying the screen protector because of stupid glass shards causing dust and dirt make it's way inside
Oooooh I didnt realise that the cracks went along the entire screen, having the screen protector on really showed the extent of the damage blimey its bad. Yeah thats in no usable condition tbh I genuinly thought it was just the top right hand side that was damaged, aye a guess $190 to have your tablet back isnt too bad.
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Well today I bought an otterbox until I can afford $ to get it repaired. Comes with a screen protector which illuminates air bubbles plus I feel like if it drops it won't crack even more or at least will crack less. When the screen is lit up either with color or black its not noticeable, but when the screen is white it's an absolute eye sore. Does add significant weight. Add bulk but nothing unreasonable.
Here is white background, even worst browsing internet
As you see with dark colors the cracks blend right in
Also Walmart online(and only online they won't match prices) has this on sale for less than $45 with tax.
http://mobile.walmart.com/ip/OtterB...b370202264b6f&veh=aff&wmlspartner=lw9MynSeamY
It's not an impossible or an expensive repair, really. Just takes a bit of patience to get it apart and back together, so as not to cause more damage than ya started with!
Samsung made such a beautiful phone; almost as nice as the note 7 IMO, and they focus so much on a nice screen but then they make a very very thin back glass that seems to crack way to easy. In my opinion they need to ditch the back glass and make it aluminum or something of that nature. I have had my s8+ for less than a week and today i was testing out my vr and i set down the head set kind of hard onto my couch where my remote was. It was no more than a 6 inch drop and the back glass ended up cracking. I am the least bit thrilled about it. Opinions?
Grab a dbrand.com skin and apply it on the back. You'll totally forget the glass is cracked
Is Dbrands the best out there? and why? I see there are a ton of different kinds so im curiour
You lost all credibility at "almost as nice as the note 7"
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You lost all credibility at "almost as nice as the note 7"
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Doesn't have the spen, so....
Check your local samsung store, last time i checked for the S7E the price to switch back glass was $50. Who knows if its the same price on the S8.
The note 7 was by far the greatest phone i have ever used. Do not get me wrong, the S8+ is amazing and is probably the best phone out ATM but the note 7 was my favorite phone i have ever used due to a variety of reasons
Yeah there was something about the Note 7 that's missing.
Probably the fingerprint reader being on the back for starters.
And the glass back is to stay for wireless charging.
Would you rather a plastic back? Eww!
This is coming tomorrow!
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XTQKJY8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I like to change cases, a LOT. A skin limits the options.
cpufrost said:
Yeah there was something about the Note 7 that's missing.
Probably the fingerprint reader being on the back for starters.
And the glass back is to stay for wireless charging.
Would you rather a plastic back? Eww!
This is coming tomorrow!
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XTQKJY8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I like to change cases, a LOT. A skin limits the options.
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Nice choice I was going to purchase that but instead I have something very similar coming from China. Expecting it anyday as its landed in the UK Friday.
Always nice to have a thin sleek case that you can still feel the quality of the phones design.
I have it and it's a great case. Definitely not going to protect the front in a front down fall on concrete. That's what the Speck Presidio grip is for! When I'm not trail riding, trimming trees, etc. this case is perfect. Feels naked with a nice grip. And unlike the slim TPUs it doesn't feel like it's falling off when your fingers go past the curved edges of the screen. I think this is why Diztronic recalled theirs.