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Got this today and it's significantly shorter than the screen (3/16"). Any other owners - is this normal? Expected it to be a flush fit.
Anyone? I know people have them - they were recommended on here repeatedly. Thanks in advance.
Havn't got mine yet. Their US site was backordered so I ordered from across seas. It should be here some time this week though.
I recently got boxwave protector.
Quite good and smooth under the stylus.
funny, i've had a few and they alway fit perfectly. perhaps take a picture of the fit and email them, and post the pic and their response here for reference.
well, i've had a few on the 3.5" devices, none for the 2.8" so its been a few years since i've had one i guess
This is funny because I thought the same thing and was really really angry. But it actually fits perfectly. I think you made the same mistake I did by sliding it too far up (going underneath the front housing) causing it to be too short and not fit right. If you line up the screen protector perfectly with the screen it should fit perfectly. Look at the piece you peeled it off from and compare it to the size of the screen and you will see what I mean.
I ordered another one because it wasn't too good after i took it off the first one. Hope this helps.
Expert Shield screen protectors are just as good and are half the price.
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kpaznb0i said:
This is funny because I thought the same thing and was really really angry. But it actually fits perfectly. I think you made the same mistake I did by sliding it too far up (going underneath the front housing) causing it to be too short and not fit right. If you line up the screen protector perfectly with the screen it should fit perfectly. Look at the piece you peeled it off from and compare it to the size of the screen and you will see what I mean.
I ordered another one because it wasn't too good after i took it off the first one. Hope this helps.
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kp's got it right. i think OP slid the protector under the top frame of the screen. i made this mistake the first time i put in this screen protector too after positioning it correctly, it fits perfectly.
great screen protector btw. WAY better than the OEM one.
I have gone through many different screen protectors over the years, and I have one thing to say about all of them - none of them hold a candle to Martin Fields.
Every one I have bought on eBay have made my screen look grainy, for lack of a better word. It's like looking through a screen door. Only MF protectors look, and act, like the actual screen. It's like they are completely invisible. It is most noticable when you turn your phone on in the dark.
Yes, $25 for two of them is kinda spendy, but WELL worth the money. They are easy to apply and reusable. Wash them under the faucet, let dry, and reuse it. All the other ones are one use only (despite their claims).
I just received my screen protector from NuShield and I have to say I am extremely impressed with them. It comes in a pack of 3 for $11.99 and they are not adhesive. They fit perfectly, you dont have to worry about air bubbles, and the clarity is very good. You can get clear of anti-glare. I got the clear ones and once they are on you cant really tell they are there. The only thing negative I have to say about it is that it is a little tricky to install, but once I figured out the proper way to do install the protector it was easy. I would definitely recommend this as an alternative to adhesive screens.
Has anyone used one of these protectors in combination with one of the cubes floating around?
any issues (eg loss of sensitivity/harder to get touchflo to respond etc..)??
I completely agree with Lidberg. The Martin Fields is the best screen protector I've used to date. I had a couple pieces of lint/hair get on it during installation. I peeled it back up, took a piece of tape, pulled the lint/hair off the protector and placed it back down with no issue or bubbles. It has no effect on the touch screen either. Great product!
Well I ordered my Martin Fields on January 7 and it's still not here... blah. I'll give my 2 cents soon... hopefully...
So I've tested a few screen protectors:
The Invisishield
Martin Fields
Expert Shield
Invisishield IMO is VERY clear very easy to apply, NO BUBBLES!!! it's just very VERY grippy and is a PITA to use with your fingers.
Martin Fields and Expert Shield all in all are basically the same IMO same clarity, they have about the same degree of difficulty to put on (which isn't hard but harder than the Invisishield) and they are cut perfectly
The Expert Shield costs less, but is much harder to find, it took me a LONG time to find the expert shield for the kaiser =/
I also compared the Martian Fields and Expert Shield on my SE W810i with same results as the one for the Kaiser
IMO Martin Fields of the Expert Shield you can't go wrong with either
Well finally got my Martin Fields today and let me just say if there was ever a more difficult screen protector to put on, the manufacturer should be in court.
With that said it fits and feels great, and looks pretty darn good. I can tell it's there (just because I stared at it) but it looks pretty nice.
Daemos said:
The Expert Shield costs less, but is much harder to find, it took me a LONG time to find the expert shield for the kaiser =/
I also compared the Martian Fields and Expert Shield on my SE W810i with same results as the one for the Kaiser
IMO Martin Fields of the Expert Shield you can't go wrong with either
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I agree. Good review.
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Expert Shield screen protectors are just as good and are half the price.
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I'm going to call up T-Mobile today and ask for a new G1.
The lower right corner of the screen is VERY squeaky. It's really loud, and you can feel it squeak when you press around the bottom right 30% of the screen.
The problem is the bottom right corner is being sucked up against the "chin" of the phone. Pulling it away just a milimeter gets rid of the squeak. There is, however, no easy fix unless I want to take sandpaper and start sanding away around the joints.
I'm currious how many other people are having this problem. I've read of a couple of people having it, but I thought I poll would be a decent way to see if it's wide-spread or just a select few devices.
diy-creak-fix
I returned my first one with no problems at all. but if you can't theres a fix here
http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f10/diy-creak-fix-4596/
I got my g1 yesterday... I f'n love it! But the screen does squeak a lil when pressed on and also my screen is not really aligned right when I open the phone to use the keyboard but its really not that noticeable...
Forgive me for being skeptical, but I wonder if you guys are pressing too hard on your screen? Mine only squeaks if I really push on it.
I've found I barely need to touch the screen to get it to respond. If you had the Wing or other WinMo phone, you're probably used to pressing much harder. You shouldn't have to with this phone, it's built to respond to the slightest touch.
Or at least that's my experience. If it's bothering you, by all means get a new phone. Perhaps it's a dual problem, perhaps the screen isn't as responsive, and thus you're forced to press harder and that makes it squeak. Best of luck, guys.
The creaking problem appears to be isolated to the black g1s due to a small plastic lip on the chin where the screen meets the chin. I haven't seen the black in person but pictures show that it is more of a matte finish as opposed to a glossy finish for the bronze. I have the bronze g1 and the chin has this extra piece of plastic but due to it having a glossy finish, it doesn't creak..it slides smootly when pressing the screen corner.
The fix above works!
I was sceptical, but I took an exacto and shave just a little off. I thought it wouldn't hurt. Well it worked perfect and not a squeek to be found even when pressing or sliding. Can't beleive that little flash of modeling makes so much noise. Thanks for the fix.
By the way I had a black G1
Jcostanza4
No, and I'm rockin the bronze; but on an unrelated/semirelated note
The plastic on this screen is like a magnet for finger juices.
Not slick like glass, it has a plasticy feel that makes me miss the original screenplastic that covered it.
and if you have the ToddlerLock and hand it to a kid - what the eff - Grease City, USA.
I have to clean this more often than on my wing, and it's not the simple huhhhuhh/wipe - it's a cloth or shirt with windex or spit.
(yeah I lick my screen and wipe with tshirt to clean it. Hope it doesn't void the warranty)
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(yeah I lick my screen and wipe with tshirt to clean it. Hope it doesn't void the warranty)
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Sounds like normal moisture exposure to me.
lol.
humble said:
I returned my first one with no problems at all. but if you can't theres a fix here
http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f10/diy-creak-fix-4596/
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This was an ingenious fix! Worked for me! The screen still moves but no sqeaks!!
I've heard reports of this but mine is dead silent when I push on it. In fact it doesn't even have any give, it's just solid against the phone. I must have just gotten lucky. Mine's black by the way.
Sometimes I hear it, sometimes I don't. Unlike everyone else, I don't see this as a big deal.
if you dont consider it a big deal, then you havent heard one really squeak yet. I have had people ask me what that f-ing noise is when I am talking on the phone. Just rubbing against my face it squeaks...LOUD. My friends black makes no noise, mine is a nightmare
squeeky here
I have had 2 g1 phones, both squeeked
I tried the razor blade trick and it seemed to help a little.
Two G1s and put a file to it - and no more squeek. Finally lol. That was annoying. And the girlfriend has a white one - no squeek. That part isnt there.
humble said:
I returned my first one with no problems at all. but if you can't theres a fix here
http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f10/diy-creak-fix-4596/
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i used an little blade to shave it right off
worked perfectly
i had called tmobile to ask them to replace it but they said they cant do anything about it
so i took matters into my own hands
did it in less than 30 seconds and pressed as hard as i could and didnt heard a squeek at all
I have a white g1 and the creaking sounds are pushing me that much i feel like selling up th problem is i got my phone new from ebay so i dont think i can send it back also when the phone is open the screen is not alingend this is horrible and i cant help but notice it is there any fix for that problem?
no squeaky for me!
White G1 here.
My G1 is super sqeeky. I have had it replaced 3 times for various screen problems.... every one I have had seems to squeek. Just tried the razor trick... Didn't seem to help. Oh well.... doesn't bother me That much. Embrace your sqeeks.
Man... the squeek didn't even bother me till I actually read this thread and paid attention to it
yes same here!
probably it is a HTC production problem
Would having a thicker screen protector allow us to make the screen more flush to the trim? I have read that the screen is only recessed 1mm. It seems that we could easily compensate for that with a protector, essentially making the screen flush already?
Is the screen further recessed than I have read--and has anyone had issues hitting the screen perimeters? Scroll bars, X/OK, start menus, outter letters on on-screen keyboards... et al?
I want this (the x1a) to be my next phone, and I think I can deal with the screen, but I would like to make it as close to my original Touch as possible--which has the best recessed touchscreen I have ever used. I can easily hit all the extremities, and scroll, and when I draw on the screen using the Notes application, I can easily draw to all the borders, using my thumb.
With the speediness of this phones rotation, I worry less about the on-screen keyboard, but I find myself wanting to use it a lot... like, for quick messages, and entering data into programs, like a web browser. I use the hardware keyboard for longer emails, texts, or modifying documents.
How has the recessed screen affected you guys?
makes it more difficult to be a one hand touch phone. you need to use the stylus to make selections more accurate. im always using a stylus anyways but it would be a better phone if the screen wasnt recessed.
Well sometimes it is indeed an annoyance but not really all that great. For multiple reasons though. I'm often having hard time using controls on the borders with my finger, I found out it's better to just kind of push at the border itself and thus let only part of the finger on the screen than trying to push it in the border and selecting something farther from the border. Furthermore it makes the screen harder to clean.
Also I've noticed reduced sensitivity around the borders even using the stylus (in Pocket Artist to be exact), is this normal? I have to push a bit more to draw, etc.
However, I can imagine a flush screen wouldn't really fit the design of the phone
Wow, these comments are very disconcerning to me... If the screen is annoying to use, and they keyboard is not as good as the Pro, then why would anyone pay 3x the price to get this instead? I took my Pro back because the Sprint model overheats--the AT&T model has crappy GPS, that AT&T locked down...
I really like what I see in the X1, but if critical WM functions are hard to use without a stylus then that would be a deal-killer for me
to me, i dont think the phone is worth the 800 i paid because i kind of was expecting more. a phone that is an all in one for me. phone, wifi, browse, tethering..... and compact.
dont get me wrong, it does all that i want so far but i think the screen is a little to small. great resolution but screen could of been a bit bigger. i bought the phone on line and so i never really got to physically see it before i bought it. i just went with what was on the specs alone.
also i was expecting more out of the browser... its okay but i just wished it had a full browser with complete flash and java support.
its my first wm device and so i was also expecting more out of the os.
sliding keyboard was one reason i bought this also and so again i was expecting better.... keyboard is okay but i wish it had more key mapping options and key functions. it seems when using the keyboard, i also have to use the stylus.
i guess i was just expecting better for my 800 bucks but then again i havent really tried customizing it such as trying different third party apps or the other cab files.
i think the htc hd would of been a better phone for me but they dont make it for the u.s high speed band. i got what i got and so ill try and make the best of it and see if i can make the most of it.
Yeah, right now, we don't have that many great options in the U.S.
We have the CDMA Omnia, but it's screen is pathetic compared to the HD. It's also quite unresponsive, and very awful around the edges...
We have the CDMA Diamond, which overheats, and has similar screen issues. No SD slot either.
We have the CDMA Pro, which overheats, has similar screen issues, and more defects than you can shake a stick at.
We have the AT&T Pro, that has crippled GPS...
So what the hell is the best phone out there right now or in the near future? It sounds like the X1 just isn't worth it... Maybe if it was $299 with a contract, like the Pro...
I really don't get your complaints. What's the problem with the screen?
The recessed display is the best idea SE had with this phone. I won't even think about the scratches I had on the screen if it were plain like the TouchHD.
By the way, the Xperia has the same price as the Touch Pro here in Austria and it's far the better choice. For me it's all in one and everything I want from a PPC works fine.
skycamefalling said:
I really don't get your complaints. What's the problem with the screen?
The recessed display is the best idea SE had with this phone. I won't even think about the scratches I had on the screen if it were plain like the TouchHD.
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How does the recessed screen help with scratches
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How does the recessed screen help with scratches
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The frame is protecting the screen. When the unit is faced downwards on a flat surface it won't let the screen touch it directly, that way you save a lot of scratches.
Also I find the recessed screen very handy with sliders, with my thumb nail I can scroll as fast as I want without worrying loosing the slider. The only problem with the screen so far is the "x" button on the right corner, but I am getting used to it.
A minor advantage is that screen protectors can be fitted more easily and accurately. Of course non-recessed screens have other advantages but nonetheless I am very happy X1s screen.
XavierGr said:
The frame is protecting the screen. When the unit is faced downwards on a flat surface it won't let the screen touch it directly, that way you save a lot of scratches.
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Thank you for explaining, that's exactly what I meant to say
If the screen were plain it would be scratched by the zipper of my pocket all the time. So the zipper just touches the frame and this doesn't matter.
however it protects the screen from scratches...
skycamefalling said:
I really don't get your complaints. What's the problem with the screen?
The recessed display is the best idea SE had with this phone. I won't even think about the scratches I had on the screen if it were plain like the TouchHD.
By the way, the Xperia has the same price as the Touch Pro here in Austria and it's far the better choice. For me it's all in one and everything I want from a PPC works fine.
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Here in the US, the Pro is $199 or $299 with 2-year, and the X1 will be $799. Also, if you put a screen protector on your device, your screen looks perfect. My Touch has zero scratches on the screen, but has one or two on the screen protector..
May I ask why you would ever want to lay your phone down on it's screen? I have never done that on any phone I've owned, PDA or not.
XavierGr said:
The frame is protecting the screen. When the unit is faced downwards on a flat surface it won't let the screen touch it directly, that way you save a lot of scratches.
Also I find the recessed screen very handy with sliders, with my thumb nail I can scroll as fast as I want without worrying loosing the slider. The only problem with the screen so far is the "x" button on the right corner, but I am getting used to it.
A minor advantage is that screen protectors can be fitted more easily and accurately. Of course non-recessed screens have other advantages but nonetheless I am very happy X1s screen.
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I'm glad to hear you are happy with the screen--but you really have to use your fingernail with the scroll bars? That's pretty weak... like we are going back to the days of the Apache...
You guys can verify that the screen is really only recessed about 1mm? If so, wouldn't putting a screen protector on there make the screen flush again?
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You guys can verify that the screen is really only recessed about 1mm? If so, wouldn't putting a screen protector on there make the screen flush again?
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Well it's really recessed only a little and I guess it does protect it a bit. I actually had both the touch pro and X1 in hand and then actually chose to go with the X1, they are priced the same here too.
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Well it's really recessed only a little and I guess it does protect it a bit. I actually had both the touch pro and X1 in hand and then actually chose to go with the X1, they are priced the same here too.
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Do you think that if we had a thicker screen protector, could it make the screen flush, and have the same effect as, say, a Touch--with a true flush screen, unlike the Diamond and Pro...
the screen protector would have to be pretty thick to make up the recessed area. not worth the effort.... i think if you buy it, youll just have to try live with it. its really not that bad but would have been more touch screen friendly if it was flush. not a deal breaker for me and the more i use my phone, the more i am getting to like it more... but still not worth the 800 bucks (no phone is worth 800 bucks, i just bought the phone on a whim).
Sorry to say that but the idea is flawed.
Imagine having to handle complex equipment with 3 gloves on your hands... it will be a mess.
Anyway I don't really understand the fuss about flush screens, the only problem I find on XPERIAs recessed screen is the 'x' button on the top right corner and a bit of the 'Start' button. The scrollbars are way too thick to be a problem to operate.
Both problems are solved with time and experience with the device. Imho the protection of the recessed screen outperforms the advantage of easy access on the 'x' button, not to mention that you can just press the ok button to have the same effect.
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not to mention that you can just press the ok button to have the same effect.
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Exactly. And I can imagine the sensitivity going downhill with protectors that thick anyway.
Oh, it has an OK button?
Iiinnnnttteerrreseting!
Any of you notice little specs of dust and lint under your screens? I guess its not a huge deal, but it is annoying when looking at a solid white page. Is this something I could complain to Dell about and try and get a new one or is this par for the course for these types of smart phones? Any tips on how to stop anymore dust from getting in? It seems like the top and bottom crevices of the screen are pretty wide which allows little specs of dust/lint to settle there and eventually get under the screen.
I have just got my DHD, have two Desires and a Wildfire, and have been very happy with the build quality on them all so far. But on the DHD apart from the sim cover issue which seems to be well covered here, has anyone noticed the edges of the screen??? to me it seems the screen is to low in the case, on mine if yu run your finger across the screen towards the side of the phone, the case seems higher than the screen, and is quit a rough edge to it.
This is all round the edge of the phone. The screen seems to be aligned in the casing, it just seems as if it sits low and not flush with the side of the case.
Are they all like this? Or is this another build issue with the DHD.
Other than this, I am more than happy with the phone, and can put up with it, if there are more like it, but as I only have a seven day exchange, I would rather get one that is correct, if even this is a fault.
Cheers
Yeah mine is like that and prefere it as I don't use screen protectors so if your phone is placed on a surface the screen it self wont be in contact so wont get scratched easy. Weather or not that is reason for this I don't no but I do prefere it. Although they could of made the edges better as they are slightly to rough
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volvo940seturbo said:
I have just got my DHD, have two Desires and a Wildfire, and have been very happy with the build quality on them all so far. But on the DHD apart from the sim cover issue which seems to be well covered here, has anyone noticed the edges of the screen??? to me it seems the screen is to low in the case, on mine if yu run your finger across the screen towards the side of the phone, the case seems higher than the screen, and is quit a rough edge to it.
This is all round the edge of the phone. The screen seems to be aligned in the casing, it just seems as if it sits low and not flush with the side of the case.
Are they all like this? Or is this another build issue with the DHD.
Other than this, I am more than happy with the phone, and can put up with it, if there are more like it, but as I only have a seven day exchange, I would rather get one that is correct, if even this is a fault.
Cheers
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Yes they are. Maybe it's designed to hold the screen higher when you put the phone face down, so it doesn't get scratched. Anyway if you put a screen protector (and I advise you to do it), it'll be perfectly flat.
Cheers everyone, feel a whole lot better knowing this. As I said other than that I am more than happy with my new toy. Soo many additional features from the standard Desire.
Only issue I have is affording a Desire Z as well to complete the collection
Cheers again, a screen protector is my next purchase, already have the htc leather pouch coming, as I have these for the other two Desires and my Wildfire, also have a gel skin coming as well, but will see when it comes if I am going to use it.
Any tips on a good screen protector to get?
Yep...go to the Accessories section or Ebay and Google should help you with your quire...
Cheers,
M_T_M
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