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Scratches on metal part of screen near VueFlow button

Spotted someone asking asking about this on another thread and noticed I have the same problem.
http://amd.co.at/anti/pocket/pics/Ameo/AMEO_VGA/PICT1860.JPG
(antivirus - borrowed your picture, let me know if you object and I'll remove it)
So who else has the same problem, what's causing it and what can we do to stop it?

I noticed i get that to. the only way i have found to stop it happening is to magnetise my keyboard on the outside of the case. I think its caused by the connectors for the keyboard, there are 2 little black risen points that stick out and 1 of them makes those marks. (thats what i think - anyone else know any different?)
I was cheesed off by this as having paid out for the phone and for this to happen within a week i wasnt happy. Great phone tho! So all is kinda forgiven!
We need more protective cases out there! Only 2 types i can find so far.

yeh youre right. not only does the black plastic thing line up with scratches, but i noticed some of the scratched silver metal on the black plastic thing.

Yes, looks like that's it.
Now to find an acceptable solution. I'm more than a little pissed off to be honest at such a simple design flaw.
I'm currently misaligning the keyboard with the Ameo by a few mm so that the right hand connector is off the screen and nearer the VueFlow button but this is not an acceptable solution really

could try filing the RHS black thing down/off. the magnets seem to do a good job of ensuring the ameo only connects to keyboard when properly aligned (left to right) anyway.
the countour on keyboard also ensures ameo is straight relative to the keyboard.

The black points seem to keep the ameo upright when using the keyboard, im probably wrong tho.
Try turning the keyboard around in the case, i know its a pain when you want to use the keyboard and have to turn it around to use it, but i find that it works.
Eg have the buttons facing the bottom of the case so the smooth surface is facing the screen. Thats the only other way round it i can see. Im just keeping my eye out for a skin, as ive asked about in another post.
If other people out there are trying to work around it spending money on a different case may be the only way, but your right, big design floor. I noticed it, the same evening i purchased it and managed to flip my keyboard over or put it on the outside of the case. Adds to the bulk tho putting it on the outside, but to me, its the safest option.

I took the Dremmel to that horrid little black plastic lump.
I took it down about 60%, there is still an alignment piece there, but much lower.
I can report that there was no difference in using the keyboard, with or without the leather case. It clips into place just the same as before, and stands up fine as before.
I dont think there is now any danger of more damage from it on my device.
Of course, if you take a Dremmel to YOUR kb, its not my fault what the result is!

Easy Wobbly Screen Fix

As many of you guys have noticed with your G1s, there are some issues with the screen! From it wobbling to creaking and god knows what else will come up. I got my G1 exactly 1 week ago, and I have noticed that the screen is wobbly when the phone is closed. It might just be me, but I keep noticing it and think its annoying. So I decided to make a quick easy fix for it. All you need is some clear plastic sheet maybe half a millimeter thick, Elmer's glue and scissors.
Cut the sheet maybe 1 to 2 millimeters wide and a centimeter or so long and place it in the bottom corner of the phone's chin, next to the small bump from the memory card slot. I dont have pictures right now, but the idea is pretty basic and you should be able to figure it out on your own.
After, the phone feels a lot more solid and the wobbling is gone!

I was actually just thinking of doing something similar the other day. Although, laziness got the best of me :-T

Haha nicee, well when you do get to it you should get quite a noticeable difference, and it really doesn't take that long to do, maybe 5 minutes or so at the most. Currently I am looking into actually custom designed cases for the phone with designs on it. I really like the design on the back of the battery cover of the Developer edition phone and am looking into making something like that.

I have resolved this problem with a silicon case from ebay. It comes with 2 parts, one on the main body and one on the screen body. Now when the phone slides, the silicone parts are touching each other so there is no wobbling.

SolemnWishing said:
Haha nicee, well when you do get to it you should get quite a noticeable difference, and it really doesn't take that long to do, maybe 5 minutes or so at the most. Currently I am looking into actually custom designed cases for the phone with designs on it. I really like the design on the back of the battery cover of the Developer edition phone and am looking into making something like that.
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i had extra strips of universal screen protectors and used those. not only did it help with the squeaks. but it lined the screen up again. it always bothered me how it felt uneven while it was closed.
as for custom cases, count me in. i go through cases a little too quickly.

13bjunkie said:
i had extra strips of universal screen protectors and used those. not only did it help with the squeaks. but it lined the screen up again. it always bothered me how it felt uneven while it was closed.
as for custom cases, count me in. i go through cases a little too quickly.
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Haha sounds good! Do you have any idea on a good tool to use to actually make the design? I would say sharpie, but it really isn't as permanent as I would want it, it will fade away too quickly.

haha sharpie. that's the reason i go through cases like there's no tomorrow. slow days at work drive creativity lol. i even went to a friend's shop that prints and cuts vinyl graphics for cars and had them cut the same dimentions of the shield skins

I tried this, and didnt like the way my phone felt when I opened/closed it. It was too stiff, and hung.
I did this http://androidcommunity.com/forums/showthread.php?p=151499#post151499
This worked beautifully! and took me like 20 seconds.
I also didn't like putting glue on my $400 ADP1

Dredge said:
I tried this, and didnt like the way my phone felt when I opened/closed it. It was too stiff, and hung.
I did this http://androidcommunity.com/forums/showthread.php?p=151499#post151499
This worked beautifully! and took me like 20 seconds.
I also didn't like putting glue on my $400 ADP1
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That is pretty , much the same concept as my idea, except i used completely removable Elmer's glue, but which ever one works for you
And does anyone know where I can buy Developer edition battery covers?

Help, Newton's Rings! (Oily rings appearing beneath screen)

I've heard of this problem happening on other devices (see here, here, here, and although not what mine looks like, here), but I was wondering what I can do about this problem. This is called Newton's Rings, I believe, and there's a nice wikipedia article about it. Apparently it's a problem under the screen.
It's an oily smudge. It appears to be made up of asymmetric rainbow-colored rings and is apparently under the screen. It is only visible in indoor lighting in certain angles, and is less visible when the screen is on. When pressure is applied around this spot, it appears to shift slightly. It's been present for over a week on my device without much change.
The HD2 has a capacitive screen, so the method to correct these spots (the "duct tape method") is said not to work. How can I fix this problem? I'm pretty sure I didn't cause it since I was careful with my device--it could have been there (most likely) from the time of purchase.
Should I ask for an exchange at my local T mobile store? Should I try duct tape or a vacuum cleaner to suck the screen forward, or should I try to open the device up and detach the screen, or should I beg for a return?
Help!
PS: You might want to check your HD2's as well...

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I think you would have to have a resistive screen to even have this problem. A capacitive screen doesn't have these "layers." And, it requires a curvature to induce the inference rings which a hard glass screen with no layers doesn't have.

I followed a couple of them threads some time ago, and if I remember correctly some users which had this problem you're postin' about have had their hd2 replaced by htc cause it should fall under warranty terms. Return it to your local t-mo store and ask for a replacement. Should they deny that, try calling htc customer care and see if you can send it in to corporate for repair/exchange. I'd recommend that you try official ways first before attempting to disassemble it or to fix it by yourself as you may end up voiding your warranty..

Since you have a US T-Mobile HD2, and it has been less than 14 days and within the return period, you should be able to get it replaced at the store.

This is obviously a problem with the screen and you shouldnt try to fix it in any way. If you have installed or modded it in any way then return it to stock condition and take it back to your store. They are obliged to give you a replacement as it is a faulty unit. do not accept anything less.
Mark.

First of all, why in the hell would you buy such a device with incredible screen real-estate... and NOT place a screen protector on it?
My screen hasn't even been touched by human hands. Let me guess, the next thing you're going to tell us is your device has a scratch on the battery cover...
Having a case on the device would have prevented such an incident from occurring in the first place. Problem solved.
Take better care of your investments folks...

Reignzone said:
First of all, why in the hell would you buy such a device with incredible screen real-estate... and NOT place a screen protector on it?
My screen hasn't even been touched by human hands. Let me guess, the next thing you're going to tell us is your device has a scratch on the battery cover...
Having a case on the device would have prevented such an incident from occurring in the first place. Problem solved.
Take better care of your investments folks...
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I seem to be confused about why you need a screen protector when the screen is glass? I was under the impression that glass screens won't scratch. I can't see how a screen protector would protect a glass screen from pressure, so what's the point?

LOL TRUE!!!!!!!! ^

chrys9989 said:
I seem to be confused about why you need a screen protector when the screen is glass? I was under the impression that glass screens won't scratch. I can't see how a screen protector would protect a glass screen from pressure, so what's the point?
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dbriese said:
LOL TRUE!!!!!!!! ^
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Alright, well... I'm not even going to dignify myself a response to your first question... for obvious reasons.
As for pressure... what PRESSURE could you possibly be applying to your device that is apparently going to render the screen useless? It's a ****ING Pocket PC, don't mistreat it. Protect your investments... it's common sense.
Seriously though, your first question... RETHINK exactly what it was that you had asked me... and then I'm pretty sure you'll realize the stupidity.

Reignzone said:
Alright, well... I'm not even going to dignify myself a response to your first question... for obvious reasons.
As for pressure... what PRESSURE could you possibly be applying to your device that is apparently going to render the screen useless? It's a ****ING Pocket PC, don't mistreat it. Protect your investments... it's common sense.
Seriously though, your first question... RETHINK exactly what it was that you had asked me... and then I'm pretty sure you'll realize the stupidity.
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I don't get the attitude, I simply asked you, or anyone else who seems to think they need a screen protector on a glass screen; why they feel that way. As far as I know, it's like next to impossible to scratch it, (unless you carry loose diamonds in your pocket) and the pressure comment was me trying to understand why you feel the need to get a protector. With all that said, I wasn't knocking you wanting one (somebody's got to buy them) I was simply trying to see if I was misinformed about the durability of glass screens.

Heh, my bling-bling may scratch my phone screen That's how you can tell they are real diamonds . Though, you make a good point, glass screen shouldn't scratch, and if anything, a crappy thicker screen protector may hinder the conductivity of your fingers? Just my guess. On a side note, had my ipod touch in the same pocket as my keys once (hate the thing, but it was free) The back got scratched to hell, but the screen was nice and unscathed.

chrys9989 said:
I don't get the attitude, I simply asked you, or anyone else who seems to think they need a screen protector on a glass screen; why they feel that way. As far as I know, it's like next to impossible to scratch it, (unless you carry loose diamonds in your pocket) and the pressure comment was me trying to understand why you feel the need to get a protector. With all that said, I wasn't knocking you wanting one (somebody's got to buy them) I was simply trying to see if I was misinformed about the durability of glass screens.
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rickyzone said:
Heh, my bling-bling may scratch my phone screen That's how you can tell they are real diamonds . Though, you make a good point, glass screen shouldn't scratch, and if anything, a crappy thicker screen protector may hinder the conductivity of your fingers? Just my guess. On a side note, had my ipod touch in the same pocket as my keys once (hate the thing, but it was free) The back got scratched to hell, but the screen was nice and unscathed.
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Alright. Well, my apologies for the "disrespect".
I'm merely saying that a screen sleeve, protector, or WHATEVER is how someone could go about preventing the oil corrosion that occurs from natural skin oils on the screen.

This isn't oil corrosion. No disrespect from me either, but this unit actually had a screen protector. And a case. So thanks, but no thanks.

curiousGeorge said:
This isn't oil corrosion. No disrespect from me either, but this unit actually had a screen protector. And a case. So thanks, but no thanks.
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I had exactly the same situation with my old Hermes (going back quite a few years). I got it through the post from Tmobile and was playing happily with it for about half an hour until I noticed an oily patch exactly as you describe. Rang up Customer Support and they asked me if I had sat on the phone or knocked it in any way.. And this was after having the phone in my possession for 30 minutes HAHA in the end they told me to take the phone to the nearest store to confirm the problem and I got a straight replacement.
I think its caused by a leak in the LCD. You can try, as sugested on other threads to get some tape and try to pull the glass away from the liquid but this would only really be worth trying if your phone was out of manufacturers warranty. Since you have not had your phone long at all you are entitled to a direct replacement under the Sale of Goods Act.
Going back to earlier posts, too much pressure could cause this sort of problem but as stated with a good quality glass which the HD2 has this is very unlikely unless you had an elephant sit on it
More likely the LCD is defective and if the oily patch is noticeble to you then the seller has no other recourse. If I was you I would deal with this matter as soon as possible though so that you get a stisfactory result.
Mark.

Hey guys.
looking at your device, you have the same problem i have on my HTC TOUCH HD, mine had a small point in the middle, and after a few months it become bigger and now my screen wont work properly.
it means when i perss lets say "START" button, it reacts at the X button in the right of the screen.
adter looking over the net and reading about it, i can see a lot of devices from HTC has this problem, guess its a bad building quality who knows.
maybe it got hit a few times at the screen, maybe pressure who knows.
the thing is, CHANGE THE DEVICE before your screen wont react anymore, mine is Resistive screen. so i took a small niddle and lifted the screen from the left (the volume side) and squeezd it a bit, it went out, but a bit more came back after, that means something or some fluid is between tha screen, the Gap maybe i dont know.
ive also tried with a DUCT TAPE - worked for a few minutes than it came back again, but even when the oily part was gone the screen still was reacting not as before.
also there is a bad sound from the place you have the oily part under it' like if you press it with the Stylus or just your finger.
BE CAREFUL with thos devices!
Also ive heard something about PRESSURE differents between cities / countries and simillar can cause the screen defect.
for example - i live NOW in Eilat, its in Israel, and its a very very low place, i go home once a month, to a higher place (300M above), and it happaned since i moved here. it can be one more of the reasons to cause this defect.
well, my device is ruind, it can barely work now sometimes, if i press the screen from all of the sides or lifting it up with a niddle!
and that sucks!
BTW USE YOUR WARRENTY.
dont let HTC run away from their defaults and defects with thos devices, why do we have to pay on their mistakes of not making a good resistance materials for thos devices...its stupid.
specialy when it happanes to a lot of people with the same Devices!
i dont see any APPLE users having thos peoblems with IPOD / IPHONE!

liav12 said:
Hey guys.
looking at your device, you have the same problem i have on my HTC TOUCH HD, mine had a small point in the middle, and after a few months it become bigger and now my screen wont work properly.
it means when i perss lets say "START" button, it reacts at the X button in the right of the screen.
adter looking over the net and reading about it, i can see a lot of devices from HTC has this problem, guess its a bad building quality who knows.
maybe it got hit a few times at the screen, maybe pressure who knows.
the thing is, CHANGE THE DEVICE before your screen wont react anymore, mine is Resistive screen. so i took a small niddle and lifted the screen from the left (the volume side) and squeezd it a bit, it went out, but a bit more came back after, that means something or some fluid is between tha screen, the Gap maybe i dont know.
ive also tried with a DUCT TAPE - worked for a few minutes than it came back again, but even when the oily part was gone the screen still was reacting not as before.
also there is a bad sound from the place you have the oily part under it' like if you press it with the Stylus or just your finger.
BE CAREFUL with thos devices!
Also ive heard something about PRESSURE differents between cities / countries and simillar can cause the screen defect.
for example - i live NOW in Eilat, its in Israel, and its a very very low place, i go home once a month, to a higher place (300M above), and it happaned since i moved here. it can be one more of the reasons to cause this defect.
well, my device is ruind, it can barely work now sometimes, if i press the screen from all of the sides or lifting it up with a niddle!
and that sucks!
BTW USE YOUR WARRENTY.
dont let HTC run away from their defaults and defects with thos devices, why do we have to pay on their mistakes of not making a good resistance materials for thos devices...its stupid.
specialy when it happanes to a lot of people with the same Devices!
i dont see any APPLE users having thos peoblems with IPOD / IPHONE!
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All touchscreens suffer from defects (yes even ipdods and iphones lol). The trick is to send it back the moment you spot it and not sit on it and wait, hoping it will go away. It wont. You can use the tape method to pull the screen away from the bleed but the liquid will still be there and sooner or later it will just come back.
I noticed a bleed on my OLD hermes the day I got it from brand new, rang up the shop (tmobile uk) and they tried to tell me that I must have sat on it or dropped it. Everyone who purchases a device has a right that it will work for a 'reasonable' amount of time without defects appearing so you have to push your rights and get it changed (not fixed) for a new device.
If your device is out of warranty and you have a bleed on the screen the only thing you can really do is change the screen. These can be found on ebay and not that hard to do. For your Touch HD you can get one *HERE* but you have to weigh up whether its cheaper to just buy a new device or fix the one you have.
And I dont really think atmospheric pressure between different places would have any affect as lcd screens are built to work pretty much anywhere and if that was the case every time someone got on a plane their device would go capput.
Mark.

i know! that sounds not reasonable, but i looked at someone's Thread about that he went out of a plane and he noticed a huge spot in the middle of the screen, and few days later after going back on the flight it was gone.
that thing is very strange.
btw thank you for the link..

liav12 said:
i know! that sounds not reasonable, but i looked at someone's Thread about that he went out of a plane and he noticed a huge spot in the middle of the screen, and few days later after going back on the flight it was gone.
that thing is very strange.
btw thank you for the link..
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Ur welcome
Mark.

Dust under the screen

Hello all,
I've got a week old Desire Z and the only thing thats bothering me is a few bits of dust in various corners of the screen, tiny bits not too large, other than this the phones perfect. I'm contemplating returning the device, however I'm worried the next one maybe worse off, and eventually dust is going to get under the screen it being a HTC, my previous Nexus One had the problem so did 3 other friends and a Desire, all which use similar sealing mechanisms.
Do any of you chaps suffer from the same problem?
Regards,
Akshay

I haven't noticed any dust in mine -- but I did in one of my previous phones.
As long as its not a big flake of dust right in the middle, I wouldn't sweat it. Like you said, the next one could be worse (unless you can go into a store and they'll let you open boxes and look)
Mine came with what appears to be a very slight scratch bottom right, but when the phone's on you cant see it at all

I have one on my screen too. It's not small, it's on the edge of the screen, right on top, below the HTC logo. When I pick up the phone, it's not visible much, but when you look at the phone lying on your desk then I see it and it bugs me.
I was hoping there is a way to get rid of it. Like turn the phone upside down and switch on vibration, or shake the phone. Any ideas?

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I have one on my screen too. It's not small, it's on the edge of the screen, right on top, below the HTC logo. When I pick up the phone, it's not visible much, but when you look at the phone lying on your desk then I see it and it bugs me.
I was hoping there is a way to get rid of it. Like turn the phone upside down and switch on vibration, or shake the phone. Any ideas?
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Anything in there is probably sandwiched in pretty good. Some things to consider trying are giving the phone some hard taps on the edge, to try to dislodge the dust and move it to a non-visible area (this could also shatter your screen or dislodge some important component) or maybe try dissembling the phone till you can get to the edge of the screen and try some high-pressure air...

aksd said:
Hello all,
I've got a week old Desire Z and the only thing thats bothering me is a few bits of dust in various corners of the screen, tiny bits not too large, other than this the phones perfect. I'm contemplating returning the device, however I'm worried the next one maybe worse off, and eventually dust is going to get under the screen it being a HTC, my previous Nexus One had the problem so did 3 other friends and a Desire, all which use similar sealing mechanisms.
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I got dust in the bottom left hand corner of my screen. I went to sleep with a clear screen and woke up with a good portion of the corner pretty well dusted, about the diameter of a dime.
I sent it in for a warranty replacement, and it hasn't happened again with the new one in 5 months.

I'm done with HTC phones for now. Two of my last high end HTC phones had either dust or stuck/bad pixels and while materials seemed high quality, build quality was really poor. That dust was not there when I bought it, it must have made it in there, this should never be allowed to happen.

loose bezel

Ive had my nexus s since launch an ive noticed that the bezel around my screen is loose. When i apply pressure on the sides of my phone like squeezin it alittle it creaks an moves some. I first thought it was the battery cover but when i remove it i can see the bezel moving. Anyone else notice this on theres?

I returned a couple different NS for various reason and some had a squeaky bezel and some didn't. None of them were loose enough where there was any significant movement. Sorry to say but it sounds like you have a defect. Call Samsung, I'm sure you're still under warranty. It takes a couple weeks between sending it out and getting it back but at least it will be fixed and hopefully working properly. Good luck.

i can't say it's normal, but i guess it's pretty commom, mine is like yours and other two pieces i have tested are a little more or less equal... the weird thing is some users notice and some don't. my friend's nexus is just like mine and he never noticed until i told him!

I've noticed that the plastic piece at the bottom of the phone (where the USB port and hole for the mic are) creaks a little when I push on it. Nothing I'm fretting over but enough to be noticeable.

I just looked at my friends an his is really bad on the sides. He thinks it might be from taking the battery cover off an on alot. I wish there was some way to tighten it cause its now starting to bug me but not enough to send to samsung. I cant go without a phone for a few weeks

just like i said! =o)... and no way i will send it to samsung!
i guess i will wait whole piece comes out so i'll fix it with superglue! =o)