Just spent an hour on the phone with Sprint, talking about my account. Awesome rep, really knew his stuff and helped me save some money on my bill.
Anyhow, I told him I wanted to talk to a supervisor and give the man props for being good at his job.
In passing, I brought up the threads on here about Sprint tracking rooted phones and cancelling contracts.
From the supervisor's own words:
"Sprint cannot and will not cancel a contract due to a device being rooted or modified. Sprint can only void the warranty. Also, they do NOT have the capability of knowing if a phone is rooted with out physically examining it"
Now, a certain troll started some BS here a few weeks ago about the OTA and Sprint knowing if you're rooted by whether you accept it or not.
THIS IS FALSE!!!!!!
"Sprint cannot force an end user to accept any updates"
End of Story!
Thanks, the dude on the other thread claims the he ran RUU, but I think he forgot to flash s-on, so that is how the sprint tech department knew that he had root. I was very shocked by his statement of packet sniffing and root checking etc.
EDIT: the other thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1137063
The other thread is an example of what happens when 16 year olds root their phone and thether xbox 360.
Now he got everyone paranoid, a day before E3d launch.
Boehner.....
Also under the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act of 1975 if you are rooted only your software warranty is invalid (bootloop, and 4G key loss for example). If your USB port breaks they still have to honor the hardware warranty.
An exception is if you root your phone, load the wrong, or a defective ROM which causes the CPU to peg then overheat causing the CPU chip to China Syndrome into the system board.
i knew they couldnt cancel your contract b/c your rooted! thanks for the info hipkat!
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i knew they couldnt cancel your contract b/c your rooted! thanks for the info hipkat!
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No Prob. I had him specifically say, with no uncertainty, you cannot be cancelled for rooting your phone and they cannot magically track whether you're rooted or not from a remote location.
Now he DID say that if you are abusing by having 45 gigs of data transfer a month, you are definitely getting a red flag, and I cited the post in this forum when I asked him about it.
From what Ive heard the new phones will be have an OTA with a boot loader. I have also seen that you can uninstall sprint apps on the new EVO 3D without root. This, to me, says that sprint will have to be ok with rooted phones whether they like it or not... Also, if someone is using that much data, that someone needs to lift their head up and put the damn thing down for a little while.
Deep down, I think we all knew this to be true. That other dude was just careless
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Deep down, I think we all knew this to be true. That other dude was just careless
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+1. I think we all knew too, but it was a little scary tho, lol. Thank you Hipkat! That will make me sleep a lil easier.
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People believed that guy? Lol
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The other thread is an example of what happens when 16 year olds root their phone and thether xbox 360.
Now he got everyone paranoid, a day before E3d launch.
Boehner.....
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Thanks for this OP. I knew the story didn't sound right. Me and my rooted phone are safe.
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People believed that guy? Lol
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I don't imagine a lot of people actually *believed* him, persay, but it was just enough to put that little thread of doubt in your head...
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People believed that guy? Lol
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Sadly, I saw a few asking how to unroot and s-off.
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People believed that guy? Lol
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right... lol
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Sadly, I saw a few asking how to unroot and s-off.
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Which is EXACTLY why I put this thread up. I just got tired of seeing this fear mongering being spread over the forums, and since the rep I was talking to was super cool, and knew just how to hook me up on my account, I knew he'd be a guy to ask, then when I talked to his supervisor, I just laid it out with a direct question; "Will Sprint cancel an account because of a rooted device and can you see if my phone is rooted from a remote location?"
Well, now y'all know the answers
Do you know how many people would be purposely rooting their phones just so that they could leave Sprint without an ETF? Especially the week iPhone 5 drops?
HipKat, when I get back home to my PC, you've got a push on the "thanks" radio button from me coming. All these trolls come in here to stir up trouble. They must work for AT&T or summin'.
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Thanks, man!
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Ok guys, weird question...my screen is totally scratched up, no idea how it happened, but I am really pissed off about it. Anyway, I have the best buy extra insurance (Black tie?). I want to brick my DX so they can give me a new one. ****ed up I know, but I am paying for it, so I might as well take advantage. How do i do, or what is the best way to make it irrecoverable?
If you bought the accidental plan, just drop in in a puddle. I told them i was gonna hack it when i bought it and they said no problem but if anything happens and I have to bring it in, I better make sure it doesnt power on at all.
Best solution, pop it in the microwave for a couple seconds. It will nit power on after that.
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why don't you just tell them you lost it.. .
put it in a bowl and piss on it
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Best solution, pop it in the microwave for a couple seconds. It will nit power on after that.
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bonus points if you do this and post a vid!
Better yet take fat dump on it put in a zip lock bag and take it out just before you bring it into the store then they wont even attempt to turn it on ja
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bonus points if you do this and post a vid!
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I swear I will do it, but I need to know if it will show any damage or whatever. Either this or I was thinking about telling them I dropped it and bash it with a hammer over a towel or something.
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I swear I will do it, but I need to know if it will show any damage or whatever. Either this or I was thinking about telling them I dropped it and bash it with a hammer over a towel or something.
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throw it out a high window, say you dropped it at your hotel on vacation. or just step on it till the screen breaks and say you sat on it. their not gonna ask for a 10 page essay inorder to turn it in...
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throw it out a high window, say you dropped it at your hotel on vacation. or just step on it till the screen breaks and say you sat on it. their not gonna ask for a 10 page essay inorder to turn it in...
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No, I get that, but I don't want them to repair it. I just want a new one.
When u signed up for the contract u agreed to have a new OR refurb at their discretion. You will be without your phone for 2to 4 weeks
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When u signed up for the contract u agreed to have a new OR refurb at their discretion. You will be without your phone for 2to 4 weeks
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No I didn't BB gives you a loaner phone and a new device if they cant fix it. I have a backup phone anyway.
I'm not going to get into the morality implications of insurance fraud, but this is the kind of thing that makes protection policies expensive for the rest of us. Just something to think about.
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I'm not going to get into the morality implications of insurance fraud, but this is the kind of thing that makes protection policies expensive for the rest of us. Just something to think about.
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Hes turning in the phone, so they are able to repair it and give it to the next person that breaks their phone. This saves us cost, because the other alternative is him reporting it lost and just keeping it.
You could always do the OTA then sbf 2.1. done brick. and you dont have to break anything, and now best buy and asurion will lower our insurance costs! jk
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Hes turning in the phone, so they are able to repair it and give it to the next person that breaks their phone. This saves us cost, because the other alternative is him reporting it lost and just keeping it.
You could always do the OTA then sbf 2.1. done brick. and you dont have to break anything, and now best buy and asurion will lower our insurance costs! jk
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I was just thinking about using the 2.1 SBF. I think I will go that route. They should just give me a new DX, no?
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This saves us cost, because the other alternative is him reporting it lost and just keeping it.
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No, the alternative is to just live with his scratched up phone. Any other "alternative" which gets him a new phone on the policy's dime (including reporting it lost), is a crime.
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No, the alternative is to just live with his scratched up phone. Any other "alternative" which gets him a new phone on the policy's dime (including reporting it lost), is a crime.
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I am paying for a product. Why the hell shouldnt I? I didn't ask for anyones opinion man. Would you want to live with a scratched up $600 phone? Especially if you take care of all of your stuff?
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I was just thinking about using the 2.1 SBF. I think I will go that route. They should just give me a new DX, no?
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like it was said earlier, you might not get a new one. Doing the sbf will put you into a boot loop i believe, same thing thats been reported to happen to random people when doing the OTA...
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Blow me dude..immature I know. BUt seriously. I am paying for a product. Why the hell shouldnt I? I didn't ask for anyones opinion man.
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yes you did, in your first post! lol
yeah, its being shady. But so is rooting. Your breaching contract, just to remove bloat ware. Wireless tether for root users is also "stealing". List goes on and on. But thats why were here.
Forums arent the place for moral, political, or religious debate. Not trying to be mean, just keepin it real.
and if/when you get a replacement, may i recommend a screen protector....
Maaaaan all you have to do is say the on screen keyboard doesn't work its a software issue it only works when it wants to. Just remember The customer is ALWAYS right...I did it over the phone threatned to cancle my service and 2 days later new phone that was the droid 1 though. Id still take a fat **** on it though just so you can say you did it for conversation sakes.
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well i was sorta jacked around yesterday, ill be a bit happier if and when i get my phone today. it's just all the mis info i was given that set me off. nobody seems to be on the same page with sprint. this was more of a rant video than anything. didn't expect it would piss off soo many sprint fans. oh well, life goes on. it's pretty common knowledge sprint has horrid customer service skills. i honestly had no idea the store i went to was a 3rd party because they only sell sprint phones and i was told before they are officially sprint, not some 3rd party rip off.
some really immature responses on the video, i expected better from adults. i have every reason to vent like most of you do.
Wow. Whine much? Not exactly end of the world situation there, and stepping on pile of crap is part of life.
Too long
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Maybe sprint just doesn't like you. I hear at&t wants customers
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This service does seem bad, but why was it necessary to have the phone in 1 day? If you order it online it usually takes at least 2 days, probably more. Plus you already have your old phone, so what was the urgency?
I want my 5 minutes back.
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This service does seem bad, but why was it necessary to have the phone in 1 day? If you order it online it usually takes at least 2 days, probably more. Plus you already have your old phone, so what was the urgency?
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To be a needy annoying customer
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WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
want some cheese with that wine
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To be a needy annoying customer
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LOL
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Move on. Vote with your $.
Yea this dude needs to get over himself unless he trashed his old phone one more day using it wouldnt have killed him.
this guy is an attention whore !
1 of his recent attempts
http://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/9...__p__593298636__fromsearch__1&#entry593298636
for those that notice the name
http://localhostr.com/files/5c655d/lol.jpg
I've delt with utility companies with far worse customer service skills than Sprint. Crying about it on YouTube solves nothing.
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this guy is an attention whore !
1 of his recent attempts
http://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/9...__p__593298636__fromsearch__1&#entry593298636
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Wow, "hey meet me at 12am, behind the grocery store, come alone and bring cash only" dude says "Ok!"
So this guy is full of stories huh.
Here is the official document outlining their methods and procedures for handling devices with suspicion of root.
oo reary ??
so basically it's a "please don't root, but if you do...umm...well please don't"?
Seems pretty inoffensive to me. But the stuff about "schoolmarming" a rooter is ridiculous. I'd like to believe that anyone smart enough to find out about and root doesn't need a talking-to. I also doubt that rooted customers take up much of a support center's time overall. Of course, Sprint employees including Korey AKA WDM may say something else about that.
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Seems pretty inoffensive to me. But the stuff about "schoolmarming" a rooter is ridiculous. I'd like to believe that anyone smart enough to find out about and root doesn't need a talking-to. I also doubt that rooted customers take up much of a support center's time overall. Of course, Sprint employees including Korey AKA WDM may say something else about that.
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well, they don't want you to root for obvious reasons... tethering probably being the biggest one. Plus having to replaced bricked phones would be another. I can see their perspective... and instantly disregard it
Lol
Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.
This is funny
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Appreciate the info but this does not seem to cover what it means if they open a ticket and note that the device is suspected of root. Now with this suspect of root does this then give them an out on replacing or repairing?
Again this is all coming from my experience of my local and only place to get service, threatening to blacklist my phone if he "suspected" root.
Here is the Emeryville, CA store number (510) 596-0930 Give them a call and ask if you can bring in your phone for repair if you have root. I bet you will get a "no"
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Appreciate the info but this does not seem to cover what it means if they open a ticket and note that the device is suspected of root. Now with this suspect of root does this then give them an out on replacing or repairing?
Again this is all coming from my experience of my local and only place to get service, threatening to blacklist my phone if he "suspected" root.
Here is the Emeryville, CA store number (510) 596-0930 Give them a call and ask if you can bring in your phone for repair if you have root. I bet you will get a "no"
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Print this pdf out and show it to them. Tell them it came from ISC in the "Service and Repair" section. If they ask how you got it, tell them it doesn't matter and that it is your job to know these things.
Yes it is noted that your phone is rooted, but like it says if there is an issue with a phone that cannot be fixed that will Advance Exchange it. No matter what. Trust me. If you have a problem just PM me and then I'll call.
Thanks for the info. The local reseller he wouldn't touch mine when she saw it was rooted. Mind you I took it in for the slider being loose and first thing she did was scroll through my apps and look for super user, then promptly showed me the door.
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I wouldn't even walk into a Sprint store without having first used ODIN to get back to 100% stock. I don't want to give any Sprint tech/rep an excuse to play the blame game with my device/account.
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I wouldn't even walk into a Sprint store without having first used ODIN to get back to 100% stock. I don't want to give any Sprint tech/rep an excuse to play the blame game with my device/account.
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For sure. My display went out and managed to Odin blind through download mode before going in for service.
tenaciousj said:
Thanks for the info. The local reseller he wouldn't touch mine when she saw it was rooted. Mind you I took it in for the slider being loose and first thing she did was scroll through my apps and look for super user, then promptly showed me the door.
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Who in their right mind would bring back a rooted phone expecting it to be covered/serviced. One with a working display for that matter.
You people are absolutely ridiculous.
I've been telling you all this for weeks now, and now korey posts one of the documents I was referring to, and you STILL choose to not only waste your time by going to stock, but making it harder for us to replicate and solve issues by not handing us the phone in the original environment when you found the issue. That can make it very hard at times to properly triage and repair a phone; think of it like forensics, a crime scene is only properly diagnosed when NOTHING IS TOUCHED.
So please, save me the frustration, and simply bring this doc in with you. And if they give you a hard time, tell them to look up the OTHER doc, the one that outlines which tier rooted phones fall in to (tier 2, btw, which dictates a $35 charge if you don't have TEP and free if you do. Which, hey, guess what, is the same ****ing tier as a nonrooted phone! Who would've thunk it!)
And to whoever says educating a customer is unneccessary because obviously they're smart enough blah blah blah...you're ignorant. Very very ignorant. Because no, I didn't get that customer that came in no less than SIX times with a bricked epic from just ATTEMPTING to root, actually ROOTED it for him, and flashed godamn srf, and yet still returned A SEVENTH ****ING TIME with a bricked epic. No, that definitely didn't happen. No way. There's just no way freaking way somebody who is interested in "hacking" their phone is actually an idiot. Nope.
Ridiculous
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You people are absolutely ridiculous. "Oh! Well now that whosdaman said it!..." But that still isn't stopping you from being ignorant.
I've been telling you all this for weeks now, and now korey posts one of the documents I was referring to, and you STILL choose to not only waste your time by going to stock, but making it harder for us to replicate and solve issues by not handing us the phone in the original environment when you found the issue. That can make it very hard at times to properly triage and repair a phone; think of it like forensics, a crime scene is only properly diagnosed when NOTHING IS TOUCHED.
So please, save me the frustration, and simply bring this doc in with you. And if they give you a hard time, tell them to look up the OTHER doc, the one that outlines which tier rooted phones fall in to (tier 2, btw, which dictates a $35 charge if you don't have TEP and free if you do. Which, hey, guess what, is the same ****ing tier as a nonrooted phone! Who would've thunk it!)
And to whoever says educating a customer is unneccessary because obviously they're smart enough blah blah blah...you're ignorant. Very very ignorant. Because no, I didn't get that customer that came in no less than SIX times with a bricked epic from just ATTEMPTING to root, actually ROOTED it for him, and flashed godamn srf, and yet still returned A SEVENTH ****ING TIME with a bricked epic. No, that definitely didn't happen. No way. There's just no way freaking way somebody who is interested in "hacking" their phone is actually an idiot. Nope.
Ridiculous
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Nice post.
Also .... am i the only one cracking up everytime i see one of those
"Siemens" ad on xda ?
tenaciousj said:
Thanks for the info. The local reseller he wouldn't touch mine when she saw it was rooted. Mind you I took it in for the slider being loose and first thing she did was scroll through my apps and look for super user, then promptly showed me the door.
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My slider is loose, its extremely annoying is this anything fixable by them?
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My slider is loose, its extremely annoying is this anything fixable by them?
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If they have harvested parts, yes
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And allow me to reiterate, any trouble you get for a rooted device IN NO WAY IS A REFLECTION OF SPRINT. It is a reflection of the employee, and their laziness/ignorance/misconceptions. Fight them, because they are wrong.
Also, I cannot speak for 3rd party stores (your typical mall retailers). Not only do they sometimes operate under *slightly* different rules that I'm not privy to, but some of them frequently operate poorly and intentionally misguide you.
A classic and shockingly common example is sending us customers with liquid damage, telling them that we'll replace a liquid damaged phone for free if they complain enough.
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If they have harvested parts, yes
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Would they charge? If so how much? I'm not on TEP.
Thanks.
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Would they charge? If so how much? I'm not on TEP.
Thanks.
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$35, but it is open enrollment this month so you can get tep added
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So my phone has this problem of only intermittently vibrating when I get a text/call. So I got an RMA and sent it in. First off, the lost it, and took several days and several phone calls to find somebody who was able to locate my phone. They then told me that it was not under warranty because it was physical damage. They said the main board was bent. Somehow I was apparently able to bend the phone enough to bend the main board but not crack the screen or back or anything else. So they said they could sell me a phone for $179 (no way). Sounds like crap to me........ I'll be buying Samsung next time.
cool story bro.
I prefer Samsung too. But in the long run I'm going to go with cool story bro
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Okay, goodbye and enjoy your no future updates
Samsung sucks. I'll let you find out the hard way.
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1 star......
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Okay, goodbye and enjoy your no future updates
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"Facetubespam" sounds like something your boyfriend does on your face! Just saying! ....... btw.........nice story!
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Yeah. Cool story.
Tell it again.
You're looking at me like I fingerbanged your cat...
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So my phone has this problem of only intermittently vibrating when I get a text/call. So I got an RMA and sent it in. First off, the lost it, and took several days and several phone calls to find somebody who was able to locate my phone. They then told me that it was not under warranty because it was physical damage. They said the main board was bent. Somehow I was apparently able to bend the phone enough to bend the main board but not crack the screen or back or anything else. So they said they could sell me a phone for $179 (no way). Sounds like crap to me........ I'll be buying Samsung next time.
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i remember my first phone
This post is confusing as hell. He broke his phone and they won't replace it is that the gist of it? Why's he so mad?
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Phalanx7621 said:
This post is confusing as hell. He broke his phone and they won't replace it is that the gist of it? Why's he so mad?
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His father left at a young age.
His mother never loved him.
And his first love... Well, we all know what happens after their first love.
You're looking at me like I fingerbanged your cat...
I swear stupid **** threads like this need to be deleted as soon as they are posted.
Some days I wish I was a MOD, dumbass posts like these wouldn't happen.
And, to be honest, I believe OP is only presenting a very small part of the story.
Notice how, toward the end of his ramble, he said he dropped the phone?
Sir, facts like those are important if you're trying to get people to rally behind you.
You're looking at me like I fingerbanged your cat...
you
did fingerbang my cat, now you have a friend for life and he has a companion.
Who cares which company .... all that matters is that it has Andorid inside and got a development forum in XDA
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His father left at a young age.
His mother never loved him.
And his first love... Well, we all know what happens after their first love.
You're looking at me like I fingerbanged your cat...
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This isn't necessary. You're just trying to be funny which wasn't. Please don't make rude comments like this.
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Useless topic!! Bye!
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Can we please close this thread since nothing good can come from it?...
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Except Samsung has always been on top of updates. The only time Samsung hasn't had a timely update was due to networks, namely AT&T, not approving of the update for a long time.
I agree! Samsung makes good phones, but the touchwiz icons make me feel like I should use velcro shoes, safety scissors, finger paints, ect.
I posted this to get up to the 10 post limit for the dev forums, thanks. I feel validated since it was already towards the top of the page, and my post adds about as much to these forums as the OP
So it's odd to me how phone forums get locked and policed based on certain policies yet are totally contradicted in themselves.
For example, insurance fraud or any kind of proposed dishonesty is frowned upon and closed. Yet tutorials on how to root and unroot (which is mainly done to return a phone or for advanced in house tecnical assistance) is considered ok.
Yes, I'm rooted. And, yes I'm running a custom rom and love the freedom to do so. But to unroot and hide the fact that I was originally rooted for purposes of tecnical support or phone replacement purposes poses the same illegitimacy as the aformentioned example. Couldn't one argue that anything can be done for "development sake."
Now I haven't actually had the need to unroot (knock on wood) and am greatful to know how to do so. But, how is this different from all the other so called immoral threads.
No, I'm not flaming, nor am I affliated with any posters on here in anyway. I just think it's ridiculous that some posts are considered some kind of breech of morality that seem to lie on the same grounds as those that aren't.
P.S. I own my phone legitimately.
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There was a court case against Apple for jailbrwaking the iJoke phones. The person won against Apple and the courts said the only way they could deny warranty on any phone was if Apple gave them away for free, but since they make customers pay for the phone, it is the customers property to do as they wanted and that jailbreaking in itself could not void warranty.
Search online, it is all there.
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Insurance fraud is deliberately breaking your phone in order to get a new free replacement. This is a criminal offence.
Rooting/unrooting is not a criminal offence.
Spot the difference?
I do and as mentioned am not affliated with any of that illegal activity as some might be.
But to me it's all illegal.
The intent is still the same. Just my opinion. The phone is being modified in a way not intended by the manufacturer.
Not looking to get banned as I haven't been to date.
I enjoy the benefits of the devs on here.
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I do and as mentioned am not affliated with any of that illegal activity as some might be.
But to me it's all illegal.
The intent is still the same. Just my opinion. The phone is being modified in a way not intended by the manufacturer.
Not looking to get banned as I haven't been to date.
I enjoy the benefits of the devs on here.
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You don't even have to unroot to have your phone fixed at sprint. People do it just in case. And I don't care how HTC wanted me to use this phone. I paid 500$ for this and I have every right to do what I want with it.
Having trouble with AOSP? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1295702
Rooting is not illegal.
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Dear Mr scotsman I'm not the one who broke the phone! I have the phone as payment for rooting his new phone (I offered ten bucks for it but he said just keep it) I just wanted to know if it could be used as a phone. Maybe you should have read what I wrote instead of accusing me of insurance fraud. Now my friend who dropped the phone you can accuse of many things and he would be guilty of most of them. If you had a problem with the post you could have first answered my question. then let me know i couldn't talk about fixing broken phones before shutting the first one down so I wouldn't have had to start a second one. Thanks to those people that did answer my question i appreciate it
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L_B_J_1 said:
Dear Mr scotsman I'm not the one who broke the phone! I have the phone as payment for rooting his new phone (I offered ten bucks for it but he said just keep it) I just wanted to know if it could be used as a phone. Maybe you should have read what I wrote instead of accusing me of insurance fraud. Now my friend who dropped the phone you can accuse of many things and he would be guilty of most of them. If you had a problem with the post you could have first answered my question. then let me know i couldn't talk about fixing broken phones before shutting the first one down so I wouldn't have had to start a second one. Thanks to those people that did answer my question i appreciate it
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I suggest you re-read my posts. I never accused anyone of insurance fraud.
I said 'DISCUSSION OF INSURANCE FRAUD" is not allowed. See the difference?
EDIT: In fact, let me quote my exact posts, to make it clear:
the_scotsman said:
Discussion of insurance fraud isn't allowed here.
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the_scotsman said:
I closed the last one for a reason. And yet you start another one?
NO DISCUSSION ABOUT FRAUD, OR QUESTIONS ABOUT FRAUDULENTLY OBTAINED/DAMAGED PHONES.
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We weren't discussing insurance fraud!!! READ THE POST
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All I wanted to know is if it could be used as a phone again
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aerajan said:
But to unroot and hide the fact that I was originally rooted for purposes of tecnical support or phone replacement purposes poses the same illegitimacy as the aformentioned example.
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I have my EVO rooted. Once in the past I unrooted it to bring it to the store. I did absolutely not do anything immoral, unethical or illegal. The USB port stopped charging and actually pulled partially out when I unplugged the phone. There is a known problem with the EVO that this can happen so the phone is covered under the manufacturers warranty. I did not want my account flagged for rooting so I unrooted it before I brought it in for service. The very first thing they did when I walked in the store was unlock my phone, and asked if the phone was rooted (I think they asked because it looked different- I use launcher pro). There is no way that the USB port problem was caused by rooting. Is anything I did illegitimate? No. I only did it to avoid problems in the future. If you brick the phone you can not unroot for a replacement, you would have to claim it was damaged in another way, which would be fraud. The only unethical unroot I have seen people doing is losing their RSA keys and unrooting then claiming 4g just stopped working, but those threads are often flamed by people that think this is wrong.
All you had to do is say no it can't. I say thank you and I move on, its that easy. Good day sir
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L_B_J_1 said:
All I wanted to know is if it could be used as a phone again
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And that is my point. We don't allow discussion of phones that have been obtained/replaced by means of insurance fraud. I know you are just asking a question, but it's a question that is about a phone that was replaced with a new one by a fraudulent insurance claim.
L_B_J_1 said:
All you had to do is say no it can't. I say thank you and I move on, its that easy. Good day sir
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I don't know the answer...though I could hazard a guess.
Anyway, end of discussion.
That's all I was looking for... I wish you would have put that in my first post. But thanks for the clarification
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WOW, I love threads like this. Someone gets their feelings hurt and wants to argue with a moderator..hahaha
Word of advice to the OP, you're not going to win this one! Scotsman has the rules on his side and he holds all the cards...just saying!
On the other hand, Scotsman I see you haven't sold that HD2 on eBay like you said you were going to do....has the price come down on it or are you firm on 300?
aerajan said:
Yes, I'm rooted. And, yes I'm running a custom rom...
and love the freedom to do so. But to unroot and hide the fact that I was originally rooted for purposes of tecnical support or phone replacement purposes poses the same illegitimacy as the aformentioned example.
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It is not about hiding the fact it was rooted, it is about re-installing the stock ROM so Sprint repair can do a proper diagnosis. I'm sure step one of the troubleshooting manual says something like:
1. Is the phone software correct and up to date?
Which is why Sprint doesn't care that you are S-OFF, and why they have to install the latest version of the ROM if not already installed.
KJ